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Arturo,

Would it be too hard to make the messages posted in the main section be shown in full, instead of having to click the "read more" link?

Also, could you try other fonts to see if the text becomes more readable?

Thanks.

Victor

Hello everyone,



I know change is a challenge for everyone. It is no easier for me to
change from the Yahoo group format to something different, but change
nonetheless is necessary for our survival.



having said that. . .we are going to be making a serious push to
transition over to the new site in the next several weeks. So this is
what I need from you.



1) go to the website and using your Yahoo ID request a password be sent
to you (NOTE: do not start a new account).



2) after you get your password sent to you go back in with your Yahoo
ID and the new password and "LOG-IN."



3) then request a new password if you want or keep the exisiting one,
BUT WHATEVER YOU DO WRITE DOWN YOUR PASSWORD and keep it SOMEPLACE
WHERE YOU CAN FIND IT (and yes I was kind of yelling, did you hear
me???).



4) now after you are logged in I want you to go to "mailing lists" and
subscribe to one or two or all three of them. WHen you do this a group
generated "confirmation" letter will be sent to you. (one for each list
you chose, 3 max). You will have to "reply" to that "confirmation"
email in order for you to be subscribed to the email distribution list.




Let's go with that for now, but



if you are really wanting to dig in for more you can



5) go to "create content" and set up a folder for yourself under "Member
Genealogy Files"

Have a look at Angie Godina's and My folder and try to use this format
just like we had in the Yahoo groups: for example



Angie Godina (aajay1073@yahoo.com)



Joseph Puentes (makas@nc.rr.com; makas_nc)



I would like Peggy, Lourdes, and LongsJourney to
follow this format. . .basically I need this help



and truthfully if it wouldn't be an inconvenience to you all I would
prefer this format:



Joseph Puentes (makas@nc.rr.com; makas_nc)



[[[that is the person's name, followed by their email address, followed
by their ID]]]]]]]]]]



what do you think can we do that.



thanks all and let me know if I can help you. I might be slow at doing
this but I'll get to you all in the order of help needed.



thanks,



joseph

I see that Rosalinda helped Peggy and Mickey here is my help order:



okay here is the new assignment for all: just be patient and I'll be
with you in a short time. don't fret. . .there is plenty of time and
I'll be with you. here is my list of people to help in the order I'll
help when I get home either today or tomorrow from work:



1) Joseph........Like Linda in Everett I, also, am totally
confused!!!   I stumbled around last week with the new website but did
not really know what I was doing......but I did something and am not
sure if it is correct.....PLEASE, when you have time, please, please
check my "account" or "status" or whatever and see if I am ok.....did I
do things right or do I need to do something else?  

 
Thanks~!
 
Josie in San Antonio
Josiett3@satx.rr.com



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Date:	Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:18:04 -0800 (PST)
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Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

Joseph, I just tried to create a file in the format you suggested but I guess I am technically challenged to put it mildly because my file was truncated and only parts of it were visible. I need help in California!! If you could see me now you would see me pulling my hair and yelling, ayuda por favor.

Alicia

Arturo,

Would it be too hard to make the messages posted in the main section be shown in full, instead of having to click the "read more" link?

Also, could you try other fonts to see if the text becomes more readable?

Thanks.

Victor

Thank you, Victor. I will check Gary Felix's page. I have listed on
ybase.org and ysearch.org but have not found any matches. I did find
one close match, from Scotland. The other was Puentes on the
Rancho's Group. Close, but no cigar. I guess I'll just have to hang
around until a match shows up.

Linda

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Emilie--
 
Thanks.  If he contacts me I will let him know.
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: Emilie Garcia
Sent: Mar 6, 2006 5:44 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas

Rosalinda,
 
 It was me, Emilie, who found the SSDI records for Jose's wife's uncle, and I posted that information you saw to the group and I also sent Jose an e-mail at his e-mail address.  I wonder if he has seen that post or my e-mail, since he has not acknowledged them.  I am pretty sure the one I found is the person he is looking for because I traced the family to Arkansas to check birthdates, etc., and I am looking into cemetery records to see if I can find where he is buried. 
 
If Jose contacts you, will you ask him if he ever got my e-mail?  In that e-mail I copied the information that I found on the SSDI.
 
Thanks,
 
Emilie Garcia
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From: lareina2@ix.netcom.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Forgive me, Jose, for the delay in my response.
 
I believe someone located a possible match for your uncle in a previous Ranchos message, but here is the Texas Death Index:  http://vitals.rootsweb.com/tx/death/search.cgi . Rootsweb also has the California Death Index : http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi and the Social Security Death Index : http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi .  Not all states have an online index.  Another website to check is http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ .  That website requires a user name and password; if you pick up the xerox copy I made for everyone at the meeting, I list them there.  This site is more difficult to handle, but once you do, it can be very helpful.  It's just cumbersome.
 
I think the H. Duff found is probably your best match, based on your family's knowledge.  As I said in a previous Ranchos message, you need to be an acceptable legal party to obtain a copy of the death certificate in the state of Texas; otherwise, the state will only confirm a death date.  I learned this the hard way.  You have to wait until 25 years after the death has passed before you may obtain a death cerificate.  Check this website: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/default.shtm to see if your wife qualifies as niece of the deceased.  This is not true in California, just so you know.

I was more than happy to make you welcome, Jose.  I know meeting a new group of people is overwhelming, but I knew we would be a great bunch of people.  I wanted to speak more to you about what you had; maybe at the next meeting.  It was a pleasure to meet all of my online cousins, even if we haven't identified a relationship yet.
 
Rosalinda
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-----Original Message-----
From: zendean
Sent: Feb 27, 2006 7:24 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Rosalinda; What a peach to write back and try to help me  with Harold E. Duff /AKA " H.E. Duff". I know that he was living in Texas when he wrote to his sister Ruth Frances. She said that he was reallly well off and his mansion in Austin seemed the size of a city block in Maywood, Calif. No, I am not sure that he died in Texas, I just assumed. I am sure that he died in the 1980's because Patsy and I had not been married too long when his sister Ruth Frances was so sad that he died. At the time, not having met him and just new to the family, I didn't think to ask for details. You know "not the right time" and all. Rosalinda, how do you check a "death index" ? Is there a site in every state ?
 
  Also, When I came to the meeting last Saturday I felt odd at first and thought that I should maybe leave . How very, very sweet of you to be so kind as to welcome me and make me welcome. I know that you probably did it for all that came, but it ment a lot to me. Thank you, Rosalinda.
 
With respect,
 
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Feb 24, 2006 2:31 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Jose Luis--
 
I looked him up in the Texas Death Index, but there does not appear to be a match.  Are you sure he died in Texas, and is the name correct?
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: zendean
Sent: Feb 24, 2006 10:43 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mickey in Texas


Mickey;
   My wife had an uncle named Harold Duff, of Austin Texas. He was an oil man who did very well and lived there in Austin by a lake. He died and now all the people that were related are dead. I want to find him and add the details of his death to our genealogy records. Mickey, who would I contact there to get some information, like what is the name of the Austin news paper, local funeral homes etc. He may have died then was buried next to the rest of his family in Arkansas. He had a big mansion in Austin and some some property in Mexico.
  If you or anyone else could give me some concrete leads to help, I would appreciate it very much. He died in the 1980's in Texas. If you can think of any other way to do what I want to do, let me know what you think.
 
Jose Luis Macias


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Sent: Feb 23, 2006 4:35 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Last call for Saturday meeting


Wish I were going....hope to see some of you in October in Salt Lake City
 
Mickey from Texas

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Mickey;
   My wife had an uncle named Harold Duff, of Austin Texas. He was an oil man who did very well and lived there in Austin by a lake. He died and now all the people that were related are dead. I want to find him and add the details of his death to our genealogy records. Mickey, who would I contact there to get some information, like what is the name of the Austin news paper, local funeral homes etc. He may have died then was buried next to the rest of his family in Arkansas. He had a big mansion in Austin and some some property in Mexico.
  If you or anyone else could give me some concrete leads to help, I would appreciate it very much. He died in the 1980's in Texas. If you can think of any other way to do what I want to do, let me know what you think.
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Feb 23, 2006 4:35 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Last call for Saturday meeting


Wish I were going....hope to see some of you in October in Salt Lake City
 
Mickey from Texas

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I just ran across some documents attributed to letters from the late Jaime Holcombe. One of the documents has some very valuable information regarding one of my lineages (a very important one because I have five lines going back to these people). I know that Jaime Holcombe passed away some years back but I am wondering if anyone is familiar with his work, would know where to get authoratative copies of it (perhaps with sources) as well as if there is an official repositor of his research that I could contact?

The issue I am looking at is the connection between the descendants of Francisco Escobedo, founder of Monte Escobedo and a certain Isabel de Rodas or Isabel de Covarrubias who married a Captain Jacinto Talamantes circa 1630 probably in Zacatecas.

I just ran across some documents attributed to letters from the late Jaime Holcombe. One of the documents has some very valuable information regarding one of my lineages (a very important one because I have five lines going back to these people). I know that Jaime Holcombe passed away some years back but I am wondering if anyone is familiar with his work, would know where to get authoratative copies of it (perhaps with sources) as well as if there is an official repositor of his research that I could contact?

The issue I am looking at is the connection between the descendants of Francisco Escobedo, founder of Monte Escobedo and a certain Isabel de Rodas or Isabel de Covarrubias who married a Captain Jacinto Talamantes circa 1630 probably in Zacatecas.

Well, I will go out on a limb here, and offer a pot of frijoles and
arroz to all who make the trip to DC in summer 2007. I live in Fairfax
County, VA, just across the river from Washington, DC., and I would be
honored to break tortillas with you in my home.

Natalie

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Yolanda
I have a classic olla that I use for cooking my beans.  My
mother-in-law told me to boil water with salt in it until almost gone for
several times before using.  I don't know if my pot has lead in it or not,
but I purchased it in Michoacan, in a village where they are famous for
them.  My mother-in-law and her relatives use these pots all the time to
cook and serve...and they are still living.......
 
But just in case, I found this site you might be interested in:
 
http://www.ranchogordo.com/html/rg_cook_claypots.htm
 
Esperanza

The Hispanic
Conference in Salt Lake City will be held Saturday, October 14, 2006.  I
am expecting to receive the program schedule soon and will post it
then.  In the meantime, I have been informed that the Salt Lake Plaza
Best Western Hotel is now under new ownership. This has caused a price increase
in the hotel rate I had quoted in my previous e-mails. I contacted another
hotel and got good rates there as well.  I am providing both for your
convenience.
 
1.   Salt
Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel changed their price to $82.00 plus tax for a
room for two persons.  (Previously they had quoted $80.00 plus tax for a
room for up to 4 persons.)  Their website is: www.plaza-hotel.com and their toll free
number is: 1-800-366-3684.  You have to mention "Ranchos Genealogy Group"
to get the discounted price since there are a few rooms reserved for us. 
There is NO continental breakfast but they have a nice restaurant that serves a
buffet as well as good menu selections.  Since October is a very busy time
for them I was only able to hold a small block of rooms from October 8th through
October 15th.  You can choose to stay ANY number of days between Oct
8th - 15th.
 
2.  
Howard Johnson Express Inn offered us a rate of $35.00 plus tax (total $39.32)
for a single queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total $55.05) for a
room with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons.  Go to "Google" and type in
"Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their facility as well as
comments made by other guests who have stayed there.  Their toll free
number is:  1-800-541-7639.  Mention my name (Josie Trevino-Trevino)
and "Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special rate. They offer a FREE
continental breakfast and they are about two blocks from the Library. 
There is a free trolley that passes nearby and takes you to the Library if you
do not want to walk.  This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for any
number of days you might need......provided reservations are made EARLY. 

 
Mickey and I have
stayed at both hotels in the past and like them equally well.  The
convenience of the Best Western Plaza Inn is that it is located right next door
to the Library.  Of course, you pay a little more for this
convenience.  The convenience of the Howard Johnson Express Inn is that you
can have your FREE continental breakfast, (coffee, juice, bagels, cold cereal,
etc) in your room and then either walk to the library or ride the free
trolley.
 

Each person will be
responsible for making their own reservations, travel arrangements,
etc
 
Please let me
know if you are interested in going, the number of persons attending, the
dates you will attend, etc.  Mickey and I are planning to arrive there
Sunday, Oct 8th and leave the following Sunday, Oct. 15th.  The Library is
closed on Sundays so we use this as our travel day.  :-) 

 
I am still working
on finding a little space (somewhere) that we can sit down and visit with each
other and exchange information. Any suggestions
are welcome! 
 
Wouldn't it be great if we could grill some fajitas con
cebolla, aguacate y tortillas and eat our tacos as we talk about our
ancestors???
 
Josie in San Antonio
 
 

Hi Esperanza,

My father was born in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico. I have
been looking for relatives or someone who may have known his
relatives there. Does anyone in your family know the Romero or de la
Torre families from that area? My father's name was Ramon Romero,
his parents were Castulo Romero and Sofia de la Torre, his
grandparents were Manuel Romero and Marcelina de la Torre. Sofia's
parents were Jose de la Torre and Elena Romero. A whole lot of de la
Torre's and Romero's. My uncle, Rosendo Romero, and aunt Elena
Romero came to the US between 1920 and 1923. Adolfo Romero and my
father came with them.

Since your foster father came from the same city, I am hoping he may
have known about this family.

Linda

Linda R Romero
romero89@earthlink.net

> Researching: Romero, Hallstead/Halstead, Davis, Hamm, Buell,
> Beltz, Chandler, Burgess, Hitchcock, de la Torre, Hotchkiss, Moore,
> Nichol/Nichols, Phelps, Scott, Sherwood, Trowbridge,
> Barba, Brewster
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Just a reminder that the Northern Cal meeting is scheduled for this
Saturday, March 4th at 11:30. All the past participants have been
notified and have received copies of the agenda. Any other interested
parties, please direct your questions directly to me: mcortez3@gmail.com

Thank you,

Maria

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Natalie; The first meeting, as is so common, was a just "get to know everybody" type. I just was so happy to put faces on the names. It is now more fulfilling to see Peggy Delgato's name (example) and know her as a real person that I have met and spoken to. Once the ice is broken, the subsequent activities can be planned with more confidence and with people you "know". For me, it was especially nice to meet Deena Ortiz. We had a common interest and it was nice to share a moment.
Between you and me, the food was so good and there was so much of it !

I think that there will more meetings everywhere, now that this one has set the stage here in So. calf.

I wish you happiness,

Jose Luis Macias

-----Original Message-----
>From: Natalie
>Sent: Mar 2, 2006 3:58 PM
>To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ranchos] So Cal meeting - a question
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>I've looked at all the messages regarding the SoCal meeting - but
>haven't found information regarding the proceedings of the meeting
>(except for the wonderful lunch the rest of us missed; excuse me for
>drooling). What was the agenda? What things were discussed? Could
>someone please share some insights into what went on in the meeting,
>what you got out of it, and if you will schedule another. Thanks for
>sharing.
>
>Natalie in VA
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I had a great conversation with a great guy who was a Vietnam Vet, like myself. I came away with information more valuable than a link to my family. The food was great and the conversations were equally facinating. But Olivia's husband (really great and interesting guy) told me about the VA hospital and registration for the disability benefits. Olivia, please thank him for me.
   There is a bond that has been born within this group that the meeting at Olivia's house helped to cement. Olivia, please accept my most sincere thanks for hosting this event.
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes
Sent: Mar 2, 2006 4:50 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] So Cal meeting - a question

Hi Natalie,
You'll probably hear more from others who attended, but I'll give you my take on the meeting.  Unfortunately, I was still busy in the kitchen when people started to arrive so I wasn't able to hear what everybody had to say.  I do know that as each person arrived, they were instantly involved in a "what's your family line" conversation. 

We followed a rather loose agenda.  At the start the focus was more on meeting each other and getting somewhat familiar with the specific areas we each are researching.  Everyone brought records and some books, so a lot of the time was used matching up similar ancestors.  Rosalinda was of tremendous help because she is very familiar with various methods of researching online, as well as some methods/techniques used at the various research centers, i.e., NARA, Family History Centers, local libraries.  Some who had communicated online, continued discussions previously started, but which now were helped along by being able to share information in person.  Rosalinda and a few others brought along some of the books that provide historical information as well as  records information - Ronnie Reynoso had a copy of Jose Luis' book on Nochistlan, Zac, and Rosalinda (if I remember correctly) had  a book on marriage dispensations as well as other items she shared with the group.  Rosalinda also handed out a sheet on which was printed quite a few beneficial web sites.  

People started arriving exactly at 11:30 and the last person left at about 4:00 p.m.  Almost the entire time was spent in discussion.  Lunch was served about 1:30, but even then my husband had to kinda bully people away from their conversations and to the meal. 

Olivia
Natalie <nc_coleman@yahoo.com> wrote:

I've looked at all the messages regarding the SoCal meeting - but
haven't found information regarding the proceedings of the meeting
(except for the wonderful lunch the rest of us missed; excuse me for
drooling). What was the agenda? What things were discussed? Could
someone please share some insights into what went on in the meeting,
what you got out of it, and if you will schedule another. Thanks for
sharing.

Natalie in VA

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Any Rancho members planning to attend the following conference?

March 18: MAJOR EVENT: Hispanic Family History Conference, Riverside
George Ryskamp, BYU Center for Family History & Genealogy
Classes by Spanish/English, Prof. Ryskamp and BYU students

Saw this listed in the Somos Primos table of contents (posted o/a Mar
1, '06)- check Somos Primos for details (I guess).

Natalie

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Joseph,
 
I just loved your story.  It reminded me of one I would like to
share.
 
I was raised by foster parents from Jalisco, my foster mother was from
LaBarca while my foster father was from Tepatitlan.
 
He worked for Santa Fe, the graveyard shift, she was a stay-at-home
mom.  Our eating routine usually started with "leche con pan dulce" for
breakfast.  We came home to a hot meal every day (she wasn't the best cook,
but it was always good and substantial).  When we got home from school, we
did chores, homework, etc.  Then she would serve her husband his own meal
(always different from what she served us or herself).  We would always
wonder why he got the "special" looking stuff, but dared not ask.  Later,
we would eat something light, like tostadas, and right before bed we would have
our pan dulce with our leche.
 
One night, when my foster father was working and my brothers were out
playing (I was never allowed to go out and play, as I had to be chaperoned at
all times), I saw her eating fish.  She was eating it with such delight,
and I asked to taste it.  She let me taste it, but I did not like it. 
This was one of the first times that I had ever seen her eat or
prepare fish - she said it reminded her of childhood, but did not
elaborate.
 
Now that left an impression upon me, because fish was expensive and not
necessarily readily available in Chicago (fresh) during those days, nor did we
ever get fish when we went to Jalisco visiting family.  Just recently, I
learned that her father was a fisherman - he used to fish at the Laguna de
Chapala.  It saddened me that she would prepare special meals for
her husband and separate meals for herself and us. 
 
I am wondering if anyone else had a similar ritual when they grew up? 
Can anyone tell me why pan dulce was served right before bedtime and a light
supper provided? 
 
Esperanza

I was searching the NARA site (www.archives.gov/) and came across
this bit of information that may be of interest to those who reside
in So. California:

Genealogical Workshops at NARA's Pacific Region
(Laguna Niguel, CA)

All classes begin at 9:30 AM and are held at NARA's Pacific Region,
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October 18: Naturalization and Immigration Records
This course examines immigration and citizenship records, emphasizing
procedural changes from 1790 to the present as well as methods for
locating both naturalization records and passenger manifests.

October 27: Preserving Your Family's History
Participants in this workshop will learn basic methods for organizing
genealogical records and preserving photographs, historical
documents, and other treasured heirlooms.

November 1: Introduction to Genealogical Resources
For beginners and those who want to brush up on their basic skills,
this workshop addresses the use of Federal census, passenger arrival,
naturalization, and military records as well as basic reference works.

November 9: Introduction to Military Records
This workshop will explore basic military resources for genealogy
relating to American military actions from the Revolutionary War
through the conflicts of the late 20th century.

November 15: Naturalization and Immigration Records

November 30: Introduction to Genealogical Resources

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Natalie in VA

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What a sweet story, Joseph.  Darn it!  A reminder
that I have to put the stories down that I hear.  I need to make time....

 
Funny.  My parents would always make nopales en
ensalada--(cooked nopales with chopped raw onions, cilantro, tomatoes &
chiles serranos or jalapenos-- probably what your mom cooked for your dad or was
it  different?  I didn't learn about nopales with
chile and carne de puerco, until recently from a co-worker whose family was from
Chihuahua.  When I asked my mom about this.  She responded, that isn't
a dish from Chihuahua.  We make it in Jalisco too, but you know how your
dad is about pork.  He's not fond of pork, but makes the best
carnitas.  Go figure...
Irma

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From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:06 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Olivia's "Nuestra Vida"
Project


easy, just start a few catagories like the ones I suggested and have
people send in their stories related to each in relation (somehow) to their
relatives who came from our target area. In the story below you have my mom who
was from El Paso and my dad born in Santa Paula, but the influence--my
grandmother-- was from Jalisco. .

for example my mom used to make
nopales in the plain style without chile sauteed after being boiled even though
from her childhood she liked the style of them being cooked in a chile sauce.
Why did she do that? Well because my grandmother who was born in Las Animas,
Santa Maria de Los Angeles, Jalisco, was a strict mother-in-law when it came to
the wifes of her beloved sons (anyone else ever hear of how much the mothers
loved their sons?) and though this marriage survived until death did part them
there were other marriages from my uncles that didn't because of the macho
domineering type of attitude the sons of my grandparents had about how they
should be cared for by their wives. In my marriage my wife doesn't cook for me.
. .she just cooks. And for that matter when I sometimes cook I don't cook for
her I just cook. but that wasn't the case in my parents lives. I think I said to
the group before that one day I caught my mom eating her nopales with chile not
many months after my dad died. And she was crying while she ate them. I asked
her why she was crying and she said that she was eating nopales the way she
liked them. I didn't understand and asked for an explanation. She said my father
liked them plain and for all the years she had been married to him she hadn't
eaten them like she liked them with chile because she knew he liked them plain.
Now as she was eating them her preferred way with chile it reminded her of his
death.

it was different customs and ideas and traditions that produced us
and Olivia taking the reins of a project like this is extremely important. I
don't know if you know folks or subsets of the Ranchos group personally but if
you could gather some oral history that would be great. Oral history especially
when its just stories of what happened during a time of youth are full of the
customs and traditions that influenced us today.

basically we would need
to take stories like above and put them into each catagory and upload them into
folders on the new site. No sense if we are going to "soon" be moving over to
the new site to build anything new on the Yahoo
site,

joseph



Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes wrote:

You're a great sales person Joseph.  I'd be more than happy
to oversee this.  I just have to figure out how and what I'm doing. 


Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes
Rowland Heights, CA

Joseph
Puentes <makas@nc.rr.com> wrote:

Olivia
Jaurequi-Reyes wrote:

> I know that our first and foremost task as
a Ranchos member is the
> research of our families, but I think it
would be interesting to look
> at the various family
customs/traditions that have been passed down
> through the
generations, including the different foods and their
> variations. Is
anyone else interested?

names are just a brief part of what our
research should be about. I
would much rather only know our great
grandparents and know all the
little details of their lives that they
passed onto our grandparents so
we could have a much better picture of
the things that influenced why we
were taught what we were
taught.

Yes please do start a recipe area in the files, start a
customs area in
the files, start a music area in the files, start a
cuentos area in the
files, start a baile area in the files, start a ????
in the files. But
remember we are aiming at Jalisco, Zacatecas and
Aguascalientes. Even
though we aim at that target area doesn't mean
we'll always hit it, but
with a steady aim we should hit it more often
than not.

Thank you Olivia you have found your niche in the Ranchos
group,
oversite of the "Nuestra Vida" project. . . i appreciate you
taking over
this part of our research by volunteering to be in a
complete overview
position of this new path. . . .that is what you just
volunteered for
isn't it????

thanks,

joseph

ps: Now
do you see the posibilities? If this new path takes off and
becomes
popular we can eventually create a new email list for these kind
of
postings. That way if the few in the group that are not really
wanting
to read this type of posting they can choose not to subscribe to
that
mailing list. That, THAT is what Arturo was trying to accomplish
when he
created the multiple mailing lists within the Nuestros Ranchos
site. .
.diversity and the ability to choose content. Thanks Arturo for
your
foresight and great webmaster skills.

>
>
> wlm27mhm
wrote:
>
>
> All this yummy food,
did we ever do a collection of recipies to
> share? Hilda
> --

I am over at the National Archives looking up border crossing records and am having no luck finding El Paso crossings from 1916. Does anybody know if these crossings are available on microfilm anywhere? The college student staff member who is working here tonight told me that those years for El Paso are not filmed... but I want to make sure.

On a brighter note, Chris Pineda, I have found the border crossing records for your great-grandparents Nicanor Pineda and Emilia Gonzalez. I will scan them and send them to you.

I've looked at all the messages regarding the SoCal meeting - but
haven't found information regarding the proceedings of the meeting
(except for the wonderful lunch the rest of us missed; excuse me for
drooling). What was the agenda? What things were discussed? Could
someone please share some insights into what went on in the meeting,
what you got out of it, and if you will schedule another. Thanks for
sharing.

Natalie in VA

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Well it is that time again............time to do your shopping and get ready for Capirotada. Tomorrow is fat Tuesday as they say in New Orleans but for "nosotros los Mexicanos" it is time to prepare for Ash Wednesday. Not only do we prepare capirotada but we begin to prepare all the other lenten meals which means meatless pero muy sabroso.   Today we purchased el pan bolillo at the panaderia La Sonorense. Tomorrow we slice the bread lengthwise and toast it in the oven. Hubby diced all the dried fruit today to use for the capirotada. He shelled the peanuts and will toast them tomorrow. He went to Supermercado Mexico today and purchased Canela, piloncillo, tomatillos, queso Oaxaca and we will be ready to roll tomorrow.   For the rest of the meal we bought nopales, dried favas which in spanish are habas and the dried, powdered shrimp. We will make tortas de camaron con nopales en mole rojo. We will shell
and clean the favas and boil until soft, then will saute with chopped onions, minced garlic and diced fresh tomatoes. In the morning we have one very light breakfast as this is a day of fasting which means you have lighter than usual meals. For lunch we will have the favas and for late afternoon the tortas de camaron con nopales y mole rojo. Will have the family over in the late afternoon to share a meal and a prayer and then off to church for Ash Wednesday.   These are my family's traditions from Tlachichila Zacatecas.   Happy Fat Tuesday to all........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

Okay folks I would like to EMPHASIZE that you all should be carefully
checking out the http://nuestrosranchos.org website. It won't be very
very long before we start a push toward making the full transition over
to the new site. Arturo has built a great website that has everything
that the Yahoo group had that we were using. If I were you I would mosey
over there and click on a few links and upload a few files and join the
forums and reply to the confirmation emails and upload some pictures and
basically experiment around.

For those of you that feel comfortable with the sites features why not
go to the Yahoo Website and see what you have in your "genealogy
folder." Then make a duplicate folder for yourself on the new site. No
sense in rushing but this will be good practice and Arturo has made it
so easy that I would like everyone to learn how to use these features of
the new site. Don't worry Arturo and I and Rosalinda will be here to
help you if you need help.

thanks for your patience and participation,

joseph

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