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Subject: Hispanic Heritage Project Press Release

Organized in Escondido, California some fourteen years ago, the Hispanic Heritage Project helped archives that housed Hispanic colonial documents.Income was at first generated from proceeds earned by taking care of and selling produce from a city-owned avocado and orange grove. Later when the old grove could no longer provide the funds needed they sought donations and later launched their second enterprise, selling Hispanic books online.

As activities in Mexico grew so did the need of additional funds.We are now imaging the colonial documents of the Spanish colony known as New Spain.This is the area now known as the Caribbean, Southwestern United States, Mexico, part of Guatemala, and the Philippines.This has become a mammoth project requiring a very large and growing budget.

Necessity has led us to our latest and newest undertaking for raising funds, the sale of fine art. A modest donation of art has made this possible.Now exhibited in a hallway of the ArtHatch Gallery in Escondido is a display of art works entitled, “miarte.”We have received donations from artists, art dealers, and private collectors representing different art styles and media.For those who live in the Escondido area you can view our collection in the section called “miarte” and for those not in our area you may find us online at http://miarte.info

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Ancestry DNA Kits are on sale $30.00 off until tomorrow, Sunday 11/27/2016.

I cannot locate the record for the marriage of Juan Antonio Ruiz and Maria Josefa Ysaguirre. It was 2 September 1798 in Rio Verde, San Luis Potosi. There is 1 record for that date, but it is not for these two. I am sure it is in this book (709241) somewhere, but I can't find it. Any help will be apprectiated! Here is the record for the date: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGGQ-S6P?i=444&cc=1860864

Esteemed genealogist Tony Campos passed away today, November 18, 2016. His primary genealogical focus was in the State of Michoacan. In the 1980s Tony, together with Ophelia Marquez, Mimi Lozano and Raul Guerra, co-founded the Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research. This genealogical organization published the SHHAR Research Journals and Somos Primos Newsletters. We will always be grateful for his wonderful contributions.

Mary Lou Montagna

The number of people researching their roots in Mexico is ever growing. What I wonder is, do people who were born in Mexico and still live there have any interest in genealogy. On another forum, I read a post by a member who voiced his disappointment that there doesn't appear to be any genealogy interest and that it would be great if someone cared enough even for something like Find a Grave in the US. I responded that maybe they are so close to their past and ancestors that it isn't that important or resources are easily accessed which did not help this person's attitude at all. What are you thoughts?

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

On this baptism for Lorenso de esqueda could someone tell me what it says
after fueron sus padrinos Salvador Ruiz de Esparza:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QQ9-1DP

Danny C. Alonso

The FamilyTreeDNA 2016 Winter Holiday sale has started. They are giving coupons out that can be used on top of the discounted prices reducing the price of the tests even more. The coupons can be shared and once someone uses the coupon you get another coupon that is a better deal. If you do not plan on using the coupon please share the coupon code so other people can take advantage of it.

If you have changed your email address you need to login to the site to see the coupon code. If you lost you login info you can contact FTDNA to have your password reset.

I have wondered at the "end of the line" origins of m Family surname, (ORNELAS) and am now down to about 5 serious contenders, all in the Galician region (Northern Spain/Portugal), and talking to several people who are absolutely certain that THEIR research and findings are accurate. We have Fornelas,(spain) Hornelas, Ornelas, and a few others with common phonetics from the region.

Realizing, that for a lot of us, some of our surnames come from a mother culture that is Galician, and regional, rather than strictly nationally Spanish or Portuguese, I began to wonder when the two languages formally separated, and found this interesting article.
https://www.quora.com/At-what-point-did-Portuguese-and-Spanish-become-d…

I am interested in what some of the older and more experience researchers here think, and looking to learn more.

Thanks.
Piero

I have messaged others, but either I have had something go wrong with my browser, or there is not a simple inbox for messages between members.
Thanks.

P.S. is anyone else getting this PHP error screen like I am? I get something similar to it on every NR page i visit.
"Creating default object from empty value in PHP?:
(See Screenshot)
PO

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:19 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos November 2016 (lq1)

Somos Primos, November 2016 Click here: Somos Primos http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2016/spnov16/spnov16.htm

Dear Friends and Family:

November 1-2 are observed as Dias de Los Muertos , honoring the memories of our loved ones.
and November 11th is Veteran's Day, set aside to honor our Veterans.

Words can not express my gratitude to those men and women who dedicate
their lives to protecting our country. As I view the brutality and
devastation caused by Islamic inspired wars, I realize that we can never repay our veterans for the horrors forever etched in their memories. Please pray with me that our in-coming government will attempt to provide for all the needs of our Veterans, and we will fulfill our obligations to them will be set in place.

I give thanks for being born in the United States of Mexican Heritage with a proud history of 500 years of familia contributions to the development of the Americas.
I give thanks for the technological and scientific developments which have provided the means for me to learn of my roots and appreciate mis antipasados, for their sacrifices and accomplishments.
I give thanks for the Christian foundations of our nation, and our inspired Constitution.
I give thanks for our varied/ diverse educational systems, giving all opportunities to improve their lives.
I give thanks for family and friend who strengthen and support me.
I give thanks to you, readers of Somos Primos, who encourage my efforts and share information.

Let us all pray that the Lord will have His Hand on the outcome of the election.
God bless America that it will continue to be a stabilizing force in the world.

Mimi

TABLE OF CONTENTS, November 2016

UNITED STATES
ACLU Outrage: A Mountaintop Christian Victory Over the ACLU Chapman University’s third annual Survey of American Fears Pew Research Center Report: Individual income tax statistics, by income group Smithsonian Latino Center 2015 Annual Report

Mexican “Repatriation” of the 1930s: 45 Years of Advocacy by M.
Guadalupe Espinoza
Open Letter of Concern to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Administrators, Voters, The NFL, Sportswriters and the General Public from Dr. Mario Longoria

Don Eleuterio Escobar, Seed planted in 1915 for Liga Pro-Defensa Escolar / School Improvement League by Gilberto Quezada Domingo E. Pena, Memories by daughter, Rose Everett Alonso S. Perales, Civil rights lawyer-fighter for Mexican Americans by Gilberto Quezada "El Mexico Americano y la Politica del Sur de Texas" Lic. Alonso S.
Perales, Octubre 1931

7th annual Digital Media & Learning Conference at UCI, Digital Dreamers by Mimi Ko Cruz Convention of States held September 26th Defaced dollar bill should be refused Spanish language is the oldest non Indian language spoken of the United States

HERITAGE PROJECTS
Horses & Heroes by Robin Collins
CAREM / El Camino Real de las Californias as World Heritage Site Update Latinos in Heritage Conservation: Reunion 2016, November 18-19 Houston, Texas America's Most Endangered Historic Places

HISTORIC TIDBITS
Photo: Policemen inspect a 'lumber truck' during prohibition (1926) Los Esclavos Olvidados de America, Los Irlandeses
Irish: The Forgotten White Slaves

HISPANIC LEADERS
Regardless of their faith, terminal patients find comfort with Sisters of the Servants of Mary

AMERICAN PATRIOTS
Photo: US soldier offering his hand to a woman leaving a cave
Unreal: Pentagon Demands Soldiers Repay Bonuses WWII Spitfire Pilot

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
Spanish and Mexican Land Grants by Joe Perez Who was the “Protector and Defender of U.S. independence"? by José Antonio López Judge Edward F. Butler, 37th TX Hispanic Genealogical & Historical Conference

SURNAMES
IX Reunion Internacional de los Elizondo Apellido Pastor Apellido Bonis

DNA
Genes and Mestizos by Carlos López Beltrán Genetic history of the Iberian Peninsula

FAMILY HISTORY
Twile Integrates with FamilySearch

EDUCATION
Educators fight textbook that vilifies Mexican Americans by Sabrina Holcomb Pórtate Bienwritten by Sylvia Castañeda Reaching their STEM potential by Nina Agrawal

CULTURE
Sacred Image Cast Through Several Lenses by Antonie Boessenkool Conjunto & Orquesta: Music and Tejano Identity: "What Are We?
Historia de 'Adelita' la personaje del famoso corrido.

BOOKS AND PRINT MEDIA
The International Latino Book Awards
The 2016 NAHP Convention, Allen, Texas, October 19-22, Jose Marti Publishing Awards Recognizing Rudolfo Anaya, the Godfather of Chicano Letters by Rigoberto Gonzalez Irma's Story Irma's Story, American by Birth Hispanic by Choice by Peter B . Gawenda Cuando Éramos Invencibles por Jesús A. Rojo Pinilla White Cargo by Don Jordan and Michael Walsh Mujeres de la Edad Media: actividades políticas, socioeconómicas y culturales
co-authors: Maira del Carmen Garcia Herrero y Cristina Perez Galan La Cruzada Océano José Javier Esparaza

ORANGE COUNTY, CA
November 2: Dia De Los Muertos, Segerstrom Center for the Arts November 5: 2016 Orange County Hispanic Women of the Year November 12: Linda Serna, How to dispel myths & solve genealogy Research Mysteries in November 12: El Premio Agustin Lara, Bowers Museum, Santa Ana OC Hispanic Bar Assn's Wallace (Wally) R. Davis Memorial Scholarship, Nov 18 Deadline Santa Ana library adapts to serve immigrant families, youth, by Heather Folmar Dr. Jose F. Moreno, Anaheim City Council District 3

LOS ANGELES COUNTY
Advocate hopes to change lives of juvenile hall detainees through library by Zoila Gallegos Long Road to New Start, once homeless teen set to attend UC Davis by Joy Resmovits Quetzalcoatl Mural Project to Undergo Restoration Cast your vote today for LA's first historic pedestrian pathway

CALIFORNIA
Bringing Luz written by Sylvia Castañeda Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo y El Descubrimiento de California La Conquista De California, General Historia de los Estados Unidos

NORTHWESTERN, US
Pacífico Norte, 1775-1795
Explorer North, Explorer's Guide to the North: Feature articles by Dr.
Arsenio Rey Tejerina

Family History Library Begins Construction of New Discovery Center

SOUTHWESTERN, US
Storm's Edge: Descriptive Bibliography, Revolutionary Era, Old Southwest Borderlands & Beyond by Bob England

TEXAS
Nov. 11-13: National 41st Anniversary Meeting: Los Granaderos y Damas de Galvez Blasones y Apellidos: 37th Texas State Hispanic Genealogical Historical Conference Remembering the Lozano Home by Daisy Wanda Garcia DRT Library Collection Has a New Home AARP Rudi Rodriguez, Hispanic Heritage Profile Voters overwhelmingly approve annexation Emerald Green Flag of the First Texas Republic A San Antonio landmark in danger Los tres, Joseph de Urrutia by John Inclan

MIDDLE AMERICA
The Learning Years 1945-1950, Kansas: No 3 "That is a Blue Tick Hound"
by Rudy Padilla

EAST COAST
Spain’s Gift to Catholic New York by Miguel Hernandez Esteban Gómez, Exploración De Toda La Costa Este The Founding of the Castillo de San Marcos Ponce de León desembarca en La Florida Lucas Vázquez De Ayllón, Fundación Del Primer Asentamiento Español en Norteamérica

AFRICAN-AMERICAN
October 24th, 1952 Austin African-American Colleges Merge Rosenwald Schools Enews, October, 2016

INDIGENOUS
October 7th, 1759 - Indians defeat Spanish force on Red River
1868 Native American viewing newly completed transcontinental railroad Regarding the location of Aztlan by Ray Padilla

SEPHARDIC
Sephardic Jewish Brotherhood of America
American Sephardi Federation
We . . . Spanish Jews, poem by Max Storm

ARCHAEOLOGY
Prehistoria Novo Hispano/the location of Aztlan by Alfonso Rivas Salmón.

MEXICO
La ceremonia y fotos del 170 Aniversario de la Batalla de Monterrey de
1846
La Portada del Libro XVII de Bautismos, Parroquia del Real de San Josè del Parral Saints and Heros: Jose Sanchez del Rio, Hero for Christ the King by Elias Rubio Constantino Fidencio: Hermanos del Heroico Colegio Militar

Tres fotografías del año de 1924 tomadas por el Sr. A.V. Carmona, Saltillo, Coah.
Arts of Colonial Mexico by Richard Perry Description of and partial census of part of Coahuila Colegio Civil Centro Cultural Universitario, 19 de Septiembre

CARIBBEAN REGION
Loreta Janeta Velazquez, Disguised as Confederate Soldier Lieutenant Harry T Buford

CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
Mayan artifacts are sent home by Ruben Vives ¿Por qué algunos países de América Latina usan el 'vos' en vez del 'tú'?
por Analia Llorente

OCEANIC PACIFIC
Hispanidad: España tuvo la primera mujer Almirante de la historia La expedición de Loaysa, de Andrés de Urdaneta,de Villalobos, de Legazpi

PHILIPPINES
Philippines rated by the HSBC as 5 Top Picks by Expatriates by Eddie AAA Calderon, Ph.D.
La historia de las expediciones salidas de Nueva España a la colonización de las Filipinas.

SPAIN
Los mayores descubridores del mundo
La Madre Patria Hispana
España no puede permitir que siga intacta una leyenda negra de 500 años La Casa de la Contratación y su relevancia en el contexto la Carrera de Indias.

INTERNATIONAL
Brigitte Gabriel Officially Knighted
A Warning from Dick Smith, Australia
Refugees? Or an Occupation Army? by Maria Polizoidou The Ticking Time Bomb of Islamization by Yves Mamou

I am trying to find the parents of Juan de Anda, and to determine if he is part of the Anda Altamirano family.

Juan married Maria Ortega Espinosa on 28 Jul 1658, in Lagos de Moreno, the record gives her parents, but not his. Of their six children, Juana de Anda married Nicolas Macias Valadez in Lagos de Moreno on 16 Sep 1680.

Any help would be appreciated.

George Fulton

I truly need help find my 8th generation grandparents Juan Antonio Thorres de Escobar married to Getrudis Codero. They were from San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete, Zacatecas Mexico.

I also need to find Ysidro Placencia married to Gertrudis Rodriguez around 1712.

Mil gracias

Olga Placencia Torres

Hi! Are there any resources that cover the population and history of Sayula, Jalisco, in the 1800s? Does anyone know who I would contact in Sayula that might know that kind of information? Thank you!

Researching Aceves, Lopez, Cuevas, Villalbaso, Velasco, Luna, Lugo ...

I just found out that the book "Ameca, Protofundacion Mexicana" by Jesus Amaya Topete is now available to view on Google books. It has lots of information on the founding families in the Ameca valley. I am so glad I'm able to read it online, especially because it contains lots of information about a branch in my family tree, the Enriquez Topete. Here's the link:

https://books.google.com/books?id=8IpnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA256&lpg=PA256&dq=en…

Saludos,

Steve in NC

I tire of the right wing screed that is Somos Primos.

But first, let's talk about terrorism. It's not like the Muslims have a
corner on this market. Most terrorism in the USA is by white Christian
males. Shall we talk about the atrocities that our own soldiers have
committed? In the ME, in Vietnam? Here's the legacy of our involvement
in Vietnam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj72E8Xr_xw Look at those
children and tell me we have no blood on our hands.

As Christ himself said, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the
first to throw a stone."

Let's revisit 2000 years of Christian history and come up with examples
of Christians doing horrific things. I'm sure we could fill volumes.

lg

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> From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:19 PM
> To: mimilozano@aol.com
> Subject: Somos Primos November 2016 (lq1)
>
> Somos Primos, November 2016 Click here: Somos Primos http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2016/spnov16/spnov16.htm
>
> Dear Friends and Family:
>
> November 1-2 are observed as Dias de Los Muertos , honoring the memories of our loved ones.
> and November 11th is Veteran's Day, set aside to honor our Veterans.
>
> Words can not express my gratitude to those men and women who dedicate
> their lives to protecting our country. As I view the brutality and
> devastation caused by Islamic inspired wars, I realize that we can never repay our veterans for the horrors forever etched in their memories. Please pray with me that our in-coming government will attempt to provide for all the needs of our Veterans, and we will fulfill our obligations to them will be set in place.
>
> I give thanks for being born in the United States of Mexican Heritage with a proud history of 500 years of familia contributions to the development of the Americas.
> I give thanks for the technological and scientific developments which have provided the means for me to learn of my roots and appreciate mis antipasados, for their sacrifices and accomplishments.
> I give thanks for the Christian foundations of our nation, and our inspired Constitution.
> I give thanks for our varied/ diverse educational systems, giving all opportunities to improve their lives.
> I give thanks for family and friend who strengthen and support me.
> I give thanks to you, readers of Somos Primos, who encourage my efforts and share information.
>
> Let us all pray that the Lord will have His Hand on the outcome of the election.
> God bless America that it will continue to be a stabilizing force in the world.
>
> Mimi
>
> TABLE OF CONTENTS, November 2016
>
> UNITED STATES
> ACLU Outrage: A Mountaintop Christian Victory Over the ACLU Chapman University's third annual Survey of American Fears Pew Research Center Report: Individual income tax statistics, by income group Smithsonian Latino Center 2015 Annual Report
>
> Mexican "Repatriation" of the 1930s: 45 Years of Advocacy by M.
> Guadalupe Espinoza
> Open Letter of Concern to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Administrators, Voters, The NFL, Sportswriters and the General Public from Dr. Mario Longoria
>
> Don Eleuterio Escobar, Seed planted in 1915 for Liga Pro-Defensa Escolar / School Improvement League by Gilberto Quezada Domingo E. Pena, Memories by daughter, Rose Everett Alonso S. Perales, Civil rights lawyer-fighter for Mexican Americans by Gilberto Quezada "El Mexico Americano y la Politica del Sur de Texas" Lic. Alonso S.
> Perales, Octubre 1931
>
> 7th annual Digital Media & Learning Conference at UCI, Digital Dreamers by Mimi Ko Cruz Convention of States held September 26th Defaced dollar bill should be refused Spanish language is the oldest non Indian language spoken of the United States
>
> HERITAGE PROJECTS
> Horses & Heroes by Robin Collins
> CAREM / El Camino Real de las Californias as World Heritage Site Update Latinos in Heritage Conservation: Reunion 2016, November 18-19 Houston, Texas America's Most Endangered Historic Places
>
> HISTORIC TIDBITS
> Photo: Policemen inspect a 'lumber truck' during prohibition (1926) Los Esclavos Olvidados de America, Los Irlandeses
> Irish: The Forgotten White Slaves
>
> HISPANIC LEADERS
> Regardless of their faith, terminal patients find comfort with Sisters of the Servants of Mary
>
> AMERICAN PATRIOTS
> Photo: US soldier offering his hand to a woman leaving a cave
> Unreal: Pentagon Demands Soldiers Repay Bonuses WWII Spitfire Pilot
>
> EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
> Spanish and Mexican Land Grants by Joe Perez Who was the "Protector and Defender of U.S. independence"? by José Antonio López Judge Edward F. Butler, 37th TX Hispanic Genealogical & Historical Conference
>
> SURNAMES
> IX Reunion Internacional de los Elizondo Apellido Pastor Apellido Bonis
>
> DNA
> Genes and Mestizos by Carlos López Beltrán Genetic history of the Iberian Peninsula
>
> FAMILY HISTORY
> Twile Integrates with FamilySearch
>
> EDUCATION
> Educators fight textbook that vilifies Mexican Americans by Sabrina Holcomb Pórtate Bienwritten by Sylvia Castañeda Reaching their STEM potential by Nina Agrawal
>
> CULTURE
> Sacred Image Cast Through Several Lenses by Antonie Boessenkool Conjunto & Orquesta: Music and Tejano Identity: "What Are We?
> Historia de 'Adelita' la personaje del famoso corrido.
>
> BOOKS AND PRINT MEDIA
> The International Latino Book Awards
> The 2016 NAHP Convention, Allen, Texas, October 19-22, Jose Marti Publishing Awards Recognizing Rudolfo Anaya, the Godfather of Chicano Letters by Rigoberto Gonzalez Irma's Story Irma's Story, American by Birth Hispanic by Choice by Peter B . Gawenda Cuando Éramos Invencibles por Jesús A. Rojo Pinilla White Cargo by Don Jordan and Michael Walsh Mujeres de la Edad Media: actividades políticas, socioeconómicas y culturales
> co-authors: Maira del Carmen Garcia Herrero y Cristina Perez Galan La Cruzada Océano José Javier Esparaza
>
> ORANGE COUNTY, CA
> November 2: Dia De Los Muertos, Segerstrom Center for the Arts November 5: 2016 Orange County Hispanic Women of the Year November 12: Linda Serna, How to dispel myths & solve genealogy Research Mysteries in November 12: El Premio Agustin Lara, Bowers Museum, Santa Ana OC Hispanic Bar Assn's Wallace (Wally) R. Davis Memorial Scholarship, Nov 18 Deadline Santa Ana library adapts to serve immigrant families, youth, by Heather Folmar Dr. Jose F. Moreno, Anaheim City Council District 3
>
> LOS ANGELES COUNTY
> Advocate hopes to change lives of juvenile hall detainees through library by Zoila Gallegos Long Road to New Start, once homeless teen set to attend UC Davis by Joy Resmovits Quetzalcoatl Mural Project to Undergo Restoration Cast your vote today for LA's first historic pedestrian pathway
>
> CALIFORNIA
> Bringing Luz written by Sylvia Castañeda Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo y El Descubrimiento de California La Conquista De California, General Historia de los Estados Unidos
>
> NORTHWESTERN, US
> Pacífico Norte, 1775-1795
> Explorer North, Explorer's Guide to the North: Feature articles by Dr.
> Arsenio Rey Tejerina
>
> Family History Library Begins Construction of New Discovery Center
>
> SOUTHWESTERN, US
> Storm's Edge: Descriptive Bibliography, Revolutionary Era, Old Southwest Borderlands & Beyond by Bob England
>
> TEXAS
> Nov. 11-13: National 41st Anniversary Meeting: Los Granaderos y Damas de Galvez Blasones y Apellidos: 37th Texas State Hispanic Genealogical Historical Conference Remembering the Lozano Home by Daisy Wanda Garcia DRT Library Collection Has a New Home AARP Rudi Rodriguez, Hispanic Heritage Profile Voters overwhelmingly approve annexation Emerald Green Flag of the First Texas Republic A San Antonio landmark in danger Los tres, Joseph de Urrutia by John Inclan
>
> MIDDLE AMERICA
> The Learning Years 1945-1950, Kansas: No 3 "That is a Blue Tick Hound"
> by Rudy Padilla
>
> EAST COAST
> Spain's Gift to Catholic New York by Miguel Hernandez Esteban Gómez, Exploración De Toda La Costa Este The Founding of the Castillo de San Marcos Ponce de León desembarca en La Florida Lucas Vázquez De Ayllón, Fundación Del Primer Asentamiento Español en Norteamérica
>
> AFRICAN-AMERICAN
> October 24th, 1952 Austin African-American Colleges Merge Rosenwald Schools Enews, October, 2016
>
> INDIGENOUS
> October 7th, 1759 - Indians defeat Spanish force on Red River
> 1868 Native American viewing newly completed transcontinental railroad Regarding the location of Aztlan by Ray Padilla
>
> SEPHARDIC
> Sephardic Jewish Brotherhood of America
> American Sephardi Federation
> We . . . Spanish Jews, poem by Max Storm
>
> ARCHAEOLOGY
> Prehistoria Novo Hispano/the location of Aztlan by Alfonso Rivas Salmón.
>
> MEXICO
> La ceremonia y fotos del 170 Aniversario de la Batalla de Monterrey de
> 1846
> La Portada del Libro XVII de Bautismos, Parroquia del Real de San Josè del Parral Saints and Heros: Jose Sanchez del Rio, Hero for Christ the King by Elias Rubio Constantino Fidencio: Hermanos del Heroico Colegio Militar
>
> Tres fotografías del año de 1924 tomadas por el Sr. A.V. Carmona, Saltillo, Coah.
> Arts of Colonial Mexico by Richard Perry Description of and partial census of part of Coahuila Colegio Civil Centro Cultural Universitario, 19 de Septiembre
>
> CARIBBEAN REGION
> Loreta Janeta Velazquez, Disguised as Confederate Soldier Lieutenant Harry T Buford
>
> CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
> Mayan artifacts are sent home by Ruben Vives ¿Por qué algunos países de América Latina usan el 'vos' en vez del 'tú'?
> por Analia Llorente
>
> OCEANIC PACIFIC
> Hispanidad: España tuvo la primera mujer Almirante de la historia La expedición de Loaysa, de Andrés de Urdaneta,de Villalobos, de Legazpi
>
> PHILIPPINES
> Philippines rated by the HSBC as 5 Top Picks by Expatriates by Eddie AAA Calderon, Ph.D.
> La historia de las expediciones salidas de Nueva España a la colonización de las Filipinas.
>
> SPAIN
> Los mayores descubridores del mundo
> La Madre Patria Hispana
> España no puede permitir que siga intacta una leyenda negra de 500 años La Casa de la Contratación y su relevancia en el contexto la Carrera de Indias.
>
> INTERNATIONAL
> Brigitte Gabriel Officially Knighted
> A Warning from Dick Smith, Australia
> Refugees? Or an Occupation Army? by Maria Polizoidou The Ticking Time Bomb of Islamization by Yves Mamou
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>

I just came across the term "Ambrotype" and it was an old way of taking photographs on glass.

It is amazing how they looked back then in the mid 1800's. I hope to find some of people from our town in Mexico.

Hello, I'm wondering if someone can help me read this marriage record. I am not yet able to read this type of writing well, especially the abbreviations. What I'm particularly interested in are these: On the third line between Lopez and de este Pueblo; On the fourth line what is his mother's name? Also, what are the words between Ana Luisa Diaz and hija. Also, in the column on the left, what does the bottom line say? Thank you!

Babette

buenas tardes a todos nuestros amigos compañeros de este foro
de investigación genealógica
alguien a podido encontrar alguna pista sobre el linaje de
Petronila de Moctezuma esposa de Martin navarro de gabai ?
o alguien sabe noticia sobre el libro de de don Guillermo Tovar de teresa
donde menciona el documento donde se comprueba el linaje de Petronila con el emperador Moctezuma?
esperemos muy pronto encontrar noticias sobre su linaje
saludos a todos
que tengan un excelente día

I'm having trouble understanding a Civil Registration of a birth. This record is from Guanajuato, Mexico. The troublesome phrase regarding the father of the child who has come in to register the birth: casado cannonicamente y soltero segun la ley and the daughter is listed as , hija natural, and the mother is not named. I think I read the record correctly. In this child's baptism record she is listed as the legitimate child of the named parents. This couple had 2 earlier children, baptised in the same church and listed as legitimate children. Neither of the other two children's births were registered with the State.
Thank you, Gloria

Hello all.
Firstly, I want to thank those that have helped, and are helping me trace my ancestry, and who have given me many tips.

I wanted to ask: Since coming here, and to the Nueva Galicia Society and Ancestrydna.com, I have noticed some really heated and also hostile behavior between people, and heard names called, and seen some less than what I had assumed was professional behavior. Questions:

1: If one person does some research, and another person references or uses it directly is there a reason that would create bad blood?

2: I have heard researchers call one another "Plagiarists". This would suggest ownership of research. I would have thought that sharing research about a person's family line, would be a good thing. Am I wrong? are there negative things that can comer from this?

I have seen in several forums, people ignore pleas for help, and assistance, and then harshly criticize the person who was asking for help, railing against them for some error in their research or methodology.

Just wondering what the social lay of the land is here, and wondering what is going on with all the heated words, and hard feelings. I really didn't expect that.

Thanks for your time and patience.

Piero
Rookie researcher.

One of the biggest questions that my family has always had about our family that came from Mexico is possibly a question that will never be answered. My great-grandmother Pascuala Aceves, and two of her siblings, Maria Romula Aceves and Bernardo (Fernando) Aceves, all left Mexico and went to California by early 1877. We believe that either they all came together, or Maria Romula came first and they followed. Pascuala’s children (our grandmothers and their siblings), are the ones that passed on the story. We heard that Pascuala and Fernando had gone to mass, and when they returned they learned that their mother, Maria Juana Lopez Cuebas had been killed by banditos. She was a shopkeeper and a seamstress. We heard that Pascuala and Fernando left the area shortly after that.
We have been unable to find any death records for Maria Juana Lopez Cuebas, and this is what we would most like to find.
Manuel Asebes was Maria Juana’s husband and the father of her children. They were married in Sayula, and all the children were born in Sayula.
The story says that Maria Juana left Manuel because he failed to support the children. She moved, but we don’t know where to. The family always said she was from Guadalajara.
The story said she then married an alcalde, but we don’t have a name.
The children were: Agustina, b 1843, married a German soldier. Her children were born in Mexico City so perhaps they all went there; Maria Clara, b 1845, died at about 18. No death record found; Atilano, b 1847, died young. No death record found; Jose Eucebio, b 1850. Have no idea about him; Maria Romula, b 1852, married a Frenchman and went to California; Pascuala, b 1854, married an Englishman and went to California; Bernardo (Fernando), b 1856. Went to California. Heard that he left San Francisco after the 1906 earthquake and went back to Mexico. I have found no information either way.
If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. Again, what we most want to know is if the story of Maria Juana Lopez Cuebas is true.
Thank you,
Rayna Babette Allen

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2016-10-25 20:50 GMT+02:00 :

> You are quite lucky to have someone in the family who saved all those
> wonderful items of your families past. I noticed the red miners hats. I
> love
> those kinds of pictures. No one in my family really put things together of
> their families and it has been difficult but rewarding to get a picture of
> my
> great grandmother and her shawl still in its box only because I asked the
> person who inherited her house while no one had cared to find out in the
> family. If you read some of the history of the European Royalty who
> intermarried so much that it created deformities, crazy (Juana la Loca) and
> sterility among other stuff. Back to your family the Contreras, There are
> many players now many of them with dispensas that has help put a tighter
> timeframe. L5B5-95V is the locator on www.familysearch.com for Jose
> Christobal de Contreras, it can be search by ID or Name added to your
> family
> already on Familysearch. I added what was in the dispensas put it needs
> your
> familiarity to put all together. I have a theory of the aguilera vs.
> Contreras, I believe she had the baby before they married. I say this only
> because they seem to use the name Aguilera forward while they don't mention
> Aguilera nor refer to her as married only that Maria Contreras is mother. ​
>

[Nuestros Ranchos] Contreras y Briseno

1. About Ysabel Garcia de Contreras
1.1 It is possible that Garcia was used as a second given name, not as
first surname.
Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garc%C3%ADa_(surname)
"García was a very common first name in early medieval Spain."
1.2 I found an example in 'FamilySearch' web page
Father: Jn. Garzia De Contreras
Mother: Elena Franca
Son: Jn. Contreras
(folow this link)
1.3 Then, if the theory is true, Xtobal de Contreras did not inherit the
given name Garcia

2. Why 'Xtobal de Contreras' did not take his father surname?

2.1 It could be because he was an illegitimate child, but you say that
'Ysabel Garcia
De Contreras has a *legitimate* son ...' Why are you so sure of that?

2.2 In my experience, in the records of baptism no surnames are assigned
to the child. Instead the priest uses the phrase "I baptized a child who
was born x days ago and I named it Xtobal. He (She) is legitimate son of
[parent's names and surnames]". If you are lucky, the record you are
looking at has the names and surnames of the grandparents.

2.3 Before 1800, most people only used one surname, which was usually the
father's surname, although there were exceptions where some people decided
to use the mother's surname, or in very minority, other family's surname.

2.4 From the nineteenth century in Spain and Spanish America it was
imposed, first as use and later as standard in various administrative,
legal, military fields, among others, the double surname.

2.5 Today, the official rule in Mexico is father's first surname +mother's
first surname.

Best regards

2016-10-22 17:01 GMT-05:00 :

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> I found a record of a marriage in Mascota in the year of 1758. This is a
> marriage record of Gertrudis De Contreras and Pedro. If I'm reading this
> right,they have 4th grade of consanguinity. Apparently it goes like this:
> There are two legitimate sisters of the same parents: Maria De Contreras
> and
> Ysabel Garcia De Contreras. Maria has a daughter named Rosa Maria De
> Robles.
> Rosa has a son name Antonio Briseno who has a son named Pedro Briseno, who
> is
> marrying Gertrudis de Contreras. Ysabel Garcia De Contreras has a
> legitimate
> son named Xptobal De Contreras, my oldest ancestor. Xptobal has a son named
> Fausto who has a daughter name Gertrudis. I'm certain this Xptobal De
> Contreras is the one married to Catarina Sanchez and fathered Miguel,
> Pedro,
> and my ancestor, Xptobal De Contreras Sanchez. The timeline would fit. My
> only question is why did he inherit the Contreras name from his mother? Is
> it
> possible his father's name is also Contreras? So he'd be Cristobal De
> Contreras y Contreras? lol. Also she has the name Garcia before Contreras.
> Soo many questions.
>
>
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> Sounds like them! There are just a few questions I have but if you can
> provide the Dispensa, my questions can be better worded. There was a thread
> before about how the people in Nueva Galicia (Mexico) would name their
> children. I Believe Ricci said something recently, but anyway, from my
> experience and deduction not proven, Surnames of both parents are used to
> their convenience. When looking for a person it is best to look under both
> names. Sometimes, because the priest did not give a father the last name so
> they went by the mother's surname (this happen most times if one of the
> parents was an Indian, Mestiso and even a Espanol and many times for women
> unless it was a very well connected family I read somewhere that a last
> name
> of the most prestigious surname was used as a calling card, a last name of
> the mother to preserve the prestigious family name and I'm sure the
> membership has many more reasons to add. In working backwards in time, we
> may
> not think someone with a certain name is part of the family because it is
> totally different from the rest. The names in the 1400 to 1600 had many
> compounded names usually a family name with the place they originated in
> Spain. With compounded names part of the name would be used if the family
> they married into was also a influential name such as Quijas de Escalante,
> Sifuentes de Aleman, Ruis de Esparsa, Fernandez de Palos, Gomes de
> Hermosillo
> and etc. So in the 1900 to 1700 you find one relative with Quijas and
> another
> with Escalante, one with ruis and another with esparsa etc. So confusing.
> By
> the way I am a Rodriguez Rdz and I once worked with 2 other individuals who
> were lopez lopez and Garcia Garcia we sure confused alot of people that
> day.
> The Garcia before Contreras is a mystery that happens often. many threads
> have this same question. Ex: There was a Francisca Gabadi who was godmother
> to a Francisca Tiscareno so Francisca becaame Francisca Gabadi Tiscareno
> but
> that whole name has shown up in many different interpretations. Then there
> is
> a relative who changed her name from one name to Ruiz de Villasenor. Primo
> Manny from this membership figured that out but that in itself is a Novel.
> Yet another, had a surname along with the regular name while all the other
> children did not. Try reading the 10 volume set available from a public
> library of Mariano Gonzales Leal and see the different names it may
> overwhelm
> anyone.
>
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My name is Cathy Tagliabue. I am from the Houston, Texas area. I am researching my Mother's biological father Pablo Montano from Juanacatlin, Jalisco, Mexico. In the 1930's my Mother's biological parents worked for a hospital in Waco, TX. Pablo and his brother Hilarion would cross into the US for work and they roomed together. Pablo worked there for at least a decade.

I need some assistance. After looking on Ancestry.com there are 2 or 3 Pablo's that could be her Father and I need help finding a document that has both Pablo and Hilarion on it. I also found a border crossing for Hilarion that states his father is Jesus. Any advice or suggestions are welcomed. Pablo was suppose to be an older man. I found a border crossing for a Pablo Montano where he crosses into Waco, TX. and shows his birth-year as 1897.

I also had DNA testing through Ancestry.com for my ethnic makeup and it shows that I am 11% Native American. I am hoping I can also find out more about that.

I was a banker and a stay at home Mom. I've been battling cancer the last couple of years. This is my Mom's dream to find out more about her biological father.
My dear sweet Mother passed away 16 years ago.

Thank you.
Cathy

Hello everyone.
MY name is Piero Ornelas, and I am tracing my family's surname to, and before it was present in San De Los Lagos. (Referred to after this, as "SJDLL) The relatives I am positive about are as follows.
This is my first attempt at this research, and I am concerned that with one mistake, I may get everything before my great grandfather wrong, and I have heard that there are several "Ornelas" families in SJDLL, who were all related. If you have any information or corrections I would welcome them! thanks!
I am very interested in if this nis true that much of our Surname is actually Portuguese and not Spanish of origin. I was surprised!
Any help or clarifications great appreciated! Thanks!

My line:

My Father, Ralph Ornelas, d.1962

My grandfather, Mario Ornelas born San Juan de los lagos
b. January 19, 1909. d. march 27, 2004, in Monterey Park, California, at the age of 95.

My great-grandfather, Apolinar Ornelas
b. around 1880, In or near San Juan De Los lagos, (baptized on July 29, 1877 in SJDLL)

My Great-Great grabdfather Florencio Ornelas
b. 1872 in Manuel Ojinaga, Chihuahua

My Great-great-great grandfather Bernardo Ornelas baptized on February 17, 1722, in SJDLL

My Great-great-great-great Grandmother Dorotea De Ornelas
born about 1695, in SJDLL

My Great-great-great-great-great grandfather Andres De Ornelas
b. 1636 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco,

My great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, Alvaro VI Albares de Ornellas y Hurtado de Mendosa
b. 1598 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico

My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather Alvaro V Albares deOrnellas
b. 1561, in Canico, Ihlas Madeiras, Portugal

my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great--great grandfather, Joao De Ornelas
b. 1530 in Caniço, Madeira, Portugal.