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Does anyone know how to access baptismal records between 1730 and 1745 for
Nochistlan? #0226649 is suppose to have 1730 to 1750 but it only has
1745-1750 (correctly reflected in batch #.
I am looking for descendents of Geronimo de Jaureui and Josefa Ximenes, who
married 4 Jun 1732. I have located 2 descendents Antonia Filomela , bap 27
Jul 1746, and Juaquin Leonardo, bap 3 Dec 1750, in Nochistlan. There are at
least 2 more, Juana Maria and Maria Teresa (my 5ggm).

*Alguien sabe como localizar la informacion de bautismos para 1730 a 1745
para Nochistlan? El #0226649 esta supuesto de tener 1730 a 1750, pero no
mas tiene 1745-1750 (esta correcto en la informacion the batch#). *
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*Busco los hijos de Geronimo de Jauregui y Josefa Ximenes, casados 4 jun
1732 en Nochistlan. He encontrado 2 hijos, Antonia Filomela, baut. 27 jul
1744, y Juaquin Leonardo baut. 3 dec 1750, en Nochistlan. Hay a lo menos
dos mas, Juana Maria y Maria Teresa (mi 5ggm). (Haga el favor de perdonar
mis errores en espanol). *

I am asking for researchers opinions and supporting records for the paths of Sernas Origin in these areas.

The lines I have in my database of 3000 people, from 1790 to 1900 which is 95% + only from the Calvillo, Ags. church records.

The Sernas of My Direct lines early records came from Agostadero and Arroyo de Soto Settling in Media Luna. Some settled in La Presa. I have seen some documents indicating some movement between Teocaltiche, Jal. & Villa Hidalgo, Jal. which is another area of concentrated Serna Families.
I have almost no evidence of Origin refering to Ags.,Ags. but I have never reviewed the Aguascalientes records. While Ags. became a direction of settlement. In my case the earliest data seems to be in the "Black Hole" records of Tabasco, Zac. Huanusco,Zac. Jalpa, Zacatecas. I have been unable to decide what direction to continue research when future records become available. Notchistlan,Jal. ? Villa Hidalgo, Jal. Tepatitlan, Jal. Or Tabasco & Huanusco, Zac.

If John Schmale, Daniel Menedez C. , Rose Hardy or anyone else has contibutions I would be happy to hear it.

Estoy pidiendo opiniones de los investigadores y expedientes favorables para las trayectorias del origen de Los Sernas en estas áreas.
Las líneas que tengo en mi base de datos de 3000 personas, a partir la 1790 a 1900 que es el 95% + solamente del Calvillo, Ags. expedientes de la iglesia.
Los Sernas de mis líneas directas expedientes vino temprano de Agostadero y de Arroyo de Soto Settling en los medios Luna. Algunos colocaron en el La Presa. He visto algunos documentos el indicar de un cierto movimiento entre Teocaltiche, Jal. & Hidalgo del chalet, Jal. cuál es otra área de las familias concentradas de Serna.

Tengo poca evidencia de la referencia temprana al Ags., Ags. en mi caso los datos más tempranos parecen estar en el " Hole" negro; expedientes de Tabasco, Zac. Huanusco, Zac. Jalpa, Zacatecas. He no podido decidir qué dirección para continuar la investigación cuando los expedientes futuros están disponibles. Notchistlan, Jal. ¿? Hidalgo del chalet, Jal. Tepatitlan, Jal. O & de Tabasco; Huanusco, Zac
Si Juan Schmale, Daniel Menedez C., Rose Hardy o cualquier persona otra tiene contibutions, me alegaria de oírlo.

I was able to get a copy of my maternal grandfather's
(Telesforo Valades Cruz) baptismal certificate. He was born Jan. 5, 1866 and baptized at El Senor Del Encino Parish on the same day. The certificate gives the names of his parents: Guillermo Valades and Maria Del Refugio Cruz. It also gives the names of his paternal and maternal grandparents. His paternal grandparents were Manuel Valades and Ciriaca Marchan. His maternal grandparents were Macsimo Cruz and Maria Gertrudis Segovia. I wanted to pass on this information in case anyone else was doing any research on these names.

Maria

Can anyone tell me the batch numbers baptisms for Cuquio for 1813 onwards? Thanks! In case anyone needs them, the ones from 1747 to 1813 run in sequence from c602704-c602709, ie -4(1747-58), -5(1758-72), -6(1789-96), -7(1797-1801), -8(1801-1809), -9(1809-1813).

Hi,
I am researching the Guerrero surname, particularly that of my maternal grandfather, Nicolas Valdez Guerrero.

He was born 26 January 1898 in Yahualica, Jalisco Mexico. His family lived in Guadalajara when my grandmother married him in 1917 in Superior, Arizona.
He worked for Magma Copper Co. until his death in 1953. He is buried in Superior, Arizona.
I want to find information on his family, Parents & Siblings. I know that his father was named Jesus Guerrero.
I have searched records provided by Family Search & the Family History Center located in Tucson, Az but I have not been able to find any information so far.

I know he had a brother who was a priest, I just don't have a name.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Barbara Guerrero

I would like for you all to take ALL discussions that center around Race
or Ethnicity to the general list: general@nuestrosranchos.org

I would prefer that many of these topics be quickly taken to private email.

Quisiera que TODAS las discusiones que se centran alrededor de la raza o
de la pertenencia étnica a la lista general: general@nuestrosranchos.org

Preferiría que muchos de estos asuntos estén llevados rápidamente el
email privado.

joseph

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I am looking for any History on Antonia Ruis Spouse of Florencio Serna
Or any info that could help me break through this point.

The Genealogy is as Follows

Descendants of Florencio Serna

Generation No. 1

1. FLORENCIO1 SERNA He married ANTONIA RUIS.

Child of FLORENCIO SERNA and ANTONIA RUIS is:
2. i. GABRIEL2 SERNA, d. Bet. 1832 - 1853.

Generation No. 2

2. GABRIEL2 SERNA (FLORENCIO1) died Bet. 1832 - 1853. He married CATARINA FRAUSTO, daughter of LARA. She died Bet. 1832 - 1853.

Children of GABRIEL SERNA and CATARINA FRAUSTO are:
3. i. NARCISO3 SERNA, b. Abt. 1800; d. Abt. 1867.
ii. NORBERTO SERNA, b. Abt. 1805, R. de los Sernas, Jalpa, Zac.; d. 09 Mar 1868, Arroyo de Soto, Calvillo, Ags.; m. RAMONA CERVANTES, 25 Feb 1834, San Jose, Calvillo, Ags.; b. Abt. 1808.

More About NORBERTO SERNA:
Confirmation: San Jose, Calvillo, Ags.

4. iii. GUADALUPE (FRAUSTO) SERNA, b. Abt. 1806.
5. iv. MACEDONIO SERNA, b. Abt. 14 Sep 1814, Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa Del Refugio, Zacatecas.
6. v. YDELFONSO SERNA, b. Abt. 1820.

       Dear Group,
       This research done on my maternal grandmother, Agustina Santelices, was done  through FHC microfilms and their online resources.  I've never found a connection with 
       anyone in the group, but I  remind myself that we hear from only a small portion of our approximate  400 members.  Being a novice, and not as knowledgable as our active members,
        I'm hoping that some of the following names will make a connection.   Any help or advice,
        is very welcome.  
     
      My maternal grandmother Agustina Santelices was married to Luis Onate.
      I've been unable to find any information on either their marriage or the Onates.  None of my
      known family members are interested in genealogy, so like many of you, I've
      had to do this on my own. 
 
      Agustina Santelices  born 05/25/1886  Vetagrande, Zacatecas  daughter of:
      f.  Francisco Santelices    m. Maria Valderrama  married 04/20/1882 Panuco, Zac
    
      Paternal Side:
      Francisco Santelices                b.  ?  Can't find this info   
      f. Jose Maria Santelices           b. 09/18/1801 Queretero, Queretero
      gf. Juan Fermin N Santelices   b.  date unknown, Santander, Castilla, Spain
      gm. Maria Luisa Sepulbeda      b. date unknown, San Juan Del Rio (all it said. Queretero?)
      ggf.  Tomas de Santelises        b.  nothing known, but probably Spain
      ggm.  Antonia Ybanes               b.  nothing known, probably Spain
      ggf.  Jose Gregorio Zepulbeda b. nothing known
      ggm.  Maria Manuela Morales   b. nothing known
 
      Jose Ma Santelices and Ma Agustina Rubio  married 04/12/1823  Santiago, Queretero
      Ma Luiza Sepulbeda and Juan Fermin Santelises married 02/27/1793  Queretaro, Que
 
      Francisco Santelices                  b.   ?
      m. Maria Agustina Rubio            b.  05/05/1806  Tequisquiapan, Queretero
      gf.  Domingo Antonio Rubio       b. 04/08/1765  Huichapan, Hidalgo, Mexico
      gm. Juana Lizundia                     b.  ?
      ggf Domingo Rubio                     b.  ?
      ggm Petra de Anaya Villagran   b. ? 
 
      
      Maternal Side of Agustina Santelices:
      m.   Maria Valderrama               b.  ?
      g f.     Manuel Valderrama          b.  ?
      gm.  Maria Amada Diaz             b.  ?
      ggf.  Jose Camilo Balderrama  b.  07/14/1779  Asientos de Ibarra, Aguascalientes
      ggm  Rafaela Valdez                  b.  ?
      gggf.  Juan Manuel Balderrama   b. ?
      gggm. Maria Nicolasa Calderon  b.?
      ggf.  Pilar Diaz                             b. ?
      ggm. Juana Lozano                     b. ?
 
      Thank you so much for your consideration and I hope to hear from you soon.   Alice
 
     
     
       
      
 
       
 
 
 
     
 
 
 
 
     
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For John P. Schmal:
re: "Lucretia Calvillo"

John, the only Lucretia I have come across near your time line 1750-1805 is:
Petra Lucrecia CALBILLO Luna,
bap 30 Nov 1744, Ags, Sag, Bau 1742-1743, Image 247
hija leg de Cayetano CALVILLO
y Maria de los Santos, yndios

Casada con Joseph Antonio GOMES, mulato
hijo natural de Ysabel GARSIA
12 May 1759, El Sag, Ags Mat 1758-1769, Image 56
Here Petra Lucrecia is listed as mestiza.
I don't know of any children, and have done no research on them

Her parents: Cayetano CALBILLO Torres, mulato
born c. 1708, Puesto de las Burras, Guanajuato
hl de Nicolas CALBILLO y Petra TORRES
and
Juana Maria de los Santos LUNA, coyota
born c. 1728, Puesto de San Joseph de los Dolores en la nueba españa, obispado de Mechoacan;
hl de Agustin LUNA y Pasquala Hilaria DE LA CRUZ
their MARR INFO: Ags, Sag Info Mat 1743, Image 313-315
Cayetano was 35, and Juana Maria was 15

One of the witnesses to the MARR INFO was Don Santiago NIETO, esp, 36, who states that Cayetano has worked for him for more than 10 years, and previously was in the service of his father Don Manuel NIETO,and that Juana Maria worked in the household of Don Santiago's father-in-law Don Francisco de SANTA CRUZ.
The suegro Don Francisco de SANTA CRUZ also appears as a witness to state that he has known the pretenso for more than 14 years, in Guanajuato and in Ags.

Hope this is of some help.

Gloria Delgado

Dear Alice,

I tried and located the following information. I hope it helps you.

Maria Luisa Sepulbeda married Juan Fermin Sante Elises 27 Feb 1793 Nuestra Señora De Los Dolores, Dolores Hidalgo, Guanajuato, Mexico film #0710685, M607828 (1787-1825.

David in Albany, CA

David P. Delgado

I have added a marriage record between Apolonio Cortez and Dionicia Herrea in my folder. Can someone please help me transalte this marriage record. I'm having a hard time reading it.

It's out in my folders which is "Cortes, Maria (Matansas, Ojuelos de Jalisco, JAL; Desmonte de Gonzalez, Ocampo, GTO)" and it's called "Cortez Marriage record"

Thanks

Maria Rangel del Peguero,(la esposa de Diego Romo de Vivar,Genearca de los Romo de Vivar)como, tal vez, la mayoria de los españoles que vinieron al nuevo mundo tenia ascendentes judios varias generaciones atras.

-MARIA RANGEL DEL PEGUERO, LA ESPOSA DE DIEGO ROMO DE VIVAR, FUE HIJA DE:
-"ALFERES" JUAN RANGEL DE VIEZMA, HIJO DE:
-LUCIA VELAZQUEZ DE SALAZAR, HIJA DE:
-"ENCOMENDADOR DE TAJIMAROA, MICHOACAN" JUAN VELAZQUEZ DE SALAZAR, HIJO DE:
-CATALINA DE LA CADENA Y MALUENDA, (ESPOSA DEL"Primer Factor de la Real Hacienda nombrado por Carlos V" GONZALO DE SALAZAR )CATALINA FUE HIJA DE :
-"Juez de las Arcadas de Sevilla" Pedro de Maluenda, HIJO DE :
-"Tesorero" Hernando de Maluenda HIJO DE :
-"Regidor" Alvar Rodríguez de Maluenda HIJO DE:
-Maria Nuñez, hija de
-Isaac Ha Levi,(casado hacia 1350 con una conversa que adopto el nombre cristiano de "Maria").Isaac fue hijo de
-Abraham Ha Levi.

.

Today I found a marriage record that reminded me how it takes more than one record to have accurate information abt locations especially if you take the info from what's online.

I know when I was working on family records from Tamazula Jalisco I found a batch online that said they were born in San Vicent, Carribean but in reality it was San Vicente, a barrio in Jalisco.

I just came across another place I'm hoping the group can help with. The marriage record reads:

marriage 7 Nov 1838 in Monte Escobedo
Jose Ysidro Minjares age 25 from El Rancho del Pino
parents: Visente Minjares and Tecla Sanches
spouse: Maria de Jesus Bermudes age17 from San Jose de la Trinidad Tobago Carribean
source: 1158237 Monte Escobedo marriage record

Has anyone else found the Carribean to be a correct place during this time period?

The other records associated with this family also say they are from Agua Zarca, some read Guanajuato and others Agua Zarca, Zacatecas. Are any of you familiar with which is correct?

thanks for the help to make my records accurate
Linda in Marrieta

Can anyone confirm whether Joseph Dias Tiscareño married to Jacinta Ortega, is the son of Baltazar Diaz and Beatriz Tiscareño (daughter of Luis T. and Lorenza R.de E) born on May 24th 1663? Also, does anyone has additional information on Jacinta?

Jaime Alvarado

alguien tiene estos nombres en sus arboles?

Hablando con mi tia me dijo que encontro el acta de bautismo de mi abuela Maria de Jesus De la Torre. En el acta tiene que los abuelos de Maria de Jesus son Leonardo De la torre nacido 1849 en Huejuguilla, zac y Emeteria Rodriguez nacida 1852 en Huejuguillazac . Leonardo y Emeteria se casaron el 21 de Noviembre de 1874 en Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas.

Conforme a familysearch.org

Padres de Leonardo De la Torre son:
Ramon De la Torre
Maria Felix

Padres de Emeteria Rodriguez son:
Nabor Rodriguez
Jesus Garcia
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Tambien me dijo el otro apellido de la mama de mi abuelo Bartolo, y es Josefina Gonzalez Samaripa.Josefa es de Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco

gracias,
Isabel

Does anyone have info on Bartolome Alonso de los Hinojos he was born ca. 1665 in Aguascalientes
or Lagos de Moreno. He married Juana Gallegos. Bartolome should be a grandson of Capitan
Pedro Alonso de los hinojos and Ana-Magdalena Dominguez; based on the time frame. I recently
found out a city in Spain is called LOS HINOJOS. So this might be the origin of whom ever XXXX name
Alonso was from LOS HINOJOS. And combined their last name as ALONSO DE LOS HINOJOS, a possibility.

Thanks,
Daniel

While on the topic of the Gallegos family: I have this family, Bartolome Alonso de los Hinojos born ca. 1665 in Aguascalientes who married Juana Gallegos sometime ca. 1690. Juana Gallgos was from Santa Maria de los Lagos. She is sometimes seen as Juana Gallegos (her son ManuelAlonso de los Hinojos' marriage; my ancestor) then in the death of her son Francisco she lis listed as Juana de Amador, also in most of her children's baptism Amador is dominant.Then in her daughter Maria's death she is listed as Juana Gutierrez. All her kids were born in Lagos de Moreno. I know for a fact this is the same Juana! I have studied her kids. Bartolome is always listed as Bartolome Alonso de los Hinojos. I wonder if Juana is a relative of Gabriel Gallegos, she could be a daughter? I just dont know how she used many last names!
Juana Gutierez de Amador Juana Gutierrez Juana de Amador Juana Gallegos.
Regards,
Daniel
Any help?

Hello,

Does someone have a resources that shows the military muster rolls for Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico in the 1600's?

I am trying to find information on a Captain Bartolome de los Reyes Cervantes.

Thanks,
Angel R. Cervantes

Hi, I am still new to this great group! I would like to find out how to transfer my family trees from ancestry.com to my account with Nuestro Ranchos. Or does Nuestros Ranchos have a similar easy method to create family trees like ancestry.com? I hope I used the correct forum, if not, I apologize. Thank you.

Maria

I have been researching my family from Zacatecas. My great grandfather was Manuel de la Torre (1810) married Maria Altagracia Mejia(1815) on Jan. 1833, in Tepetongo. Their children Casimiro de la Torre(1844) and my grandfather Nicolas de la Torre (1846) married Mariana Sanchez(1850) married on April 1875. My grandmother Mariana 's parents were Cornelio Sanchez (1820) and Maria Refugio Ramirez(1822)
I cannot find Manuel de la Torre's parents. I have reached a roadblock. If anyone has info I would appreciate it.

Ma de los dolores was bap 5may1712 in jalos. Her parents are anastacio gomez H de mendoza Leal de Ayala and beatriz de la torre ledesma casillas.
I do not have his info except that they were married 19nov1730 in jalos. I have her tree for many generations.
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Hola a todos los compañeros del foro, me gustaria saber si alguien tiene informacion de la dispensa matrimonial de Francisco Gutierrez de hermosillo y de la mora zamora y Dolores Gomez de mendoza, ya que yo cuento con el acta matrimonial de estos y menciona que tiene dispensa por una parentesco consangineo de cuarto con segundo grado si alguien sabe algo agradecere mucho la informacion

Our first Conference turned out to be a great success, thanks to Helyn
Sparkman's tireless efforts, as well as the cooperation of Alicia Carrillo,
Martin Perez, Kitty Cortez and the wonderful cast of speakers.

There were a number of people who were interested in attending, but for
various reasons were not able to. Many of those interested parties are from
the Los Angeles, CA area and have expressed an interest in having the next
conference there. We are more than willing to consider holding the 2011
Conference in the Los Angeles area, but to do so would require a resident of
that area to help us secure a location and help with the logistics. I want
to ask any of you living in the Los Angeles area if you would be willing to
undertake that responsibility? Please let me know ASAP because we'd like to
begin planning as early as possible. I would also like to get an idea of the
number of people interested in attending and/or being a Speaker. It will
most likely be held n April or May 2011.

En Español:

Nuestra primera Conferencia fué un gran exito, gracias a los esfuerzos
incansables de Hely Sparkman, y la cooperación de Alicia Carrillo, Martín
Pérez, Kitty Cortéz y los oradores excelentes.

Hubieron varias personas que estaban interesadas en atender, pero por algún
motivo u otro no pudieron. Muchos de ellos radican en el area de Los
Angeles, CA y han expresado interés en que la proxíma Conferencia se realize
en el area de Los Angeles. Para poder satisfacer esta petición
necesitariamos que algún residente de esa area nos ayudara encontrar el
lugar y con todas las logísticas necesarias para el evento. Hay alguien que
este dispuesto a hacerse cargo de esta responsabilidad? Por favor
comuniquense conmigo lo mas pronto posible. Tambien me gustaria saber a
cuantos de Ustedes les gustaria atender y/o ser oradores. Lo mas probable
es que el proximo año va a ser en Abril o Mayo de 2011.

Maria Cortez

My third great grandparents Jose Guadalupe Jimenez and Ramona Olivera immigrated from Tamazula Jalisco to Coalcoman Michoacan in the year 1897. They were married on 15 JUL 1881 San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco, Mexico. Does anyone have more info ?

Hola a todos los compañeros del foro, me gustaria saber si alguien tiene informacion de la dispensa matrimonial de Francisco Gutierrez de hermosillo y de la mora zamora y Dolores Gomez de mendoza, ya que yo cuento con el acta matrimonial de estos y menciona que tiene dispensa por una parentesco consangineo de cuarto con segundo grado si alguien sabe algo agradecere mucho la informacion

Every summer the SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION sponsors the SMITHSONIAN FOLKLIFE FESTIVAL. They have done so every year since 1967. Every year they have had a different program. (You can see a list of past programs here: http://www.festival.si.edu/past_festivals/year.aspx )

The following is from the mission statement:
"The Smithsonian Folklife Festival is an international exposition of living cultural heritage annually produced outdoors on the National Mall of the United States in Washington, D.C., by the Smithsonian Institution's Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage.

The Festival takes place for two weeks every summer overlapping the Fourth of July holiday. It is an educational presentation that features community-based cultural exemplars. Free to the public, like other Smithsonian museums, each Festival typically draws more than one million visitors."

The festival takes place on the National Mall (between the Washington Monument and the Capitol) and this year the festival will take place June 24-28 and July 1-5, 2010. (The festival exhibits and entertainment are free.) General festival information can be found here:

http://www.festival.si.edu/index.aspx

For 14 years I volunteered for the Folklife Festival - always a lot of fun, but was not able to do so last year because of health issues (I hope I will be able to volunteer this summer - even if just for a few days).
This summer's program includes: 1) Smithsonian Inside Out; 2) Asian Pacific Americans; and 3) Mexico
Details of the MEXICO program (partly in celebration of the Revolution Centenary) can be found here:

http://www.festival.si.edu/2010/mexico.aspx

I hope you have the time to read about the festival and about some of the participants that will be coming from various parts of Mexico. If anyone plans to visit Washington DC this summer, try not to miss this.

Natalie