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1550: Suave!!!

John,
 
My roots also seem to lead to Panuco, since that is where the original
Olagues were from before they came to Jerez and Tepetongo.  I too have met
a roadblock and dead end with my father's maternal side. 
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ----
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Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 5:59
AM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] 1550:
Suave!!!

Hi Emilie:
 
It was my mother who was born in Zacatecas.  I
remember her talking about being born in "Minillas de Jerez" in 1903. 
She found out that there were no records for that period when she tried to
establish her legal status in the U.S.  (legal resident) . 
 I believe she had an affidavit from Jerez,  stating that there were
no records of her birth in 1903 because they had been destroyed by
fire.
 
She died in Lodi, California,  about 25 years
ago.  I have tried to find some of her personal papers, like birth

1550: Suave!!!

There also appears to be films for the civil registry for that year.

Registros civiles del municipio de Ciudad Garcia 1861-1920  
Authors  Ciudad Garcia (Zacatecas). Registro Civil (Main Author) 

Nacimientos 1903-1904  FHL INTL Film 1081921  

Registros parroquiales, 1648-1961 
Authors Iglesia Catolica. Inmaculada (Jerez, Zacatecas)

Bautismos 1899-1903  FHL INTL Film 439867  
Bautismos 1903-1907  FHL INTL Film 439868  




--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte  
wrote:
>
> John:
> I've seen Jerez baptism records from the late 1800s to
> the early 1900s.  I requested these records
> (microfiche) a couple of years ago from our local LSD
> library.  So they do exist.
> 
> Alberto Duarte Prieto
> Santa Maria, California
> 
> --- John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Emilie:
> > 
> > It was my mother who was born in Zacatecas.  I
> > remember her talking about being born in "Minillas
> > de Jerez" in 1903.  She found out that there were no
> > records for

1550: Suave!!!

John, approximately 12 years ago I met a gentleman
from the Somos Primos genealogical group at the
Westwood Latter Day Saints library.  I don't remember
his name but he was a distant relative of my wife
Rebeca Gutierrez Gonzalez; although she did not
remember him.  He told me he also was from the same
Gonzales-Casillas family branch from Los Altos, like
my wife.  

He helped me to interpret a 1797 Jerez marriage
document written in Spanish.  Anyway, this gentleman
had genealogical charts of over 2200 past relatives
that started in Los Altos and went all the way back to
to the year 1200 in Spain. 

If you are able contact him, I'm sure he would be more
that happy to share his findings with you.  Also, the
gentlemen looked like an Anglo (typical of many of
those from Los Altos, fair, tall, blue eyes); his
English and Spanish were excellent and he seemed very
well educated, and friendly.  He told me that he lived
in San Fernando Valley and was a software programmer. 

If you contact the

1550: Suave!!!

John:
I've seen Jerez baptism records from the late 1800s to
the early 1900s.  I requested these records
(microfiche) a couple of years ago from our local LSD
library.  So they do exist.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...> wrote:

> Hi Emilie:
> 
> It was my mother who was born in Zacatecas.  I
> remember her talking about being born in "Minillas
> de Jerez" in 1903.  She found out that there were no
> records for that period when she tried to establish
> her legal status in the U.S.  (legal resident) .   I
> believe she had an affidavit from Jerez,  stating
> that there were no records of her birth in 1903
> because they had been destroyed by fire.
> 
> She died in Lodi, California,  about 25 years ago. 
> I have tried to find some of her personal papers,
> like birth certificate, marriage certificate,
> passport, Green Card, without success.  I asked my
> brothers and sisters, but nobody seems to know what
> happened to all of her papers. 
>

Digest Number 684

Linda,

What is it that you want to know about the chocolateria?  I have 
family in Guadalajara that I could ask.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Linda R Romero  wrote:
>
> Is anyone on this list familiar enough with Guadalajara to have  
> information on this chocolateria?
> 
> La Sultana Gran Chocolateria, Molino y Tostador De
> Cafe.  It was located Av. Alvaro Obregon 295 in Guadalajara.  
Aurelio
> Reyes, Villasenor is also on the letterhead.  It was established 
in  
> 1900.  My parents were there in 1941. I believe it was owned by  
> members of the de la Torre family.
> 
> Adolfo de la Torre owned several ranches around Guadalajara and  
> Tepatitlan de Morelos.  His sister, Sophia de la Torre married  
> Castulo Romero, a tailor from Guadalajara.  They lived in 
Tepatitlan  
> de Morelos ca. 1890-1910.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Linda Romero
>





Digest Number 684

Is anyone on this list familiar enough with Guadalajara to have
information on this chocolateria?


La Sultana Gran Chocolateria, Molino y Tostador De
Cafe.  It was located Av. Alvaro Obregon 295 in Guadalajara.  Aurelio

Reyes, Villasenor is also on the letterhead. It was established in
1900. My parents were there in 1941. I believe it was owned by
members of the de la Torre family.


Adolfo de la Torre owned several ranches around Guadalajara and
Tepatitlan de Morelos. His sister, Sophia de la Torre married
Castulo Romero, a tailor from Guadalajara. They lived in Tepatitlan
de Morelos ca. 1890-1910.


Thank you.

Linda Romero




Very Off Topic: Advice Needed/Holyoke, Mass. Hopital



okay this person has asked for my help but I was wondering if anyone
here had any thoughts. I'm wondering if there is the equivilent to the
American Medical Assoc. in Mexico? If so do you think they would keep
records or the information of doctors that have retired? If any of you
like puzzles to unravel what other advise can you give to Ms. Kim in
her search for her father?



thanks,



joseph



ps: Note to Kim: have you sent an email to the Aguilar group at
Rootsweb?



http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.aguilar



Also what kind of other clubs and associations do doctors join? Try
them all. Also are there any "non-medical" type of clubs or
associations that the doctors from Holyoke/Springfield frequented? Also
have you contacted the Holyoke/Springfiled Family History Center AND
any Historical Societies or Medical Societies? How about the H/S
libraries? Call and speak to find out who the local historians are and
then call them and quiz them? Find out if there

1550: Suave!!!

Emilie:

It is probably the "Magic" of the Season...I can't think
of a better Christmas present.



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Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 4:55
AM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] 1550:
Suave!!!



John,

 

1467!!!!  Sixteen generations!!!  My God, you lead a charmed
life.  Only five months into your research, and you have found so
much.  How I (and the rest) envy you.  With your membership in this
group, maybe some of your luck will rub off on us.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA ---


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1550: Suave!!!

Hi Emilie:
 
It was my mother who was born in Zacatecas.  I
remember her talking about being born in "Minillas de Jerez" in 1903.  She
found out that there were no records for that period when she tried to establish
her legal status in the U.S.  (legal resident) .   I believe
she had an affidavit from Jerez,  stating that there were no records of her
birth in 1903 because they had been destroyed by fire.
 
She died in Lodi, California,  about 25 years
ago.  I have tried to find some of her personal papers, like birth
certificate, marriage certificate, passport, Green Card, without success. 
I asked my brothers and sisters, but nobody seems to know what happened to all
of her papers. 
 
Her parents were:  Preciliano Cerros and Apolonia
Gonzalez.  I remember hearing my grandfather talking about Pánuco but I
was too young to remember what he said about it.  The name stuck to
the back of my mind.
 
I am almost ready to start  researching her side of
the family.  I am