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Joseph,

 

I guess what I meant is that an African slave, to me, was one like the ancestors of the African-Americans and Negroes of Brazil.  In facial features and body type they look to me like the

Hello Steve,

I don't think I would be able to explain it better than one of those 
ready made tutorials available online.

Take a look at a couple of links:

http://www.dnaheritage.com/tutorial1.asp (follow the series)
http://www.familytreedna.com/dna101.html

As you know, the Y chromosome has segments of genetic material that 
pass practically unchanged from father to son, except in those rare 
cases where a mutation occurs.  The numbers you ask about represent a 
count of the so called Short Tandem Repeats or STRs at specific 
locations in the DNA molecule.  When a mutation happens the count of 
STRs can increase or decrease usually by one count.  These mutations 
tend to accumulate over generations at varying rates which can help to 
calculate or approximate the "genetic distance" between two related 
persons who share a common ancestor. I don't know if I'm being clear 
enough so I'll stop here!  Anyway, read some of those documents online 
and then come back to share your thoughts

Hello,

I run the New Mexico DNA Project, the issue about
African and Moorish women is this:

Haplogroup L and all sub-haplogroups:  African Black

Haplogroup Ub6: Moorish/Berber (North African) this is
genetic code that is equivalent to E3b on the Y-DNA.

If your haplogroup L your ancient fore-mother was
Black African, if your haplogroup Ub6 your ancient
fore-mother was Moorish/Berber.

Saludos,
Angel 
New Mexico DNA Project
Project Administrator



		
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After all this conversation, I got really interested about submitting 
my DNA as well as my Tapia DNA through an uncle. Another member and 
possible primo (Angel Cervantes) encouraged me to do it in the past. 
Well, in the next couple months I will probably get several samples 
from different family lines. (As soon as I get the cash for it)

I just have a question, maybe I just need to read Gary Felix's website 
more carefully. Is there a table or something that explains what do 
all those numbers on the tables mean? Also, what is the difference 
between 12, 25 and 37 marker? What does it mean?

Steve.

I've heard "taruga" and "tarada" growing up too.  "Tonta" is another 
synonym.  I have to admit I call my own kids some of those names from 
time to time. Just trying to keep the tradition going...  :)

I wonder if it's because our culture hasn't gotten on the politically 
correct bandwagon? I thought about that when President Fox made that 
statement about our gente taking jobs "that even Blacks won't take". 
The Mexican response to the American one was that it wasn't meant to 
offend. Understanding our cultura the way I understand it I knew that 
to be true. However, Fox was criticized because; as some pointed out, 
he was educated here in the States and should've known better.

Maria

p.s. Another word that I remember hearing is "vaquetón".  This one 
means rascal or something along those lines.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in "como eres 
tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost like "como eres

Joseph,

You are probably right.  It must be the 12 marker.  I was speaking 
off the top of my head and probably got it wrong. He did it on his 
own, before Gary Felix had anything posted about it on his website.

Well, I hesitate putting out there in a public website without 
getting his permission. I thought it would be okay to post it here 
because this is a smaller, more private group. Maybe I'll mention it 
to him again.

He might be more apt to posting it if Gary invites him to join. It 
won't be his pesky sister telling him what to do. ;)

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> 
> readysetgo95814 wrote:
> 
> >I've been following the discussion on the DNA testing with much 
> >interest. My brother did the 9 marker test, but did not post his 
> >results on Gary Felix's page.
> >
> did he do it thru the Felix study or just on his own? I haven't 
heard of 
> the 9 marker test. Was this awhile back? I thought that 12 was 
minimum, 
> but

readysetgo95814 wrote:

I've been following the discussion on the DNA testing with much
interest. My brother did the 9 marker test, but did not post his
results on Gary Felix's page.

did he do it thru the Felix study or just on his own? I haven't heard of
the 9 marker test. Was this awhile back? I thought that 12 was minimum,
but probably my lack of knowledge is showing through.

I did mention it to him, but either he's
not interested or it just slipped his mind. I have a copy of the
results and would be interested in posting the results on this site if
Joseph decides to collect that data.

Well I think it would be better to let Gary Felix know about it and post
it there. I would be willing to post the results in the files area but
truthfully they would be there only to encourage other members to
consider doing their own DNA study. On Gary Felix's site he could guide
you and help with some understanding and other readings to get up to
speed on the subject if you

My wife is from Los Altos, Jalisco, and she uses both
words when she is mad.

Alberto.

--- John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...> wrote:

> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in
> "como eres tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost
> like "como eres menso".  Tarugo, tarado, and menso
> are used in about the same context.
> I know, I've been called all three at different
> times!
> 
> John 
> 
> 1gnzlz@...
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: latina1955@... 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling
> 
> 
>   "Tarayata" sounds linked to "taragua" which I was
> often called because I was considered lazy when I
> was younger - I simply didn't enjoy doing the
> household chores while my brothers were out playing
> :).  Perhaps the "tara" portion is the relationship
> in a similar base language, which be in this area of
> discussion!
> 
>   Esperanza
> 
> 
>
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