Other 15 Century Spanish Families

Does anyone have any more info on the genealogy of these people?
Any info would be appreciated. I would also like to thank this group for all the help
and support we all have for each other.

Juan Lopez de Elizalde (ca. 1560)
Juan Becerra y Hurtado de Mendoza
Anna Sanchez de Mendoza
Martin Navarro de Gabay
Maria Diez de Enguino
Diego ARias de Sotelo (was he a conqistador or his father?)

Ref: Family Search

To the group

I have been unable to find records with Family Search. I put in names and
all I was getting was 'no record'. I realized it was impossible to have
so many 'no record'. I put the name of a person I knew was in the records
and again got a 'no record'.

I called Family Search and after quite a long time the problem was
resolved.

Joseph thinks I should share this.

I was working with Mexican records. I typed mexico. There was a
drop...featuring countries....it had Mexico with a capital M.. It is now case
sensitive! And, to think I have spent hours looking for records and unable to
find!!!

Mickey

Help needed on records

Hello everyone, I need help by locating the records on Mixtlan, Jalisco before 1898. In familysearch Mixtlan's rcords begin on that year. My question is: does anyone know where the pervous records are? Where to look at? The closest towns that I can figure out are Atengo, Atenguillo, Talpa de Allende, Mascota or Ameca.To which parrish Mixtlan reported before 1898? I am having a har time locating an ancestor that may be in Mixtlan abt. 1875 Any help prived would be very apreciated. Thanks in advance.

Jorge Enrique McCormick

Hola soy nuevo aqui los saludo a todos respetuosamente y me permito solicitar de su ayuda para establecer correctamente los datos de mis ancestros que se ubicaban en las poblaciones de Guachinango,Ameca y Talpa de Allende Jalisco.
Bisabuelo Eudoro Curiel originario de guachinango Jalisco por 1861 aproximadamente y fallecido probablemente en Ameca Jalisco entre 1916 y 1930.
Bisabuela Antonia Macedo Corona originaria probablemente de Talpa de Allende Jalisco por 1871 aproximadamente y fallecida el 16 marzo 1907 en Ameca Jalisco.
Abuelo George E McCormick originario de Pittsburgh P.A. en 26 marzo 1872 hijo de Louis y Sarah McCormick fallecido en Ameca Jalisco 30 Julio 1930.
muchas gracias por su apoyo.

Familysearch condensing records

I've found several similar but not the same names that my Family Tree Maker program has condensed to read as one person. Is anyone else finding this problem with their files. I have found two such records in Jerez, Zac and it's troubling since I found them by accident and have to wonder how many others are now incorrect.
Linda in B.C.

Teresa Enríquez del Castillo y Francisco Pérez Temblador.

Hola compañeros del foro, hoy encontré un dato que podría ayudarme a avanzar mucho en una de mis ramas genealógicas, pues encontré que Teresa Enríquez del Castillo era familiar de un ancestro mío, el problema es que no se quienes sean los padres de Teresa, casada con Francisco Pérez Temblador.
Ellos fueron padres de Ignacio Antonio Tembaldor, Notario Público de Jalostotitlán y su partido en 1728 aproximadamente. Eran vecinos de Guadalajara, pero llegaron a San Juan de los Lagos cerca de 1710.
Si alguien me puede ayudar con ello, se lo agradeceré mucho.

Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.

Francisco Morales de Sigala y Antonia de Santillán (Nochistlán, Zacatecas)

Compañeros, no he podido avanzar con una pareja que se encontraba viviendo en Nochistlán, Zacatecas durante los 1700s. Se trata de Francisco Morales de Sigala y Antonia de Santillán. Hasta donde yo he encontrado, tuvieron los siguientes dos hijos: 1. José Morales de Sigala (o simplemente Sigala), quien casa con María Teresa Ramírez el 14 de Febrero de 1751 en Nochistlán y según acta de matrimonio dice que es originario de Jalpa, Zacatecas. 2. Salvadora, quien contrajo matrimonio con Francisco Muños en Nochistlán el 14 de Octubre de 1742.
¿Algunos de ustedes no tiene datos de esta pareja? También me interesa saber dónde puedo encontrar los libros parroquiales de Jalpa, Zacatecas que corresponden a los siglos XVII y XVIII.

Verdin / Berdin - Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco

I'm new to nuestrosranchos and am still learning. I've been working on my family genealogy for a long time, and have finally been able to find documentation through familysearch.org (lots of baptism records!)

My 3rd Great Grandmother was named Eduvige Casillas Verdin (1798), her mother was Maria Jesus Verdin Romo, or Ana Jesus Berdin (unknown birth date), depending on the documents I've found. Her grandfather was Pascual Verdin Villavicencio Moya (1717 or 1735, I have found both of these dates for him)

Pascual's parents seem to be Juan Bautista Verdin y Codar and Maria de Josefa Villavicencio Moya y Monroy, but this is based only on other's family tree and not on and documentation.

I would appreciate any suggestions on finding a good connection between Eduvige and Juan Bautista and Maria de Josefa. I feel as if I"m missing a generation somewhere between them.

Thank you,
Joan Ochoa Sullivan

is there a place called chero kee in mexico

i read this marriage document and it says the couple came from a place called chero kee. what i find weird about this, is that i thought that the cherokee people were only in the USA.

here's the link to the marriage record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18450-68087-31?cc=1874591&wc…

surname search

  Elvira, Have you tried going to the Family Search Catalog?  click on 'keywords' then put what you are looking for in the box.  [Tamez or Tames]

   By the way, the ''contact us'' or whatever it is, brings you an email from the support people who know how the site works.....Good luck!  Marie
 

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Hello, Everyone!

Can someone give information or contacts with people doing research on the Tamez/Tames families from Nuevo Leon?
I understand some books about the last name have been published but cannot locate any of them. Can anyone point me in the right direction here as I have no publisher or name of authors but have only heard about the books existing.

Also, does anyone know for sure the origin of the last name?  So far all I have found says its either Jewish or Arabic.

Hoping to get a response,

Elvira

____________________________________________________________
Political system upset?
Democrats BIG advantage in America about to completely vanish
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/51bdf5d03277775cf797est03vuc

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diego romo de vivar y juana maria ruiz de esparza

hola
alguien me puede ayudar?
por una de mis lineas de mi arbol
el ultimo romo que tengo registrado es
a diego romo de vivar con juana maria ruiz de esparza en mi arbol
no eh podido encontrar su matrimonio ,el hijo mas antiguo
que encontre data del año 1720 en aguascalientes supongo que
diego y juana maria se casaron antes de 1720 en aguascalientes.

encontre un matrimonio que es el siguientes:
diago de chaves con juana ruiz de esparza casado en 1716 en aguascalientes
el es hijo legitimo de nicolas de chaves y antonia de villalobos
no eh encontrado registros si exitio un diego de cahves con juana ruiz de esparza
ni bautismos ni defuncion e hijos .

supogamos si cambiamos el apellido chaves por el de romo encontro un matrimonio de:
nicolas romo de vivar con maria lopez de la cruz villalobos casaron en 1684 en aguascalientes padres supuesto de diego romo de vivar casado con juana maria ruiz esparza.

la pregunta sera las mismas personas ?
comparacion:

diego romo de vivar con diego de chaves con
juana maria ruiz esparza juana maria ruiz esparza
matrimonio antes de 1720 matrimonio en 1716 aguascalientes
aguascalientes

para mi criterio diria que son las mismas personas
pero necesitos opiniones
se los agradezco mucho
saludos
que tenga un bonito dia
bye

Research Digest, Vol 89, Issue 13

Hello, Everyone!

Can someone give information or contacts with people doing research on the Tamez/Tames families from Nuevo Leon?
I understand some books about the last name have been published but cannot locate any of them. Can anyone point me in the right direction here as I have no publisher or name of authors but have only heard about the books existing.

Also, does anyone know for sure the origin of the last name? So far all I have found says its either Jewish or Arabic.

Hoping to get a response,

Elvira

____________________________________________________________
Political system upset?
Democrats BIG advantage in America about to completely vanish
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/51bdf5d03277775cf797est03vuc

Cristero Wars Saint Pedro Esqueda Ramires b. 1887

Busco information de la Familia de Santo Pedro Esqueda Ramires, Nacido en San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco y Santo de la guerra de los Cristeros.

I am seeking any information on the family of Padre Pedro Esqueda Ramires, a defender of the Catholic Church durring the Cristero Wars of Los Altos 1926-1929. Here is the information I have on him. Born 29 of April, 1887, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco. Parents Margarito Esqueda y Nicanora Ramires. Abuelos Paternos Apolonio Esqueda y Merced Hernandez. Abuelos Maternos Juan Ramirez y Luisa Flores.

gaspar masias y beatriz perez

hola
alguien sabe quienes son los padres de juan masias esposo de juana saldaña?
juan masias fallecio en 1681 aguascalientes
hay publicaciones donde mencionan que los padres de juan masias son:
gaspar masias valdes y beatriz perez.

pero encontre el matrimonio de un gaspar masias valades con mariana de torres
el 26 y 29 de mayo 1612 en aguascalientes pero no mencionan a los padres.

Hijos de gaspar masias valades y mariana de torres:
maria masias tabera baut 27 enero 1620 aguascalientes
hija legitima de gaspar masias valades y mariana de tabera y torres

Encontre otros matrimonios que pudieran ser hermanos de mariana torres tabera:

agueda tabera y torres casada gernardo de valdilucia en 26 enero 1622 ags
ella hija de nicolas ramirez y polonia de torres.

maria de tabera y felipe masias valadez casada el 1 julio 1618 ags
ella hija de nicolas ramirez y polonia de torres.

la pregunta es : juan masias valades es hijo de gaspar masias valadez y mariana de torres?
beatris peres era la 2 mujer de gaspar masias valadez ?
ya que mariana de torres fallecio en 30 marzo 1622 en aguascalientes.
existe algun documento donde se menciona los padres de juan masias valadez?
y si es asi que son su padres gaspar y mariana torres entonces mariana de torres tabera es hija de nicolas ramirez y polonia torres ?
espero me pudieran ayudar
se los agradeceria mucho
saludos
que tengan un buen dia
bye

pedro alonso de los inojos y ana dominguez

holaa
alguien sabe del contenido del testamento de ana dominguez
casada con el capitan pedro alonso de los inojos matrimonio el 3 mayo 1620
en sierra de pinos?
en el registro de defuncion de ana dominguez fallecio el 1675 aguascalientes
dice que dejo testamento y dejo de albacea a nicolas de palos su hierno y a
pedro alonso de los inojos su hijo.
saludos
bye

Marriage Record for Jose Maria Roman and Ygnacia Orosco in Jerez 1794

Hello,
I have found the marriage record for my 4th Great Grandfather, Jose (Baptism name is Joseph) Maria Roman and his wife Ygnacia de Orosco. I am getting a tad bit better with reading baptism records but marriage records are a whole new world. If I am understanding this correctly, it says that his parents, father-Bernardo, and mother Ysavel is deceased by the time of this marriage, or just his mother is. And that Jose is from San Juan?
I do not understand much on this record and any help will help a great deal.

Thank you so very much in advance!

Here is the link to family search. The entry is on the bottom of the left page and it carries up to the top of the right page.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15058-9700-37?cc=1804458&wc=…

Y-DNA 37 for Surnames Macias and Guerra

I am looking for other people with the surnames of Macias and Guerra with or without documentation to take a Y-DNA 37 marker test in order to find matches. I have learned I descend from Alonso Guerra Valadez the son of Mateo Macías Valadez according to documentation. Y-DNA matches can help us prove lineages.

This is very exciting, so I hope some of you may be interested. Feel free to email if you have any questions.

Hector Guerra

ADN Los Altos de Jalisco en FTDNA

Esta es una invitación para hombres y mujeres que ya se han hecho pruebas de ADN a través de Family Tree DNA o FTDNA, para que se unan a nuestro grupo de Los Altos de Jalisco para que tengamos un sitio donde podamos compartir y comparar nuestros resultados. El link de nuestro grupo es http://www.familytreedna.com/public/losaltosdejalisco/ Todo lo que hay que hacer para unirse al grupo es: ingresar a Family Tree DNA http://www.ftdna.com con tu cuenta, abrir nuestro link http://www.familytreedna.com/public/losaltosdejalisco/ y hacer click en el botón JOIN REQUEST.

Si aún no se han hecho la prueba de ADN y no están seguros de cuál es la mejor para ustedes, también están invitados a ordenar un kit de ADN y unirse al grupo. Por favor contáctanos antes de ordenar tu kit de prueba para que puedan calificar para nuestro descuento del grupo. Nuestro correo electrónico de contacto es adnlosaltos@gmail.com

Nuestra página de facebook para miembros de FTDNA y para futuros miembros que buscan información y respuestas a sus preguntas sobre pruebas de ADN, con planes de ordenar un kit e integrarse a nuestro grupo de FTDNA es https://www.facebook.com/groups/adnlosaltos/

Esperamos verlos pronto en nuestro grupo.

ADN Los Altos

Need help finding Gabriel Torres & Maria Jacova Guerra

Hello,
I need help in finding my great grandparents Gabriel Torres and Maria Jacova Guerra. My grandfather Santiago Torres always said he was from Matanzas, Jalisco. After much research I was able to find his baptismal record in Lagos de Moreno baptismal records. The record says that his parents, Gabriel Torres and Maria Jacova Guerra were residents of Rancho Nuevo, Jalisco and that they registered his birth in the Hacienda Cienega de Mata. (See bap. record translation below)
Isn't Rancho Nuevo close to Teocaltiche? If yes, then why would they have baptised him in Lagos de Moreno?

I have tried searching for his parents birth records based on their reported ages in family search but haven't been successful. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what municipalities I can search? Any other suggestions? I have hit a brick wall with my grandfather's side of the family.

Thank you, Arlene Torres

Baptismal Record:
Paleographic Transcription
[English Translation]

[From Margin:]
number 283
two hundred eighty-three Santiago Torres
Rancho Nuevo

[From the Center:]
In the Hacienda Cienega de Mata in July 29 of 1899 (one
thousand eight hundred and ninety-nine) at noon in the
presence of undersigned Political Commissar, appeared
the Citizen Gabriel Torres, field laborer of thirty years old,
resident of Rancho Nuevo, civilly and canonically married
with Maria Jacova Guerra of thirty-two years old
[showing] [sic] his son Santiago, who was born in twenty-
fifth day of the current month at eleven at night.= Were
witnesses of this written record, the Cititzens Camilo
Gonzalez, and Juan Rangel, both majors old, married,
field laborers of the same neighborhood. they agree this
written record which was read to them, and they not
signed by not knowing.- Is copy that I certify.= Cienega,
July 29, 1899. the Political Commissar. Basillio Lopez de
Nava

Gonzalez de Hermosillo y Alvarez Luna

Hola un saludos a todos y mi reconocimiento a los administradores de tan importante, interesante y útil sitio.
Quisiera saber si alguien tiene un documento dónde se establezca la relación clara, concisa y verídica de :
Personaje: Manuel González de Hermosillo casado ( 7 feb 1712 Aguascalientes )con Catalina Romo de Vivar.
Con sus supuestos padres Juan González de Hermosillo Muñoz de Nava y Antonia Alvarez Tostado de Luna.
y sus hermanos Gonzalez de Hermosillo Alvarez Luna
Gertrudis (5 Mayo 1675) Teocaltiche
Joseph (26 oct 1679) Teocaltiche
Antonia (13 Junio 1682) Teocaltiche
Diego ( 14 Jul 1684) Teocaltiche
Mil Gracias
J. Gonzalez LP