Nuestros Ranchos Site

Irma,

You could save the map to a file then open it up in photo editer 
program.  Crop it to remove all the white space from the sides then 
resize it to your page (8x11.5).  Make sure when you resize it that 
you maintain the same proportions.  Usally in the photo editer 
programs there is usually a check box for that.  You should then be 
able to print.

Good luck.
Angie


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Irma GomezLucero" 
 wrote:
>
> What a jewel.  I can several of my ranchos.  Is there a way to get a
> copy of the entire map.  I am able to view the entire map, but can 
only
> print out the left top portion.
>  
> Irma
>

si, he visto solo de paso esa decendencia pero nada que llegue a mi acendencia; un compañero dijo que en cuestion de genealogia "nosotros vamos hacia ellos, ellos no vienen a nosotros": oñate, el apellido se extendio por toda la iberia y no tengo ninguna noticia de cual region podrian ser los mios. Muchas gracias por la orientacion.

Arturo Ramos escribió:

Lili:

Have you explored the possible descendancy from Juan de Onate and
clan?  The name seems rare enough that it is likely most Onates in
Mexico are descendants of the same family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Onate


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "lili pinzon"

Joseph,

 

If you can read recipes in a book and

Interesting map
Thanks for the map.  I found a ranch or pueblo where
one of my greatggggmothers once lived-S. Jose de la
Isla, approximately on the year 1797.  I also
confirmed the road that once ran through my
greatggggfathers ranch Lo de Luna; the road was a
direct line from Jerez to Zacatecas, and my
great--uncle Tiburcio Duarte in 1815 charged the
stagecoach line for passing through his ranch or road.


Albert Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California 

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> I've put this link to the 1876 map of Jalisco in the
> Links area under maps:
> 
>
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/RANCHOS/maps/IstDraft2_copy.jpg
> 
> thanks Gloria Delgado for providing the map from the
> UC Berkeley Library.
> 
> joseph
> 
> 





		
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Hi Ed,

Thank you for responding and for your insights. It has spurred me on
to more research.

After much searching I finally know my haplogroup. I went back to
FamilyTree/Ancestry.com and looked up my results again. They did not
list my haplogroup but referred me to a Haplogroup motifs website
http://www.stats.gla.ac.uk/~vincent/founder2000/motif.html

My haplogroup is U5a1a. From my mtDNA. You are correct in assuming
my dad is dead. His sister is also dead and left no biological
children. My brother will give me his YDNA sample to research with.

Thanks for the information

but my research is for the towns of jalostotitlan and san miguel el alto

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "lili pinzon"  wrote:
>
> sorry, forgot to say that part of the family stablished in Jesus 
> Maria, Jalisco, the ranch is called Mesa de Oñate, neighbor to ranchos 
> Puertecito and Paso Bajo owned by familia Leon, decendants of De Cos Y
> Leon. So Long Leticia Leon Morales
>


Lilli,

I have run across a number of Oñate family members coming over from Spain on my review 
of Archivos en Red. Unfortunately I can not tell you which year it was since I had no need to 
make copies. I have reviewed every record in the Pasajeros list from 1635 to 1790 which is 
the time frame you will find the Oñates; quite a number came over. If you use the Archivos en 
Red, be very patient.

Ed

Lili:

Have you explored the possible descendancy from Juan de Onate and 
clan?  The name seems rare enough that it is likely most Onates in 
Mexico are descendants of the same family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Onate


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "lili pinzon"  wrote:
>
> sorry, forgot to say that part of the family stablished in Jesus 
> Maria, Jalisco, the ranch is called Mesa de Oñate, neighbor to 
ranchos 
> Puertecito and Paso Bajo owned by familia Leon, decendants of De Cos Y
> Leon. So Long Leticia Leon Morales
>

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"
wrote:
>
> Victor.......is this the complete
message? It appears that you left off in
> the middle of a
sentence......Thanks! Josie
>
> _____
>

Josie, it
looks like the message got truncated.  Below is a copy of that same
message.

----------------------->

That's a keen observation and
a good question about the number of differences in our mtDNA in relation to the
CRS reference.

Let's start by saying that the CRS (Cambridge Reference
Sequence) is just an arbitrary reference selected by some team of geneticist
that were among the first to study the genetic sequences of mitochondrial
DNA. 

sorry, forgot to say that part of the family stablished in Jesus 
Maria, Jalisco, the ranch is called Mesa de Oñate, neighbor to ranchos 
Puertecito and Paso Bajo owned by familia Leon, decendants of De Cos Y
Leon. So Long Leticia Leon Morales

hello everybody  I uploaded a portion of my genealogy on the maternal 
side of my father, this Oñate resided in San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Gto. 
(nowadays is City Manuel Doblado), legend in the family said that four 
brothers came from Spain, two stayed and two went back. When was it 
and who and who where they? my father doesn`t know. Maybe happened in 
1820`s or maybe far long. Anybody related? Go to ranchos 2 and look in 
the folder of genealogies  Thankyou all.  Leticia Leon Morales aka 
lili pinzon

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Linda R Romero's Ancestors/Ramon Romero, Sr.-Marie L. Hallstead.doc 
  Uploaded by : imanoldretiree  
  Description :  

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Regards,

imanoldretiree 
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Linda R Romero's Family 
  Uploaded by : imanoldretiree  
  Description : Romero, de la Torre of Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Linda%20R%20Romero%27s%20Family 

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Regards,

imanoldretiree 
 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" wrote:
>
> Victor.......is this the complete message? It appears that you left off in
> the middle of a sentence......Thanks! Josie
>
> _____
>

Josie, it looks like the message got truncated.  Below is a copy of that same message.

----------------------->

That's a keen observation and a good question about the number of differences in our mtDNA in relation to the CRS reference.

Let's start by saying that the CRS (Cambridge Reference Sequence) is just an arbitrary reference selected by some team of geneticist that were among the first to study the genetic sequences of mitochondrial DNA.  They decided to use the sequence of one of their subjects as a comparison reference, maybe one of their own samples, who knows?.  The selected mtDNA belongs to haplogroup H, the most prevalent haplogroup in Europe.  Therefore many European persons who get tested have few differences if any with the CRS reference.

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