--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote: > > While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez > de Hermosillo. " > > I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for? I believe it refers to a secondary degree, bachiller. For example, see http:// www.musicologiavenezolana.com/bperezr/cuerpo4.htm I have see this designation often in old records from Mesquitic area. Ed
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Thank you Ed for your response to my
question about the meaning of "Br." Other members of the group have also come up with the answer, Bachiller. Thanks to all of you.
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Hi Charles, This is the e-mail address I have for Jose Luis: asturias_vazquez@... It may or may not be current since I haven't corresponded with him in a couple of years. Maria --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Clark"wrote: > > Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e- mail and > postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book and would > like to replace it. > > Sincerely, > > Charles Clark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:40 AM > Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 676 > > > > There are 15 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Need help with title. > From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> > 2. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund" > From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes > 3. Re: Need help with title. > From: "Emilie Garcia"
Dear John,
(I've always wondered what it felt like to write that!:P) My Cenobio was born in Jerez around 1846, and I don't know if he was an only child or youngest or middle or oldest son. I found matrimonial information pertaining to his first marriage in 1864. His first wife was Eleuteria Tovar and she was 15 to his 18 years. They had the following children: Josepha, Candelaria, Jesus, and Herlindo (1878).
My great-grandmother, Francisca Saldivar, was his second wife. With her, he had Paula (1883), Matteo, Jose (1899), Juan, Altagracia (1894), Sarah, and Francisco. Hope we can connect somehow. Marge:)
On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:09 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
Hi Margarita:
My grandmother was from Jerez and her last name was Gonzalez. I have not had a chance to start looking in that area yet. Her name was Apolonia Gonzalez married to Preciliano Cerros. About 1880...
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Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-mail and
postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book and would
like to replace it.
Sincerely, Charles Clark
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From:
To:Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:40 AM Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 676 There are 15 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Need help with title. From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@...> 2. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund" From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes 3. Re: Need help with title. From: "Emilie Garcia" 4. Re: Need help with title. From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@...> 5. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund" From: Alicia Carrillo 6. RE: "Ranchos Support Fund" From: "Irma GomezLucero" 7. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund" From
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Hi Margarita: My grandmother was from Jerez and her last name was Gonzalez. I have not had a chance to start looking in that area yet. Her name was Apolonia Gonzalez married to Preciliano Cerros. About 1880...
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Is anyone else besides me descended from Cenobio Gonzalez? His parents are Prudencio Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. I'm stuck there, can't find anything about their parents! Any of you Gonzalezes out there connected to them? Help! Marge V:)
On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:43 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
Thank you for the information Jose.
Have you researched your "GONZALEZ" side of your family yet?
I am a Gonzalez from the "Gonzalez de Hermosillo" from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.
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Thank you for the information Jose.
Have you researched your "GONZALEZ" side of your
family yet? I am a Gonzalez from the "Gonzalez de Hermosillo"
from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.
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I can give a very brief account of what I've been
doing, but I feel that being able to go back about 455 years was mostly luck and the fact that my ancestors stayed in the same town (Jalostotitlan, Jal.) for that whole period. From about 1550 to 1917 , when my Grandfather brought his family to California. I got started with the family tree about 5 months
ago, not knowing anything at all about findings roots and doing research. I was surfing the internet one day and just happened to run into the Ranchos web site. I noticed that the area of research being done by the group was mainly in Los Altos and sorrounding areas. I only had one piece of information when I started, and that was that my grandfather was from Jalisco and that he had been born in 1875. I went to visit a cousin, who is 80 plus years
old, to see if I could get him to tell me something about the family. I found out that the family was from Jalostotitlan, and that they had come to California |
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great questions thanks Ed. . .I'll be using many if not all. --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes |
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Suave! 1550. . .wow. give us the details. You don't have to tell every |
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Well the support committee would be making the final decision on that.
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Hi Joseph,
What would these funds be used for. I'm
not real clear on this... Irma
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Puentes Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:04 PM To: LosRanchos Subject: [ranchos] "Ranchos Support Fund" For now we are over a hundred members strong. I would like to |
Joseph,
If all are in agreement I think this is a good idea. You can count me for a $25 pledge.
Olivia
So. Calif.
Joseph Puenteswrote: For now we are over a hundred members strong. I would like to run
something past you that is open for discussion. Would anyone object to
having a completely optional "Ranchos Support Fund"?
I was thinking if a few of us sent in a few buck we might be able to
have $100 stipends available to send off to members that are in need or
for projects that are supportive of the Ranchos Group. This effort would
need a volunteer "use" committee which would have at least 3 members (no
ties) and one of those would be a treasurer to hold the funds. Before
the "use" committee would decide on a
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Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez de Hermosillo was in charge of
the Church ( Templo San Jose) in Teocaltiche, Jal. But my guess is that he was either a son or a brother of my ggggg granfather. I'll probably find out later. I am related to Santo Toribio Romo. Third cousin, once removed. Have you ever heard of this Saint? Santo Toribio Romo was from Santa Ana, Jalisco, just outside of Jalos. They have just placed some of his relics in the new (remodeled) Cathedral in Sacramento! He is the patron saint of the immigrants. By the way...Last week I was able to trace my ancestry
all the way back to about 1550 !!! 11 generations and Iam still in Jalostotitlan! but I hit the wall...I guess Iam going to have to start looking in a different direction now. Thank you for your help Emilie.
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John, According to Google "Br. Pbro." means Bachiller Presbitero. You had a priest as an ancestor? Or was he a professor of some kind? Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA ---
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For now we are over a hundred members strong. I would like to run
something past you that is open for discussion. Would anyone object to
having a completely optional "Ranchos Support Fund"?
I was thinking if a few of us sent in a few buck we might be able to
have $100 stipends available to send off to members that are in need or
for projects that are supportive of the Ranchos Group. This effort would
need a volunteer "use" committee which would have at least 3 members (no
ties) and one of those would be a treasurer to hold the funds. Before
the "use" committee would decide on a "use" they would bring up the use
for group discussion. but after the discussion the decision for the use
would be made by the committee.
If this is something that you all would consider going forward on then I
would like to nominate Kitty Cortez to be one of
While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez de Hermosillo. " I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for? I know it is a religious title. Is there any member out there that has any idea or can suggest a resource to look it up? Any help will be greatly appreciated. The subject was my gggggg Grandfather from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.
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On thing I've noticed since this group was
started and that is if there is ever a lack of participation all I have to do is say anything at all about Comida and watch out I'm about stampeded with people rushing to send messages. I guess I said all that only to say that I need some content for my Nuestra Familia Unida podcast project "Comida" section. Does anyone here feel comfortable working with me to create an audio file on some aspect of Historical Mexican Food? It could be a reading from a book, it could be reading some short oral history of your family related to some food and then the recipe. It could be a talk about how the food preparation was an integral part of your families history. I think you all get my point. Let me know if anyone is interested. . .I'll call you and we can discuss it further off the list. the list will be able to hear the finished product at the http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/comida.html page. also I'm still looking for contributors for the |
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puenteswrote: > > > All the Colotlan and nearby area researchers of this group. Help me come > up with some interview questions for these Historiadores. > > what do you want to know? > > joseph > > 1. What is the mining history of Colotlan? 2. Were the inhabitants of Colotlan and nearby areas migratory in nature, looking for the best jobs they could? 3. Did the Native American Indians of Colotlan survive? Are they still there? 4. Is it true the haciendas turned over every three generations? 5. What percent of the population in the 1700's and 1800's actually lived in the "city", like Colotlan vis-á-vis on the small ranches/haciendas? 6. How did Colotlan compare in the 1700's and 1800's to the major cities of Guadalajuara and Mexico City? 7. Who were the important figures in Colotlan history, both Spanish and Native American Indian? 8. How much influence did the Catholic Church have in the area? How much land did the
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Joseph A shot on initals M.E.ad Medico Especialista Administrador Jose Munoz --- Joseph Puenteswrote: > In that death cert for my GGG grandfather, Tadeo > Diaz. What do you think > the letters mean on the left: > > M. E. ad ? is it ad or something else. I would guess > the E is for > Espanol but what about the M and ad? > > joseph > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com