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Thanks, I will dp that when I get home tonight.

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From: "Emilie Garcia"
Subj: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Old Personal Phone Books/John'sBreakThroughDance

Just a quick message about the most valuable resource in my genealogy so
far. Somehow someway I managed to copy a couple of pages out of an old
phonebook that my mom used to use. The copying took place way before I

Nicolás de Anda Sánchez' new book is now available at Borderlands Book Store. Enter the # 890 in the search box and it will take you right to it.

http://www.borderlandsbooks.com/

Teocaltiche is located approximately between Guadalajara and Zacatecas. This is a historical narrative but contains a profusion of genealogical information.The book is divided into five parts: Part one is " Epoca Prehispanica,", Part Two is "Siglo XVI," Part Three is " Siglo XVII, Part Four is "Siglo XVIII," and Part Five is " El Siglo XIX, DE 1800 Al 1823."

Hello Leticia, I'm starting my search with nothing but family names. I was only 12 when I met my great-uncle Adolfo Onate in Guadalajara and have no idea what part of town I was in, and since my mother never kept up any correspondence, I have nothing but family names to go on. Sorry, but these are the brick walls I've been battling for about two months now. Thanks for keeping me in mind; I keep reading all the messages posted and ordering films from the FHC in hopes of finding some kind of lead. Alice B. Blake

Hi Esther, Agustina and Luis Onate never left Mexico. Adolfo Onate was here for a while, but returned to Mexico, where I met him in Guadalajara, Jalisco 40 years ago. I'm new to this and have never requested SS records. Don't you need to show some sort of direct/legal connection for that? I know nothing about him or anyone else, except for names. Thanks for the suggestions. Possible Prima, Alice

Esther, Sorry, but the only data I have is for Agustina Santelice's parents' marriage in Panuco 1882. Unfortunately, I don't have any info on Agustina's marriage to Luis Onate. That's the problem, Esther. I have no dates or firm locations of births, etc. I did find Luis Onate's brother Adolfo's WWI Draft registration that states his birth as Sept 27, 1896 in Villa Garcia, Zac. I will order Vault Film 1089262 that contains nacimientos of that date. I know their father's name: Rosalio Onate, but not my ggrandmother's name at all. Hopefully, I'll find Luis and Adolfo's parents and grandparents' names on the film. Wish me luck and thanks so much for your interest. I need all the help I can get. Alice B. Blake

Thank you Joseph and Arturo,

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Many many thanks go out to two very generous individuals in the group
for volunteering to help me with a couple of important projects:

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Hello all
I have located a great geagraphical resource that has allowed me to locate the brithplaces of both grandparents in Aguascalientes. They were both small places, and I never thought I could find them until I located this resource. Just click on the link and go to the site. THere you can search by country, and once in the country listing you can search by place name. I clicked on Ojo de Agua de Rosales and it located it for me on a satellite map and listed the GPS locations and elevations, etc. I also clicked on La Hacienda in Aguascalientes and got similar results. It's a great resource. The link is http://www.indexmundi.com/.

hi,

first my apologies for posting this to the "research" list but I did it
since that is the group with the highest number of subscribed members.

I'm overwhelmed. I thought that moving from Yahoo to the new site would

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John,

You say "there are no films from the years I am looking for" but that you were going to get them from the LDS Library. I am curious---where have you been viewing films? I thought only the LDS Family History Center libraries and some libraries in El Paso, TX had microfilms from Mexico.

To John G. and John R.,

Thanks, guys, for the information on the various map sites. I found the Maps of Mexico link on the Nuestros Ranchos site works best for me. So does the MSN Maps (the old one with just maps, not the new one with the satellite photos).

I’m searching my father’s line to Zacatecas, the name of my great grandmother was Ines de la Rosa Sandoval, all I know is that she was born in Fresnillo, Zacatecas around 1887-1889 (on the birth record of my grandfather said she was 36 by the time he was born -1925-)

Emilie Garcia:

En la Geografía e Historia de Aguascalientes aparece “Morcinique”, que
probablemente es una deformación de una palabra Nahuatl. En antiguos
escritos del S. XVII, aparece como vocablo con diversas deformaciones

My recent research into my husband's ancestry has taken me farther afield from Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco where I found his grandfather, great-grandfather ---- back to his gggg-grandfather. Now I am in unfamiliar territory.

Alice,

I will call you cousin for I have Onate ancestry also. My Onate heritage dates back to the colonization of Zacatecas and Oaxaca of New Mexico.

You found the marriage of Agustina Santelices and Luis Onate. That is a good begining. I am willing to help you research the Onates. So far I have been lucky in my own research. I am kind of curious if you go back to Juan or Cristobal Onate as I do. I will need the date of Agustina and Luis' marriage and the place and the church. I also need to know where and when the other children of the marriage were born. Did you read the documents in their entriety?

John, I know exactly how you feel. I've recently started my genealogy research and hit nothing but brick walls! For whatever reason--political or family squabbles, it appears my mother: an intelligent, professional woman from a once prominent family (Onate), was misinformed as to where she was born! I thought I had hit the jackpot when I received the FHC microfilm for Villa Garcia, Zac. for the years before and after her birth, and she's not there! Neither are her two brothers. I've checked the town's 1930's census--no Onate's whatsoever. This family, like many others, lost their fortunes and family records, if any, in the revolution. Now I've ordered an Aguascalientes El Sagrario (the church where my ggrandfather is entombed) microfilm that covers 300 years. I wonder how long it's going to take to get through that one, working only a couple hours a week (the evening operating hours of my FHC)? I haven't contributed much to the site, not for lack of effort, but lack o

Leticia, Thank you. With your ears up and my antennas, I'm optimistic! ABB

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From: Leticia Leon
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Los Oñate de Alice

I'm confused by all this that has been posted with reference to not knowing
or not having the time... I have found that all one needs to do is post a
message requesting help... and the flood gates open up, sending helpers

I wonder if anyone can help me with a place name in Aguascalientes.

I have a baptism record here for my husband's ggggg-grandfather, baptized in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes in 1748, but he was born in a place that looks like "Marinique". I don't find that place in the Diccionario Geografico, but when I Googled it, I came up with a "Marinique Resort" in Aguascalientes. However, when I entered the website, I couldn't find it listed. (It is a travel website).

As of 09/23/2006 the Nuestros Ranchos group has started a new policy.
The group is experiencing tremendous growth and that growth has forced
the policy change.

From now on to be a member of the group you must first send in a

Right now the group is hovering around 160 members. . .but I predict
(please group members make me a false prophet). . .I predict that on the
32nd of January 2007 there will be 35% fewer members in the group. .

Joseph, The film I searched was Villa Garcia Vault Intl Film 2053580 which includes nacimentos 1914-1917, and didn't find any Onates in those years. Yes, she had two brothers, but no Onates or Santelices (in case the mother's maiden name was used)showed on that film. We don't know her brother's names; upon my grandparents separation, the oldest son was taken to live with the Onates, and the other died a young man. There are also no Onates in the 1930 census for Villa Garcia, et al. Thanks for your suggestions. ABB