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Names 's' and 'z'/HOHOHO
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I know my last name is Fuentes, but so many people always put a Z on the end
instead of the S.
~~glo~~
From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [ranchos] Names 's' and 'z'/HOHOHO
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:15:42 -0800
Hi Joseph:
Re: González.
The very first González in my line was, Alonso González de Hermosillo, who
was born about 1467 in Heromosilla, Burgos, Spain. The González spelling
was kept all the way down to the 9th generation, where it shows up spelled:
"Gonzáles" At the same time the "de Hermosillo" part was dropped. The
"González" spelling shows up again in the next (10th) generation and it
remained that way in the family to the present day.
I remember reading that in Spain, the names were spelled with the "ez",
and in Portugal with the "es". I believe that most errors were made by the
person writing the church records and interpreting the names.
1gnzlz@
Names 's' and 'z'/HOHOHO
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Joseph,
I was once told that names ending in "ez" or uez were Jewish
[Sephardic]. However, s and z, and s and c and v an b, etc. are interchangeable in Spanish, according to how they were taught. If your DNA shows you are of Levite descent, that puts you high up in
Jewish hierarchy. I would ask Mr. Greenspan of the Family Tree DNA about Jews and Ashkenazi and Sephardic, in Mexico. He is the one who told me about the Levites etc. in Jewish heierarchy. Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ----
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Odd names WAS
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No, Alberto, our ancestor's names were not unusual in their time and place,
but a name like Gorgonia [Garcia], my father's mother, sounds so awful to us now, especially those of us raised here in the US. Refugio sounds ugly also, but Gorgonia! Heavens, wasn't she the lady in mythology that had snakes for hair? and anyone unfortunate enough to catch a glimpse of her would turn to stone? No wonder I can't find any record of her birth. Emilie Garcia'
Port Orchard, WA ---
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Saltrillo
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Hi, Marge, No, the Salitrillo they were from is in the jurisdiction of Tepetongo, near Jerez. My nephew is a cook in the Picasso restaurant in the Bellagio Hotel in Vegas and he says two guys cooking there also are from Jerez and that they know some Olagues and also know where that Salitrillo is nearby. Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA ---
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Behind the Name
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as a Joseph I got where you're coming from. but as Steven pointed out a |
Ashkenazi Levite and Joseph Puentes
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--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"wrote: > > Joseph, > > A 3 step mutation near match with someone from a different > geographical region and with a different surname is quite a loooong > distance. As we say in Spanish: "Una golondrina no hace verano." > > This is most likely a case of haplotype convergence and not indicative > of a real genetic affinity. Joseph, Given the multi-cultural basis (Spanish, African, and Native-American Indian) of the Mexican people and the super multi-cultural basis (Cro-Magnon, Phoenician, Greek, Celtic, Basque, Roman, Visigoth, Jewish, North African Berber, Arab, etc.) of the Iberian peninsula people, you can probably call yourself anything you wish and probably be correct. Furthermore, you can see that the "sangre limpia" of the "Spaniards" was cr-p. Scientifically and with respect to your Y-DNA, however, I agree with Victor. Your Y-DNA is Celtic, for lack of a better definition. Stay tuned. The Y-DNA
What's in a name
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Steve,
I must say that prior to doing family research I had no real love and appreciation for the old but beautiful traditional spanish names. Now that I have immersed myself in family research I have grown to love all of these old names.
In my family we have had,
Restituto, Esperanza, Lauro, Prudencio, Deciderio, Hilario, Gregorio, Concepcion, Vidala, Refugio, Francisca, Pascual, Rebeca, Tiburcia, Josefa, Eulogia, Rafaela, Gertrudis, Atanacia, Crisanta, Emigdio, Micaela, Calixto, Hipolito etc. Aren't they just beautiful, so poetic and lyrical. I am still glad I have the name that I have because living in the USA as an immigrant and with a name that is easy to pronounce is hard enough. I put myself in my dad's place and can understand why he needed to change his name to one that was more mainstream, from Restituto to Jose.
So yes Steve your name is very
ordinary for a gringo but if you want a change you can call yourself Estevan or Esteban, you choose the spelling.
ordinary for a gringo but if you want a change you can call yourself Estevan or Esteban, you choose the spelling.
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Speaking of license plates and this is off the subject of geneology. Our van's license plate is ''MI CAMA''. Living in California we get the strangest looks from those who appear to speak spanish be it latinos or non-latinos. We get stopped by people wanting to know if we live in the van or why it is called ''MI CAMA''
When my husband injured his back several years ago and after multiple back surgeries, riding in a car for long periods was difficult for him to do sitting upright so we purchased a van so he could lie down during road trips lasting longer than half an hour or so.
And now I must sign off for the evening to ''MI CAMA'' but not the one outdoors.
Alicia
"v.h.villarreal"
"v.h.villarreal"
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ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
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> You mentioned custom plates;
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> My father's name was Nemesio, how common is that? not very! and my maternal granfather's name was Priciliano. I am John Gonzalez, or if you prefer, Juan Gonzalez. My