Family Search

I was trying to use Family Search on a computer with Windows XP and IE 7. For all practical purposes it does not work.

I went to google, searched for Firefox, and downloaded the current version. This relatively quick, but depends on your internet connection.

I did the standard installation (essentially just follow the instructions: press the "run" button). Started Firefox, searched for Family Search, and everything worked without any problems.

When you install Firefox, you have the option of importing your IE favorites (or bookmarks), although I didn't do this.

I was up and running in less than 5 minutes. The website worked without any problems.

Bottom line: Family Search is not compatible with the older software.

George Fulton
Pleasanton

Question regarding first names

Dear NR primos,
Would it be common to have different children named "Jose Maria" + a different middle name?

I have been looking for "Jose Maria Gonzalez Ledesma" and I believe I have found him. His baptism is given in acta #3167 in the 1790 Baptisms in Calvillo:
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11107-161431-98?cc=141…

But the first name of this child is "Jose Maria Nicolas." The date fits and I haven't seen another Nicolas Gonzalez in the family tree and that is why I think this is THE ancestor I've been searching for. I have also considered the possibility that this child died and the parents had another on and simply named him "Jose Maria," and I'll investigate this at a later point in time.

Thanks for your input.

Arturo G

Solicito ayuda para evaluar informacion sobre mis posibles ancestros

Hola foro,

Solicito la ayuda de algun miembro del grupo para evaluar informacion que he encontrado sobre mis posibles ancestros (Linea directa Paternal). Tengo escasos 2 meses que comence a involucrarme en la busquedad de mis ancestros, la poca experiencia que tengo en este tema de la Genealogia me hace temer en posibles errores que he cometido a travez de mi busquedad. Tengo mas de 30 "snapshots" y los enlaces(links) a actas de bautismo y matrimonio (religioso y civil)de quienes pudieran ser mis ancestros. Ya tengo confirmado a mi Abuelo Paterno y su Papa'(mi bisabuelo), pero de ahi hacia atras... tengo dudas sobre algunas personas. Es por eso que solicito la ayuda de algun miembro con experiencia para evaluar la informacion que tengo y dejarme saber si estoy en el "camino correcto".

Si algun miembro tiene el tiempo y desea ayurdarme, pude contactarme directo a mi correo o dejarme saber el suyo, o la forma de contactarlo.

De antemano... Muchas Gracias,
Roberto Hdez

Marcos Carrillo

Hello everyone,

I have posted on this before but I seem to have hit a
wall. I'm looking for the parents of one of my ancestors,
Marcos Carrillo. His wife was Petra Bermudez and I have found
documents on about seven of their children. None give
information on grandparents. I believe he married between
1745-1750 in Jerez, Zac. Most marriage records for those
years in Jerez are missing on the familysearch website, so I
have not had any luck finding it, if it even exists.
When reading some records on their chldren I found that
they lived in a place called Ximulco which then belonged
to the Villa de Jerez. I believe it now belongs to
Huejuquilla el Alto, Jalisco. I have also searched the records
from the church there (San Diego) with no luck. If
anyone has any suggestions or could help I would greatly
apreciate it.

Gustavo Carrillo

What now?

What is going on now at the "new" Family Search site?

My Windows XP with IE8 was working fine, now it seems they have changed things. I no longer get the little hand that grabs and moves the page around smoothly, nor the little box on the bottom right corner where you could zoom. Instead there seem to be two double pointed crossed arrows that do nothing but make the page jump around erratically, and I can't go from one page to another without a lot of delay. Arrrgh!

Emilie
Port Orchard. WA

Response from Family Search re New Image Access

Below is the response I got from Family Search re my inability to browse the images with their new system.

I did everything they said, and I still cannot make the images stand still---they jump all around and when I enter a new page number it takes so long to change---also using the left/right arrows takes a long time to change the page.

They misunderstood me when I said that instead of the little hand that used to grab the image so we could move around in it smoothly has disappeared and in its place is a diamond shaped cursor composed of two double-pointed arrows, one horizontal and one vertical and in between the points of the arrows are four little boxes. They thought I was referring to the double-pointed arrow in the top menu that says Full Screen. This new cursor doesn't pull the image around like I used to be able to with the little hand.

It is also hard to click on the section of the church records I want. I kept trying to click on Entierros 1867-1896 but the bar on the bottom of the list kept going back to the beginning Bautismos. Even the list of records doesn't stand still.

I am in tears here,

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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September 14, 2011

Dear Emilie Garcia,

Thank you for contacting Family Search in regard to image access on our site.

We have replicated your search as well as we can without specifics and have determined that your problem is most likely related to the upgrade of our Image Viewer which was performed yesterday. During the upgrade there appeared to be some issues with viewing images. Today I was able to view images and move from image to image without a problem. There does seem to still be an issue with the full screen function that you mention as the double pointed arrows. This should be taken care of soon as the engineers continue to tweek the function. The box at the bottom of the page has also disappeared and a zoom function is available on the top left. When the image was fully zoomed, we were still able to move the image around although the little hand is not visible.

Please check back at the site today to see if the problems you experienced are now resolved.

We have also found that at times there are issues with IE7 and IE8 that affects viewing of the images. If you are still experiencing problems, you might want to try the following in IE8:

Copy this for the future it is different than the KD
1. In the IE7 or IE8 browser, select from the main menu (not the toolbar on the same line as the tabs), Tools -> Internet Options.
2. Under “Browsing History”, click on the “Delete” button.
3. Select only “Temporary Internet Files”, “Cookies”, “History” and “Form Data”. Unselect ALL other check boxes. Then click on the “Delete” button.
4. Click the “OK” button on the open dialog after the delete has finished.
5. Close the browser.
6. Reopen the browser and go to https://www.familysearch.org.
7. Once the page has come up, press to refresh the java script that the browser is running.
8. Close browser and refresh a second time.

Again, we thank you for contacting Family Search. If you continue to experience problems, please feel free to contact us. We appreciate your patronage of our site and wish you the best in your research.

Sincerely,
Family Search
support@familysearch.org

Romos -Lagos de Moreno and Aguascalientes. 1770's to early 1800's

After searching for my maternal grandmother (Crecencia Romo Rodriguez) for several years I finally found her. I had been working with wrong birth year and birth location. She died when my mother was a very small child. Now I would like to continue researching my Romo family surname.

Crecencia Romo was born 1885 in Aguascalientes, daughter of Luz Romo Olmos (b. abt 1850 in Aguascalientes) and Maria Del Refugio Rodríguez – siblings Higinio Romo Rodríguez and Maria Romo Rodríguez.
Parents of Luz Romo –
Ynocencio Romo de Alba and Gumencinda Olmos married July 10, 1839, Aguas.
Children: Maria Vicenta Del Refugio b. 1840, Antonia b. 1841, Maria Francisca b. 1842; José De La Cuz b. 1856;’ Macial b. 1860, Ramón Refugio b. 1863

Ramón Romo Camarena and Juana de Alba Married March 4, 1810, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco
Childlren: José Anacleto de la Trinidad b. 1810; José Andrés b. 1812, (both in Lagos)
Maria Bacilia b. 1814; José Hipólito b. 1816; Maria Leonida b. 1818 and Ynocencio b. 1819 all in Aguascalientes

Joaquín Romo de Vivar and Josefa Camarena from Lagos Moreno, Jalisco
Children: Ma. Eustacia b. 1775; Ma. Paula b. 1776; Marta Rosalia b. 1779; Petra b. 1784; Anna Maria de Santiago b. 1786; Ma. Guadalupe Alexandra b. 1788; Esmerexilda b. 1793; José Ramón abt. 1791; José Ignacio de Jesús b. 1795 Marzela b. ¿married 1800 to Jose Lázaro Guerra; and Ma. Dolores married Feb. 1795 to Thomas de Alva. – all in Lagos de Moreno

I would appreciate any help on this Romo line.
Aurora De Anda Romo

To Armando re San Felipe film

Armando,

I just received the message below from Feedback at Family Search. they told me the same thing you told me, that the matrimonios for 1618 are to be found in the Bautismos de Castas 1600-1672.

So, I learned a lot from you, that I need to check the dates in the Catalog. I wish though that Family Search had given me a link directly to the image I wanted, but they would not have the time to do that. It will just require me searching each and every image. Ay, ay, ay.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Dear Emilie Garcia,

Our sincere apologies for misunderstanding your question. As strange as it seems the record you are seeking is found by following this path:

www.familysearch.org
Mexico
Mexico, Guanajuato, Catholic Church Records, 1576-1984
San Felipe
San Felipe Apóstol
Bautismos de castas 1600-1672

The Bautismos de castas, 1600-1672 includes Matrimonios y Defunciones.

This is the link to the volume you need:
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20567-22378-83?cc=186…

If you should require any further assistance, we will be happy to help you.

Sincerely,
FamilySearch
support@familysearch.org

Definition and context of term in Civil Records San Miguel el Alto, Jalisco

Page 170 (of 176) in the Civil Birth Records for San Miguel el Alto, Jalisco, the following entry refers to "indio" but I cannot determine if it says "no indio" or "ni indio" . . . or why this is referenced in all of the civil records in this book/record:

Entry #581, 21 Dec 1884, birth of Maria Espectacion Avalos (parents Ramon Avalos & Jacinta Plasencia).

In another book (1883) from the same municipality, I found an entry that read "no indigena." Does anyone know the exact meaning of this term and why it was included in these records?

I know the literal translation (not indigenous), but is this what was intended? Did I read it incorrectly? Does anyone know why this was an important distinction to document during this time period?

I was hoping this line of my family was indeed indigenous, so I'm hoping I misread or misinterpreted.

Thanks for any help, Roxanne Ocampo

MAÑANA DA INICIO EL CURSO DE GENEALOGÍA

Compañeros de Nuestros Ranchos,

Les comento que mañana lunes 12 de septiembre damos inicio con el curso de
genealogía en linea, si hay alguien que desee inscribirse todavía está a
tiempo.

Les recuerdo que este curso es "basico".

Para mayor información escriban a su servidor Israel Valles a este mismo
correo electrónico.

Saludos.

Israel Valles
Durango, MX

Bautismos de Castas, Film 644362

Armando,

In all my years looking at films, I have never seen one like 644362. It has everything but the kitchen sink in there, and groups of records are completely out of order throughout.

The film has bautismos (and I saw many that said "espanola de la Villa") for both espanoles and others, and the "casamientos" appear all throughout. I found one page for 1618, but it was for Noviembre, never found the one for Junio. Maybe some day I will go through the film one image at a time (I only spot checked it every 10 pages or so), but right now my husband wants his tamale pie.

Thanks for your help,

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Diego de San Martin, Familias Michel Ordonez en Jalisco.

Estimados colegas de Nuestros Ranchos, Saludos y paso a lo siguiente. Solicito ayuda para encontrar datos sobre Diego de San Martin quien llego a Mexico en epoca de la conquista. EStuvo casado con Elvira Ordonez y tuvieron 2 hijos Juan Michel Ordonez y Cristobal de Ordonez. Es probable que Tuvo Encomienda en Tonala ya que vivio ahi algunos anos y fallecio alrrededor de 1536. Si algun companero tiene cualquier dato o conexcion en sus investigaciones yo le estaria eternamente agradecido por hacerme saber de ello. Alguien que investiga a los San Martin, Michel o Ordonez me podria ayudar? Atentamente su servidor, Jose Antonio Michel

Senovia Landa

My great grandmother Leonor Miranda Landa was seperated from her parents Dario Miranda and Senovia Landa when she was about 5 years old.
A couple of days ago I found their Civil Marriage Certificate in Arteaga Michoacan
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21902-29387-61?cc=191…

I found a Cenobia Landa from Michoacan living in Zacatecas in the 1930 census. Could this be my missing ancestor?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/9VSV-TBZ/p_580247033

Tomas de Villalpando's descendants

I have just posted a report with four generations of descendants of Tomas de Villalpando and Maria de Veles, of Leon, GTO. Their descendants lived in Aguascalientes and Asientos.

The file is located in the files area, under my name.

I do not know if Tomas and Maria went to Agauscalientes, but their son, Tomas, did. He married twice, and left many descendants there, and in Asientos. I have followed the Santiago y Escobar (aka Santiago de Escobar) family extensively, but not the others. I have only limited information on the descendants of the son Marcos.

This file should be considered a work in progress.

I have not yet found anything that connects this family to Juan de Villalpando of Leon, that we have been discussing in detail lately.

If anyone could add to this file, link it Juan de Villalpando, or make corrections, please let me know.

George Fulton
Pleasanton

Still Trouble with Family Search

Help!!
 
I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688, bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing occured.
 
Am I doing something wrong?
 
Thanks,
Alicia