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Hi, Arturo,
 
I hope you get this post.  This is the first time for me posting
directly to the new website.
 
I found a post by a Jaime A. Holcombe in Mexico City who says he is the son
of a Jaime Jose Holcombe who spent his life in serach of their ancestors in
Mexico and Europe.  I sent him an e-mail, although the e-mail address is
from 1999. It is still an active address since it has not kicked back to
me.
 
I am very interested in the Escobedos and the Talamantes, since I am a
descendant of some Escobedos in Zacatecas, and my husband is a descendant of
some Talamanteses in Aguascalientes/Jalisco.
 
I think this Jaime is the repository of all his father's works because he
mentions going through his father's things and finding information such as that
they are descended from a Sir John Holcomb who was knighted by Richard
Lionheart.  Wow!
 
Emilie Garcia'
Port Orchard, WA ---

Hi Prima (Helyn)- I just wanted to thank you for turning me on to this
group. I wonder if this is time to take a vote as to who found out that
they are related because of Joseph's efforts??
 
 

Wow what a very very very fortunate person I am to have such wonderful
and talented Moderators, Rosalinda and Arturo, to help me sort this
situation we find ourselves in out. Rosalinda and Arturo have taken the
bull by the horns and leave me little to do. I want to say thanks in
public for their excellent help. Thank you Rosalinda Thank you  Arturo.



It is something new and anytime you have something new it seems
confusing.



Here is what I need and don't worry we have plenty of time. There is no
rush I just want to get moved over because things will be much better
when we are fully transitioned over to the new site.



I want you to all send me a PRIVATE
email  (makas@nc.rr.com) and tell me If you want one of us to help you
move you over to the new site.



If you have a little bit of confidence why not give it a try yourself,
but if you are sure you can't do it then just send me that private
email (makas@nc.rr.com) and I'll make up a list of folks we need to
move over and we'll take them one at a time. It will take awhile but
there is no rush.



When we get close to having everyone over we'll make the final push and
close the Yahoo group down.



Remember email me privately
(makas@nc.rr.com) as I don't want to clog the list up with folks saying:



Move me



Move me



Move me

Hi Emilie--
 
A signature file is a small file attached to the bottom of your emails.  It can be personalized with a message, an email address, or other info.  You may have one that automatically is included in your emails; however, the website removes them from the posted messages.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: Emilie Garcia
Sent: Mar 7, 2006 8:01 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] [Nuestros Ranchos] Attachments

Oh, Rosalinda,
 
You have such patience.  Now I have another stupid question. What is a signature file?
 
Emilie

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Emilie:

RE:
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All that message means is that the attachment that was sent with your message was removed from the message before it was distributed.  The lists do not allow attachments so when there is an attachment (often just a signature file) it is removed.  Your messages seem to be going through fine.  I am getting all of them.
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Found this on-line - thought you might enjoy it.

ARE YOU A GOOD ANCESTOR?

A good ancestor keeps certificates including birth and death
certificates;
records including health, military, naturalization, and school;
passports;
newspaper and church notices; awards; photos; art and craft work;
journals;
Bibles; diaries; baby, school and wedding books; heirlooms.

He or she dates correspondence, cares for tombstones, keeps research
organized, writes or tapes the family stories, and supports family
organizations.

A good ancestor dates everything, is sure that full names are
included,
records where material may be found and always sees that at least one
other
copy of important data is somewhere else.

A hundred years from now, will they think you were a good ancestor?

http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~families/halsey/humor.html

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Have a good day, Natalie

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Jose (Macias)

I tried to respond to the automated request to have your Earthlink service send you a request to approve my e-mails to you. I did not address it to the nobody@earthlink.com, it just did that automatically. I am wondering if you got my response to the e-mail you sent me today, March 7 at 6:23 pm.

Emilie

Joseph and Arturo,

I believe I was able to load my intro into the nuestros ranchos which I wasn't able to do last night. I guess I also needed to go mimi like Emilie. Emilie that was cute, I didn't know that anyone else used that term "mimi" that we use to say, "It is time to go to bed".

I do have a question though. I first opened my file that was uploaded I belive from yahooranchos to nuestros ranchos. This appears to be the info from who's who and It says this file can be viewed only by you. Why would you need to have that information there to be viewed only by me when I already know what it is, rather than have it posted to be viewed by everyone in nuestrosranchos? Just thinking out loud here.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

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That is a great idea. You want to take a stab at it and simply create a file folder in the Reference Category called Forms? If you have the files in Word of PDF format, you should be able to easily upload them.

I will check your YahooGroups files to see what would be the simplest way to upload them all.

As far as how far I am from Loudon County, I live right in downtown DC and Loudon County is about 30 miles outside of the city so it is not TOO far. It would be great to meet you.

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From: kitty_cortez
Date: Tue Mar 07 12:08:16 CST 2006
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Forms - Tools for Nuestros Ranchos

Hi Arturo
Can we make a folder where we can set up useful forms for all to use?
Examples:
Timeline Form
Extraction Form for Bapt Document
Extraction Form for Marriage Document
Extraction Form for Death Document
Census Form
Confirmation Form

These are forms that I either get at my local Genealogical Society or I have tweaked them a bit to pertain to Mexican Genealogy.

Also, Rich and I have quite a few files on Ranchos Yahoo site. Is there an easy way to transfer them all over or is there a different format to use where we wouldn't need so many files.

Rich and I will be traveling thru Loudoun County, VA and then 2-3 days in Richmond, VA the middle of April. Are you close by? We would love to meet you. After VA we will be stopping by Joseph Puentes in NC, on our way to Gainesville, GA. We will stay in GA for 2-3 days and then start our long trip back home to Rocklin, CA

Thanks for all you hard work on this new Nuestros Ranchos site. It looks great.

Rich and Kitty Cortez
Rocklin, CA

Hi Arturo
Can we make a folder where we can set up useful forms for all to use?
Examples:
Timeline Form
Extraction Form for Bapt Document
Extraction Form for Marriage Document
Extraction Form for Death Document
Census Form
Confirmation Form

These are forms that I either get at my local Genealogical Society or I have tweaked them a bit to pertain to Mexican Genealogy.

Also, Rich and I have quite a few files on Ranchos Yahoo site. Is there an easy way to transfer them all over or is there a different format to use where we wouldn't need so many files.

Rich and I will be traveling thru Loudoun County, VA and then 2-3 days in Richmond, VA the middle of April. Are you close by? We would love to meet you. After VA we will be stopping by Joseph Puentes in NC, on our way to Gainesville, GA. We will stay in GA for 2-3 days and then start our long trip back home to Rocklin, CA

Thanks for all you hard work on this new Nuestros Ranchos site. It looks great.

Rich and Kitty Cortez
Rocklin, CA

Hi Arturo
Can we make a folder where we can set up useful forms for all to use?
Examples:
Timeline Form
Extraction Form for Bapt Document
Extraction Form for Marriage Document
Extraction Form for Death Document
Census Form
Confirmation Form

These are forms that I either get at my local Genealogical Society or I have tweaked them a bit to pertain to Mexican Genealogy.

Also, Rich and I have quite a few files on Ranchos Yahoo site. Is there an easy way to transfer them all over or is there a different format to use where we wouldn't need so many files.

Rich and I will be traveling thru Loudoun County, VA and then 2-3 days in Richmond, VA the middle of April. Are you close by? We would love to meet you. After VA we will be stopping by Joseph Puentes in NC, on our way to Gainesville, GA. We will stay in GA for 2-3 days and then start our long trip back home to Rocklin, CA

Thanks for all you hard work on this new Nuestros Ranchos site. It looks great.

Rich and Kitty Cortez
Rocklin, CA

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Arturo,

Would it be too hard to make the messages posted in the main section be shown in full, instead of having to click the "read more" link?

Also, could you try other fonts to see if the text becomes more readable?

Thanks.

Victor

Hello everyone,



I know change is a challenge for everyone. It is no easier for me to
change from the Yahoo group format to something different, but change
nonetheless is necessary for our survival.



having said that. . .we are going to be making a serious push to
transition over to the new site in the next several weeks. So this is
what I need from you.



1) go to the website and using your Yahoo ID request a password be sent
to you (NOTE: do not start a new account).



2) after you get your password sent to you go back in with your Yahoo
ID and the new password and "LOG-IN."



3) then request a new password if you want or keep the exisiting one,
BUT WHATEVER YOU DO WRITE DOWN YOUR PASSWORD and keep it SOMEPLACE
WHERE YOU CAN FIND IT (and yes I was kind of yelling, did you hear
me???).



4) now after you are logged in I want you to go to "mailing lists" and
subscribe to one or two or all three of them. WHen you do this a group
generated "confirmation" letter will be sent to you. (one for each list
you chose, 3 max). You will have to "reply" to that "confirmation"
email in order for you to be subscribed to the email distribution list.




Let's go with that for now, but



if you are really wanting to dig in for more you can



5) go to "create content" and set up a folder for yourself under "Member
Genealogy Files"

Have a look at Angie Godina's and My folder and try to use this format
just like we had in the Yahoo groups: for example



Angie Godina (aajay1073@yahoo.com)



Joseph Puentes (makas@nc.rr.com; makas_nc)



I would like Peggy, Lourdes, and LongsJourney to
follow this format. . .basically I need this help



and truthfully if it wouldn't be an inconvenience to you all I would
prefer this format:



Joseph Puentes (makas@nc.rr.com; makas_nc)



[[[that is the person's name, followed by their email address, followed
by their ID]]]]]]]]]]



what do you think can we do that.



thanks all and let me know if I can help you. I might be slow at doing
this but I'll get to you all in the order of help needed.



thanks,



joseph

I see that Rosalinda helped Peggy and Mickey here is my help order:



okay here is the new assignment for all: just be patient and I'll be
with you in a short time. don't fret. . .there is plenty of time and
I'll be with you. here is my list of people to help in the order I'll
help when I get home either today or tomorrow from work:



1) Joseph........Like Linda in Everett I, also, am totally
confused!!!   I stumbled around last week with the new website but did
not really know what I was doing......but I did something and am not
sure if it is correct.....PLEASE, when you have time, please, please
check my "account" or "status" or whatever and see if I am ok.....did I
do things right or do I need to do something else?  

 
Thanks~!
 
Josie in San Antonio
Josiett3@satx.rr.com



2)

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Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

Joseph, I just tried to create a file in the format you suggested but I guess I am technically challenged to put it mildly because my file was truncated and only parts of it were visible. I need help in California!! If you could see me now you would see me pulling my hair and yelling, ayuda por favor.

Alicia

Arturo,

Would it be too hard to make the messages posted in the main section be shown in full, instead of having to click the "read more" link?

Also, could you try other fonts to see if the text becomes more readable?

Thanks.

Victor

Thank you, Victor. I will check Gary Felix's page. I have listed on
ybase.org and ysearch.org but have not found any matches. I did find
one close match, from Scotland. The other was Puentes on the
Rancho's Group. Close, but no cigar. I guess I'll just have to hang
around until a match shows up.

Linda

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Emilie--
 
Thanks.  If he contacts me I will let him know.
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: Emilie Garcia
Sent: Mar 6, 2006 5:44 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas

Rosalinda,
 
 It was me, Emilie, who found the SSDI records for Jose's wife's uncle, and I posted that information you saw to the group and I also sent Jose an e-mail at his e-mail address.  I wonder if he has seen that post or my e-mail, since he has not acknowledged them.  I am pretty sure the one I found is the person he is looking for because I traced the family to Arkansas to check birthdates, etc., and I am looking into cemetery records to see if I can find where he is buried. 
 
If Jose contacts you, will you ask him if he ever got my e-mail?  In that e-mail I copied the information that I found on the SSDI.
 
Thanks,
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---

----- Original Message -----
From: lareina2@ix.netcom.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Forgive me, Jose, for the delay in my response.
 
I believe someone located a possible match for your uncle in a previous Ranchos message, but here is the Texas Death Index:  http://vitals.rootsweb.com/tx/death/search.cgi . Rootsweb also has the California Death Index : http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi and the Social Security Death Index : http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi .  Not all states have an online index.  Another website to check is http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ .  That website requires a user name and password; if you pick up the xerox copy I made for everyone at the meeting, I list them there.  This site is more difficult to handle, but once you do, it can be very helpful.  It's just cumbersome.
 
I think the H. Duff found is probably your best match, based on your family's knowledge.  As I said in a previous Ranchos message, you need to be an acceptable legal party to obtain a copy of the death certificate in the state of Texas; otherwise, the state will only confirm a death date.  I learned this the hard way.  You have to wait until 25 years after the death has passed before you may obtain a death cerificate.  Check this website: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/default.shtm to see if your wife qualifies as niece of the deceased.  This is not true in California, just so you know.

I was more than happy to make you welcome, Jose.  I know meeting a new group of people is overwhelming, but I knew we would be a great bunch of people.  I wanted to speak more to you about what you had; maybe at the next meeting.  It was a pleasure to meet all of my online cousins, even if we haven't identified a relationship yet.
 
Rosalinda
Ranchos Moderator

-----Original Message-----
From: zendean
Sent: Feb 27, 2006 7:24 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Rosalinda; What a peach to write back and try to help me  with Harold E. Duff /AKA " H.E. Duff". I know that he was living in Texas when he wrote to his sister Ruth Frances. She said that he was reallly well off and his mansion in Austin seemed the size of a city block in Maywood, Calif. No, I am not sure that he died in Texas, I just assumed. I am sure that he died in the 1980's because Patsy and I had not been married too long when his sister Ruth Frances was so sad that he died. At the time, not having met him and just new to the family, I didn't think to ask for details. You know "not the right time" and all. Rosalinda, how do you check a "death index" ? Is there a site in every state ?
 
  Also, When I came to the meeting last Saturday I felt odd at first and thought that I should maybe leave . How very, very sweet of you to be so kind as to welcome me and make me welcome. I know that you probably did it for all that came, but it ment a lot to me. Thank you, Rosalinda.
 
With respect,
 
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Feb 24, 2006 2:31 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Jose Luis--
 
I looked him up in the Texas Death Index, but there does not appear to be a match.  Are you sure he died in Texas, and is the name correct?
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: zendean
Sent: Feb 24, 2006 10:43 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Mickey;
   My wife had an uncle named Harold Duff, of Austin Texas. He was an oil man who did very well and lived there in Austin by a lake. He died and now all the people that were related are dead. I want to find him and add the details of his death to our genealogy records. Mickey, who would I contact there to get some information, like what is the name of the Austin news paper, local funeral homes etc. He may have died then was buried next to the rest of his family in Arkansas. He had a big mansion in Austin and some some property in Mexico.
  If you or anyone else could give me some concrete leads to help, I would appreciate it very much. He died in the 1980's in Texas. If you can think of any other way to do what I want to do, let me know what you think.
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: MMG8938@aol.com
Sent: Feb 23, 2006 4:35 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Last call for Saturday meeting


Wish I were going....hope to see some of you in October in Salt Lake City
 
Mickey from Texas

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Mickey;
   My wife had an uncle named Harold Duff, of Austin Texas. He was an oil man who did very well and lived there in Austin by a lake. He died and now all the people that were related are dead. I want to find him and add the details of his death to our genealogy records. Mickey, who would I contact there to get some information, like what is the name of the Austin news paper, local funeral homes etc. He may have died then was buried next to the rest of his family in Arkansas. He had a big mansion in Austin and some some property in Mexico.
  If you or anyone else could give me some concrete leads to help, I would appreciate it very much. He died in the 1980's in Texas. If you can think of any other way to do what I want to do, let me know what you think.
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Feb 23, 2006 4:35 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Last call for Saturday meeting


Wish I were going....hope to see some of you in October in Salt Lake City
 
Mickey from Texas

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I just ran across some documents attributed to letters from the late Jaime Holcombe. One of the documents has some very valuable information regarding one of my lineages (a very important one because I have five lines going back to these people). I know that Jaime Holcombe passed away some years back but I am wondering if anyone is familiar with his work, would know where to get authoratative copies of it (perhaps with sources) as well as if there is an official repositor of his research that I could contact?

The issue I am looking at is the connection between the descendants of Francisco Escobedo, founder of Monte Escobedo and a certain Isabel de Rodas or Isabel de Covarrubias who married a Captain Jacinto Talamantes circa 1630 probably in Zacatecas.

I just ran across some documents attributed to letters from the late Jaime Holcombe. One of the documents has some very valuable information regarding one of my lineages (a very important one because I have five lines going back to these people). I know that Jaime Holcombe passed away some years back but I am wondering if anyone is familiar with his work, would know where to get authoratative copies of it (perhaps with sources) as well as if there is an official repositor of his research that I could contact?

The issue I am looking at is the connection between the descendants of Francisco Escobedo, founder of Monte Escobedo and a certain Isabel de Rodas or Isabel de Covarrubias who married a Captain Jacinto Talamantes circa 1630 probably in Zacatecas.

Well, I will go out on a limb here, and offer a pot of frijoles and
arroz to all who make the trip to DC in summer 2007. I live in Fairfax
County, VA, just across the river from Washington, DC., and I would be
honored to break tortillas with you in my home.

Natalie

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Yolanda
I have a classic olla that I use for cooking my beans.  My
mother-in-law told me to boil water with salt in it until almost gone for
several times before using.  I don't know if my pot has lead in it or not,
but I purchased it in Michoacan, in a village where they are famous for
them.  My mother-in-law and her relatives use these pots all the time to
cook and serve...and they are still living.......
 
But just in case, I found this site you might be interested in:
 
http://www.ranchogordo.com/html/rg_cook_claypots.htm
 
Esperanza

The Hispanic
Conference in Salt Lake City will be held Saturday, October 14, 2006.  I
am expecting to receive the program schedule soon and will post it
then.  In the meantime, I have been informed that the Salt Lake Plaza
Best Western Hotel is now under new ownership. This has caused a price increase
in the hotel rate I had quoted in my previous e-mails. I contacted another
hotel and got good rates there as well.  I am providing both for your
convenience.
 
1.   Salt
Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel changed their price to $82.00 plus tax for a
room for two persons.  (Previously they had quoted $80.00 plus tax for a
room for up to 4 persons.)  Their website is: www.plaza-hotel.com and their toll free
number is: 1-800-366-3684.  You have to mention "Ranchos Genealogy Group"
to get the discounted price since there are a few rooms reserved for us. 
There is NO continental breakfast but they have a nice restaurant that serves a
buffet as well as good menu selections.  Since October is a very busy time
for them I was only able to hold a small block of rooms from October 8th through
October 15th.  You can choose to stay ANY number of days between Oct
8th - 15th.
 
2.  
Howard Johnson Express Inn offered us a rate of $35.00 plus tax (total $39.32)
for a single queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total $55.05) for a
room with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons.  Go to "Google" and type in
"Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their facility as well as
comments made by other guests who have stayed there.  Their toll free
number is:  1-800-541-7639.  Mention my name (Josie Trevino-Trevino)
and "Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special rate. They offer a FREE
continental breakfast and they are about two blocks from the Library. 
There is a free trolley that passes nearby and takes you to the Library if you
do not want to walk.  This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for any
number of days you might need......provided reservations are made EARLY. 

 
Mickey and I have
stayed at both hotels in the past and like them equally well.  The
convenience of the Best Western Plaza Inn is that it is located right next door
to the Library.  Of course, you pay a little more for this
convenience.  The convenience of the Howard Johnson Express Inn is that you
can have your FREE continental breakfast, (coffee, juice, bagels, cold cereal,
etc) in your room and then either walk to the library or ride the free
trolley.
 

Each person will be
responsible for making their own reservations, travel arrangements,
etc
 
Please let me
know if you are interested in going, the number of persons attending, the
dates you will attend, etc.  Mickey and I are planning to arrive there
Sunday, Oct 8th and leave the following Sunday, Oct. 15th.  The Library is
closed on Sundays so we use this as our travel day.  :-) 

 
I am still working
on finding a little space (somewhere) that we can sit down and visit with each
other and exchange information. Any suggestions
are welcome! 
 
Wouldn't it be great if we could grill some fajitas con
cebolla, aguacate y tortillas and eat our tacos as we talk about our
ancestors???
 
Josie in San Antonio
 
 

Hi Esperanza,

My father was born in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico. I have
been looking for relatives or someone who may have known his
relatives there. Does anyone in your family know the Romero or de la
Torre families from that area? My father's name was Ramon Romero,
his parents were Castulo Romero and Sofia de la Torre, his
grandparents were Manuel Romero and Marcelina de la Torre. Sofia's
parents were Jose de la Torre and Elena Romero. A whole lot of de la
Torre's and Romero's. My uncle, Rosendo Romero, and aunt Elena
Romero came to the US between 1920 and 1923. Adolfo Romero and my
father came with them.

Since your foster father came from the same city, I am hoping he may
have known about this family.

Linda

Linda R Romero
romero89@earthlink.net

> Researching: Romero, Hallstead/Halstead, Davis, Hamm, Buell,
> Beltz, Chandler, Burgess, Hitchcock, de la Torre, Hotchkiss, Moore,
> Nichol/Nichols, Phelps, Scott, Sherwood, Trowbridge,
> Barba, Brewster
>

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Maria

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