Going on Vacation
I'll be in CA from the 30 of July to Aug 11. . .you guys are going to be
all on your own.
I can be reached for comment at makas_nc@... while I'm away. joseph
I'll be in CA from the 30 of July to Aug 11. . .you guys are going to be
all on your own.
I can be reached for comment at makas_nc@... while I'm away. joseph
John Gonzalez wrote:
I believe that if a fee is required to participate in this group, it
will be the end of this group as we know it. Once you start charging,
the members will become more demanding in regards as to what materials
they can, and can not post on this site. Control will be lost...Think
about it.
If we put our heads together, I am sure we can come up with a
solution. I am 100% against ANY fees because of the reason mentioned
above.
Another member wrote me privately and said that the answer is that those
that want more controll to modify their own folders should ask me to
remove their work off of the Ranchos site and then they could upload it
to one of the many many free sites and then just link to it in the links
area of the group. This would relieve the files area of the pressure its
under and I could open it again.
joseph
ps: You're right John. We can come up with a free solution. . .but if
to many really really want more control then that
-----Original Message-----
From: John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...>
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:59:45 -0000
Subject: [ranchos] Fee
I believe that if a fee is required to participate in this group, it will be the end of this group as we know it. Once you start charging, the members will become more demanding in regards as to what materials they can, and can not post on this site. Control will be lost...Think about it.
I HEAR YOU BROTHER!!! If we put our heads together, I am sure we can come up with a solution. I am 100% against ANY fees because of the reason mentioned above.
AMEN TO THAT!!! Just my grain of salt... John Gonzalez Wildomar CA.
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httpConnie, do you know any of my family Prieto memebers out there in El Paso? We've been there forever! Alberto Duarte Prieto. Santa Maria, California --- Connie Dominguezwrote: > Actually, I've had quite a time w/ Paypal, too. They > wont' leave me > alone. I'd be glad to contribute $$, though. Is > there a way to put an > auto-email reminder to be sent out each month I > wonder? Just a thought. > > > Connie > > Connie Dominguez > 10537 Candlewood Dr. > El Paso, TX 79925 > (915) 799-6036 > cdominguez10@... > > -----Original Message----- > From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Margarita Vallazza > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:29 PM > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Member's Profiles > > I don't want anything to do with PayPal.,..I've had > SOOOOO much trouble > with spamming and potential thievery from them!!! > No, thanx!!!! Marge:) > On Jul 20, 2005, at 12:38 PM, latina1955@... >
I believe that if a fee is required to participate in this group, it will be the end of this group as we know it. Once you start charging, the members will become more demanding in regards as to what materials they can, and can not post on this site. Control will be lost...Think about it. If we put our heads together, I am sure we can come up with a solution. I am 100% against ANY fees because of the reason mentioned above. Just my grain of salt... John Gonzalez Wildomar CA.
I'd be okay to moving to yahoo Briefcase and having you do the updating providing you don't "ktb" anytime soon.:) Marge:)
On Jul 20, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
Hey Everybody,
this group is free. . .no charge. . .other than the sweat of your brows as you strive to do your research.
If and when 51% of the membership votes to go with the pay format of this group things will remain free. Having said that I'm not even going to bring it up for a vote unless I can get a few more people to jump in saying they would like to see the change. Having said that (2) doesn't mean that we can't revisit this topic from time to time if the ***closed files become an unbearable situation.. Freedom is a funny thing. . .remember freeedom doesn't mean it's free.
***As I said before they are not closed just closed to modification by the general population. Any additions, subtractions, corrections, or complete removal of all files from anyones folders can be accomplished by communicating
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I don't want anything to do with PayPal.,..I've had SOOOOO much trouble with spamming and potential thievery from them!!! No, thanx!!!! Marge:)
On Jul 20, 2005, at 12:38 PM, latina1955@... wrote:
Would it be difficult to set up the new site with a Pay Pal account? I don't mind contributing, and would be willing to give more than $2.00, but I tend to be lazy about putting bills in the mail, especially without a paper reminder that comes with a self-addressed envelope.
I value this site, the sharing, and the learning.
Esperanza (Chicago, Illinois area)
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Descendants of Jose-Maria
Gonzales
Generation No.
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1.
JOSE-MARIA
GONZALES (son of JOSE-MANUEL-VICENTE GONZALES & MARIA DE JESUS
JIMENEZ) was born in Jalostotitlan,
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OSE-MARIA GONZALES and MARIA-MERCED GUTIERREZ are:
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Baptism: March 15,
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2-- MARIA-ZEFERINA GONZALES, b. August 26, 1841, (Santana) Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Mexico.
3-- MARIA-EUTEMIA GONZALES, b. December 22, 1843
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face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> Would it be difficult to set up the new site with a Pay Pal account? I don't mind contributing, and would be willing to give more than $2.00, but I tend to be lazy about putting bills in the mail, especially without a paper reminder that comes with a self-addressed envelope. I value this site, the sharing, and the learning. Esperanza (Chicago, Illinois area)
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I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin board system that we can use similar to this list. this sounds good to me if the membership would like to go in this We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of about $150 a year for hosting we currently have 93 members of which I'd say that 85 would be left or try to make that money back through advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and as long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably be able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are and |
aajay1073 wrote:
I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if
there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with
both of them...
Angie
No I wouldn't be in favor of another bulletin board. Its either this one
or another one. I would not be opposed to handing the reigns of this
group over to others. This group is not about me but us. As long as the
group stays intact it makes no difference to me if its at Yahoo or some
other site or if I'm the moderator or an active member.
I don't have the time or knowledge to know or learn how to seamlessly
make the transition. If there is enough feedback from the group we can
do a poll of the membership to see how many would be in favor of
pursuing such a plan.
joseph
The bulletin board would be in lieu of this one. If we wanted ad revenue at least, we would have to get a fair amount of traffic on the board and I don't think that the database alone would generate that. Plus most bulletin board software allows more flexibility as far as what sort of notifications you get (i.e. limited to certain topics) and to view messages on the same basis, to show only unread messages, etc. --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"wrote: > I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if > there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with > both of them... > > Angie > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" > wrote: > > I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree > > software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin > board > > system that we can use similar to this list. > > > > We would need to either get small donations to
I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with both of them... Angie --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"wrote: > I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree > software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin board > system that we can use similar to this list. > > We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of about > $150 a year for hosting or try to make that money back through > advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and as > long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably be > able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are and > how often people go on the site). > > My cost estimate is for a hosting package that would give us 3GB of > storage. People could upload files in addition to their GEDCOMs. > All of the family information would
I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin board system that we can use similar to this list. We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of about $150 a year for hosting or try to make that money back through advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and as long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably be able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are and how often people go on the site). My cost estimate is for a hosting package that would give us 3GB of storage. People could upload files in addition to their GEDCOMs. All of the family information would be searchable by name, place, etc. and could be searchable on a tree-specific basis or the entire database could be searched at once. Of course these functions would only be available for registered members. How many are there? --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com
----- Original Message -----From: arturoramos2Sent: 7/12/2005 8:49:46 AMSubject: [ranchos] Re: New member - Grano FamilyAngie:
We are most definitely related. Joseph Cayetano Grano's daughter
Rita Margarita married Pedro Gonzalez. I am their eighth generation
descendant via my father's paternal line. I will definitely take a
look at your file. I have Covarrubias and Jara interwoven throughout
my genealogy so I am sure there is a connection there as well.
Do you know how I would go about getting copies of the books you
mention? We can
----- Original Message -----From: Kitty CortezSent: 7/13/2005 4:00:02 PMSubject: [ranchos] Help in Jerez ZacatecasLinda,I couldn't help notice the name of Leonardo de la Torre Berumen from Jerez. Rich and I are researching Berumes (s instead of n) from Jeres, Zac.Bernardo BERUMES and Maria Marsela ORTISOne of the children Joseph Francisco Xavier BERUMES was born 18 Dec 1757 in Jeres, Zac.followed by two children Joseph Melchor BERUMES de Vera b. 7 Jan 1765 and Lorenzo de la Trinidad BERUMES b. 5 Aug 1760 both born in Tepetongo, Zac.Another son, our ancestor, Santiago BERUMES m. Maria Josefa SALAZAR, but we don't have birthdate or birthplace for
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20mb + 20mb + 30mb How much storage space are you using now with all of the Ranchos groups and briefcase combined? How many members are there? Is anybody storing anything more sophisticated than their GEDCOM data that they are then transmitting in various formats (Word, PDF, etc.) Check out my family website (I will send you the link in an email) and see if you think this might be a possible alternative, where people could upload their GEDCOM files (minus living individuals) and we can simply restrict access completely to members. In addition, we could use the bulletin board there in lieu of this group and people can sign up for |
-----Original Message-----
From: John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...>
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21
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The only information that I have is what I have read in some of the Jalos Web sites. You probably already have it, I know it isn't much, but I hope it will help: Padre Toribio had two brothers and a sister: Roman, Francisco, and Maria Francisco had daughter named Margarita Romo Enriquez. Padre Toribio has a niece, Doña Juanita Romo. She owns one of the stores that caters to the visitors to the shrine. John Gonzalez Wildomar, CA.
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Alicia:
I can't seem to figure out where the profiles section is. Can you be
a little more explicit as to how to go about changing this?
Joseph:
How much storage space
Good evening! Was someone researching the "Bergara" line in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas??? Peggy Delgado