Nuestros Ranchos Site

Is anyone in this group, except me, researching the Brito line?

Para quienes tengan ascendencia de los apellidos Rincón y/o Romo, pueden visitar el siguiente sitio de internet, en el cual se mencionan algunos datos historicos relativos a Diego Romo de Vivar y a Francisco Javier Rincon y Romo, asi como otros datos historicos de este Pueblo español:

http://www.aytorielves.es/pages/dihistoria.html

Saludos,

Bernardo Menchaca Falcon

Related to message 1 Sep 20 2013 from Tom Huizar
Dr. Moises,I can't thank you enough. This information is more than I thought I would ever discover. It is so fascinating. I am grateful for this information. Is this your lineage as well? If so, which relative to you come from. I'm eager to know. I'm sure we're related.Thank you again. Tom
Related to message 2 Sep 23 2013 from Anna Smith
I found next info
PATRICIO HUIZAR E YNES ROMERO children
JULIAN HUIZAR ROMERO married CATARINA FERNANDEZ SALAZAR (daugther from FELIPE FERNANDEZ and LORENZA SALAZAR)
childrenMARIA VICTORIANA HUIZAR FERNANDEZ born Sep 5 1825 in Cartagena, Jalisco., was baptized Sep 12 1825 in Totatiche, Jalisco.
I need more info to try to help you tracking more about your HUIZAR roots.In ther other hand i m pretty sure we are some how related, dificult is to know the exactly source or the first HUIZARS maybe before 1700 and and there are no catholic church info before this date so far i know.regardsDr. Moises Beutelspacher Huizar

Hello, I'm so glad to find this group. My interest is in finding information about the farm of my grandfather X 10, Fernando Javier Ribera y Moncada and his family in Tala, Jalisco in the late 1700s. After his death, his belongings were sold in Tala, so I'm hoping that means that is where his farm was. By that time his wife, María Teresa Dávalos-Bracamonte y Patron, was deceased as was his son, Jose Nicolas Ribera y Dávalos (my ancestor).
I do not know where they are buried. Did the church in Tala (1700s) have a cemetery?
I would be so thankful for any help anyone can give me with these questions. Thanks.
Are there any Ribera family members from Tala in this group?

Cheri

kittycpdv2@gmail.com

Answer (2) to Mrs. Anna A. Smith Message 2 Sep 23 2012
PATRICIO
HUIZAR and YNES ROMERO children

JOSEPH
JUACHIN GUIZAR ROMERO (b. Mar 20 1768 in Cartagena), (bapt Mar 27 1768 in
Colotlan, Jal.

JOSEPH
MARGARITO GUIZAR ROMERO (b. Jun 21 1776 in Cartagena), (bapt Jun 27 1776 in
Colotlan, Jal.

MA.
DEL CARMEN GUIZAR ROMERO ( bapt. Jan 20 1779)

JULIAN
HUIZAR ROMERO married CATARINA FERNANDEZ SALAZAR (daugther from
FELIPE FERNANDEZ and LORENZA SALAZAR)

children

MARIA
VICTORIANA HUIZAR FERNANDEZ (born Sep 5 1825 in Cartagena, Jalisco)., (was
baptized Sep 12 1825 in Totatiche, Jalisco).

I
need more info to track more about your HUIZAR roots.

In
ther other hand i m pretty sure we are some how related, dificult is to know
the exactly source or the first HUIZAR

S
maybe before 1700 but there is no catholic church info before this date
so far i know.

PS
attached are the baptism acts from

Ma. Victoriana Huizar Fernandez

Joseph
Juachin Guizar Romero

Joseph
Margarito Guizar Romero

Jose
Noverto Guizar Romero

Hello,
I have found a marriage record for my 2x GG and I was hoping someone could assist in translating it? I can make out some names but the "loopyness" of the writing mixed with the Spanish makes it difficult to understand.

The record is for Severiana Torres to Guillermo Godoy, the parents to my great grandmother- Andrea Godoy.

I think there is a lot of information on this record and if anyone can assist that would be great.

Here is the link on FamilySearch.org:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21146-5126-47?cc=1918187&…

Thank you very much,

Kristine

Hello,
I have found a marriage record for my 2x GG and I was hoping someone could assist in translating it? I can make out some names but the "loopyness" of the writing mixed with the Spanish makes it difficult to understand.

The record is for Severiana Torres to Guillermo Godoy, the parents to my great grandmother- Andrea Godoy.

I think there is a lot of information on this record and if anyone can assist that would be great.

Here is the link on FamilySearch.org:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21146-5126-47?cc=1918187&…

Thank you very much,

Kristine

Hello friends,
I've posted four new film extractions this week and that should give you enough material to keep you busy over the long weekend. :)

I'd like to thank Enrique Agraz and Jaime Alvarado for their contributions. Direct links to blog pages are below.

Happy hunting!

1796 FHL Source Film 168091
http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2011/11/1796-fhl-source-film-168091…

1796 FHL Source Film 168092
http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2011/11/1796-fhl-source-film-168092…

1796 FHL Source Film 168093
http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2011/11/1796-fhl-source-film-168093…

1700-1705 FHL Source Film 168605
http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2011/11/1700-1705-fhl-source-film-1…

Hello to all the researchers out there.

I am still trying to find information on my Acevedo Line. The farthest back I have gone is to 1773 in Tepetongo, Zacatecas.

Jose Toribio born about 1773 in Tepetongo, Zacatecas, married Trinidad Quesada. He also remarried after being widowed; to Maria Rita Almaraz on December 1830.

His brother
Jose Maria Acevedo was born about 1785.
was married on 10-12-1811 in Zacatecas,
Zacatecas to Maria Josefa Aguiar.

Another brother Bernardo Acevedo was born about 1787. He married Marianna Lujan (or Lopez) on 11-l6-1811.

All three brothers marriage record lists their father as Juan Jose Acevedo.

I cannot find any record of Juan Jose Acevedo.

Is there any one out there that might be able to help me.?

Thank you,
Aida Garralda
garralda@cox.net

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Hi
Does anyone know where Zacatecas Sagrario baptisms of the 1700's are? I looked in the usual place in familysearch but they are not there (Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Sagrario)There is a gap from 1678 to 1840.

Regards
Denise

Does anyone have information about a certain José de Figueroa Venegas, who lived in Jalpa, Zac in the 1650s? I found him in the entry below in "Libro primero del Notario Felipe de Espinoza, correspondiente al año de 1653". I haven't had any luck finding information about him. Any help would be appreciated.

¿Alguien tiene información sobre un fulano llamado José de Figueroa Venegas, que vivió en Jalpa, Zac en los 1650s? Encontré su nombre en un expediente en el "Libro Primero del Notario Felipe de Espinoza, Correspondiente al Año de 1653". No eh encontrado mac información sobre el.

"Zacatecas, 9 de junio 1656. El Licenciado José de Figueroa cura beneficiado, vicario y juez eclesiástico de Jalpa, da poder a Domingo Fernández Cordero vecino de la ciudad de Guadalajara para que en su representación cobre adeudos. Firma José de Figueroa Venegas. fjs. (104-104v)
119. Poder especial."

Gracias.
Arturo

Miren la página que acabo de encontrar, es el Archivo Historico Militar, DIGITALIZADO!!
Espero les sirva.

http://www.archivohistorico2010.sedena.gob.mx/busqueda/busqueda.php

I've mainly read negative reviews about My Heritage. Does anybody hear have any personal experience with this particular website for genealogical research? Any help would be appreciated.

Answer to Thomas Huizar message 1 from Sep 2013

SILVIANO HUIZAR
and FELIPA CAMPOS

Children

1. FELICIANO HUIZAR CAMPOS

FELICIANO
married Feb 9 1859 in Colotlan, Jal. SILVANA DIAS TINAJERO daugther from GERONIMO
DIAZ AND FRANCISCA TINAJERO

Children

J. EUSEBIO
HUIZAR DIAS Bapt. Mar 17 1860 in Totatiche, Jal.

RUMUALDO
HUIZAR DIAS Bapt. Feb 20 1862 in
Colotlan, Jal.

VICTORIANA HUIZAR
DIAS (1863) Bapt. Dec 26 1867 in Colotlan

PAULA HUIZAR
DIAS (1864) Bapt. Jan 20 1864 in Colotlan

CESAREA HUIZAR
DIAS Bapt. Mar 11 1866 in Colotlan

JOSE MERCED HUIZAR
DIAS (1870) Bapt. Sept 29 1870 in Colotlan

JOSE DEMETRIO HUIZAR
DIAS ( Dec. 23 1873 in Totatiche) Bapt. Dec 28 1973 in Totatiche, Jal

ABUNDIO HUIZAR
DIAS (1876) Bapt. Jul 16 1876 in Totatiche, Jal.

MARIA SEFERINA
HUIZAR DIAS (1878) Bapt. Aug 30 1878 in Colotlan, Jal.

RUMUALDO
HUIZAR DIAZ married in Colotlan,
Jal. CRUZ MIRAMONTES DEL REAL (daugther
from PABLO MIRAMONTES and MAGDALENA DEL REAL

Children

ATANASIO
HUIZAR MIRAMONTES (Aug 14 1891 in Rancho Agua Gorda), Bapt. Aug 18 1891 in
Colotlan, Jal.

ANICETO HUIZAR
MIRAMONTES (Apr 17 1889) Bapt. Apr 20 1889 in Colotlan), (died Jan 14 1969 in
San Diego, Calif., USA)

Files attached

From Atanasio (bapt.)

From Aniceto (bapt.)

From Feliciano and Silvana (marriage)

regards
Dr. Moises Beutelspacher Huizar

I received the following from my Family History Center Manager:

From: Lucy Whitehead
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 10:51 AM

- I learned from Salt Lake that Internet Explorer has problems on the
familysearch sites and that both Google Chrome and Firefox work better. So
I installed Google Chrome on all the computers and the icons that link to
familysearch sites now use Chrome. Internet Explorer is still available in
the tray at the bottom of the screen.

When using Chrome, you should know that to search for something there is no
separate search box, you just type your search item into the same place you
would type an address.

Antonio Avila, son of Juan de Avila and Josepha Ximenes? married Ysobel Avila, daughter of Joseph de Avila and Bernarda Ortega in Tlaltenango 14 Jan 1747. I believe they may be related because Manuel Avila and Maria Leubana were padrinos for Josepha Avila Ortega (21 Nov. 1721 of Tlaltenango) and Juana Gertrudis Avila Ximenes (8 Dec 1734 of Tlaltenango) I would appreciate knowing if anyone has been working on these family trees and can assist me. Thank you.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-51967-43?cc=1804458&wc…

(1st record on the 2nd page)

Although I'm getting a little better reading these records, I'm still not where I would like to be.

I believe this links to the Baptism of Bartolo Luna (07Feb1668), sister to my 7th GGM - Cecelia Luna. Can anyone read the surname of the his mother - Lorenza _________? The father's name is also Bartolo.

I would also like to connect with anyone else who descends from this line.

Thanks in advance,
Roy

In checking through the Dispensations posted recently I found one that seems to be related to Angela Lucia(AKA Andrade, Lopez) Vidro (wife of Miguel Calletano Villegas Pelayo) from whom many with relations in the areas of Tenemaxtlan, Ayutla, Tecolotlan, and Ejutla are descended. Here is the link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-80760-36?cc=1874591&wc…

What caught my eye is that the Father of the Groom is named Alejo Andrade and I am considering that Angela Lucia could be a sister. I located the Marriage for Alejo Andrade And Nicolasa Ortega dated 20 May, 1731(Cocula; Film 232884; Image 398) but it fails to list Alejo's parents.

In searching for Sebastian, the GGrandfather, I did locate Sebastian Gomez Vidro and Nicolasa Morales whose daughter's, Isabel, whose marriage is mentioned in Expediantes Mtrimoniales, Image 35: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18577-54955-93?cc=1874591&wc…

If someone can make sense in the search for this elusive ancestor, it would be greatly appreciated. Any suggestions?

Deedra Corona

Hello,

My name is Kathleen LaPoint, and I just started this research a couple months ago. My mother was born in Wisconsin, and her parents and older siblings were born in Arandas. My files show four generations of my mothers’s ancestors, starting with my grandparents. I have a few more generations that I still need to verify; I should be able to upload those files soon.

The locations I’ve found so far in church and civil records are Arandas, Santa Maria de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, San Miguel el Alto, Encinillas, and Unión de San Antonio.

Surnames are Magaña, Vera, Lara, Gutiérrez, Palomino, Vivanco, Villagrana, Garcia, Aguilar, Gonzalez, Hernandez, Rodriguez, Aceves, Muñoz, Horta, Espinosa, Balderrama, Moreno, Sermeño, Martin, and de Arcos.

I recently had DNA analysis performed by 23andme and have uploaded the data to familytreedna.com and GEDmatch (data are still being processed at GEDmatch).

I’ve started looking through some member files, but the images on doc and docx files aren't visible. Does anyone know why that might be?

Thank you Joseph for starting this group and to all of you for your contributions. I’m learning a lot already going the archives and looking forward to working with you.

Regards,
Kathleen

Contact Angel directly for the attachment:

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 5:51 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: Anthropological Genetic Genealogy: The Lombard Connection to
Italian Families (Haplogroup I)

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on Anthropological Genetic
Genealogy: The Lombard Connection to Italian Families (Haplogroup I). If you
would like to learn more about the mark this ancient civilization made on
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* Call: 505-277-0077, press option 1
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Best Regards,

Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

P.S. For more information open the attachment.

Hi, I was wondering if Aguila was an alternative spelling for Avila. Any opinions?

Regards,
Denise

For the attached flyer please contact Angel directly at his email below:

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:13 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The DNA of Christopher Columbus

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a free DNA presentation on the DNA of
Christopher Columbus on October 19, 2013 at 2:00 pm. For more information,
please see the attached flyer.

Best Regards,
Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

Estoy buscando registros católicos o civiles de matrimonios o información matrimonial de los municipios de Mazamitla y Quitupan, en el sureste de Jalisco, de los años 1864-1867, que no se encuentran en el sitio de Family Search. Sabe alguien donde más se pueden hallar? Gracias!

Jesús

This dispensation is found in Arturo Ramos Pinedo's book, "Familias Antiguas de Tlaltenango" on page 74. I looked at the original dispensation via Family Search, and I believe that at least one of the surnames is incorrect in Arturo's book. The witnesses' surname was printed in Arturo's book as Andrés de Cabrera, but I am almost certain that it is actually Andrés de Talabera. Here is a link to the original dispensation:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15265-25184-8?cc=1804458&wc=…

Also, I am also very interested in deciphering the madrina's surname. Arturo has it listed as Isabel Estrada or Andrade. I agree with her first name being Isavel, but I believe her surname may not be Estrada or Andrade. All I can decipher is the end of here surname being "...drada".

Any help from other members and/or Arturo would be appreciated.

Thanks

Looking for help from the group to find Aurelio Orzua Paz. In reserching Aurelio Orzua ( or Ursua) Paz, Christened on 31 Jul 1865 in San Francisco De Asis Jocotepec, Jalisco, Mexico.
I have been unable to find a birth, marrige or death certificate. All that I know is his daughter name is Maria Del Refugio Paz, from Jalisco Mexico born 4 Jul 1894, death 1976 in Pomona California ( Los Angeles County) .

It is possible that Aurelio's parents ( Rosario Paz and Ladislao Orzua) are related becuase of the realtionship of Aurelio's mother Ladislao to our grandfather Savino Orzua ( or Ursua) from San Antonio, Jalisco Mexico.

The only record I found was in family Search:

Name:
Aurelio Paz Orzua
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Jul 1865
Christening Place: SAN FRANCISCO DE ASIS,JOCOTEPEC,JALISCO,MEXICO
Mother: Ladislao Orzua
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60343-2
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
GS Film number: 234031

Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.
Dennis Duke Romo