Nuestros Ranchos Site

The priest never had the faith.

Alberto.

--- Emilie Garcia  wrote:

> Joseph,
> 
> That is so interesting about the DNA Project.   
> 
> I have talked with Mr. Greenspan (via e-mail),
> president of the Family Tree DNA project, several
> times.  He is very nice.  He says to e-mail him any
> time.  He is a professor at the University of
> Arizona.  I had seen a story about a Hispanic priest
> in Albuquerque who now wears both a cross and a Star
> of David, since the DNA project showed not only that
> he was of Jewish heritage, but of the highest order,
> the Cohanim, direct descendants of Moses and his
> brother Aaron.  Mr. Greenspan said that he started
> the project for Jews to find out what Jewish groups
> they belong to (where in the hierarchy they fit). 
> The highest is the Cohanim [priest], then there is
> the Levite [temple servant], everybody else is
> Ysraelite.
> 
> I have heard many stories that many of our early
> 15th century Spanish ancestors in

Members and cousins:
It would be very interesting if we all had our dna
results, but I believe we would be very much the same
since we share the same Mexican ancestors and they
also came from the same region of Mexico, Spain,
Portugal.

Any comments?

Alberto.

--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> If we can only go through the female line, then I'll
> have to go through 
> another site.  My mother was from Scotland, and her
> mother was from 
> Ireland.:(  Marge
> On Jun 21, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Erlinda Castanon-Long
> wrote:
> 
> > I would love to see how others did thier dna
> tests. I feel cheated as
> >  a female that I can only do the mtdna
> (female)line. I ordered mine
> >  through Gary Felix's site.  My husband ordered
> his from another even
> >  though it's the same lab.. he does not have
> ancestors from Mexico.  My
> >  test kit arrived in 10 days, my husbands took 6
> weeks to arrive.  I'm
> >  waiting for my results now and expect them by the
> end of June.  I

If we can only go through the female line, then I'll have to go through another site. My mother was from Scotland, and her mother was from Ireland.:( Marge

On Jun 21, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

I would love to see how others did thier dna tests. I feel cheated as

a female that I can only do the mtdna (female)line. I ordered mine

through Gary Felix's site.  My husband ordered his from another even

though it's the same lab.. he does not have ancestors from Mexico.  My

test kit arrived in 10 days, my husbands took 6 weeks to arrive.  I'm

waiting for my results now and expect them by the end of June.  I also

like how the Mexico site will hold our results for 25 years and will

notify us if there is a match with someone.



I don't fully understand how they analize the results but expect to

find African, Espanol and Indio blood lines if my research records are

correct.  I'm hoping they break it down in percentages, Joseph, do you

know how it's done?

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Linda Castanon-Long (longsjourney@...)/CalderaGenealogyDistrictofJerezZacatecasMexico.doc 
  Uploaded by : makas_nc  
  Description : Caldera 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Linda%20Castanon-Long%20%28longsjourney%40hotmail.com%29/CalderaGenealogyDistrictofJerezZacatecasMexico.doc 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

makas_nc 
 

I would love to see how others did thier dna tests. I feel cheated as 
a female that I can only do the mtdna (female)line. I ordered mine 
through Gary Felix's site.  My husband ordered his from another even 
though it's the same lab.. he does not have ancestors from Mexico.  My 
test kit arrived in 10 days, my husbands took 6 weeks to arrive.  I'm 
waiting for my results now and expect them by the end of June.  I also 
like how the Mexico site will hold our results for 25 years and will 
notify us if there is a match with someone.

I don't fully understand how they analize the results but expect to 
find African, Espanol and Indio blood lines if my research records are 
correct.  I'm hoping they break it down in percentages, Joseph, do you 
know how it's done?

Linda Castanon-Long

Hi Joseph,
How does one go about getting the DNA testing?  I think, now, I'm pretty interested.
Thanks
Peggy Delgado
> 
> From: Joseph Puentes 
> Date: 2005/06/21 Tue PM 02:53:49 EDT
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] YDNA/MtDNA
> 
> I did both mine. I posted my Ydna results to the group but haven't for 
> my Mt dna. My Mt dna goes back to Africa probably a black slave got into 
> my line many generations ago.
> 
> I'm going to eventually make up a YDNA/MtDNA folder in the files area 
> where those that are interested can post their results. As far as I know 
> very few in the group have done dna testing. I'm hoping for more 
> interest as we grow older.
> 
> joseph
> 
> Victor Villarreal wrote:
> 
> >Alicia,
> >
> >I agree.  This really must be an exciting finding for Steven.  
> >I've also wondered how many in the Ranchos group have done a DNA 
> >study (either Y-DNA or mtDNA) or are considering doing one?
> >
> >What is gradually showing up by those who

 ¿How do you do that?

 I found out how to create a shortcut to give you the upside down ¿ in Word.
It doesn't work in e-mail.  I copied pasted this e-mail from Word.  

Go into 
Insert
Symbol
Symbols folder
Find the ¿ question mark upside down about 8 rows down second from the end
of the chart.  Highlight the upside down ? mark ¿ and click on Shortcut
Key... Tab at the bottom of the Symbol screen.  

This brings you to the Customize Keyboard where I then assigned ALT ? as my
shortcut key for the upside down question mark ¿  

Hope this helps.

Kitty

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
George Luna
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:03 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] PAF Help Needed!!!

Find the .paf file by doing a search for the name. Right click on the file
and choose properties. Uncheck "read only".
Luna

Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Problem
> Date

You will.  

Albeto.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> I did both mine. I posted my Ydna results to the
> group but haven't for 
> my Mt dna. My Mt dna goes back to Africa probably a
> black slave got into 
> my line many generations ago.
> 
> I'm going to eventually make up a YDNA/MtDNA folder
> in the files area 
> where those that are interested can post their
> results. As far as I know 
> very few in the group have done dna testing. I'm
> hoping for more 
> interest as we grow older.
> 
> joseph
> 
> Victor Villarreal wrote:
> 
> >Alicia,
> >
> >I agree.  This really must be an exciting finding
> for Steven.  
> >I've also wondered how many in the Ranchos group
> have done a DNA 
> >study (either Y-DNA or mtDNA) or are considering
> doing one?
> >
> >What is gradually showing up by those who have done
> genetic testing 
> >is that most of us with Mexican roots have a
> European paternal 
> >lineage and a Native American maternal ancestry.
> >
> >Saludos
> >Victor
> >
> >
>

Victor Villarreal wrote:

Hello Emilie,

I too have my keyboard configured for International English. As you
know, in my case Spanish is my native language and English is my second
one.

Regarding the upside down question mark (or should it be right side
up), ¿Has intentado usar la combinación de teclas "Alt" a la derecha
del la barra espaciadora y la tecla con el signo de interrogación?

sorry but I didn't get it. . .can you give us this last sentence in English?

thanks,

joseph

ps: are Teclas "keys" . . .actually as I'm reading it again I think I'm
getting it. Tell me if this is right, "Have you intended to use the
combination keys Alt to the right of the space bar and the Question mark
key? Is that close.

Saludos
Victor Villarreal





Yahoo! Groups Links

Alicia,

I agree.  This really must be an exciting finding for Steven.  
I've also wondered how many in the Ranchos group have done a DNA 
study (either Y-DNA or mtDNA) or are considering doing one?

What is gradually showing up by those who have done genetic testing 
is that most of us with Mexican roots have a European paternal 
lineage and a Native American maternal ancestry.

Saludos
Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
> Steven,
>  
> How exciting that you found this information and that it's a 
possibility that you may have made a connection with your ancestral 
tribe.
>  
> I feel happy for you and a little envy that you have come so far 
and that you may have Otomi blood lines. Have you by chance done the 
DNA study on anyone in your family? That would be interesting to see 
where it takes you.
>  
> Alicia
> 
> "Steve G. Apodaca"  wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I want to share what I recently found and check if anybody is 
>

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
> There is an easier way to do Spanish Language characters on the 
computer (instead of remembering 3-digit numbers for each character).  
>
> (message clipped)
>
>      There is also a list for other characters that can by typed by 
using ALT plus other keys for the letters U, A, and O with an umwalt 
(sp?), the character for Paragraph, and the one for the upside down 
exclamation point (can't use that last one on MSN Explorer, only 
Outlook Express.  I couldn't find a way to do the upside down question 
mark.   
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, 

Hello Emilie,

I too have my keyboard configured for International English.  As you 
know, in my case Spanish is my native language and English is my second 
one.

Regarding the upside down question mark (or should it be right side 
up), ¿Has intentado usar la combinación de teclas "Alt" a la derecha 
del la barra espaciadora y la tecla con el signo de

Hello.

I want to share what I recently found and check if anybody is
related to these ancestors. A couple days ago, I finally checked the
marriage record of my ancestors from Los Altos.

My 2nd greatgrandfather Juan Tapia married my 2nd greatgrandmother
Bibiana Martinez in Lagos de Moreno on February 5, 1879. Juan's
parents were Atanacio Tapia and Secundina Olivares. Bibiana's
parents were Juan Martinez and Matiana Lopez. Before reading this
document I just knew that my Tapia ancestros were from "somewhere in
Los Altos", according to my grandmother. She did not remember

I would like to thank the people who took the time to answer my plea 
for help. I believe I found a solution to the problem, thanks to
Aajay 
suggestions. I was able to export the file with the ".ged" file 
extension.  When I imported it back, it went to my Ancestry Family 
Tree program which also resides on the same drive.

I went back to the PAF program and was not sucessful in my attempts
to 
start a new file.  It looks like the program itself went belly-up.

I don't have a disk for the PAF program. It was downloaded from the 
LDS web site.(for free)  I am not sure whether I want to use that 
program again or to stick with the old one (AFT).

Thank you again everybody.

Thank you Joseph. 

Find the .paf file by doing a search for the name. Right click on the
file and choose properties. Uncheck "read only".

Luna

Joseph Puentes wrote:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Problem
Date: 	Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:51:57 -0700
From: 	John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...>
To: 	Joseph Puentes 



Joseph:

I need some help. Do you know if there is anybody out there who is
using the LDS program: PAF 5.2 who might be able to help me with a
problem?

Here's the problem: I was trying to make some changes to my Windows
XP program, but the changes didn't work. I had to reboot my computer
in "Safe Mode" and ran the restore program. Everything started
working again, except for the PAF program.
I can bring it up but it comes up as a "read only" program. I can
view all of my data, I can print it out, but it is not allowing me to
make changes to it or enter new data. I think the computer recovered
the PAF program from the back-up file that was probably "write

John,

It sounds like your genealogy file might be set to read-only.  If you 
open up My Computer (or Windows Explorer) look in the folder where 
you have your genealogy file stored.  The file will have a .PAF 
extension.  Right-click on the file, select properties and see if the 
attribute read-only at the bottom is checked.  If it is, then uncheck 
it and click OK.  That should reset your genealogy database to 
read/write.  It doesn't sound like the PAF program is the culprit, 
but your genealogy database is.  To test my theory you could create a 
brand new genealogy database and see if you can read and write to 
it.  If you can, then my theory is correct.  If not, email and I'll 
help you troubleshoot it.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Problem
> Date: 	Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:51:57 -0700
> From: 	John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@v...>
> To: 	Joseph Puentes 
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph:
>  
> I need

Hello.

I want to share what I recently found and check if anybody is 
related to these ancestors. A couple days ago, I finally checked the 
marriage record of my ancestors from Los Altos.

My 2nd greatgrandfather Juan Tapia married my 2nd greatgrandmother 
Bibiana Martinez in Lagos de Moreno on February 5, 1879. Juan's 
parents were Atanacio Tapia and Secundina Olivares. Bibiana's 
parents were Juan Martinez and Matiana Lopez. Before reading this 
document I just knew that my Tapia ancestros were from "somewhere in 
Los Altos", according to my grandmother. She did not remember where 
were they from. Now, I know that they were from a rancho near Lagos 
called Cañada de Ricos. Is anybody familiar with this name? I 
checked the Jalisco census on the files area and found out that the 
population in that place is currently less than 100. Well, while 
surfing the web, using google, I found something very interesting 
about this rancho. On the Lagos de Moreno official website, I 
discovered