Nuestros Ranchos Site

To all,
 
There were some new files added today to Family Search. Baja Calif, Colima, Queretaro and Nayarit.
 
Alicia

I've been trying to browse images for Jalisco churches, but I'm only getting a "blank" page with a FamilySearch.org heading/Index. Is the site under maintenance?

Thanks,
Roberto Hdez

I clicked on Films for Colotlan, Jalisco baptism records for 1859 and THREE consecutive times I was redirected to either the Family Search Pilot search or Joseph Puentes' member files! What's going on???

ESTE DIA 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE 2011 SIENDO LAS 13.00 HORAS

TESTIFICO QUE LAS ENTRADAS EN EL NUEVO PROGRAMA ESTAN LLENAS DE ERRORES
Y LOS DATOS AHUN CUANDO CORRECTOS SI UNA NO ESTA INFORMADA DE LA INFORMACION
CORRECTA DE LOS DATOS.......TOMARIA ESTOS DATOS COMO REALES Y NO LO SON.
NO TENGO OTRO CALIFICATIVO... SON UN DESASTRE
ESO SIN CONTAR LA DUPLICIDAD

EN ALGUNA FORMA COMO GRUPO PODEMOS SOLICITAR QUE SE REGRESE AL SISTEMA ANTERIOR?

SE QUE ES UN REGALO Y SOMOS MUY AFORTUNADOS EN CONTAR CON ESTO PERO:

ESTOY SEGURA QUE SI SE SOLICITA CON EL PORQUE....PUEDE SER ESTO RATIFICADO AL
SISTEMA ANTERIOR YA QUE SOLICITAR RECTIFICACIONES A LAS ENTRADAS ACTUALES....
APARTE DE COSTO, TARDADO?

SERIA UNA PENA VER A LOS NUEVOS SOCIOS CON LAS INFRMACIONES INCORRECTAS Y LO
COMPLEJO DE LA LECTURA DE LAS MISMAS.

POR SU ATENCION Y ESTO SI ES POSIBLE NO PUBLICARLO HASTA QUE SE VEA CON EL
GRUPO FUNDADOR?

ATENTAMENTE

MARIA HERNANDEZ

I hope someone can help me, I have reached a dead end. In what town can I find records of people living in Tepesalilla, Baqueria, Huejucar and Ojocaliente, Aguascalientes, in 1700 t0 1750? The Calvillo records do not go back that far. I have tried El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes with no luck. Thanks.

As someone new to geneology I wish to thank all who have contributed to my education at Nuestros Ranchos. I have been very successful in searching lines throughout Jalisco. Now the problem is that the records I need are not available (Don't go back far enough) and are missing. My question is if, for example, baptism records begin for a particular church in 1775, is that when the church first began baptisms and earlier records do not exist? If particular dates are missing (Ten year)does that mean they do not exist? or they were just not posted?
I have searched FamilySearch library and these records are not available to order.
Are their other resources? Is there some list of when particular churches were founded? Thank you for your help. Deedra Corona

Hola Foro,

Tengo dificultad leyendo y comprendiendo una partida de un Libro de Bautismos del 1706. Parte de la razón es porque la página ya se está haciendo pedazos y varias palabras ya no están en la página. Otra razón, más importante, es que se trata del bautizo de un niño que es hijo de una esclava que parece pertenecer al hermano del padre. Además de que la partida no está en la forma tradicional de lugar, fecha, sacerdote, niño/a, padres, padrinos y firma, está incluido el nombre de la esclava y su dueño. ¿Quiénes son los padres? Mi bisabuelo séptimo, Alonso Hernándes de Rueda está incluido con su esposa Chatarina Ramires de Mendosa. La madre, Marcela Faunesca (¿o Tauesca?), de Parisio (¿o Patrisio?), es la esclava de Bernardo Hernándes de Rueda. Al decir que Parisio es mulato esclavo, ¿puede uno inferir que la madre es africana?

La partida toma dos paginas o imágenes, empezando en la sección más abajo y continuando a la siguiente. La imagen, numero 196, donde se encuentra esta partida del registro de Bautismos 1698-1707, de Jalostitlán, Jalisco, se encuentra en este enlace:

https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-53959-60?cc=187459…

¿Puede uno de los expertos de Nuestros Ranchos leerlo y decirme quienes son los padres de Parisio?

Tambien tengo copia digital de las paginas indicadas por si se necesitan.

Agradecidamente,

Javier

I recently report an error with the title of a Guanajuato digitized film, and received a very nice reply:

From: Support
To: gpf13
Subject: Mexico, Guanajuato, Catholic Church Records, 1576-1984: error in source listing
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:44 am

Dear George Fulton,

Thank you for contacting FamilySearch to report incorrect dates given for our
collection , Mexico, Guanajuato, Catholic Church Records, 1576-1984, San
Francisco del Rincón, San Francisco de Asis.

We have reported the error for correction.

We appreciate you for taking the time to supply feedback about your experience
using our Historical Records collections at FamilySearch.Org. It is due to the
diligence and caring of persons such as yourself that is helping to make
FamilySearch a premiere genealogical site.

We invite you to return often as new collections are being added regularly.

Sincerely,
FamilySearch

Una disculpa a las personas que no pudieron ver el correo. Lo que pasó es
que la imagen adjunta no se envió.

Les dejo el link de la Invitación al Curso de Genealogía, para que así todos
puedan verlo: http://lagunagenealogica.club.officelive.com/Boletin.aspx

Pueden encontrarnos en facebook como "EL COLEGIO DE DEMOGRAFÍA DE LA NUEVA
VIZCAYA"

Saludos a todos.

--
Israel Valles
Durango, MX

Los films de bautismos de Teocalitiche han sido de mucho ayuda. ¿Es posible poder añadir los films de bautismos empezando con el año 1639 hasta el año 1774? Yo no tenía la esperanza de llegar tan atras en el pasado. Pero ya que estoy allí, quisiera continuar. Verdaderamente agradezco mucho que estos films estan aqui para nuestro uso. He logrado bastante con la ayuda de Nuestros Ranchos.

¡Gracias Nuestros Ranchos!

Sinceramente,

Javier Romero

I haven't research in Zacatecas for abt 3 weeks and found today I could not get into the online pilot program. Has the site changed address's? Is there a new way to get into it or is it gone??? I had no trouble accessing Jalisco.
any help appreciated
Linda in California for 2 weeks

Friday, Sep 26, 2008

Dear Researches--

For those who can read English, a nice biography can be had of Thomas A. Edison at http://www.thomasedison.com/biography.html.

His connection to San Diego, where I live, is that he put in the electrical lighting at the famous Hotel Del Coronado, or so I have heard.

I suspect that Thomas Edison was such a wonderful scientist that we would all like to claim him as one of our own countrymen. For myself, I would like to say he was Canadian but that would not be true. However, there is another whom I can claim. Henry Woodward, a medical student of Toronto, Ontario, Canada and his friend Matthew Evans invented the light bulb and not Edison. You can read more about it at http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Ontario/first_electric_light_bulb.htm

Best wishes to all.

Sincerely,
Patricia Burton
AKA Patricia Diane Godinez
San Diego, Ca.

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net wrote:

> From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:50 PM
> HOLA OTRA VEZ EMILIE
>
> YO NO DIJO QUE ASI SEA NOMAS COMPARTO LO QUE OI DE NINO EN
> LA ESCUELA NO TIENE NADA DE MALO SUPONER. YO SE QUE LO MAS
> PROBLABLE ES QUE NO SEA CIERTO PERO UNO NUNCA SABE LA VIDA
> NOS DA SORPRESAS SIEMPRE HAY UNA POSIBILIDAD, NO CREES. AL
> FINAL DE CUENTAS ES UNA FANTASIA COMO CASI TODO EN LA VIDA.
>
> SALUDOS.
>
> LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ
>
> -------------- Original message from "Emilie
> Garcia" :
> --------------
>
>
> > Hay, Luis,
> > No puede ser. El nombre del inventor, su apellido, fue
> Edison Elliott, Thomas Alva fue el nombre cristiano
> baptizado, como tu eres Luis Miguel. El inventor no era
> Alba. Los descendientes de el inventor saben donde y cuando
> nacio y donde vivia despues. Tus monjitas son como los demas
> en mexico como en coahuila y zacatecas que creen que el
> apellido era Alba, pero estan equivocados como te conte
> antes. No era de ningun linea Alba o Alva. Thomas Edison
> estaba en Ohio
> > y Michigan desde 1847. De casado vivia en New Jersey y
> Florida.
> >
> > Emilie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> >
> >
> > HOLA LETY ES MUY PROBLABLE QUE SEA CIERTO YO FUI AL
> COLEGIO DE MONJITAS EN SAN MIGUEL Y UNA DE ELLAS ERA DE SAN
> JUAN Y ELLA ESTABA CONVENCIDA DE QUE TOMAS ERA DE SAN
> > JUAN DE LAS FAMILIAS DE ALBA. Y NO ME LO PLATICO UNA
> VEZ SINO MUCHAS.
> > NO VEO PORQUE NO Y LO QUE DICES DE EL PARECIDO CON TU
> PAPA LO CREO PORQUE
> > TAMBIEN ME RECUERDA MUCHO A MI ABUELO (POR PATE DE MI
> PAPA) EN TODOS LOS
> > ASPECTOS MI ABUELO TENIA LA MISMA FISINOMIA LA MISMA
> CARA POSIBLEMENTE TENIAN
> > ALGUNA RELACION SI ES QUE ES CIERTO QUE TOMAS ALBA ERA
> DE JALISCO.
> > SALUDOS
> > LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.
> > -------------- Original message from leticia reynoso
> > >: --------------
> >
> >
> > > Perdon mi abuela decia que su abuela no su
> mama.> From:
> > siriuslr@hotmail.com> To:
> > research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 25
> > Sep 2008 18:11:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros
> Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison> > >
> > <> Edison saco el Alva... pues sus supuestos
> hermanos solo son Edison..y hasta
> > acta
> > > de nacimiento tiene.. pero si tu vez una foto de
> mi papa y una de Thomas
> > Alva
> > > Edison jurarias que tienen algo que ver...en
> fin..tal vez nunca lo sabremos
> > Lety
> > > Reynoso>
> _________________________________________________________________>
>
> > > Realiza búsquedas en Internet y llévate hasta
> ¡Un Auto! >
> > >
> > http://www.ganabuscando.com/Default.aspx&gt; x>>

Alguien tiene en sus investigaciones a Jose Zeferino Alvarez que pudo nacer alrededor de 1740 y caso con Maria Crecencia de Sotomayor , tuvo a sus hijos en el Rancho El Escalon municipio de San Cristobal de la Barranca, Jalisco de el descienden mas del 90% de los Alvarez que radican en San Cristobal de la Barranca y los que han emigrado hacia Zapopan, Jalisco. Yo tengo la mayoria de sus hijos, nietos y bisnietos pero no se ha podido avanzar por falta de registros de San Cristobal.He revisado los documentos de bodas y he encontrado algunos Alvarez mulatos de Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas, algunos de Tepetongo y de la Villa de Jerez que se fueron a vivir a San Cristobal aunque por esas fechas de 1740 habia bastantes Alvarez en Colotlan,Jalisco si alguien tiene datos estare muy agradecido.

Gracias a todos.

--
D.I.V.L.

Does anyone know what church records I would check for this area? I found a possible link to my Villalpandos that died in Leon but was a vecino de Comanxa.

Amalia Hernandez-Arias

I have found what may be a clue however I need help in interpreting handwritting on document found in Guanajuato, Mx, San Miguel de Allende, San Miguel Arcangel, 1790-1810, image 222 of 579 for Ma Vizta, 1798, 5 Abril, hija de Jose Alvarado and Ma Geromina Rodrigz, vezs de____. Any help is greatly appreciated as this may open another door for me. Thanks - Anita

Can someone tell me where I would look for records for La Taberna and La Huerta de Jesus. I was thinking to look in Zapotiltic for Rancho La Taberna and La Huerta for the latter one. Would this be correct or could someone guide me to the correct locality? Could it be one of the other nearby states I should be looking or is it still Jalisco? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Ani

Hola Foro,

Necesito la ayuda de algun miembro experimentado en este tema de la Genealogia, para comprobar que es la misma persona Antonio Hernandez casado con Ygnacia Garcia en 1829 en La Barca, Jalisco (FamilySearch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Matrimonios 1814-1836, imagen 376) y Josef Antonio Hernandez bautisado en La Barca, Jalisco (FamilySearch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Bautismos 1779-1801, imagen 578).

En el acta de Matrimonio, Antonio tiene 27 ano's, lo que hace que el hubiera nacido en 1802 aproximadamente, tambien dice que es "oriundo" de San Antonio y que los Padres son Santos Hernandez y Gertrudis Aguilera.

En el acta de Bautismo, Josef Antonio nacio' en el Rancho de Tejas en 1796, lo que lo hace de aproximadamente 33 ano's para 1829 (fecha del matrimonio), Los Papas son Santos Hernandez y Maria Gertrudis Cruz.

Mis Preguntas/Dudas son:

Que tan confiable era la edad de los "novios" escrita en las actas de matrimonio? se verificaban con el acta de bautismo, o solo se escribia lo que los "novios" afirmaban?

"Oriundo", no es necesariamente el lugar donde naciste, o si? que tal "vecino de...",esto quiere decir que radicas/vives en cierto lugar, verdad?

Puede ser Gertrudis Aguiliera y Maria Gertrudis Cruz, la misma persona?

Hay 3 muy posibles hermanos de Antonio, ellos son: Jose Victorino nacido en 1788 (FamilySerch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Bautismos 1779-1801, imagen 307), jose Marcial nacido en 1802 (FamilySearch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Bautismos 1796-1809, imagen 152) y Jose Martin, bautisado en La Barca, San Juan Bosco en Mayo 2 de 1810 (no tengo imagen).

Alguien sabe donde esta el Rancho de Tejas, en Jalisco? cual podria ser el nombre actual?
*** En Google encontre' un "Bajio de Tejas" en el municipio de Ayotlan (Ayo el Chico), podria ser este el Rancho de Tejas? ya que en algun tiempo, si no me equivoco, Ayotlan pertenecio al municipio de La Barca, Jalisco, no se si Juridicamente o bajo la misma Arquidioses.

Cualquier pista o ayuda sera muy apreciada,

Antemano, muchas Gracias,
Roberto Hdez

Hi fellow researchers,

For those of you interested in Aguascalientes researchers, the book Archivos parroquiales de Aguascalientes has been edited and the price has dropped to 35.00. The primary focus is the XVII century of Aguascalientes, church records, and appendixes that I compiled. Here's the link,

http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/archivos-parroquiales-de-aguascal…

I have some baptisms from 1776 where there are some references to the race of the people.

One is Calidad Coyote. I know that a Coyote was a person who had one parent that was a mestizo and one that was Indian. Does the "calidad" mean, as my Spanish dictionary states, "quality, condition, character, rank, fashion, stipulation"?

And what would Indios de Calidad be? That they were "Indians of high rank"?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Hi,

I was hoping some could look at this record and give me your opinion of
a couple of things I don't understand:

http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/ranchos/PedroTorresDeath1158292v02p28(Fe…

1) What is the word right before this phrase: "De la Villa de
Aguascalientes"?

2) What do ALL the abbreviations at the top left mean?

3) What is the second surname of Maria Ynes de Flores y ???Liras??? I'm
in doubt that this is an "L" since the "L" in Legitimo looks so
different. Also I'm thinking that the last letter really might be an "r"
instead of an "s" since it looks similar to the other "r's" in the
document.

4) Does anyone doing research in Aguas have a Simon Torres married to an
Ynes de Flores y ???

thanks for your help,

joseph

====================

Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

No se si con ustedes pase lo mismo , pero no puedo abrir la pagina de family search

ALSO....
TRY SAN GABRIEL OR TUXCACUESCO

Before "migrating" from New Mexico from where did your family begin its journey?

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this is awesome what I started...well I have a family page if you all would like to see it...all my family my grandfather migrated from New Mexico, to Colorado, Utah and Idaho then us to Arizona. We are all realted...so cool!!

Amalia Hernandez Arias

We have been told for some time that the Pilot Site would be going away eventually.

During that time changes have been made to Record Search, the availability of records has dramatically increased, but new records have not been added to Pilot, and the functionality has been improved. There were things with the Pilot Search feature that I thought were better, although I have recently noticed that the Record Search search feature has changed also. I’m not sure how the system works with accented letters, for example. I have found I cannot put in words with accents, but the results may have accents, depending on how the data was entered.

The advanced search works OK, but improvements could be made. The “match term exactly” check box seems to be “sort of” workable; I still get results that don’t match, but these seem to be separated from the others (ie, further down on the list).

A feature I like is that I can copy text from Record Search results, but could not from Pilot.

I would like to think that everything that was available in Pilot has been transferred to Record Search.

The older IGI, which is still available, has some features that are nice, but once again, it has been rather limited in the available data, and some of the search features there are subject to rather arbitrary constraints. New data is not being added. “Limited” is perhaps an odd term; there are millions of records in the IGI, but there are billions at Record Search.

I had considered the three systems complementary, rather than mutually exclusive, and developed some processes for effective and hopefully, thorough search. As Record Search continues to improve, the features that were in Pilot will seem less useful.

I can see Record Search continuing to evolve. As many more records go online, the current structure for finding specific record sets is going to get unwieldy, so changes will need to be made.

I can also envision the search functionality getting to be more sophisticated. I would like to see the addition of a wildcard search.

Rather than complain, I would suggest we offer constructive comments. We should note that the developers must look at our suggestions in view of the bigger user group. A change that effects only a small set of users, while not addressing the larger issues is not a good use of resources. This also goes with what records are made available when. There are certain areas that I would really like to see, but they may be further down on the list, and will eventually get there. I was thrilled when Aguascalientes came on line, and was a little dismayed that Zacatecas was at the end of the alphabet. Needless to say, when it came on line, I was pleased. We need some patience.

I look back at the hours I’ve spent at the old microfilm readers (not to mention the cost), and recall marking the spools of film with little pieces of paper so I could take it to the scanner/printer people to get a print, that was sometimes good, but more often not. The digital images we have today are really pretty amazing. We’ve come a long ways since then, and will continue to improve.

I, for one, am truly grateful for the resources we have been given.

George Fulton