Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes

Alicia,

I too have recently traced some of my husband's ancestors (some Esparzas too) to Rincon de Romos:

Maria Francisca Reyes Roman, baptized 06 APR 1782, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Maria Maxima Duron Reyes, baptized 1792 Puerto Del Marquez, Aguascalientes
Maria Olaya Duron Reyes, baptized 1787 Pabellon, Rincon de Romos
Maria Vicenta Duron Reyes, baptized 13 APR 1785 San Jose De Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Petra Paula Reyes Roman, baptized 1784, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Maria Josepha Duron Reyes, baptized 04 MAY 1775, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Felis Antonio Duron Esparsa, baptized 27 FEB 1748, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes
Joseph Jasinto Duron Esparsa, baptized 25 SEP 1746, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes
Augustina Duron Abalos, baptized 25 NOV 1715, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes
Patricio Martin/Maria Maxima Duron Reyes, married 12 FEB 1814, Pabellon, Rincon de Romos
Felis Duron/Maria Josepha Reyes Roman, married 17 JAN 1773, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Franco. Duron/Maria Secilia Esparza, married 04 OCT 1745, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes

I had ordered the films for Aguascalientes (for $5.95 each) and was waiting for them when they told me that my FHC here in town would be closing up at the end of this month, and orders cancelled and films being held on loan will have to be sent back. I checked out another FHC in a nearby town which will charge me $6.00 each and told me they don't have room to keep films longer than four weeks. I too was anxious to start my research in Aguascalientes, but I will have to wait. There is also now the matter of the cost of gas to drive out of town.

I think I have seen that Aguascalientes website that Ernie Alderete (NathanJones) was talking about. There is also another that has pictures of the Colonial buildings including Pabellon

See: http://www.aguascalientes.gob.mx/Estado/Rincon.aspx

http://www.aguascalientes.gob.mx/idiomas/ingles/history/exhaciendas/hac…

When I went with my parents to Mexico in the early 1960s, I remember passing through Aquascalientes on the way to Jerez, and I remember thinking it was a pretty town with several colonial buildings.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---

Tlaltenango History Books

There are a number of books written by a local historian in Tlaltanango,
Zacatecas by the name of Bernardo Carlos Casas:

Tlaltenango : una ciudad amurallada (1986)

Semblanza historica de la parroquia de Tlaltenango : 1544-1991 (1991)

Historia de Colotlán (1991)

Has anyone ever seen or read these books? Does anyone know of any other
microhistories of the towns in the “three-fingers” region of Jalisco or
of Southern Zacatecas?

Escribanos de Jerez y Tlaltenango

I just found this going through the Archivo General de la Nacion index. There was a discussion last week about finding out who were the escribanos and how they worked. I am pretty sure that each escribano was given a jurisdiccion where he was responsible, so this confirms that in the early 1700s there was an escribano assigned to Jerez y el Valle de Tlaltenango, which at that time, I believe was considered a single municipal entity, split in half by Colotlan which was under a military government under the direct jurisdiccion of the Viceroy of New Spain, i.e. not Nueva Galicia:

The escribano until 1741 was Manuel Antonio Suarez and after 1741 was Nicolas Pardo y Figueroa. Neither of these names appears in the Archivo Historico de Jalisco's list of escribanos.

Clave de Registro 107653
No. Grupo 45
Grupo Documental Escribanos
Fecha ABRIL 18 - NOVIEMBRE 16 DE 1741
Volumen 12
Expediente 13
Fojas 301-312v
Descripción RENUNCIA. AUTOS HECHOS SOBRE LA RENUNCIA DE DON MANUEL ANTONIO SUAREZ, AL OFICIO DE ESCRIBANO PUBLICO Y DE CABILDO DE LA VILLA DE JEREZ Y VALLE DE TLALTENANGO EN LA PROVINCIA DE LA NUEVA GALICIA, A FAVOR DE DON NICOLAS PARDO Y FIGUEROA, EL CUAL SE LE REMATA EN 500 PESOS, CUYA TERCIA PARTE PAGARA A LA REAL CAJA. VILLA DE JEREZ (Y) VALLE DE TLALTENANGO.

hi...again!

I was absent for the last month due to personal issues, but after a while i'back!

Last week I'd gone to the Family History Center here in Montpellier but unfortunately it isn't ready yet, they are trying to install all the programs and told me to come back in two or three more months, this is so sad because now I have time and I cannot search anything :(

In the other hand I have a question, the woman there told me that I have to request the film and it would take 1 month or so in arrive to France, then I have 3 months for consulting it, of course only the days they can (3 days a week), perhaps I got something wrong, but I tought that I'd have the film here for longer...how does it work?

Thank you and greetings from France!!

Monica

Family History Archive

I was confused. I thought that Family History Archive search engine was
the Digitizing projects first efforts. The reply from that project below
seems to set the record straight:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Family History Archive/NFU Podcast
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:46:39 -0600
From: Cali O'Connell
To: Joseph Puentes

Joseph:

There are two separate projects. The Family History Archive (hosted
through the Lee Library website) is an archive of digitized family
histories. We are cooperating with the Family History Library in Salt
Lake City and most of the books you see there are actually from their
collection. But the scope of this project is intended to include only
family histories.

It sounds like the project you are talking about is the one sponsored by
the Family History Library in Salt Lake City which will include
digitizing of lots of microfilm, etc. You can probably find more
details on www.lds.org.

Sorry for the confusion!

Cali O'Connell

Library Donor Relations

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From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@nc.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:01 PM
To: Cali O'Connell
Subject: Family History Archive/NFU Podcast

I have a question about the Family History Archive. Is this the search
engine for the "early" results of your Mammoth Digitizing effort for the
Family History Library? I understood that it will take 6 years to
complete, excluding new material that will come in during that time. Am
I correct or is this a totally different project?

I am hoping that you will be including much more material on Mexico
soon. I was hoping for the archives to hold material on the church
records for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, and
Chihuahua. Is there any idea at all when they will start digitizing the
Mexico Church films?

thanks,

Joseph Puentes
makas@nc.rr.com
http://nuestrosranchos.org
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com

ps: would you be interested in being interviewed on this topic for my
podcast on Latin American History and Genealogy?
(http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com)

Cultural websites

Here are some sites of possible general interest:
http://www.latino.si.edu
(not all information is current)
http://www.folkways.si.edu/projects_initiatives/latino_english/home.html
http://www.folklife.si.edu/index.html
(of interest if you plan to be in Washington, DC June 30-July4, and July 7-11; updated details to be posted in May)
www.mfacmchicago.org (read about exhibit of African presence in Mexico from Yango to present)

Have a good week.
Natalie in VA

WildCards ???

I'm trying to get the hang of Using WildCards in doing searches on
www.familysearch.org

I'm very thankful to Victor Villarreal for the great tutorial on
WildCards to be found in the "Files" under "Reference Material" under
"Searching the IGI"

. . .but there is one thing I'm just not getting, which probably means
I'm missing some main point in this WildCard search scenario.

when I do a parent search for my GGG grandparents I put in the father's
first name: "Cipriano" and then his last name "Puente" then under the
mother I put in only the first name "Eduarda" and I get these all these
relatives:

You searched for:
Father: Cipriano Puente, Mother: Eduarda

1. JOSE MARIA PUENTE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 NOV 1847 Santa Maria De Los Angeles, Jalisco,
Mexico
2. GENARA DE LA TRINIDAD PUENTE TORRES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 JUL 1817 Santa Maria De Los Angeles,
Jalisco, Mexico
3. MARIA DEL REFUGIA PUENTE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 26 FEB 1835 Santa Maria De Los Angeles,
Jalisco, Mexico
4. CECILIO PUENTE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 MAY 1843 Santa Maria De Los Angeles, Jalisco,
Mexico

Okay now I decided to substitute a WildCard for the father's first name
"Cipriano" and I entered this WildCard % instead. I was expecting to
get the above results AND some others or at the very least just the
above results repeated, but instead i got:

You searched for:
Father: % Puente, Mother: Eduarda
International Genealogical Index / Mexico (No Matches)

I would like to understand what I'm missing. Shouldn't this WildCard
search have returned at least the same results as above with maybe a
"few" more additions?

thanks,

joseph

Digitized LDS Films Online

I was told this morning by a Mormon Elder that the digitizing of the films in the Salt Lake City Repository is proceeding well. A process begun two years ago.

He told me that the first digitized films will be online shortly, and that they will be closing many Family History Centers, consolidating them since everything will be online soon. The remaining consolidated FHC's will be mostly for people without Internet access.

I was informed that the second Beta testing of the new software to view the films is nearing a successful conclusion.

I was told volunteers are needed who read Spanish to help index the digitized films. If you volunteer you can work from your home.

He said it took twenty years to index the 1880 census, so the indexing of the huge LDS film collection will take longer than the actual digital filiming.

I could not pin him down on how soon is soon, but I would not be surprised to see original documents online later this year.

This will of course, be an incredible leap forward for our purposes, and genealogy in general.

WorldCat ???

Who in CA has access to WorldCat? Please look up this ISBN number
(below) and send me the list of California Libraries that carry the
book. My access to WorldCat for some reason only gives a partial list of
the libraries that carry books and then it only gives the locations here
in NC and moves out. Most times when a book is located in several
hundred libraries i only get East Coast results.

if so can you do a search of this ISBN: 0292706286 for this book:

Moctezuma's Children-Aztec Royalty Under Spanish Rule, 1520-1700.
Author Donald E. Chipman ISBN 0-292-70628-6
Donald E. Chipman is Professor Emeritus of History at the University of
North texas in Denton.

I'm interested in what CA libraries carry it

joseph

Migrants Reshape Villages with ideas del Norte

This happens to be my native town in Zacatecas and yes you too can belong to one of these clubs. Great place to get hometown stories, meet family and yes maybe even make a contribution.

Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

Migrants Reshape Villages With Ideas del Norte
--------------------

By Sam Enriquez
Times Staff Writer

April 16 2006

Workers in the United States helped pay for the grand boulevard leading
into town, a four-lane thoroughfare whose center divider is planted
with palm trees and roses. A large sign declares in Spanish: Migrants,
this is your home.

The complete article can be viewed at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/remit/la-fg-straddle16apr…

Visit latimes.com at http://www.latimes.com

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/remit/la-fg-straddle16apr…

Book Search: Sotelo

I'm trying to find out who knows anything about this book. Please
contact me directly: makas@nc.rr.com

"Sotelo, Fundador del Apellido en Nueva España"

This book is supposed to be used as a source by Salvador Cabral Valdez.
I'm wondering if anyone on the list is in contact with him? If so I
would like to find the name of the author and double check on the
correctness of the title. It seems I can't find it anywhere on WorldCat
or Amazon.com and that is very unusual.

joseph

[Fwd: FW: Pilgrimage and Meeting of Los Bexarenos]

>From: "larry kirkpatrick"
>To: elindio2@hotmail.com
>Subject: FW: Pilgrimage
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:12:37 -0500
>
>Notice of Regular Meeting of Los Bexarenos
>
>The next meeting of Los Bexarenos Genealogical Society will be on Saturday,
>May 6, 2006 at the Central Library at 600 Soledad in San Antonio. The
>meeting will begin at 9:30am in the first floor auditorium. Refreshments
>will be served. Admission is free and everyone is invited.
>
> The speaker will be Dr. Alonso M. Perales, an educational
>support
> and research consultant. He spoke to the group about a
>year
> and half ago on a genealogical family. His subject will
>be on
> Native Americans of South Texas. Dr. Perales will
>present his
> paper on The Indigenous Cultures of South Texas and
>Northern
> Mexico (A Review of the Literature). The paper was
>delivered
> before the Alliance for the Advancement of Indigenous
>Cultures
> of Corpus Christi.
>
> A Fulbright Scholar in Applied Linguistics, Dr. Perales
>was
> assigned to the Universidad Central in Quito, Ecuador and
>to
> Universidad de Guayaquil, Ecuador.
>
>******************************************************************
>If you would rather not receive these notices from Los Bexarenos, please
>send a message to elindio2@hotmail.com
>******************************************************************
>
>
>
>>From: "robert and sylvia garcia"
>>To: "'Larry & Yolanda Kirkpatrick'"
>>Subject: Pilgrimage
>>Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:47:36 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Subject: Laying of Wreath in front of Alamo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Larry,
>>
>>
>>
>>At the April 1 monthly meeting of the Los Bexarenos Genealogy Society,
>>the
>>President of the Society encouraged the membership to participate in the
>>annual pilgrimage to the Alamo scheduled for April 24, 2006. He stated
>>that
>>we should make "a statement" by our participation in this event.
>>
>>
>>
>>Please forward the attachment to our membership as a reminder of the date
>>and time of the pilgrimage.
>>
>>
>>
>>Let's all attend...we need to participate and be a part of this symbolic
>>ceremony.
>>
>>
>>
>

Nucmc: Manuscript Search Lib Congress

http://www.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/

Have a look at this search engine for one of a kind Manuscripts. Also
look at a search database called Archives USA.

Just as an example i did the OCLC simple search and got the following
entrie amoug many many for the words: "Zacatecas" and "Jalisco."

don't know where this one is but looks very very interesting:

Author: Magallanes, José Yrineo.
Title: Family papers, 1776-1901.
Description: 57 folders.
Notes: Papers of José Yrineo Magallanes and his sons,
Mariano, Francisco and Juan, relating to the sale,
inheritance, or transfer of lands and estates mainly in
Tlaltenango and Jérez, province of Zacatecas, Mexico.
In Spanish.
Subjects: Land tenure -- Mexico -- Zacutecas (Province)
Control No.: ocm25865776

and

Author: Sánchez, Prisciliano, 1783-1826.
Title: Prisciliano Sánchez collection, 1822-1851 (bulk
1825-1827).
Description: 330 leaves.
Found In: Genaro García Collection.
Notes: Forms part of: Genaro García Collection.
Lawyer, businessman, political leader, legislator
and governor. Born 1783 in Ahuacatlán, Nueva Galicia
(present state of Nayarit), died 1826 in Guadalajara,
Jalisco, Mexico. Prisciliano Sánchez received a law degree
in 1810. As a businessman in Compostela, he gained popularity
as a local political leader. In 1822 he was elected deputy to
the first national congress, in 1823 to the first constituent
congress, and in 1824 to the first legislature of the state
of Jalisco. In 1825 Sánchez became the first constitutional
governor of Jalisco. In 1826, while still governor, Sánchez
died of an illness resulting from an injury to his hand.
Printed material, correspondence, financial and
legal documents, reports, notes, and assorted materials
relating to Prisciliano Sánchez' political career, his
death, and his last will and testament. García manuscripts
G422 and G422-1 through G422-6 consist of materials
concerning Sánchez' career in government, including
broadsides, nine booklets and pamphlets, proclamations, notes
about legislative sessions and other matters, a letter book,
and a communication to the provincial military concerning
law, politics, and government in the Mexican state of Jalisco
from 1822 to 1826. G422-7 contains reports on an Indian
rebellion in 1825. G426 comprises Sanchez' will, an inventory
of his belongings, financial documents pertaining to the
disposal of his possessions and payment of expenses, decrees
relating to the mourning of his death, funeral prayers and
eulogies, official letters of condolence, and other official
and legal documents pertaining to his death and will.
García, Genaro, Heirs of; purchase; 1921.
Castañeda, Carlos E. and Jack Autrey Dabbs,
eds., Guide to the Latin American manuscripts in the
University of Texas Library. Cambridge, Mass., Harvard
University Press, 1939.
Also available on microfilm, Benson Latin
American Collection.
Prisciliano Sánchez Collection, 1822-1851,
Benson Latin American Collection, General Libraries,
University of Texas at Austin.
Subjects: Sánchez, Prisciliano, 1783-1826 -- Archives.
Jalisco (Mexico : State) -- History --
1821-1861.
Jalisco (Mexico : State) -- Politics and
government -- 1821-1861.
Other authors: García, Genaro, 1867-1920, collector.
Control No.: ocm31795819

and

Author: Parra, Francisco.
Title: Conquista de la Provincia de Xalisco, nuevo reyno
de Galicia y fundacion de su capital, Guadalaxara. Narracion
poetico-sencilla distribuida en XXXI cantos, 1805-1810.
Description: Originals : 800 p. ; 22 cm.
Copies : partial microfilm reel (400 exposures) :
negative (Rich. 102:4) and positive.
Notes: An epic in 31 cantos of 10 octaves each by a
member of the Dominican Convent of Rosario in Guadalajara,
describing the Spainish conquest of Jalisco and also the
founding and development of Guadalajara, during the period
1530-1547. There are notes following the majority of the
cantos and three appended prose summaries listing
respectively the presidents of the province through 1805, the
bishops of the See to the time of Ruiz de Cabañas, and the
cities and towns of the Intendancy.
Copy of the original Ms. rescued by José
Fernando Ramírez during the 1861 disturbance from the
Dominican library in Mexico City and deposited by him in the
library of the Museo Nacional. A foreword, apparently in the
hand of Ramírez, describes the original and states that two
preliminary pages were lost.
Also available on microfilm.
In Spanish.
Forms part of the Hubert Howe Bancroft
Collection.
Subjects: Guadalajara (Mexico) -- History.
Jalisco (Mexico) -- History.
Poems. rbgenr
Other authors: Ramírez, José Fernando, 1804-1871.
Bancroft, Hubert Howe, 1832-1918. Collection.
CU-BANC

and

Author: Anaya, Juan Pablo, 1785-1850.
Title: Juan Pablo Anaya Papers, 1810-1911.
Description: 8 in.
Found In: Genaro García Collection.
Notes: General and politician. Born 1785 in Lagos,
Jalisco; died 1850 in Mexico City. Veteran of the Mexican War
of Independence; aided the United States against the British
in Carolina. Deputy to the national congress (1821). General
Brigada de los Ejércitos Nacionales (1824). Comandante
General for Chiapas (1828). Brigadier General and General de
División (1832). Ministro de Guerra (January 8-30, 1833) in
the administration of president Gómez Pedraza. Governor of
Tabasco (Nov. 17, 1840-Dec. 6, 1840). Comandante General de
Sinaloa and Sonora (1847). Jefe del Ejército del Ocidente
(1847). Involved with construction of a railroad from Mexico
City to Veracruz (1848). Relieved of command December 27,
1848, and became subject of investigation concerning his
reduction of the customs tax.
Correspondence, printed materials, financial and
legal documents, and literary productions concerning Anaya's
military and political career. Papers of his wife, Mercedes
Jaime de Aguirre, and daughter, Gila Anaya, include
correspondence, financial, and legal documents, mostly
relating to Anaya's military pension. Newspaper clippings
concern the construction of the railroad from Mexico City to
Veracruz.
Forms part of: Genaro García Collection.
García, Genaro, Heirs of, purchase, 1921.
Also available on microfilm, Benson Latin
American Collection.
Castañeda, Carlos E. and Jack Autrey Dabbs,
eds., Guide to the Latin American manuscripts in the
University of Texas Library. Cambridge, Mass., Harvard
University Press, 1939.
Juan Pablo Anaya Papers, 1810-1911, Benson Latin
American Collection, General Libraries, University of Texas
at Austin.
Subjects: Anaya, Juan Pablo, 1785-1850 -- Archives.
García, Genaro, 1867-1920 -- Archives.
Jaime de Aguirre de Anaya, Mercedes, 1807-1886.
Anaya, Gila, 1837-
Mexican War, 1846-1848 -- Sources.
Texas -- History -- To 1846 -- Sources.
Railroads -- Mexico.
Mexico -- History -- 1821-1861 -- Sources.
Mexico -- Politics and government -- 19th century

Good Cause Book Sale: Microfilming Project

here is a message from Susanna that she wanted me to approve first. I
wholeheartedly support this kind of fund raising:

Primo:

I just talked on the phone with Samuel Sanchez Garcia. He told me that his
group (Sociedad Genealogica del Norte de Mexico) is trying to collect funds
for a microfilming project for the North of Mexico. For that reason, they
reached an agreement with PORRUA EDITORES to sell previously out-of-print
books, or limited edition history books on their website. The books appear
in their website:
http://www.genealogia.org.mx/home/default.asp

All of them are very interesting for a genealogist. They are history
books for all Mexico. The prices are 20 dollars each book. They are
selling several items on their website, but he told me that if you really
want to help to buy books because a 100% of the money collected from the
sale of these history books goes to the microfilming project. They will
let us know when their goal has been met. Some of the books are for
example:

1. Historia de las divisiones territoriales de Mexico
2. Historia de los Indios de la Nueva Espana
3. Historia Antigua de Mexico

Their website again is:
http://www.genealogia.org.mx/home/default.asp

He told me that they were having some technical problems with some of the
links but by tomorrow everyone can buy books. You can look at the catalog
today.

I thought you were the ideal person to formally invite all the members of
our group to look at their website. If these books are of interest then a
double benefit of historical information and making more information
available in the future is served.

Thank-you

Tu prima Susana Leniski

New boyon the block. Nuevo chavo en este sitio.

I wanted to say hello to all my fellow geneaologists on this fine website.

My name is Ernie Alderete and I live in Monterey Park in suburban Los Angeles, California.

My GEDCOM will be uploaded shortly. I am working to corroborate it as far as possible, and to expand my knowledge of my ancestry and ancestors.

I have already learned many new things in just half an hour on this site. That I have Basque ancestry, for instance, through my ancestor Lope Ruiz de Esparza in Aguascalientes, Mexico and his family in Pamplona, Navarra.

I am equally proud of my Spanish and Mexica heritage.

My late father always told me we were descended from Emperor Moctezuma himself. I remember laughing at my father. I thought it was a fairytale. I wish he was alive today so I could apologize to him and share with him the incredible discoveries I've made over the last year, or two.

When my genealogical backtracking lead me to PETRONILA MOCTEZUMA who was born in 1550 in Aguascalientes I just about fell out of my chair. My father was right!

I have started a Moctezuma DNA Project to try and verify all of our Montezuma background genetically, as well as by the paper trail.

I also have an Alderete DNA Project with similar goals. To corroborate and expand my research in that field.

I am the administartor of the Alderete and Moctezuma surname lists on RootsWeb.

I look forward to hearing from many of you, and meeting someday.

I arrive in Chihuahua, Chihuahua in October to work on my family tree and collect DNA samples as well as visit family and friends.

I hope to visit Aguascalientes in person sometime after that.

Hablo castellano, pero mi primera lengua es ingles.

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma

http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete

Las Primeras mujeres que pasaron a Nueva España

I came across this link that lists the first Spanish women to come to Mexico (Nueva España) during the first quarter of the XVI century. It was written by Juan Francisco Maura, Associate Professor in Spanish at the University of Vermont.

http://parnaseo.uv.es/Editorial/Maura/ConclusionYapendices.pdf

I wasn't able to add it to the links section.

Maria

SCGS Genealogical Jamboree, May 6 2006

I received this from one of the groups I subscribe to. I thought it might
be of interest to those Ranchos members who reside in California.......

Josie

From: Donie Nelson
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:59:32 -0700

On Saturday, May 6, 2006 at 2pm at the SCGS Genealogical Jamboree in
Burbank, CA at the Burbank Airport Hilton Hotel Donie Nelson will be making
the following presentation:

Nuestras Raices (Our Roots): Finding Your Ancestors in the Hispanic
Southwest

If you have Hispanic ancestry and believe your roots are buried in the
American Southwest, this presentation offers your specific trailmarkers,
maps, and waystations to ease your journey. Whether you are a tenderfoot or
already blazing trails, her presentation offers you helpful tools for
digging up your family¹s past or discovering new paths to reach your
destination.

Donnie has been compiling information for Hispanic genealogists for years,
but Ms nelson knows there is much more out there. In order to provide as
much information as possible, she need your assistance. If you have any
information you can send me via email or fax or snail mail on the following
topics, please do
so:

Websites or pages

Historical groups

Genealogical societies

Books

Periodicals

Libraries

Special collections

Do not assume that she already know about any of this material. She would
rather have duplicates than omit a valuable reference.
Everyone who
makes a
contribution will be sent a copy of the full list of Resources that will be
a handout during her presentation.

She look forward to your assistance,

Donie A. Nelson
10736 Jefferson Blvd., #690
Culver City, CA 90230-4969
310/839-3140
310/839-3985 (fax)

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History of Hacienda Santiago de El Cuidado (Tepetongo, Zacatecas)

I have just posted in the files section a document by Leonardo de la Torre Berumen that is basically a compilation of the microhistory (people and events) surrounding the foundation of the Hacienda de El Cuidado in what came to be Tepetongo, Zacatecas.

It includes a name index of early settlers of the area from Jerez parrish registers.

Copying Equipment

Joseph:

The equipemt being used at the Murrieta, Ca. Family History Center is:
Canon Microfilm Scanner 300, coupled to an HP compaq computer with an HP Laser Jet 1320 Printer.
Almost any PC can be used, including laptops. A memmory stick or a CD can be used to take the records home and viewing them at your leisure on your own PC.

I was told that the same equipment is available at quite a few of the FHC's

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.

FW: Salt Lake Plaza Hotel At Temple Square

I received this today from the director of sales and marketing at the Plaza
Best Western in SLC. We have been allowed ONLY 6 rooms, Mickey and I will
be sharing a room so that leaves 5 rooms for the Ranchos members. Keep in
mind that I previously sent you info on the Howard Johnson Express Inn where
the rates are a lot better. The Plaza Hotel is next door to the FHC Library
so we are paying for the convenience.

Please let me know if anyone is interested in staying at the Plaza Hotel.
Mr. Williams has attached a contract as well as a "free" offer of a
seminar.......for a minimum of 10 persons attending....

Thanks!

Josie

_____

From: Rich Williams [mailto:sales@plaza-hotel.com]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:39 AM
To: josiett3@satx.rr.com
Subject: Salt Lake Plaza Hotel At Temple Square

Dear Josie,

I hope you are doing well.
I have attached for your review your contract for October,
If you have any questions feel free to call me.

Best Regards,

Richard Williams
Director of Sales & Marketing

Salt Lake Plaza Hotel At Temple Square
122 West South Temple
Salt Lake City, UT 84101

Direct: 801-606-2410
Toll Free: 800-366-3684 ext. 3007
Fax: 801-322-5057
e-mail: sales@plaza-hotel.com
www.plaza-hotel.com

Notario Films Project

Dear Nuestros Ranchos researchers,

I just went to the Guadalajara section of the FHL catalog and counted
how many films are in the Notario Section ( México, Jalisco, Guadalajara
- Notarial records
)
There are 1,241 films. As far as I know they are just listed by date and
some give the name of Notario and no information is given as to what
locations they cover. I've understand that these films are a wealth of
information for us, but almost impossible to access since we'd have to
be ordering films and guessing as to which might cover our specific area
or research.

1) Does anyone know if there is a better catalog description for these
films anywhere?

2) Look at the example given below. See the notario named: José María
Anguiano Does anyone know how to research this specific notario? See if
we knew that he only covered Lagos de Moreno and San Juan de los Lagos
then any films by him should identified to those places.

3) I'm thinking of making some of these films into a project. Imagine if
everyone in the group ordered one film. And if all they did was scroll
from beginning to end giving the Area the film covered. Yes I think it
would be nicer if they could pull out the main surname of the person the
record was about, but at least the area being covered. If we got 62
volunteers to do one film each then that would be a whopping 5% of the
films in this Notario Collection. What if a few of us dug into this and
did 3 per year for the next 10 years and we got a few people both inside
and outside the group rolling on this, hey maybe we could have 10-20% of
these films described a little better within our lifetimes so future
generations would be more likely to look at them. Just imagine the 5th
generation of the Nuestros Ranchos group members thinking way way back
to the group as we know it now and thanking us for being willing to
start a work that we might not be able to benefit from. What do you guys
think? I for sure don't want to start something that someone else has
already done, but how do we find if this information is already
available? And if it is already available how do we get the FHL to
associate this info with these specific films?

Joseph Puentes
http://nuestrosranchos.org
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Title
Registros notariales, 1892-1900

Authors
Guadalajara (Jalisco). Notaría (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilm de manuscritos en el Archivo de Instrumentos Públicos en
Guadalajara.
El escribano de estos protocolos es José María Anguiano.

Subjects
México, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Notarial records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1959

Physical
2 rollos de microfilm ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Protocolos 1892-1893,1896 - VAULT INTL Film [ 269810 Items 3-6 ]
Protocolos 1892-1900 (documentos) - VAULT INTL Film [ 269756 ]

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