Nuestros Ranchos Site

Hello Emily,

Thanks for sharing.  I have learned practically all of the tricks of
searching the IGI, including the one you wish to know:  the wildcard.
(%).  It works fine in the First Name and Last Name fields.  But don't
tell anyone that I told you!!

The best way to search the IGI is by batch number.  The problem is you
first need to build your own database of available batch numbers for
the locality that you're searching.

Un Saludo Cordial
Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
wrote:
> Recently I sat down after a long time away from browsing the
FamilySearchcom's IGI database, and after many years of searching, I
found three more generations back on my father's side who were from
Tepetongo, Zacatecas, and all in one sitting.  I had tried looking for
these people for years, but had no luck, and they were there all the
time. I guess the other day their spirits were with me (I do beseech
them to show themselves), and they wanted to be found

Jonathan,

Good to know about your work.  When it comes to doing research on the
IGI, I've always wondered if it would be possible to query the
database thru a more flexible or versatile user interface, like one
that could use a greater number of filtering criteria, among other things.

I don't understand either the reasons, for example, of limiting the
download of recordsets to 50 records at a time.  Why aren't we allowed
to download a full recordset by batch number instead. Just imagine if
we could process a batch of records at once and have some kind of
tools to normalize and reconcile all the records in a whole book!  

That would be a blessing not only for genealogists but for the Church
 own purposes and everyone else.  Short of being able to display
online the digital image of the parochial records, these are some of
the things that I would like to see.  Just some thoughts!

Best Regards!
Victor Villarreal

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "mexicanfhr"  wrote:
>

When I was a kid, we use to go to Momax, Zacatecas every other 
Christmas Break.  We would spend about 2-3 weeks in Mexico visiting all 
the relatives.  In Momax, they would celebrate the Posada.  At the end 
they would pass out candy, peanuts and oranges to all the kids...happy 
memories... ;-)

Also, regarding a previous inquiring relating to "Day of the Dead."  My 
family didn't celebrate this ritural from the way I see people 
celebrating today, but they did go to the cementery on "All Saints Day" 
and/or "All Souls Day", which is the same day as "Day of the Dead".  
Normally they would take a reef of flowers and pray the rosary.

Just my two centavos...
Angie Godina

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> someone asked me about the "Posada" ritual.
> 
> maybe it was happening around me in CA when I wasn't looking but for 
the 
> life of me I don't know anything about this. Can someone give me a 
clue 
> as to whether or not my relatives living in

Victor,

I am in the process, of developing my own tools.  Because several
years ago, I went to the FHL in Salt Lake, looking for some tools. 
And I was told that what I was looking for did not exist,  And that if
I wanted it.  I would have to write myself.  So That is what I am doing.  

And I figureed who should know better about what researchers need and
want, that people who are doing reseach.  And that is why I was asking.

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" 
wrote:
> Hello Jonathan,
> 
> Could you please elaborate a little on your question.  Are you
> currently developing research tools on your own or do you mean tools
> at familysearch, etc.?
> 
> Victor
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "mexicanfhr"  wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I wanted ask, the Ranchos, Juarez, and Mexicanfhr groups,  what
> > research helps or tools, would you all like to see developed.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> >

I grew up in the Los Angeles area in the 40's, moved to Compton, CA for 
a few years, then to Cucamonga, CA in 1952. I do not remember that my 
family practiced the Posada tradition, but seem to remember that we may 
have attended a "Posada" on Olvera Street during the Christmas season. 
I remember attending "Posadas" in Mexico City in the early 60's. I love 
the concept of the posada, but it always seemed like a lot of work to 
put it into practice for just my family.
Now - how about "La Pastorela"? Is this strictly a tradition in the 
southhwest? Again, this is not a tradition that was a part of my family.
How about yours?
Y'all have a good day. Take care.

Natalie in VA

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	The "Posada" Ritual
Date:	Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:49:57 -0500
From:	Joseph Puentes
To:	LosRanchos

someone asked me about the "Posada" ritual.

maybe it was happening around me in CA when I wasn't looking but for the 
life of me I don't know anything about this. Can someone give me a clue 
as to whether or not my relatives living in the 18th century and being 
from Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes were involved in a "Posada" 
ritual?

joseph

ps: how was that for making the question on target?

ERROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sorry...when I was in SLC last year........I somehow got into some film that had padrones from Jalisco/Zac area.....these were put together by Dr. Doug Inglis and filmed.....I cannot for the life of me....find them....I will try to find the film in Utah.....it was the first time I had seen the census  of that area...????

Somehow or another my filing system leaves a lot to be desired!!



Mickey

[[[If you can get into the other parts of ranchos (links, files, photos,
etc.) but can't get into the this area please contact me]]]

go to the links area

go to AAAAA Genealogies

go to Ken Alva and click on "Jose Alonso de ALBA"

click on "Ken Alva (KMAlva@...)" and choose to open in "Word"


here you will see his genealogy for these geographical locations:

Encarnacion de Diaz, Lagos de Moreno, Santa Maria de los Lagos, San
Miguel de los Alba, Jalostitlan, Teocaltiche, and Ojuelos,
Jalisco/Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes

[[[Note to Ken (great job). . .did I forget any locations? Sorry but
Ojuelos is in Jalisco right???]]]

When I met him in November 2000, he did not. However, his friend and kinsman (and mine, too), Leonardo de la Torre Berumen has email (just look in Somos Primos). Leonardo has written many articles for SP. Marge:)

On Aug 20, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Alberto Duarte wrote:

Marge:

Does Mr. Bernardo del Hoyo Calzado have an email

address? I've read his book for a copy of years, and I

also want to the Dolores cemetery when I visited Jerez

a couple of years ago.



Regards.



Alberto Duarte Prieto.

Santa Maria, California









--- Joseph Puentes wrote:



>

> A Personal Research Adventure of a Scots-Irish

> Mexican American

>

>                                                  by

> Marge Vallazza

>

> For most of my life, I knew little of my personal

> Mexican heritage. I

> knew a lot about Mexico and its history but because

> my Scots mother was

> our primary caretaker, I knew and cared more about

> my Scots and

> Anglo-Irish heritage than my Hispanic one. After

Erlinda,

Take a look at this interesting document, which rises Villa de León to
the rank of Ciudad de León:

http://www.leonmex.com/media/27.jpg

Victor

Erlinda,

My impression is that Villa de León in your records refers to what is
now the city of León, Guanajuato.  

http://www.leongto.com.mx/secciones/historia/historia_colonial.htm

You can locate it in the neighboring state of Jalisco, right across
the border from Lagos de Moreno.

HIH

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
> I'm doing records from Zapotlan El Grande Jalisco and am finding 
> families from Villa de Leon Mexico.. any idea where that is?  I 
> checked the wonderful location dictionary but found nothing. The time 
> period is early to mid 1700's.  The families are Losa y Linares, 
> Sanches de la Mejorada and Lopes de Lara and Alcaraz.
> 
> any help appreciated
> Linda in Wa.

Santos Luna wrote:

Ahhhh Joseph....You are sooo kind....saying that I was part of the
normal group.

pues seguro que si. . .of course you are normal, maybe a little more
normal that the rest.

Glad you did not talk to some of my relatives prior to our meeting.

Fearless leader....you, and Figen are absolutely...
wonderful... delightful....awesome...

Our encounter was as if we were long lost relatives... having a reunion.

Thank you, and Figen for taking the time from your busy schedule to
meet with us.

Your "wanta be cousin" ....Helyn

I really think we are through our Castañeda's but time will tell.

XXXXXXXXXXX

thanks for the kisses but how about the hugs

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO more back to you.

joseph

ps: my wife took the photo and I couldn't find the one that had her in
it. everybody in the picture is listed from left to right:

HelynCastanedaKittyCortezAliciaCarrilloJosephPuentesRichCortezL-R_08_01_2005.jpg

I'm doing records from Zapotlan El Grande Jalisco and am finding 
families from Villa de Leon Mexico.. any idea where that is?  I 
checked the wonderful location dictionary but found nothing. The time 
period is early to mid 1700's.  The families are Losa y Linares, 
Sanches de la Mejorada and Lopes de Lara and Alcaraz.

any help appreciated
Linda in Wa.

randy koch is the autor of the poem "La Noche Triste" wich I found in 
the files of Ranchos2 and from now on I'll write your ID correctly, 
thank you makas

Hello Jonathan,

Could you please elaborate a little on your question.  Are you
currently developing research tools on your own or do you mean tools
at familysearch, etc.?

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "mexicanfhr"  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I wanted ask, the Ranchos, Juarez, and Mexicanfhr groups,  what
> research helps or tools, would you all like to see developed.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan

I HAVE THE PAF VERSION 4.0.4

                  SO LONG

How about lists of archives in the US that have materials on our target
area.

for example I know UC Berkeley has an extensive amount of information
Duke has many books but I wouldn't call it extensive
I would guess there are other store houses of info

also how about some kind of resources about the major archives in
Mexico. I know there is great resources in Guadalajara but if I was
going there tomorrow I wouldn't know where to look and what type of
materials to look for. I also know that there is great resources in
Mexico City that are probably duplicates of information that is in
certain archives in Spain. Doesn't the Mexico City archive(s) have
certain parts of the Archivo de Indias. I'd love to know what needs to
be ordered from Spain and what could be accessed in Mexico City.

Well I'm just rambling. . .maybe others have more doable ideas,

thanks for asking the question,

joseph


mexicanfhr wrote:

Hello Everyone,



I wanted ask, the Ranchos, Juarez, and Mexicanfhr