Saldivar records in Jerez

Marge,

just wanted to let you know that incorrect connection to Jose Saldivar was to Andrea Rafaela Ortega and Jose Saldivar, parents of Valentin Saldivar (abt 1767) is a different Jose Saldivar.
I have corrected it and will add Juana Delfina Sanchez as her correct first wife, with Maria de la Lus Ortiz being the second wife.

I really appreciate your help in keeping the records correct.

Linda in Marietta

Presentations from the Nueva Galicia conference this weekend

I wanted to thank Helyn, Maria, Kitty and everyone else who went to great lengths to organize what turned out to be a great conference and a great reunion of wonderful people and adept genealogists.

Having failed to have handouts for my presentation, I have posted them online on Nuestros Ranchos. Kitty Cortez's and Stanley Lucero's presentations are also in the same folder.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18530

Thanks again to the organizers and it was a pleasure meeting all of the attendees and putting faces to so many names I had known only over the internet.

Guadalajar Books

Primos,

We have: Chavez Hayhoe, Arturo. Guadalajara en el Siglo XVI Tomos I & II.
1991. $69.00.

Profits from the sale of these books support the Hispanic Heritage Project and
it efforts to digitize Spanish Colonial Archives in Mexico. See our web site
www. hh-p.org for more information.

Carlos Yturralde

Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz (Juana Ines AsbajeRamirez)

I have her father as pedro manuel Asbaje Vargas Machuca. And her mother as Isabel Ramirez Arellano
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I recall reading in a genealogy book that Sor Juana de la Crus was a Descendent of one of the founders of los altos de jalisco. I did not write down the source nor did I follow up on this. My daughters class is going to study her life next week and I suddenly became curious as to her relationship to our ancestors. Has anyone any information on her genealogy and how she is related to the people from loos altos de Jalisco?

Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz (Juana Ines Asbaje Ramirez)

I recall reading in a genealogy book that Sor Juana de la Crus was a Descendent of one of the founders of los altos de jalisco. I did not write down the source nor did I follow up on this. My daughters class is going to study her life next week and I suddenly became curious as to her relationship to our ancestors. Has anyone any information on her genealogy and how she is related to the people from loos altos de Jalisco?

Leticia reynoso ( ayuda)

Hola lety,

no sabia que tu esposo es ese muchacho que dice xalos 68

bueno tu sabes que ya puedes ver los archivos de chihuahua por el internet con imagenes como si estuvieras en un centro de historia familiar?

si no sabes como yo te digo. y lo que veo en tu archivo es que tienes muchos nombres pero faltan muchas fechas . con los nombres que tienes puedes empezar a trabajar desde tu casa en el internet si sabes del family search pilot?

leticia Reynoso (AYUDA)

Hola, Tengo a Maria contreras que nacio en 1902 y se esta casando a los 17 anos en 1919 con carlos terrazas   Moro      . especificamente el 27 oct  de 1919

en la iglesia de la concepcion. Mexico City distrito federal.

disculpa la pregunta donde vives?

Leticia Reynoso. (ayuda)

Hola, leticia, yo vivo en utah y te puedo ayudar hoy estuve en el centro de historia familiar . voy a ir el proximo sabado y te voy a checar esos microfilms. tambien encontre a otros dos hermanos que tu no tienes si quieres ponte en contacto conmigo y te digo ok?

Martha Gomez

Help/Ayuda

SAludos a todos/ Hi to all:
Yo tambien necesito ayuda. He llegado a un tope en mi busqueda por mi lado paterno. Mi auelo se llamo Paulino Sevilla, mi abuela Hexiquia Morgutia. De mi abuela si he logrado obtener informacion pero de mi abuelo nada. Se que murio en 1955 en Santa Catarina Jalisco/Zacoalco de Torres. Pero al parecer el nombre del pueblo Santa Catatina fue cambiado a General Andres Figueroa. Si alguien pudiera ayudarme y decirme si ustedes encuentran informacion sobre Paulino Sevilla. Quisiera saber quien fue el padre y abuelo de el.

I ALSO NEED HELP. I AM UNABLE TO FIND ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ON MY GRANDFATHER FROM MY PATERNAL FAMILY. MY GRANDFATHER'S NAME WAS PAULINO SEVILLA. MY GRANDMOTHER NAME WAS HEXIQUIA MORGUTIA. FROM MY GRANDMOTHE I BEEN ABLE TO OBTAIN INFORMATION, BUT PAST MY GRANDFATHER NOTHING. I KNOW THAT HE PASSED AWAY IN 1955 IN SANTA CATARINA/ZACOALCO DE TORRES. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NAME SANTA CATARINA CHANGED TO GENERAL ANDRES FIGUEROA. IF SOMEONE COULD HELP ME WITH THE ANCESTORS OF PAULINO SEVILLA I WOULD APPRECIATED VERY MUCH.

Muchas gracias.

DVD de Conferencia del Dr. Mariano Gonzalez Leal sobre Los Altos de Jalisco

Hola miembros de Nuestros Ranchos,

A alguien de ustedes les interesa obtener una copia del DVD de la
conferencia que dio Don Mariano González Leal sobre la historia y origen de
Los Altos de Jalisco? La conferencia la dio como parte de una reunión de
Nuestros Ranchos el 2 de Agosto de 2008 aquí en Valle de Guadalupe. Los
temas que trató son los siguientes:

· Historia de Los Altos de Jalisco

· Origen y evolución de las familias

· Mitos francés y sefardita en Los Altos

· La región Alteña de hoy

· Entre otros temas de interés

El video no ha sido editado ya que es el original y tiene como 13 minutos de
video antes de que comience a hablar el Dr. Mariano González Leal, y
honestamente, el audio no es de lo mejor, pero es perfectamente entendible.
Son cerca de dos horas o hasta más de la conferencia de Don Mariano.

El costo del DVD es de $49 dólares con todo y envío a EU, Canadá y México.
Esto es para recuperar parte de los gastos de la conferencia, ya que no se
tuvo patrocinador. Los que estén interesados por favor comuníquense conmigo
por medio de un correo electrónico a rickrod.com@gmail.com

Gracias por su tiempo,

Saludos,

Ricardo Rodríguez Camarena

Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

Genealogy Conference - March 6 & 7, 2010 --- Announce Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1

REGARDING SERGIO GTZ' inquiry:

The Genealogy Conference is the following, but I believe that it may be too late to attend. You would have to contact Helyn Sparkman [mistyriver123@yahoo.com] who organized it on behalf of The Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society of Northern California.
____________________________________________________________________________
Information regarding our Organization (Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society of Northern California:

We do meet quarterly on Saturdays, usually in Elk Grove, CA.
Please see our web page:

http://www.nuevagalicia.org/index.htm

_______________________________________________________________________________
The following are the particulars of our Conference being held this weekend in San Jose, CA.:

Genealogy Conference - March 6 & 7, 2010

Presented by
Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society of Northern California

We are also members of Nuestro's Rancho's
created by Joseph Puentes, researcher extraordinaire to whom we will honor

Cost of conference
$107.00 per person
This includes, lunch, dinner, taxes, service charges, and use of the facility.

Hotel accommodations are separate, and you will need to make your personal reservations. The hotel information is included in the following attachment.

Please fill out the attached "Early Registration Form" and mail along with a check for $25.00 to hold your space. The registration information must be received no later than February 1st.
The balance of $82.00 must be received by February 12th. However, if you wish to pay in
full, you may do so at this time.

Make checks payable to: Helyn Sparkman

Mail to:
Helyn Sparkman
Sparkman & Company Certified Pubic Accountants
1155 Meridian Avenue Suite 204
San Jose, CA 95125
__________________________________________________________________________
Here is the AGENDA:

GENEALOGY CONFERENCE
MARCH 6 & 7 2010
SHERATON HOTEL
MILPITAS, CA

10:00 a.m. Conference room to be opened

11:00 a.m.
Each participant to introduce self, giving areas, and names of research
PLEASE - BRING YOUR FAMILY TREES

12 Noon - Lunch

AFTERNOON SPEAKERS

Arturo Ramos
will be joining us from Washington, D.C.
Moderator of Nuestros Ranchos
Arturo published a book titled "La familia Ramos Gutierrez y su herencia jalisciense y zacatecana"
Arturo is currently working on his second book: "Familias antiques de Valle de Tlaltenango"
Topics:
*Use of surnames in the 17th Century Mexico with the case of Maria Esquivel and her daughter Ceclia Lopez as examples of matrilineal naming practices.
* The presence and position of negros and mulatos in 17th Century Valle de Tlaltenango.

ROSE HARDY
Author of "San Gabriel Valley Families of Nueva Galicia", and co-author to "Eyes to the Past". A Pictorial History from Families of Azusa, Baldwin Park and Irwindale".
Topic: Review of the 1648 Aguascalientes Census

Alicia Carrillo
Alicia brings many years of research, and is always happy to share information.
Topic: History of Nochistlan

We have allowed ample time for a question and answer session

If, you are new to research we can offer assistance individually or as a group to set you on your path for this amazing journey.

Sunday, March 7th 9:30 a.m.
Optional: Brunch at El Torito Mexican Restaurant
477 E. Calaveras
Milpitas, Ca
Cost $15.49 plus tax and service
____________________________________________________________________________
Looking forward to seeing you all.

Irma Gomez-Lucero aka Gomez Gtz
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Where and time of the Nueva Galicia meeting?

Sergio

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Delgado from Rio Grande Zacatecas

Hay alguien que tiene mas informacion sobre la familia Delgado do Rio Bravo, Zacatecas?

Esto es lo que tengo:

1) Julio Delgado (n. c. 1870) caso con Gerónima López
-----2) Perfecto Delgado (n. 6 May 1894 Rio Grande, Zacatecas) caso con Lina Medina
----------3) Antonio Delgado (n. 2 Sep 1905 Rio Grande, Zacatecas m. Jan 1978) caso con Natividad de la Fuente

Announce Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2

When will Mr. Ramos' second book be out?

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Genealogy Conference - March 6 & 7,
2010 --- Announce Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1
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REGARDING SERGIO GTZ' inquiry:

The Genealogy Conference is the following, but I believe that it may be
too late to attend. You would have to contact Helyn Sparkman
[mistyriver123@yahoo.com] who organized it on behalf of The Nueva
Galicia Genealogical Society of Northern California.
________________________________________________________________________
____
Information regarding our Organization (Nueva Galicia Genealogical
Society of Northern California:

We do meet quarterly on Saturdays, usually in Elk Grove, CA.
Please see our web page:

http://www.nuevagalicia.org/index.htm

________________________________________________________________________
_______
The following are the particulars of our Conference being held this
weekend in San Jose, CA.:

Genealogy Conference - March 6 & 7, 2010

Presented by
Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society of Northern California

We are also members of Nuestro's Rancho's created by Joseph Puentes,
researcher extraordinaire to whom we will honor

Cost of conference
$107.00 per person
This includes, lunch, dinner, taxes, service charges, and use of the
facility.

Hotel accommodations are separate, and you will need to make your
personal reservations. The hotel information is included in the
following attachment.

Please fill out the attached "Early Registration Form" and mail along
with a check for $25.00 to hold your space. The registration information
must be received no later than February 1st.
The balance of $82.00 must be received by February 12th. However, if
you wish to pay in full, you may do so at this time.

Make checks payable to: Helyn Sparkman

Mail to:
Helyn Sparkman
Sparkman & Company Certified Pubic Accountants
1155 Meridian Avenue Suite 204
San Jose, CA 95125
________________________________________________________________________
__
Here is the AGENDA:

GENEALOGY CONFERENCE
MARCH 6 & 7 2010
SHERATON HOTEL
MILPITAS, CA

10:00 a.m. Conference room to be opened

11:00 a.m.
Each participant to introduce self, giving areas, and names of research
PLEASE - BRING YOUR FAMILY TREES

12 Noon - Lunch

AFTERNOON SPEAKERS

Arturo Ramos
will be joining us from Washington, D.C.
Moderator of Nuestros Ranchos
Arturo published a book titled "La familia Ramos Gutierrez y su herencia
jalisciense y zacatecana"
Arturo is currently working on his second book: "Familias antiques de
Valle de Tlaltenango"
Topics:
*Use of surnames in the 17th Century Mexico with the case of Maria
Esquivel and her daughter Ceclia Lopez as examples of matrilineal naming
practices.
* The presence and position of negros and mulatos in 17th Century Valle
de Tlaltenango.

ROSE HARDY
Author of "San Gabriel Valley Families of Nueva Galicia", and co-author
to "Eyes to the Past". A Pictorial History from Families of Azusa,
Baldwin Park and Irwindale".
Topic: Review of the 1648 Aguascalientes Census

Alicia Carrillo
Alicia brings many years of research, and is always happy to share
information.
Topic: History of Nochistlan

We have allowed ample time for a question and answer session

If, you are new to research we can offer assistance individually or as a
group to set you on your path for this amazing journey.

Sunday, March 7th 9:30 a.m.
Optional: Brunch at El Torito Mexican Restaurant
477 E. Calaveras
Milpitas, Ca
Cost $15.49 plus tax and service
________________________________________________________________________
____
Looking forward to seeing you all.

Irma Gomez-Lucero aka Gomez Gtz
________________________________________________________________________
__
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:24:26 -0800 (PST)
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Where and time of the Nueva Galicia meeting?

Sergio

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research for Jerez, Zacatecas Mexico

I am updating my files on Rootsweb.com today. I have over 70,000 names and still have a couple of films to complete. Most records are for the district of Jerez, Zacatecas but some are from Jalisco and Michocan. I submitted each record I recorded so you can see the names, places and padrinos. I hope they can be of help to some of you. I started going through the members names but there are just too many people to not miss someone.

The file name is Mexico and if you go to the surname index hopefully some of the group will find something of interest. Pedigree in text format will give you your lineage, if you put my Father, Aniceto (Chet) Castanon 1921-2009 it will give you my lineage so we can compare ancestors.

I will not be participating as much for a short while due to health issues but will be reading with interest all the wonderful exchanges and information.

Linda Castanon-Long

genealogy for Monica Arteaga

I just took a look at the files submitted to our list and found that I have lineage for Monica Arteaga.

My Fathers Castanon family came from the District Of Jerez, Zacatecas and I share lines with Monica. We share both the lines of Rafael Tovar and Eucebia Mejia. I also have in my files Alejo and Paulina Murillo only in my files they are Morillo. I share part of Alejo's line with you. I have my research submitted to Rootsweb.com but am updating today so it may be offline for a day or so.

The best way to search would be through the pedigree in text format. You can compare our lines by doing the same with my Fathers name. Aniceto (Chet) Castanon, 1921- 2009, that will give you all our ancestors in common.

I love it when I can share records, that's what this is all about for me!

Linda Castanon-Long in Marietta, Ga.

Ixtlahuacán del Rio, or Ystlahuacan (del rio)

Hiya,

I just found record of ancestors from this area and wanted to ask if any of you
had any interesting information to share regarding this area. The family
name I am from is Sigala, Jose Saturino Sigala, born in 1798. He married
Maria Eustaquia Rodriguez.

Thank you for any information you could provide.

Elysia

Indigenous And Other Peoples of the Region

I would like to mention about the Indigenous Huichole Indians that inhabit the region. Because on my maternal grandparents side, my maternal grandfather has Huichole ancestry. But his wife, my maternal grandmother has Spanish ancestry.

In our pueblo of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico, a Belgium Arqeologist by the name of Marie Areti Hers - did an excavation in 1976 at a mountain right at Huejuquilla, and the mountain is called, "Cerro De Huistle (Huiztle." What she found was a Toltec grave site dated back to 100 A.D.

So the Toltecs were present and after the Toltecs, The Chichimeca Indigenous Tribe was in the area. In Zacatecas, there are pyramids called, "La Quemada."

When the spanish arrived to the area, it was "El Capitan Miguel Caldera" and "Nuno De Guzman" expedition. As she states here:

http://coljal.edu.mx/Revista/71/tradicion.pdf
http://maya.csuhayward.edu/archaeoplanet/LgdPage/Chacmool.htm

So that might be of some help. What I am curious about is what is the name of the ship/galleon that Capitan Miguel Caldera sailed on to Mexico??

Currently the Huichole Indigenous tribes live in villages that are farther out in the remote areas like Santa Catarina. Some come down from the remote areas and hang out in pueblos like Huejuquilla, Mezquitic and others to sell arts and crafts.

Here is an indigenous website of the area:

http://www.puebloindigena.com/portal/

One pueblo near the Huejuquilla, Jalisco area is called, "Tenzompa." Tenzompa existed even during pre-colombian times.

Now also there are the Mennonites in the Zacatecas region. They have two colonies, "La Batea and La Honda," in Zacatecas. They have about three generations in the area.

Ixtlahuacán del Rio

Hiya,

I just found record of ancestors from this area and wanted to ask if any of you
had any interesting information to share regarding this area. The family
name I am from is Sigala, Jose Saturino Sigala, born in 1798. He married
Maria Eustaquia Rodriguez.

Thank you for any information you could provide.

Elysia Rodriguez