I've been following the discussion on the DNA testing with much 
interest. My brother did the 9 marker test, but did not post his 
results on Gary Felix's page.  I did mention it to him, but either he's 
not interested or it just slipped his mind.  I have a copy of the 
results and would be interested in posting the results on this site if 
Joseph decides to collect that data.  I haven't done much research on 
my own regarding this subject, and I am happy to see that we have 
several people in this group with so much knowledge to share.

Maria

p.s. My brother's haplogroup is R1b. Our surname is Sanchez and 3 of 
our grandparents were from the Los Altos de Jalisco area. The 4th 
grandparent was from Tizapan Jalisco (near Lake Chapala).

I wonder if anyone in the group knows the meaning of two words used by my parents to chide us when we were children.  My mother, a Native American-Mexican from New Mexico used to call me "surumata".  My father, who was from Jerez, Zacatecas, used to call me

Hello John,

Try the following instructions: 

"Click Start, Settings, Control Panel, Regional and
Language Options. Click the Language(s) tab. In Win
XP, click Details, then Add. Choose an Input language
(English United States) and a Keyboard Layout
(International English). Use Apply to finish the
process; the Windows installation CD may be needed."

Read the instructions on how to switch or select keyboard layouts.  
You can select also which one you prefer as the default layout.

Let us know if you need any other help!

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I don't know what version of Windows other people are using.  I am 
using Windows XP Home Edition and when I press the Alt+? I get 
nothing, just a pleasent little sound. I tried both Alt keys.
> I am sticking with Alt+168, it hasn't failed me yet!  As far as the 
exclamation symbol is concerned, I just do it the old fashion way: 
Shift +1. 
> 
> 
> John Gonzalez  
> 1gnzlz@v

Esperanza,

Regarding the question addressed to me, my haplotype is indeed listed 
at Gary Felix's web page among the Villarreal surname list.  I have 
several genetic matches or near matches, including your cousin 
Homero, all of whom have been newly rediscovered distant cousins to 
me.  

Our DNA shows the very high likelihood of sharing a common ancestor 
but at 6 generations back so far on my paternal lineage I still 
haven't found where our genealogical branches join, which means that 
it is a little further back into the previous century.  I'm still 
following the paper trail!  One very exciting discovery is that as we 
look deeper into our Nuevo León roots we're finding that they lead 
back to Zacatecas.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, latina1955@a... wrote:
>   
> Hi Prima,
> I am curious about your brother's DNA - what was he able to learn.  
In lieu of our possible connection, I would be extremely 
curious....If you look at Gary Felix's chart, I am related to Homero

Emilie,

Those two words are definitely not found in the dictinary of the "Real 
Academia Española".  

I'm familiar with one similar word "zurumbato" or "zurumbata" in its 
feminine gender.  I ignore its true meaning or origin but in the 
context that I remember hearing that adjetive it was always applied to 
someone with a poor head, like stunned or stupid, in the sense of a 
temporary mental numbness.  For example, "andaba bien zurumbato".

This link below shows another example.  Just click and scroll down to 
example 16:

http://www.aaanet.org/sla/jla/wea_13_2_haney_clips.htm

The other word, "tarayata" I really don't remember.

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
> I wonder if anyone in the group knows the meaning of two words used 
by my parents to chide us when we were children.  My mother, a Native 
American-Mexican from New Mexico used to call me "surumata".  My 
father, who was from Jerez, Zacatecas, used to call me "tarayata

Joseph,

I have done the DNA testing for the lines of my four grandparents. I think it would be 
interesting to have everyone share this information with the rancho group if they feel wish to 
do so. As you know, Gary Felix has a nice review of Y-DNA results on Mexican-American 
males, who are participating in his project via Family Tree DNA, http://members.tripod.com/
~GaryFelix/index63.htm.

Ed