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Believe--- Re: [ranchos 2]

For your information and if you want to post some questions about DNA: 

This is the link to the Ybase Forum moderated by Gary Felix.
http://www.ybase.org/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=511

(You have to register and get a username to participate)



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> well it wouldn't be me to talk on DNA stuff, well not much anyway.
> 
> why not ask Gary Felix and then forward the group any answers you might 
> receive. or go to that discussion group moderated by Gary that Ed 
> mentioned.
> 
> I just don't know enough to comment.
> 
> joseph
> 
> beelieve wrote:
> 
> > Hello everyone in our group,
> >  I am always so very interested in everything I read from our group.
> > I am new at this whole thing but am s l o w l y learning. Much thanks 
> > to Joseph,Arturo and Deena for all your intro help. My DNA results( 
> > via National Geographic special/family tree) on the maternal side are;
> > HER Haplography BE
> > HER differences from

Trevino match, DNA and the Today show - Capirotada

Sorry, Emilie.  That was supposed to be a humorous remark about our
diverse genetic make up in Mexico in reference to all the different
haplogroups of Ed's grandparents.

I was just trying to find an equivalent expression to "heinz 57" in
the US, when someone has a mix of several ancestries.  

Capirotada is a typical sweet Mexican dessert made up of a lot of
ingredients, as Joseph remembers.

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
wrote:
>
> Victor,
> 
> I thought they called it the "Mestizaje"?  However, that word is not
in my Spanish dictionary.  I found "mescladura" and "mezcolanza". 
What say you, Jose Roman?  What do they call it in Mexico?
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA ---
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: v.h.villarrealmailto:raices_regias@y...> 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.commailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com> 
>   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:00 AM
>   Subject: [ranchos] Re: Trevino match, DNA and the Today show
>

Capirotada

Joseph and Emilie,
 
You are invited over for capirotada but you must wait until Lent. Capirotada is a lenten food as it was usually made with day old bread and tortillas and any leftover fruits, nuts and cheeses. It was meant to be penitential, who would have thunk that it would be a much coveted Mexican gourment dessert.
 
My husband is famous for his lenten capirotada, not as in Emeril TV famous but as in San Jose local family famous.
 
Alicia Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

Joseph Puentes wrote:



Emilie Garcia wrote:

> Victor,
>
> I thought they called it the "Mestizaje"? However, that word is not
> in my Spanish dictionary. I found "mescladura" and "mezcolanza".
> What say you, Jose Roman? What do they call it in Mexico?

Victor is in Mexico as much as Jose Roman. Donde vives Victor?

Victor can you put a little capirotada in a jar and send it to me?:

Joseph Puentes
PO Box 12123
Durham, NC 27709

I haven't had capirotada in over 20 years and i absolutely love it. My
mom didn't make it every

Haplogroup A ancestor---we are a match

Hi! 
 
Someone once explained to me that the mtDNA results were,
in some cases, the result of Spaniards marrying the "local girls" ........is
this what you are referring to, Arturo?    I do not understand
these numbers.....I am just trying to make heads or tails out of it......and to
justify the $$$$ I spent to get these numbers!  :-)  
Seriously, I don't mind spending the money if it will give
me some clues as to my ancestors, the migration pattern they followed,
etc.  I have only researched about three or four generations on my Dad's
maternal line and three or four on my Mom's maternal and paternal lines so I
have a long way to go.  I have been focusing on my Dad's paternal Trevino
lineage and go "way back" to about the 1400s in Spain. 
 
I really enjoy reading the messages everyone is sending
regarding Y-DNA and mtDNA because I am slowing learning a little here and
there.  What I really like is finding out that I have matches to a few in
this group, Linda, Victor

Believe--- Re: [ranchos 2]

well it wouldn't be me to talk on DNA stuff, well not much anyway.



why not ask Gary Felix and then forward the group any answers you might
receive. or go to that discussion group moderated by Gary that Ed
mentioned.



I just don't know enough to comment.



joseph



beelieve wrote:

Hello everyone in our group,
 I am always so very interested in
everything I read from our group.
I am new at this whole thing but am s
l o w l y
learning. Much thanks to Joseph,Arturo and Deena for
all your intro help. My DNA results( via National Geographic
special/family tree) on the maternal side are;
HER Haplography BE
HER differences from CRS
16172C
16183C
16189C
16217C
16391A
16519C
 I have not as of yet been contacted
from anyone with a similar match, but I am hopeful there is someone out
there. Also if ANYONE can help me make heads or tails of what of  these
numbers mean, I sure would like your help.I know my ancestors were from
Zacatecas, Mexico. When I first

Why Brothers DNA???---Romero DNA





Linda R Romero wrote:

First I'd like to thank everyone who has sent me information and  
suggestions for my research into my Romero/de la Torre surname.   
Though I've been to SLC several times, research is slow.  I am late  
in answering you because of our preparations for our winter trip to  
Arizona.  All the last minute obligations, home repairs, and doctor  
visits are taking longer than anticipated.  However, the latest DNA  
postings have stopped me in my tracks.

My mother is English/German/Scottish/Irish/etc. but my mtDNA seems to  
track pretty close with my Dad, who was born in Jalisco.

so you did your Dad's mtDNA but not his YDNA???

if you did your dad's YDNA (not sure) then why would you do your
brother's YDNA? it would be the same as your dad, that is unless he
just wants to have it done for his own interest.



joseph


16428[A]
16256[T]
16270[T]
16399[G]
249[G]
263[G]	
73[G]
16362[C]

My brother has agreed to have his DNA tested for my research.  I have

Maternal Lineage in Tepetongo/Huejucar-Re: [ranchos]





Emilie Garcia wrote:

Hello, Elvira?
 
(I can't tell who is writing what in the messages below). 
However, one comment peaked my interest:  "maternal
lines in (or back to) Zacatecas, especially  Tepetongo to test for
mtDNA.  I don't think anyone has started a Zacatecas  mtDNA project
yet...::Grin::"  
I must confess that all
this talk about DNA and Haplogroups and "numbers" is way over my head. 
However, I am very interested in your particular results, since you
state that you are looking for more people with maternal lineage in the
area of Tepetongo, Zacatecas.

I've yet to ask my cousin to do a Mt-DNA test to
find the exact results of my Dad's mom's side of the family that goes
directly to the Salitral Ranchos of the Tepetongo Cabezera, but I do
have my Mt-DNA tests in the folder that take me back to Huejucar which
is not far. But those results show that an African Eve (L1-a) entered
into my lineage at some point.



joseph

Capirotada- Re: Trevino match, DNA and the Today show





Emilie Garcia wrote:

Victor,
 
I thought they called it the "Mestizaje"?  However, that word is
not in my Spanish dictionary.  I found "mescladura" and "mezcolanza". 
What say you, Jose Roman?  What do they call it in Mexico?

Victor is in Mexico as much as Jose Roman. Donde vives Victor?



Victor can you put a little capirotada in a jar and send it to me?:



Joseph Puentes

PO Box 12123

Durham, NC 27709



I haven't had capirotada in over 20 years and i absolutely love it. My
mom didn't make it every year but probably on average of every other
year. I used to over indulge. But she did make on the order of 30 dozen
tamales every year with us kids sitting around the table spreading the
masa (thankfully only when she could capture us). My sisters used to be
made to do the whole procedure when they were younger.



joseph



ps: do they have Jalisco Capirotada, Zacatecas Capirotada and
Aguascalientes Capirotada? Boy I'd love to try all three versions even
if they

Trevino match, DNA and the Today show

Emily,

I think they call it "Mexican"; I am joking and not joking. Seriously, there are no pure 
Spaniards down there anymore unless they emigrated in the last generation. I am told that 
there are some pure Native American Indians though.

Ed
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  wrote:
>
> Victor,
> 
> I thought they called it the "Mestizaje"?  However, that word is not in my Spanish 
dictionary.  I found "mescladura" and "mezcolanza".  What say you, Jose Roman?  What do 
they call it in Mexico?
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA ---
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: v.h.villarrealmailto:raices_regias@y...> 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.commailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com> 
>   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:00 AM
>   Subject: [ranchos] Re: Trevino match, DNA and the Today show
> 
> 
>   --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.commailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com>, "Edward 
Serros" mailto:ed@s>...> wrote:
>   > 
>   > For starters I have 4

Romero DNA

Linda,

What mtDNA haplogroup did they assign you? Who provided the specimen?

Your brother has your father's Y-DNA and he has your mtDNA and your mother's mtDNA, 
assuming you have the same parents. The latter assumption sometimes is a huge 
assumption and leads to very interesting discussions.

Ed

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Linda R Romero  wrote:
>
> First I'd like to thank everyone who has sent me information and  
> suggestions for my research into my Romero/de la Torre surname.   
> Though I've been to SLC several times, research is slow.  I am late  
> in answering you because of our preparations for our winter trip to  
> Arizona.  All the last minute obligations, home repairs, and doctor  
> visits are taking longer than anticipated.  However, the latest DNA  
> postings have stopped me in my tracks.
> 
> My mother is English/German/Scottish/Irish/etc. but my mtDNA seems to  
> track pretty close with my Dad, who was born in Jalisco.
> 
> 16428[A]
> 16256[T