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Just a quick note/report on the NARA Genealogy Fair I attended on Wed., Apr 11, at National Archives in Washington, DC.

The theme for the fair: "Buried Biography: Bring 'Em Back to Life" ; this fair focused on Federal records located @ NARA that relate to genealogy, and that CANNOT be researched online (which means one must go to NARA/DC or other NARA facility). If you haven't visited the NARA genealogy site, I recommend doing so - LOTS of good stuff there; this is the URL:
http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/
(Check out the genealogy Workshop schedule - maybe there is something near you to attend).

This URL will provide details regarding the fair:
http://www.archives.gov/dc-metro/know-your-records/genealogy-fair/

The speakers were encouraging genealogists to visit NARA sites to discover obsure (US federal) records that could aid researchers who were WRITING FAMILY HISTORIES and biographies. Some of the information would be helpful for writing about ancestors who immigrated to the U.S.
There were 12 different lectures (could choose only 5).

One of the interesting lectures was called "Stormy Weather" - a discussion of how weather effects families, communities, and local economies. Did severe or cataclysmic weather conditions cause families to move from one place to another, etc. (Note: this lecture was a "maiden" lecture - never before presented; we were the guinea pigs for the speakers - but I thought it was a very interesting topic, and provided food for thought. Samples of types of federal records were: 1) Annual Reports of the Surveyors General; 2) federal annual reports of violent ... weather; 3) records of: the Weather Bureau; WPA; Dept of State (there was a brief discussion of the world-wide effcts of the eruption of the volcano Kracatoa [?sp]); 4) photograph collection.

Though I live in Virginia, i will not be able to attend the NGS conference, There sure are some great presentations scheduled.

Have a good day.
Natalie in VA

agustin mota wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: agustin mota
Subject: Suniga -Luna
To:

I am looking for my lost family can you help? The only information i have is oral history. My grandfathers name was Asencion Luna Haro born around 1892 in Cuculiten Jalisco. My great grandfathers name was Crespin Luna he married Severiana Haro both i believe from the same area.my grandmothers name was Clemencia Suniga born around 1910, married at age 13 died at about age20. after there marrige nothing was ever herd about the Suniga elders. My great grandfathers name was Pedro Suniga i was told came from the Tepetongo area.I was told years ago and recently that there had been a fire in Momax and that these records were lost. My aunts have birth certificates but they provided the information so that the certificate could be made.I know this for a fact.So any information will help get started.I am also reaserching Mota,Herrera,Alvares all from the Momax area these names are progresing due to other records.Thank you all Agustin from northern Sonoma county.

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A quick question.

Is anyone from the group, going to the NGS's conference in Richmond, next week?

Jonathan

Tony,
I found a declaration of intention to become a USA citzen by Jose Chavez in
1884.
Gloria

Is anyone else searching this area? I might of found some of my ancestors from this place. Here is the following information from IGI.

Jose Norverto de la Cueba and Maria Salome Gonzales
Marriage: May 15, 1787
Teocuitlan de Corona, Jalisco, Mexico
Parents of Groom: Nicolas de la Cueba & Teodora de la Garza
Parents of Bride: Gabriel Gonzales & Antonia Aguirre

Can anyone help? Thanks . any help or advice is appreciated! -Daniel

For Raul Fernandez, I just noticed I have some records for what I think are your lines in Los Haros. I have records I haven't entered in to my files yet but if you go to Rootsweb and put in Matilde (Maria) Santiago birth date 1872 it will pull up the family and the records I have on that line. I don't have the ancestor that connects you but I do have 3 children for them as well as some ancestors, hope it's your line and of some help to you.

Linda in Everett

Loulou,

Will you be going to this event? Or for that matter will anyone else who's from that region be going to this celebration in April? I don't know if I can but it sounds like it would be a nice opportunity to meet up with people from our region.

Thanks Loulou for posting this!!

Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

----- Original Message ----
From: Loulou_R
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:39:53 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sèptimo Aniversario del Día de Nochistlense

Just wanted to pass along the following announcement:

La Asociación de Clubes Nochistlenses los invita a celebrar el día del Nochistlense los días 28 y 29 de Abril del presente año.

http://nochistlenses.org/eventos.html

Thanks, I was able to see the American Heritage this time.
Mary

-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward Serros
>Sent: Apr 1, 2007 9:41 PM
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mary,
>
>
>Mary,
>
>Via personal email, you asked me more about Pánuco and I must comment on the Oñate family.
>
>The Oñate family has everything to do with Pánuco, originally a great silver-producing pueblo. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crist%C3%B3bal_de_O%C3%B1ate for a summary of the Oñate family activities in Pánuco. Don Juan de Oñate “discovered” and named El Paso, Texas. More Don Juan, see http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/OO/upo2_print.html.
>
>If you prefer Spanish, see http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_O%C3%B1ate for Don Juan de Oñate.
>
>As is the case of many great mining cities, once the mines become depleted the inhabitants leave, hence a pueblo fantasma, which fairly much describes Pánuco today given descriptions I have had of the place presently and also conversations with people from Zacatecas.
>
>I was in Zacatecas, Zacatecas two years ago and I unforgivably did not visit the town, or at least what is left of it. It is the part of the El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro, see http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/2004/2/2004_2_44.s…, which starts off with a discussion of Pánuco. The latter link is a delightful story of a journey on the El Camino Real.
>
>I will also post this on the Ranchos site. For what it is worth, many of the Cerros (or Cerro or de Cerro or de Serro) are originally from Pánuco, or so it is said. There is a part of Páncuo called Casa de Cerro. I have not made any connections with my family and anybody in Pánuco, as of yet.
>
>Ed Serros

I recommend the following books:

Dogs of God : Columbus, the Inquisition, and the defeat of the Moors / James
Reston, Jr., New York : Doubleday : c2005.

"To The End Of The Earth : A History Of The Crypto-Jews Of New Mexico" by
Stanley M. Hordes. Columbia University Press, NY, 2005.

Gloria

Hello Ed,
My mother's maiden name is Onate, and she is reported to have been born in either Villa Garcia, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes, Ags. I say reported because she had no birth certificate, grew up believing she was from Aguascalientes until she met her aunt Leonarda Onate who told her otherwise. Tia also took us to meet her brother Adolfo Onate living at the time (1960's)in Guadalajara. I have not been able to verify through FHC where she was born. My grandfather was Luis Onate and my ggrandfather was Don Rosalio De Onate. I was also taken to Don Rosalio's tomb inside a church in Aguascalientes. Unfortunately, I was about 12 at the time and not much interested. My mother's oral family history sounds like a gothic novel. Ironically, the only records I have found are from Panuco, Zacatecas 1882 on the marriage of my maternal grandmother--Santelices. I'm aware of the Onate history you so kindly made available; it's much more recent past that's got me stumped! Alice

--- ed@serros.net wrote:

From: Edward Serros
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mary,
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 21:41:15 -0700 (PDT)

Mary,

Via personal email, you asked me more about Pánuco and I must comment on the Oñate family.

The Oñate family has everything to do with Pánuco, originally a great silver-producing pueblo. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crist%C3%B3bal_de_O%C3%B1ate for a summary of the Oñate family activities in Pánuco. Don Juan de Oñate “discovered” and named El Paso, Texas. More Don Juan, see http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/OO/upo2_print.html.

If you prefer Spanish, see http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_O%C3%B1ate for Don Juan de Oñate.

As is the case of many great mining cities, once the mines become depleted the inhabitants leave, hence a pueblo fantasma, which fairly much describes Pánuco today given descriptions I have had of the place presently and also conversations with people from Zacatecas.

I was in Zacatecas, Zacatecas two years ago and I unforgivably did not visit the town, or at least what is left of it. It is the part of the El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro, see http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/2004/2/2004_2_44.s…, which starts off with a discussion of Pánuco. The latter link is a delightful story of a journey on the El Camino Real.

I will also post this on the Ranchos site. For what it is worth, many of the Cerros (or Cerro or de Cerro or de Serro) are originally from Pánuco, or so it is said. There is a part of Páncuo called Casa de Cerro. I have not made any connections with my family and anybody in Pánuco, as of yet.

Ed Serros

I hope this helps someone.

I am doing research on my Aguilar ancestors and while doing research I
ran into these.

Elvira

Descendants of Narciso Aguilar

Generation No. 1

1. NARCISO1 AGUILAR was born 1826 in , , Mexico, and died in Hacienda
El Mezquite, Fresnillo, Zacatecas, Mexico. He married PATRICIA
HERNANDEZ 1845 in Hacienda El Mezquite, Fresnillo, Zacatecas, Mexico.
She was born 1828 in , , Mexico, and died in Hacienda El Mezquite,
Fresnillo, Zacatecas, Mexico.

Child of NARCISO AGUILAR and PATRICIA HERNANDEZ is:
2. i. JUAN2 AGUILAR HERN

Ed,

Read your wondering about dual names with regards to the Jewish persons and their possibility of dual names. I have to say to those who were brave enough to practiced openly may not have, but those who were the converso basically had two lives and with that two or more names. Depending on their social status and the jobs closest to the crown made the true identity all the more important to hide.

This was not just indigenous to the 1492 expulsion from Spain but has gone back to as far as Gothic period. Names befit the ruling faction that was the "conqueror" of the period. So long before the new world, names fit both survival and religion.

Moor/ Jew conversos were a big part of the conquistadors but their families may have converted up to a hundred years before.
Mari

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The discussion on crypto jews in the New World had me googling around for more information on Jews and Muslims in the New World recently. I was intrigued by someone's mention of their grandmother being a "mesquita", supposedly meaning "mosque" so I took that to refer to Muslims in the New World, since Muslims go to "mosques" and Jews go to their "temples".

I found out that Muslims were not allowed to emigrate to the New World by order of the King. Apparently, he wanted them to stay because of their talents in art, etc. but he wanted to force them to convert. However, the Spaniards imported the Arabic style of architecture and art to the New World, having enjoyed it in Spain for hundreds of years.

I found an online five page article called "Rethinking Jews & Muslims - Quincentennial Reflections" by Ella Shohat, from The Middle East Report of Sept-Oct 1992. I had to purchase the article for $12.00 since there is no library on my island that connects to JSTOR. It was worth the money. I can't forward it to anyone due to the copyright agreement.

The article talks about how the forced conversion of Jews and expulsion of both Muslims and Jews from Spain coincided with the voyages of Columbus in 1492: "The Spanish-Christian war against Muslims and Jews was politically, economically and ideologically linked to the arrival of Columbus' caravels in Espanola. Spain, triumphant over the Muslims, risked investment in Columbus' schemes. His voyages were largely financed by wealth confiscated from Jews expelled during the Inquisition. Columbus' fleet departed from the relatively unknown seaport of Palos because the shipping lanes of Cadiz and Seville were clogged with fleeing Jews". I know that many Conversos were on the caravels to handle the more technical aspects of those voyages, such as navigators, etc..

The article also mentions a movie "El Santo Oficio (The Holy Office), 1973 by Arturo Ripstein, about "the Holy See's attempt to spread the Inquisition into the New World". Conversos ("Maranos") were forced to practice Judaism in secret in the New World. "At the film's finale, the Conversos, along with heretics, witches and indigenous infidels, are burned at the stake for their lack of faith. Those who refused to convert are burned alive, others are burned after hanging".

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---

I would like to know if someone is doing resarch in Panuco, Zacatecas. I would also like a map of Zacatecas, can anyone help me with getting one??

I am doing resarch for my g--grandmother, her name is Manuela Mitre and her father is Maroial Mitre her mother is Juana Sandoval and they are from Panuco, Zacatecas. It seems that her father got married more than once and I am having a hard time to know which is which.
There is to many Manuel's in that area. I found a Manuel Garcia getting married to a Manuela Mitre, but I don't think that is the one. She is 15 years old when she married and if I am not mistaken she got married in 1869. My Manuela Mitre had a child in 1861.

I also ran into a Robert Mite from Colorado.and his g--grandfather's name is Tiburcio Mitre and his wife was Refo Diaz. This was the begning of my confusion. When I did a resarch I found out that both g-g-grandfathers have the same name, but different wifes.

Monday I will be ordering 2 film from the LDS. One for Birth and one for Marriages. Maybe I can solve this problem.

Mary

mgervassi@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.

I have posted numerous articles that focus on this subject on my website -
http://www.geocities.com/papagaia2/crypto-J.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alicia Carrillo"
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Portuguese naming practices

Edward and Linda,

In large part that's what caught my attention knowing that the Portuguese
and Españoles probably had more in common than we factually know of. The
survival instinct is more powerful than the desire to maintain one's
ancestral lineage, unless of course to do so would prove to be advantageous
monetarily or to prove linkage to some royal heritage.

Edward , the possibility exists that the Christian name may have been more
important than the Jewish one. Taking on the Christian name they could still
be Jewish but show to the world through their surname that they were
Christian. The Jews rather than leave Portugal overtly displayed their
Christianity in order to survive. During the reign of King Manuel 1, in
1496, he asked for the hand in marriage of the daughter of Ferdinand and
Isabella, he was told that only under the condition that he purify Portugal
of the Jews as the Spanish had done in 1492. King Manuel had a fondness for
the Jewish people as they were scholars, artists, scientists and the best
educated and rather than expelling them he had them convert to Christianity.
However this didn't last because in the early 1500's there were mass
slaughterings of Jews and many fled to the Netherlands.

Alicia
----- Original Message ----
From: Edward Serros
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 9:39:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Portuguese naming practices

The Portuguese surname practices that you discuss were not unique to the
Portuguese. The Spanish in the 1500's and beyond take similar liberty in the
use of apellidos. For example, the Santos Coy and the de la Garza Falcon
surnames from the Nuevo Leon/Saltillo/Monterey are equally bizarre if you go
back to the original paternal and maternal surnames in Spain. Admittedly,
these two families had family members in their genealogy tree that were
Portuguese and likely Jewish. However, there many other Spanish examples,
e.g. Don Juan de Oñate---Basque paternal line and converso maternal line.

I often wonder if the conversos had multiple names (Christian name and
Jewish name), thereby making the Christian name less important or not as
important. The latter is sheer speculation on my part.

Ed

...Mary, here is a link to many different maps & areas of Zacatecas. This map link can be used for ALL areas in Mexico and other countries as well. I hope this helps ya out some. Until the next time, good luck with your research...

Zacatecas Maps
http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/zacatecas-state-mexico/zacatecas-state-me…

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I would like to know if someone is doing resarch in Panuco, Zacatecas. I would also like a map of Zacatecas, can anyone help me with getting one??

I am doing resarch for my g--grandmother, her name is Manuela Mitre and her father is Maroial Mitre her mother is Juana Sandoval and they are from Panuco, Zacatecas. It seems that her father got married more than once and I am having a hard time to know which is which.
There is to many Manuel's in that area. I found a Manuel Garcia getting married to a Manuela Mitre, but I don't think that is the one. She is 15 years old when she married and if I am not mistaken she got married in 1869. My Manuela Mitre had a child in 1861.

I also ran into a Robert Mite from Colorado.and his g--grandfather's name is Tiburcio Mitre and his wife was Refo Diaz. This was the begning of my confusion. When I did a resarch I found out that both g-g-grandfathers have the same name, but different wifes.

Monday I will be ordering 2 film from the LDS. One for Birth and one for Marriages. Maybe I can solve this problem.

Mary

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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 16:01:59 -0600
From: Jonathan
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Panuco, Zacatecas
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
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Mary,

What type of a map, are you looking for?

Jonathan

--------- Original Message --------
From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Panuco, Zacatecas
Date: 04/01/07 09:40

> I would like to know if someone is doing resarch in Panuco, Zacatecas. I
would also like a map of Zacatecas, can anyone help me with getting one??
>
> I am doing resarch for my g--grandmother, her name is Manuela Mitre and
her father is Maroial Mitre her mother is Juana Sandoval and they are from
Panuco, Zacatecas. It seems that her father got married more than once and
I am having a hard time to know which is which.
> There is to many Manuel's in that area. I found a Manuel Garcia getting
married to a Manuela Mitre, but I don't think that is the one. She is 15
years old when she married and if I am not mistaken she got married in
1869. My Manuela Mitre had a child in 1861.
>
> I also ran into a Robert Mite from Colorado.and his g--grandfather's name
is Tiburcio Mitre and his wife was Refo Diaz. This was the begning of my
confusion. When I did a resarch I found out that both g-g-grandfathers
have the same name, but different wifes.
>
> Monday I will be ordering 2 film from the LDS. One for Birth and one for
Marriages. Maybe I can solve this problem.
>
> Mary
>
>
> mgervassi@earthlink.net
> EarthLink Revolves Around You.

I've been reading a book titled OVER THE EDGE OF THE WORLD by Laurence Bergreen, it's the history of Ferdinand Magellan, the Portuguese Navigator or Fernao de Magalhaes who was said to have been born around 1480 in the Parish of Sabrosa in northwestern Portugal. His lineage can be traced through his father Rodrigo de Magalhaes who could trace his heritage back to the 11th century to a French crusader, De Magalhaes. Rodrigo qualified as minor Portuguese nobility.
As for Fernao's maternal heritage, his mother was Alda de Mesquita. The name Mesquita means mosque and this was a common name for Portuguese conversos who sought to disguise their Jewish heritage. One important detail is that the lineage was difficult to trace on the maternal side due to the unusual naming practices of the Portuguese. It was said that males assumed their father's last name but the females chose other surnames for themselves. They took on their father's name or their mother's, or even a saint's name and some children assumed their grandfather's name or still other family names. It says, " Ferdinad Magellan's brother Diogo took on the name de Sousa, from his paternal grandmother's family. "These irregularities make it difficult to determine even today exactly which branch of the Magalhaes family tree can rightfully claim the expolorer.

Just thought I'd share this with the group.

Alicia

Hello Natalie,

Thank you for your interest. As Alicia has stated, it was a lively
meeting. I hope one day you can join us. I am about go on vacation, so it
may be a few more weeks before I post the notes to NuestrosRanchos. The
next meeting is planned for June 2007 in Granite Bay, CA (another Sacramento
suburb). I will post the exact date, time and place soon. Take care.

Maria Cortez

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: nc_coleman
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] NoCal Genealogy Meeting - will there be a
> report?
>
> Just curious: How was the meeting of the Northern California Ranchos Group
> that was held in Sacramento? The agenda looked very interesting. Will you be
> posting a report?
>
> Natalie in VA
>
> From: Alicia Carrillo
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] NoCal Genealogy Meeting - will there
> be a report?
> To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii
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> Natalie,
>
> I was the note taker and have not had a chance to transcribe my notes and
> present to our coordinator.
>
>

Just curious: How was the meeting of the Northern California Ranchos Group that was held in Sacramento? The agenda looked very interesting. Will you be posting a report?

Natalie in VA

Here's another plug for ROOTS TELEVISION (Jonathan mentioned this in a message in Oct.2006). In addition to the George RYSKAMP lecture on HISPANIC GENEALOGY (in four parts), there are many other presentations on genealogy "how-to", plus all kinds of aids, stories, etc. There is a 3-minute clip of Victor Villasenor where he tells how discovering his roots changed his life, and other clips from the Ancestry series of a few years ago. The programs are listed in alphabetical order, and the Ryskamp lecture is listed as "Hispanic Roots". You could probably watch the programs all day, and it would be like attending a genealogical conference - and, if you were so inclined, you could do so in your pajamas ; )

Here is the site for the Roots Televison program Guide:

http://www.rootstelevision.com/program_guide.php

Good luck - get genealogy smart!

Natalie in VA
P.S. - I'm not really SHOUTING when I use all-caps - just tapping you on the shoulder to get your attention --- 8 > )

I came across this site and thought I would share with y'all in case you had not yet seen it (the site):

http://www.espinosaproductions.com/development/norte.html

I tried to connect to the museum site, but the URL wasn't any good.

Natalie in VA

Saturday afternoon:
I have just returned from the annual genealogy conference held by my local/county genealogical society (Fairfax Genealogical Society). Although the research focus for most of the membership is for American and European ancestry, there is always something to gleam regarding research techniques, which are of course, useful for any research. Because we are just outside Washington, DC, many nationally known researchers/authors, etc are often presenters at our conferences (they may be in the area working on research of their own). The out-of-town speakers were Jana Sloan Broglin, George G. Morgan (he does the "Genealogy Guys" podcasts), and Laura G. Prescott. Two other speakers - Linda Jonas (specializing in Colonial America and British genealogy) and Chuck Mason (a frequent contributor to the NGS news magazine) are members of our society. The conference offered 20 presentations, and it was hard to pick just four.
I had an opportunity to speak to Claire Kluskens, from NARA, who is working on the border-crossing records - the filming and related work (indexing/?) is progressing - SLOWLY; there are ALOT of records (she has been working on this project for at least 5 years).

Does ANYONE know of any HISPANIC GENEALOGY conferences that are planned in the next 18 months (I need a lot of planning time) - anywhere???

Thanks - have a good rest of the week-end.
Natalie in VA

Jonathan,
I am interested in joining the class. How do I sign up?
Thanks for the opportunity.

Gilbert Paez

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> Just to let you all know. In a few weeks, I will start teaching a
> weekly online genealogy class, probably on Hispanic Research, at
> www.familyhistoryliveonline.com . It will be a 30 minute class. So, if
> anyone is interested in learning more, let me know.
>
> Also, I can teach other classes at anytime, or maybe schedule to have
> group conference.
>
> Jonathan
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> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:38:29 +0000
> From: Lester Alvarado
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> Hi there Joseph ,
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> I tried sending an e-mail to Jonathan to the address you gave below but
it returned . I am interested in taking the class .
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> Welester
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> > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:00:14 -0500> From: makas@nc.rr.com> To:
announce@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] [Fwd:
[mexicanfhr] Genealogy Classes]> > > this is a great opportunity. If you
can you should take Jonathan's class.> > joseph> > ===================> >
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Hispanic Research, at> www.familyhistoryliveonline.com . It will be a 30
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Jonathan,

How many weeks will these classes last? I really want to attend, but the rehearsal time for the choir I direct is at the same time as your classes. However, our performance is April 29, and then I'll be free till September when Christmas rehearsals start up.

~Deena Ortiz~
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my inquiries: Arturo, Linda, Alicia, Juanita, Ray, Ed, and Rose (off-line). You are the best!

Natalie in VA