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Nochistlan, Leal, Aguascalientes: Books/and Misc.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, makas@n... wrote:
>Joseph - This message was posted Aug.15,2004. I am interested in 
the book "Retonos de Espania in la Nueva Galicia" written by Matiano 
Gonzales-Leal. Can you, or anyone , give me information as to where 
I can see, or purchase it? As I mentioned, I live in Yorba Linda, 
Orange Co., So. Cal...........................H.R.......... 
> 
> Author 	  Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías, José Luis.
> Title 	Genealogía de Nochistlán antiguo reino de la Nueva 
Galicia en el 
> siglo XVII según sus archivos parroquiales / José Luis Vázquez y 
> Rodríguez de Frías.
> Edition 	1. ed.
> Publisher 	Ciudad Juárez, Mexico : Editorial El Labrador, [2001]
> Description 	xx, 475 p. : ill. ; 29 cm.
> Note 	Includes index.
> Language 	Spanish
> Subject 	 Vasquez family.
> 	 Rodriguez family.
> 	 Mexico -- Genealogy.
> Format 	Book
> Library 	  UC Berkeley   All
> ==========================================
> Author 	  González-Leal, Mariano.
> Title 	Retoños de

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Hi!
 
I'd like to know more about Antonio and Catalina Carlos de Godoy, since I descend from them both.  I would like to know more about the origins of the Carlos de Godoy family, since it is a common name in the area.
 
I'm off to look at Susana's information-- welcome to the group, Susana.  I'm searching the Jerez/Tepetongo/Huejucar/Colotlan/Totatiche areas.  I'm interested to see what you have.
 
Rosalinda
Diamond Bar, CA


-----Original Message-----
From: Arturo Ramos
Sent: Dec 12, 2005 5:48 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: introduction-new member of los ranchos

Susana:

I have some information at home that may shed more light on this... I
have a lot of stary pieces of information that I think your
comprehensive genealogical information will put together.  One is
that Antonio Carlos de Godoy's wife, Catalina Cid Caldera was the
grand-niece of Miguel de Caldera, of fame, pacificador de los
Chichimecas y Justicia Mayor de los Valles de Jerez y Tlaltenango...
her

Caldera connection

Arturo, now you have my attention.  I've been trying to connect my 
Caldera ancestors in El Durazno, Jerez Zacatecas. I have 3 Caldera 
Grandmothers in my lineage.  Are you Caldera connected also?
Linda in Everett





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Susana:

I have some information at home that may shed more light on this... I 
have a lot of stary pieces of information that I think your 
comprehensive genealogical information will put together.  One is 
that Antonio Carlos de Godoy's wife, Catalina Cid Caldera was the 
grand-niece of Miguel de Caldera, of fame, pacificador de los 
Chichimecas y Justicia Mayor de los Valles de Jerez y Tlaltenango... 
her father, Pedro Cid Caldera was the son of Hernan Gonzalez and 
Miguel Caldera's half-sister, Maria Cid Caldera.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
>
> Arturo:
> 
> I'm at the same point you are. I have 2 more brothers for Antonio 
Carlos de Godoy and Catalina Carlos de Godoy (Sebastian and Juan). I 
don't know their father's name. I know the mother was Maria Rosales, 
and the grandmother was Agustina Rosales. A Historian from Zacatecas 
told me that the father's name was Juan Carlos de Godoy, but he 
didn't give the sources for this

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Ed,
 
Questions about the Archivo General de la
Nacion:
 
The Archivo that I visited is in Mexico City. It is
located in an old Prison (Lecumberri). It is open just in the mornings. It
is open partially to the public. Before you can see the records, you need
approval. Normally you need only a letter, better if it is from an institution..
Also you need to bring an ID with you. They have different areas. The area of
Genealogy, has many of the film that the LDS church has. They have an index just
like in the library.
In another area, they have microfilms of historical
documents, like maps, census, etc. In another area, they have the actual
documents. This area is closed to the public, or very restricted. One of the
hardest things is to get in is photocopies of the microfilms. The
staff is very helpful, specially if you describe your situacion. I would call in
advance, to make sure that the place is going to be open (They take many
vacations)
 
Many times the website from

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Maria de la Luz Montejano Hilton has published a very good index of 
all the 17th and 18th century films that includes a very good 
synopsis of each entry so you don't even have to go see the film once 
you find a name in order to get the genealogy information from it.


Montejano Hilton, Mariìa de la Luz. 
Sagrada mitra de Guadalajara, antiguo obispado de la Nueva Galicia : 
expedientes de la serie de matrimonios extractos siglos XVII-XVIII / 
Mariìa de la Luz Montejano Hilton. 
 Meìxico, D.F. : M. Montejano Hilton, 1999. 
 xxi, 803 p. ; 28 cm. 


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
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> Edward Serros wrote:
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> >--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I also travel to Mexico nearly every year to visit family, many 
times for an extended time. 
> >>    
> >>
> >During these periods I try to allocate time for geneological 
research. In a few of these 
> >trips, I have researched historical data at the

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Edward Serros wrote:

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  wrote:
  
I also travel to Mexico nearly every year to visit family, many times for an extended time. 
    
During these periods I try to allocate time for geneological research. In a few of these 
trips, I have researched historical data at the "Archivo General de la Nacion", and "Instituto 
Nacional de Antropologia e Historia" in Mexico City.... Church Dispensations from 
Guadalajara (Sagrada Mitra- Arzobispado de Nueva Galicia). I will be submitting some of 
these lines shortly.


Susana,

I am interested in your comments on the "Archivo General de la Nacion" since it appears to 
have much information not available in the Mormon repository. A copy of the Archivo is 
available locally at the University of California San DIego, not too far from my La Jolla 
home. (I hope it is there, as advertised).

My questions for you re: Archivo. How easy is it to use? Is it indexed in any

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Arturo:
 
I'm at the same point you are. I have 2 more
brothers for Antonio Carlos de Godoy and Catalina Carlos de Godoy (Sebastian and
Juan). I don't know their father's name. I know the mother was Maria
Rosales, and the grandmother was Agustina Rosales. A Historian from
Zacatecas told me that the father's name was Juan Carlos de Godoy, but he
didn't give the sources for this information.  Look at my file in
Ranchos2, in the same file you can see the sources for the information that I
have.
 
Shortly I will be submitting the file for the De la
Torre line.  Thanks for the link. I'm going to check your info
 
Regards
Susana Leniski
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:01
AM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: introduction-new
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Susana:

I have a couple of lineages that go back to
the Carlos de Godoy
family in Jerez.  I have actually not been able
to get further back
th

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--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  wrote:
> I also travel to Mexico nearly every year to visit family, many times for an extended time. 
During these periods I try to allocate time for geneological research. In a few of these 
trips, I have researched historical data at the "Archivo General de la Nacion", and "Instituto 
Nacional de Antropologia e Historia" in Mexico City.... Church Dispensations from 
Guadalajara (Sagrada Mitra- Arzobispado de Nueva Galicia). I will be submitting some of 
these lines shortly.


Susana,

I am interested in your comments on the "Archivo General de la Nacion" since it appears to 
have much information not available in the Mormon repository. A copy of the Archivo is 
available locally at the University of California San DIego, not too far from my La Jolla 
home. (I hope it is there, as advertised).

My questions for you re: Archivo. How easy is it to use? Is it indexed in any way? Did you 
find much information regarding