Verification of Baptism Record for Pioquinta Gonzalez

This list compares the names given in records (source: microfilm and
certificates) located for my ancestor, Pioquinta Gonzalez Figueroa, and some
of her children. I am needing to verify if the latest record, the baptism
record that is listed first, is indeed her's. I have placed in bold
lettering the names that I think make the necessary connections. I would
appreciate feedback on this that would help me to determine whether or not I
have found her baptism. The family story has been handed down that
Pioquinta Gonzalez Figueroa was born in Spain of "royalty." Therefore, this
record is critical in possibly disclaiming that story, so I want to be as
sure as possible this is her baptism record before I add this to my family
history. I have extracted only the necessary information. In the baptism
record, even though it reads "infanta india," this is not necessarily
accurate, but it does raise further questions. (Every record in the film in
these early years, label the children as one of two things: ynfante/a
yndio/a or ynfante/a lavorio/a.) I also realize the name Gonzalez is so
common and was commonly given to Indian children at baptism, and the "s" and
"z" are used interchangeably, adding to the necessity of verifying each
piece of information I acquire. Thank-you!

Maria Pia Gonsales, infanta india, nacio en Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco 4
Mayo 1834; bautize 14 Mayo 1834 en la iglesia parroquial de San Diego en la
villa de Huejuquilla; hija natural de Antonia Gonsales, padre no conocido;
abuelos maternos Justo Gonsales y Juana Aragones Vasquaz; padrinos Juana
Gonsales Sota.

Pioquinta Gonzalez, viuda de Cabral, 77 anos de edad, fallecio de "neumonia"
en Guadalajara, Jalisco 20 Mayo 1911; originaria de Huejuquilla, hija
de Ygnacio
Gonzalez y de Antonia Figueroa.

Maria Virginia del Refugio Cabral, nacio en Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco 8
Mayo 1852; bautize 9 Mayo 1852 en la iglesia parroquial de San Diego en la
villa de Huejuquilla; hija legitima de Don Benigno Cabral y Dona Pioquinta
Gonzales; abuelos paternos Don Toribio Cabral y Dona Josefa Limas; abuelos
maternos Dona Antonia Gonzales; padrinos el Presbitero Don Pascual Cabral y
Dona Bernardina Cabral.

Jose Maria Cabral, nacio en Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco 22 Marzo 1855;
bautize 23 Marzo 1855 en la iglesia parroquial de San Diego en la villa de
Huejuquilla; hijo legitimo de Benigno Cabral y Pia Gonsalez; abuelos
paternos Toribio Cabral y Urzula Limas; abuelos maternos Antonia Gonzalez;
padrinos el Presbitero Con Pascual Cabral y Dona Bernardina Cabral.

Jose Felis Cabral, nacio en Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco 19 Noviembre 1856;
bautize 23 Noviembre 1856 en la iglesia parroquial de San Diego en la
parroquia de Huejuquilla; hijo legitimo de Benigno Cabral y Maria Pia
Gonsalez; abuelos paternos Toribio Cabral y Urzula Limas; abuelos
maternos Antonia
Gonsalez; padrinos Don Luis Aguilar y Dona Prudencia Figueroa.

Jose Miguel Cabral, nacio en Guadalajara, Jalisco 25 Septiembre 1867;
bautize 29 Septiembre 1867 en la iglesia parroquial de San Jose de Analco en
la parroquia de San Jose de Analco; hijo legitimo de Benigno Cabral y Pia
Gonzalez; abuelos paternos Toribio Cabral y Urzula Limas; abuelos
maternos Antonio
(Antonia?) Gonzalez; padrinos Victoria Ledesma.

Maria Isabel Cabral, nacio en Guadalajara, Jalisco 15 Julio 1871; bautize 30
Julio 1871 en El Sagrario Metropolitano en la parroquia de El Sagrario
Metropolitano; hija legitima de Domingo (Benigno?) Cabral y Pioquinta
Gonzalez; abuelos paternos Toribio Cabral y Ursula Dimas (Limas?); abuelos
maternos Justo Gonzalez (?) y Antonia Gonzalez; padrinos Justo Raygoza y
Refugio Linares.

Maria Isabel Cabral casado Isaac Alatorre en Guadalajara, Jalisco 18 Junio
1890 en la iglesia de Belen, 18 anos de edad, hija legitima de Benigno
Cabral y Pioquinta Gonzalez.

Francisca Cabral, casado Alberto Martin del Campo en Guadalajara, Jalisco 19
Septiembre 1896 en la parroquia de Santuario de Santa Maria de Guadalupe, 17
anos de edad; hija legitima de Benigno Cabral y Pioquinta Gonzalez.

Francisca Cabral, casado con Alberto Martin del Campo, 56 anos de edad,
fallecio en Guadalajara, Jalisco 20 Octubre 1936; originaria de Guadalajara,
mestiza mexicana, hija de Benigno Cabral y Pioquinta Gonzalez.

Thank-you, again, and please excuse and incorrect Spanish. I'm trying to
practice writing it!
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

Pabo Suriano

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Christening:  24 MAR 1799   Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico
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Onate/Zaldivar/Mendoza

2.  MARIA4DE ONATE was born 14 Feb 1542 in San Miguel. Valladolid, Spain, and died in Vitoria. Guipuzcoa, Spain.  She married RUYDIAZ-DE-SALDIVAR2in Vitoria, Guipuzcoa, Spain, son of JUANMARTINEZ-DE-ZALDIVARand MARIADE EGUILETA.  He was born in Vitoria, Guipuzcoa, Spain.
 
Notes for MARIADE ONATE:
Source: Mil Familias III by Rodolfo Gonzalez de la Garza. Page 416.
 
Notes for RUYDIAZ-DE-SALDIVAR: A.K.A. Rodrigo Diaz de Saldivar.
Source: Mil Familias III by Rodolfo Gonzalez de la Garza. Page 416.
       
Children of MARIADE ONATEand RUYDIAZ-DE-SALDIVARare:
                   i.       MAESE DE CAMPOJUAN5DE SALDIVAR-Y-ONATE, b. Vitoria, Guipuzcoa, Spain; m. MARINAMENDOZA-DE-MARIN, Zacatecas, Mexico; b. Mexico City, F.D., Mexico.
 
Notes for MAESE DE CAMPOJUANDE SALDIVAR-Y-ONATE:
In 1540, he headed an expedition from Nueva Galicia to Florida. Source:Historia del Nuevo Reino de Leon by Eugenio del Hoyo.
New Mexico's First Colonists, compiled and arranged by David H. Snow.
 
Marriage Notes for JUANDE SALDIVAR-Y-ONATEand MARINAMENDOZA-DE-MARIN:
Mil Familias III by Rodolfo Gonzalez de la Garza. Page 326.
Fundadores de Nueva Galicia - Guadalajara - Tomo I, by Guillermo Garmendia Leal. Page 10 and 70.
 
                  ii.    LT. CAPTAIN GENERALVICENTEDE SALDIVAR-Y-ONATE3, b. Vitoria, Guipuzcoa, Spain; d. 20 Feb 1635/36, Ciudad Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico; m. MAGDALENADE MENDOZA-SALAZAR, Abt. 1568, Zacatecas, Mexico; b. Granada, Spain.
 
Notes for LT. CAPTAIN GENERALVICENTEDE SALDIVAR-Y-ONATE:
He was the lieutenant captain general of the Viceroy, Don Martin Enriquez de Almanza.
This viceroy's served the king of Spain from November 5, 1568 to October 3, 1580.
Source: From the book's, Don Juan de Onate Colonizer of New Mexico by George P. Hammond and Northern New Spain, A research Guide by Thomas C. Barnes, Thomas H, Nayor, And Charles W. Polzer.
 
 
 
                 iii.       ALONSODE SALDIVAR-Y-ONATE, m. ISABELDE VERGARA.
                 iv.       DIEGODE SALDIVAR-Y-ONATE.
 
 
3.  COUNTCRISTOBAL4DE NAHARRIONDO-PEREZ-DE-ONATE(JUAN3PEREZ-DE-ONATE, CRISTOBAL2PEREZ-DE-NARRIAHONDO, PEDRO1DE BAEZA)was born Abt. 1500 in Onate, Guipuzcoa, Spain, and died 06 Oct 1567 in Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.  He married CATALINASALAZAR-DE-CADENA1545 in Spain, daughter of GONZALODE SALAZARand CATALINADE-LA-CADENA-Y-MALVENA.  She was born Abt. 1510 in Granada, Andalusia, Spain, and died in Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico?.
 
Notes for COUNTCRISTOBALDE NAHARRIONDO-PEREZ-DE-ONATE:
In 1524, he and his family arrived in Mexico. By 1526, he was an official in Mexico City.
In the summer of 1539, he gave his friend, Coronado, two handsome horses. Only one horse survived Coronado's long expedition.
Hero of the Mixton War.
Inspector of finances for Nueva Galicia. In 1540 he succeeded Coronado as Governor of Nuevo Galicia, New Spain (Mexico). Guadalajara was it's capital city.
In 1548, Don Cristobal was one of the  founders and the wealthiest silver miner of Zacatecas, Mexico. Father of Juan de Onate, the celebrated founder of New Mexico
During the era of the Viceroy Don Antonio de Mendoza, he was the Conquistador of Suchilila.
Source: From the book's,
New Mexico Royal Road by Max L. Moorhead;
Origen de los Fundadores de Texas, Nuevo Mexico, Coahuila, y Nuevo Leon, by Guillermo Garmendia Leal. (page 66 & 67).
Coronado, Knight of Pueblos and Plains by Herbert Eugene Bolton;
The Last Conquistador, Juan de Onate and the Settling of the far Southwest, by Marc Simmons.
New Mexico's First Colonists, compiled and arranged by David H. Snow.
Glory, God, and Gold, edited by Lewis Gannett.
With All Arms by Carl Laurence Duaine;
Historia del Nuevo Reino de Leon, by Eugenio del Hoyo.
and the Texas Handbook Online.
A.K.A. Cristobal de Onate y Narria.
 
Notes for CATALINASALAZAR-DE-CADENA:
Her grand-parents were members of the royal court of King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain.
Source: With all Arms by Carl Laurence Duaine.
Her father was the lieutenant governor of all of New Spain and factor of the Royal treasury in Mexico.
Source: From the book, Don Juan de Onate Colonizer of New Mexico, by George P. Hammond.
Dona Catalina was twice married. 1st. Don Ruy Diaz de Mendoza. 2nd.Governor Cristobal de Onate.
In the book,The Last Conquistador, Juan de Onate and the settling of the far Southwest, the author,
Marc Simmons, list her 1st husband as Don Ruy Diaz de Mendoza.
>From both of her marriages, she left descendents who now live in Texas.
Source: Origen de los Fundadores de Texas, Nuevo Mexico, Coahuila, y Nuevo Leon, Saltillo Tomo II, by
Guillermo Garmendia Leal. Page 66.
Glory, God, and Gold, edited by Lewis Gannett.
       
Children of CRISTOBALDE NAHARRIONDO-PEREZ-DE-ONATEand CATALINASALAZAR-DE-CADENAare:
                   i.       ALCALDE MAYORFERNANDO5DE ONATE, b. Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; d. Tacambaro, Michoacan, Mexico; m. LEONORDE RIVADENEIRA-Y-MERIDA.
 
Notes for ALCALDE MAYORFERNANDODE ONATE:
Source:Origen de los Fundadores de Texas, Nuevo Mexico, Coahuila, y Nuevo Leon, Saltillo Tomo II, by
Guillermo Garmendia Leal. Page 67.
A History of New Mexico by Gaspar Perez de Villagra, Alcala - 1610, translated by Gilberto Espinosa.
 
Notes for LEONORDE RIVADENEIRA-Y-MERIDA:
A.K.A, Dona Leonor Riva de Neira.
 
                  ii.       MARIADE ONATE-SALAZAR, m. JOSE-ANTONIODE ORDAZ; d. Puebla, Mexico.
                 iii.       ANTONIADE PEREZ-DE-ONATE-SALAZAR, b. Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; m. BERNARDOVASQUEZ-DE-TAPIA, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
 
Notes for BERNARDOVASQUEZ-DE-TAPIA:
His niece, Dona Guiomar Vasquez de Espinosa, was married to Don Luis Cortez. (Hernan Cortez's son).
 
                 iv.       CATHALINADE PEREZ-DE-ONATE-SALAZAR, b. Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
                  v.       LUISPEREZ-DE-ONATE.
                 vi.       ALONSODE ONATE, b. Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; d. New Mexico ?; m. INESDE RIVADENEIRA.
 
Notes for ALONSODE ONATE:
In the book's, Origins of New Mexico Families by Fray Angelico Chavez, and The Last Conquistador by Marc Simmons, it is stated that he is the yougest of the brothers.
A History of New Mexico by Gaspar Perez de Villagra, Alcala - 1610, translated by Gilberto Espinosa.
and in the book, Don Juan de Onate, Colonizer of New Mexico, by George P. Hammond, Don Alonso is listed as a brother.
 
 
                vii.       CRISTOBALPEREZ-DE-ONATE, b. 1552, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
 
Notes for CRISTOBALPEREZ-DE-ONATE:
Twin brother to Juan de Onate.
Attended the University of Salamanca, Spain.
No further information has been found on his life.
Source: From the books, Portraits of Basques in the New World, edited by Richard W. Etulain and Heronima Echeverria.
A History of New Mexico by Gaspar Perez de Villagra, Alcala - 1610, translated by Gilberto Espinosa.
 
               viii.       GOVERNORJUANPEREZ-DE-ONATE, b. 1552, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; d. Abt. 03 Jun 1626, Guadalcanal, Spain; m. ISABELDE TOLOSA-CORTEZ-MOCTEZUMA, Abt. 1588, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; b. Mexico City, F.D., Mexico; d. 1620, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
 
Notes for GOVERNORJUANPEREZ-DE-ONATE:
Explorer and founder of the first European colony in the upper Rio Grande valley of New Mexico.
 
Twin brother to Cristobal de Onate.
In 1567, at 15 years of age, he took over the responsibility of managing his family properties
and mining business.
On August 27, 1592, the Viceroy of New Spain, named him as alcalde mayor of San Luis Potosi.
In July 23, 1596, at the mines of Avino, Durango, he organized his force that would be part of the
entrada into New Mexico. Source:A History of New Mexico by Gaspar Perez de Villagra, Alcala - 1610, translated by Gilberto Espinosa.
On April 30, 1598, as Conquistador and in the name of King Felipe II of Spain, he took possession of all the kingdoms and provinces of New Mexico. His explorations extended from the Colorado River to the plains of Kanasa.
>From 1598 to 1607, he served as governor of New Mexico.
By 1607, he had lost favor with the Spanish government, and on August 24, 1607, he resigned his post. Source:Kiva, Cross, and Crown by John L. Kessell.
He was the first to give the name "Apache" to the indian tribe of New Mexico. A Zuni word for "Enemy".
Exiled from New Mexico, he returned to Spain.
In in Spain, and on October 4, 1625, he signed his last will and testament.
He was both, uncle and cousin to Juan and Vicente de Saldivar. Cousin to Fray Cristobal de Salazar.
Source:From the book's;
A History of New Mexico by Gaspar Perez de Villagra, Alcala - 1610, translated by Gilberto Espinosa.
Arizona, A History by Thomas E. Sheridan.
Origen de los Fundadores de Texas, Nuevo Mexico, Coahuila, y Nuevo Leon,
by Guillermo Garmendia Leal.
Coronado, Knight of Pueblos and Plains by Herbert Eugene Bolton
Spanish Texas 1519 - 1821 by Donald E Chipman.
Great River - The Rio Grande in North American History by Paul Horgan.
Historia del Nuevo Reino de Leon, by Eugenio del Hoyo.
The Last Conquistador, Juan de Onate and the settling of the far Southwest, by Marc Simmons.
Beyond the Frontier, Exploring the Indian Country, by Stan Hoig.
Northern New Spain, A Research Guide by Thomas C. Barnes, Thomas H. Naylor and Charles W. Polzer.
Mexico's Miguel Caldera, the Taming of America's First Frontier (1548-1597) by Philip Eayne Powell.
Nueva Vizcaya, Heartland of the Spanish Frontier, by Oakah L. Jones, Jr.
Portraitsof Basques in the New World, edited by Richard W. Etulain and Heronima Echeverria.
New Mexico's First Colonists, compiled and arranged by David H. Snow.
Glory, God, and Gold, edited by Lewis Gannett.
Rio del Norte by Carroll L. Riley
The Texas Handbook Online.
 
A.K.A. Juan de Onate y Salazar and Juan de Onate.
 
Notes for ISABELDE TOLOSA-CORTEZ-MOCTEZUMA:
Grand-daughter to Hernan Cortez and great-grand-daughter of Moctezuma, Emperor of the Aztec.
Her father, Captain Juanes de Tolosa, was a prominent figure in the conquest and settlement of Nueva Galicia, New Spain. (Mexico)
Her death in 1594, is mentioned in the book, Land of the Conquistadores by Cleve Hallenbrek.
Source:Historia de la Nueva Mexico, 1610, by Gaspar Perez de Villagra.
Spanish Texas 1519 - 1821 by Donald E Chipman.
Source:The Last Conquistador, Juan de Onate and the settling of the far Southwest, by Marc Simmons.
Kiva, Cross, and Crown, the Pecos indians and New Mexico 1540-1840 by John L. Kessell.
Glory, God, and Gold, edited by Lewis Gannett.
The Texas Handbook Online.
 
 
Marriage Notes for JUANPEREZ-DE-ONATEand ISABELDE TOLOSA-CORTEZ-MOCTEZUMA:
Marriage source:Origen de los Fundadores de Texas, Nuevo Mexico, Coahulia, y Nuevo Leon, by Guillermo Garmendia Leal. (page 66).
The Last Conquistador, Juan de Onate and the settling of the far Southwest, by Marc Simmons.
 
 
4.  JUAN4PEREZ-DE-ONATE-GONZALEZ(JUAN3PEREZ-DE-ONATE, CRISTOBAL2PEREZ-DE-NARRIAHONDO, PEDRO1DE BAEZA)was born Abt. 1501, and died Aft. 1537 in Peru.
 
Notes for JUANPEREZ-DE-ONATE-GONZALEZ:
In 1537, he left for Peru.
Source: Historia del Nuevo Reino de Leon 1577 - 1723, by Eugenio del Hoyo.
 
       
Child of JUANPEREZ-DE-ONATE-GONZALEZis:
                   i.       CRISTOBAL5DE ONATE, d. 08 Jan 1567/68, Madrid, Spain.
 
Notes for CRISTOBALDE ONATE:
On May 5, 1567 - January 8, 1568, he was tried for conspiracy against the King of Spain. During his trial, he was tortured. Found guilty, he was executed.
The Harkness Collection in the Library of Congress. Manuscripts concerning Mexico. A Guide.
Library of Congress, US manuscript division, Washington, D.C.

Nuestros Ranchos - Agualeguas, not Aqualequas

Barbara,

I believe that you are seeking Agualeguas. It isthe name of a Ciudad and
one of the 51 Municipios of the Estado de Nuevo Leon.

It was erected as a village in 1821 and the 2000 census reported that
Agualeguas (the city) had 4,492 inhabitants.

Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California

> [Original Message]
> From: Barbara/Red Chedester
> To:
> Date: 11/30/2008 5:58:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos -
EnriquezRomoFamiliainJalostotitlan, Jalisco
>
> Thanks so much. I don't think these are mine. They were b Sombrete
> Zacztecas, so doubt if NL is close to there. tks. bc
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> RomoFamiliainJalostotitlan, Jalisco
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> > NL is Nuevo Leon.
> >
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> > From: " Barbara/Red Chedester"
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> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos - Enriquez Romo
> > FamiliainJalostotitlan, Jalisco
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> >>I found some of mine at Aqualequas NL. Do you know what state NL is?
> >>tks,
> >>bc
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Rosa Gonzalez"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos - Enriquez Romo
Familia
> >> inJalostotitlan, Jalisco
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi. I'm new to this wonderful site and was hoping that someone would
be
> >>> able to assist me. I'm at a roadblock in a family mystery for my
> >>> paternal
> >>> grandfather J. Rosario Enriquez b. abt 1890 Jalostotitlan, Jal. I
found
> >>> the
> >>> gravesite for his wife/my paternal grandmother Maria Trinidad Romo b.
3
> >>> Mar
> >>> 1894 Jalostotitlan, Jal., d. 26 Jan 1988 Jalostotitlan, Jal.
> >>>
> >>> I've asked family about him; however, no one seems to know anything
> >>> about
> >>> him. I've searched Ancestry.com and FamilySearch.com, etc... Does
> >>> anyone
> >>> have the marriage films? I would like to obtain a copy of my
> >>> grandparents
> >>> marriage certificate or at minimum the information on the marriage
> >>> record.
> >>> Does anyone have any other ideas? With much appreciation!
> >>> Rosa
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> >>>
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> >>> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> >>> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of JOSE
> >>> FELIX
> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:04 PM
> >>> To: research@ nuestros ranchos.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] CUQUIO Jalisco - SANCHEZ, ORTIZ, FELIZ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hola Prima:
> >>> Resien estoy Viendo mis Emails ,Despues de unas muy meresidas
Vacaciones
> >>> ,y
> >>> que gran sorpresa me estoy llevando ,de que tus ancestros son tambien
> >>> los
> >>> mios, mi linea directa es Felis.y si ,Joseph Felis y Gertrudis Sanches
> >>> ,fueron mis Great-Great Parents Novena generacion.
> >>> Yo tengo los Microfilms que tu estas buscando , #0617581 Matrimonios
> >>> 1711-1762 Cuquio Jal. y# 0615009 Bautizmos 1666-1726 Cuquio Jal.y con
> >>> gusto
> >>> te boy a mandar copias de las actas de nuestros ancestros a partir de
> >>> Jose
> >>> Felis y Gertrudis Sanches.
> >>> Por mientras te doy estos datos :
> >>> Joseph Felis Nacio en Cuquio Jal.el 03 Dec.1714.
> >>> Hijo de Antonio Felis y de Ysabel De Vargas.
> >>> Matrimonio de Joseph Felis y Gertrudis Sanches fue el 06 May 1746
Cuquio
> >>> Jal.
> >>> Gertrudis Sanches nacio el 28 Mar 1725 Hija de Joseph Sanches y de
> >>> Geronima
> >>> Ortiz Cuquio Jal.
> >>> Ysabel de Vargas nacio el 25 Jul 1691 Hija de Nicolas de Vargas y de
> >>> Maria
> >>> De la Rosa Cuquio Jal.
> >>> Es hasta donde he investigado .El mes pasado fui a visitar el Pueblo
de
> >>> Cuquio y Yahualica Jal. y todavia existen los Ranchos ,de La Labor de
> >>> San
> >>> Ygnacio y Apozol ,que actualmente pertenecen a Yahualica Jal. Lugar
> >>> donde
> >>> nacieron Joseph Felis y Gertrudis Sanches.
> >>> Hasta luego
> >>> Jose Luis Felix (Felis)
> >>> Perris Ca.
> >>>> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From:
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> >>> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:42:10 -0800> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos]
> >>> CUQUIO
> >>> Jalisco - SANCHEZ, ORTIZ, FELIZ> > > Hi all, if anyone has the
marriage
> >>> films, I am wondering if you can help - I just need the parent's names
> >>> for
> >>> bride and groom. Can anyone help?> > 1) MARRIAGE: Cuquio, Jalisco>
DATE:
> >>> 7
> >>> Nov 1715 > NAMES: Joseph Sanches y Geronima Ortiz> > 2) MARRIAGE:
> >>> Cuquio,
> >>> Jalisco> DATE: 28 Mar 1725 > NAMES: Jose Felis & Gertrudis
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Birth: 
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Marriages:
  Spouse:  TEODORO ESCOVEDO Family
  Marriage:  21 MAY 1888   Guadalupe De Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico

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Escobedo in Zacatecas

Robert,

I thought I had lots of Escobedos [Escovedo] in my lines, but I see I have mostly Acevedos.

However, I did find one Escovedo. She was Mariana de Escovedo, an espanola (Spanish), who married a Pablo Jose Suriano, a mulato, around 1797, probably in Tepetongo or Salitrillo. That means she might have been born around 1777. Mariana was also listed in her children's birth records under various names such as Maria Ana Guadalupe [Mata] or [Flores] or [De La Torre]. This has made it hard for me to find her birth record so I don't know who her parents were or where she was born. I suspect her mother may have been a Mata or Flores or a Delatorre; those families were as prominent in Zacatecas as the Escovedos. Sometimes they used only their mother's surname.

In the pilot site for Family Search, they have transcribed the records for Tlaltenango, Tepechitlan, and Pinos in Zacatecas, and many Escovedos are listed in those communities. I might find Mariana when they get to transcribing the Monte Escobedo and other films. If her record was lost or among those not filmed, then I am out of luck.

It is interesting to me that you have relatives from Guadalupe. My father's sister Soledad Olague was born there. My father Guadalupe Olague was born in Jerez in 1903. The birth records from that time were lost during the Revolution. My grandfather Francisco Olague and his brother Ygnacio and their brother in law Jose Davila Garcia were conscripted into some army, I don't know which side, and were scheduled to be executed by firing squad but Jose's wife, sister of Francisco and Ygnacio, appealed to someone and they let them all leave on the train bound for Chihuahua City and the El Paso, Texas border. That was in 1913 when my father was 10 years old. None of them ever went back to Mexico.

I will do some research and see if I can find any ancestors and descendants of my Mariana Escobedo and see if she had a common ancestor among your ancestors. I'll let you know.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Esparza Family from Noria de los Angeles and El Hacienda Corro

I am interested to know if anyone is familiar with the terrain of Zacatecas and the ranchos nearby. Mariano Esparza was from an area called Corro in Zacatecas. I am having difficulty finding Corro on the map of Zacatecas. If anyone has any information or any family line that trace to the Corro area or Noria de los angeles please write back.

Daniel Briones

Escobedo Family

Hi everyone. I am fairly new to this site and looking for anyone with Escobedo's in their family tree. I have my genealogy traced back to around 1820 but have not had much luck getting more information. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Robert Escobedo

Guanajuato migration?

I am intrigued with this thread, as I believe that there was a migration
pattern from Michoacan to Jalisco and Zacatecas. Where the initial migration
began and ended is unsure...but it does not seem an impossibility that such
migration(s) existed. I believe Emilie has made a connection with families from
Michoacan to Jalisco. Interesting, as not too long ago, some relatives from
the "Altos" considered those from the western part of Michoacan part of the
"Altos" family....wondering if they knew something that our records and DNA
can't prove.

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Guanajuato ?

What do folks know about the historical relationship between our area of
research (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes) and Guanajuato?

Yes I understand that is such a general question but really any of your
thoughts would be appreciated.

thanks,

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Danny Cuellar-Reynoso Connection

Hola Danny ,how are you ? my name is Ronnie Reynoso , my people are from Los Altos ,my Grandparents are from the area of San Julian (near san Miguel el Alto). I was looking at your chart and saw Alejo Reynoso and Wife . I have Alejos connection all the way to Spain . Alejo Reynoso is part of the Reynoso Clan . The Majority (98%) of Reynosos are related(Zacatecas,Jalisco and Aguascalientes) and from the same root.
your new Cousin
Ronnie Reynoso

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Danny Cuellar research

Danny I just got a chance to view your submission, what a wonderful job you did of putting together your lineage and to have so many family photos is amazing. You have obviously worked very hard to collect and document.

Thank you for sharing, makes me wish I had family from your part of Mexico since there are so many in Nuestrosranchos from there..

again, well done!

Linda in Everett

Ahijados ???

I was looking at a film in the 1741 time frame for Zacatecas, Zacatecas
for Confirmations. Was the person sponsoring the person being confirmed
also called a Padrino? I thought that was just for Godparents at the
baptism? The records I was looking at mostly only had a single person
sponsoring them wasn't there suppose to be two sponsors? Was the sponsor
a serious commitment like it was to be a Godparent in that many times
they chose a family member to be the sponsor?

http://h2opodcast.com/nr/misc/Ahijados.JPG
(in this picture above is this for confirmations or baptism, did they
call the confirmed an Ahijado? I thought that meant Godchild).

maybe that film had information about baptisms as well,

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Introduction/Introduccion a Miguel Angel Munoz Borrego

Iti is my pleasure to introduce a Miguel Angel Muñoz Borrego to the
group. He has been a member for a few months and his genealogy file is
listed here: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16979 His email addres
is: miguel.munoz15@hotmail.com Mr. Muñoz Borrego is in charge of all the
archives for the state of Coahuila. The reason this can be important to
the members of the nuestrosranchos.org group is that our relatives
traveling north from Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes most
likely traveled via the Ruta de Plata and that road traveled directly to
Saltillo, Coahuila. Many traveled North and also traveled to the mines
in Monterrey and other locations. Mr. Muñoz Borrego has commented that
he can help individuals researching outside our area of research along
the Ruta de Plata. He not only knows about his state of Coahuila, but is
well informed with Nuevo Leon as well as Jalisco, Zacatecas, and
Aguascalientes. Of special interest to those traveling to Mexico might
be that Mr. Muñoz Borrego is very familiar with the other heads of the
archives in Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes.

Tengo el gusto de presentar al Señor Miguel Angel Muñoz Borrego al
grupo. El ha sido miembro desde hace varios meses y su archivo
genealogico se encuentra en este sitio:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16979 . Su correo electronico es:
miguel.munoz15@hotmail.com El Señor Muñoz Borrego es el encargado de
todos los archivos del Estado de Coahuila. La razón por lo cual tener
conocimiento de su posicion puede ser importante para los miembros del
grupo nuestrosranchos.org, es porque nuestros familiares viajaban desde
los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes, rumbo al Norte por
La Via de La Plata. Ese camino pasaba directamente por Saltillo,
Coahuila. Muchos de nuestros familiares viajaron rumbo al Norte, también
a las minas de Monterrey y otros lugares vecinos. El Señor Muñoz Borrego
ha comentado que el está dispuesto ayudar a personas que estén
investigando fuera de nuestra area de investigación, a investigar en las
cercanias de "La Ruta de La Plata". El tiene amplios conocimientos, no
tan solo del Estado de Coahuila, sino tambien de Nuevo Leon, Jalisco,
Zacatecas, y Aguascalientes. De interés especial para las personas que
viajan a Mexico, es bueno e importante saber que el Señor Muñoz Borrego
está familiarizado con otros encargados de archivos en Jalisco,
Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.

joseph

ps: Muchisimas gracias a Welester Alvarado por la ayuda en various
proyectos y el estimilo para reconocer personas en el grupo.

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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Cantinflas at NMAH

The following is not about genealogy, but about some contemporary (i.e., 20th century) Mexican culture.
The Smithsonian's National Museum of American History (NMAH), in Washington, DC, has undergone some extensive renovation and is scheduled to re-open on Nov 21. The section on Popular Culture will now be called "Thanks For the Memories", and one of the exhibits will feature "Cantinflas". Those of you of a certain age may remember a Mexican comedian named Cantinflas who appeared in many Mexican films, mostly in the '40's and '50's, and also appeared in the US film "Around the World in 80 Days". You can read more about the overall museum renovations here:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/

and you can read about the Smithsonian's Latino Center here:
http://latino.si.edu/aboutus/

Natalie Coleman

Non-Member Seeks Professional Researcher

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Responses to your question
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:31:37 -0800
From:
To: Joseph Puentes
References: <49174F31.9090406@nc.rr.com>
<001c01c94742$d95045a0$58ff5142@preferreduser> <491F5C2E.1030906@nc.rr.com>

Hi,
My distant uncle, Dimas Marquez, told me that Pedro Marquez, who wrote
the book "La Historia de San Juan de los Lagos" told him that Diego
Marquez came from Sauz de los Marquez. Now, Pedro never told Dimas about
Jusepe Marquez who got married in 1614 in Santa Maria de los Lagos (now
Lagos de Moreno). So, I don't know how Pedro found that information but
he mistook Diego M. of 1617, son of Jusepe M., for Diego M. of the
1500's. Dimas told me that he had never heard of Jusepe M. Pedro statrs
his book just after the miracle of 1623. Diego M., son of Jusepe M.,
helped build the first church in San Juan after the miracle.
I need someone who can help me prove that Jusepe M. is the son of Diego
Marquez de los Olivos who entered San Juan in the 1580's.
Chuck M.

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Here is more information by that person looking for a professional
researcher. His email is below. If you think you can work with him or
know of someone that might be able to help him please contact him
directly. I and Carol Muro in the group both have roots to Sauz de Los
Marquez but not in the time frame he is talking about below. It seems if
the information is correct that Sauz de Los Marquez is a pretty old
community.

It is not mandatory but my curiosity would like to stay in the loop if
anyone finds more information.

thanks,

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Responses to your question
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:54:29 -0800
From:
To: Joseph Puentes
References: <49174F31.9090406@nc.rr.com>

Dear Joseph,
I am very glad you responded to my need for a professional researcher.
First, I hired George Ryscamp 20 or so years ago. He connected me to Ophelia
Marquez, a distant cousin, who has worked closely with "Somos Primos".
Ophelia and I have been researching our tree for 20 years and have gone back
to Diego Marquez who was identified as entering the town of San Juan de los
Lagos between 1584 and 1599 by Jose Antonio Gutierrez Guteierrez in his book
"Los Gutierrez de la Media Hanega de Xalostotitlan. Los Origines" published
in 1997 in Gudalajara. He lists "Amigos de la Historia de Altos de Jalisco"
as one of the credits for his information. I believe he is on the staff at
the University of Aguascalientes. I also gave my tree to Mariano Gonzalez
Leal for his book "Retornos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia. Here is what I
know:
Diego Marquez de los Olivos entered San Juan de los Lagos in the late
1500's. According to Pedro Marquez, who wrote "La Historia de San Juan de
los Lagos", Diego Marquez de los Olivos came from Sauz de los Marquez.
Jusepe Marquez was married on the 28 of April 1614 in Santa Maria de los
Lagos, now Lagos de Moreno, to Maria Martin del Campo y Lopez de la Cruz,
according to Gonzalo Torres Martinez in his book "Los Torres de Jaen en
Mexico". I believe Jusepe is the son of Diego Marquez de los Olivos even
though the marriage certificate says that his parents were "difuntos". In a
dispensa in the 1700's the family is identified as Marquez de los Olivos.
And Mariano Gonzalez Leal says that the original inhabitants of Altos de
Jalisco were Marquez de los Olivos.
Getting back to Diego Marquez de los Olivos of the 1500's, Phillip Wayne
Powell who wrote "Soldiers, Indians, and Silver" wrote that between 1560 and
1570, "Alli murieron algunos espanoles (uno llamado don Torquemada y cierto
Marquez y su hermano Cristobal)." Note # 8, page 256. This happened in San
Martin, a silver mining area north of Zacatecas.
The Archives of Seville wrote me that 3 Marquez brothers imigrated to New
Spain in 1537, 1554, and 1555. They were Jeronimo, Cristobal de Solis, and
Diego Marquez respectively. Mr. Powell left alll his notes from the book in
the Archives in San Luis Potosi.
This is all I have, all the data is sequential and all makes sense
chronogically and geographically. I need someone who can help me "prove" my
line. I would also like to know more about Sauz de los Marquez.
Sincerely,
Chuck Marquez de los Olivos

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: jmar06@peoplepc.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Responses to your question

I'll forward your info to the group to see if anyone has further
ideas. My Marquez and other relatives lived and possibly still live in
Sauz de Los Marquez. I'd be interested to know how Mr. Pedro Marquez
knows that Diego Marquez comes from Sauz de Los Marquez.

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

jmar06@peoplepc.com wrote:
> Dear Joseph,
> I am very glad you responded to my need for a professional
researcher.
> First, I hired George Ryscamp 20 or so years ago. He connected me
to Ophelia
> Marquez, a distant cousin, who has worked closely with "Somos
Primos".
> Ophelia and I have been researching our tree for 20 years and
have gone back
> to Diego Marquez who was identified as entering the town of San
Juan de los
> Lagos between 1584 and 1599 by Jose Antonio Gutierrez Guteierrez
in his book
> "Los Gutierrez de la Media Hanega de Xalostotitlan. Los Origines"
published
> in 1997 in Gudalajara. He lists "Amigos de la Historia de Altos
de Jalisco"
> as one of the credits for his information. I believe he is on the
staff at
> the University of Aguascalientes. I also gave my tree to Mariano
Gonzalez
> Leal for his book "Retornos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia. Here
is what I
> know:
> Diego Marquez de los Olivos entered San Juan de los Lagos in the late
> 1500's. According to Pedro Marquez, who wrote "La Historia de San
Juan de
> los Lagos", Diego Marquez de los Olivos came from Sauz de los
Marquez.
> Jusepe Marquez was married on the 28 of April 1614 in Santa Maria
de los
> Lagos, now Lagos de Moreno, to Maria Martin del Campo y Lopez de
la Cruz,
> according to Gonzalo Torres Martinez in his book "Los Torres de
Jaen en
> Mexico". I believe Jusepe is the son of Diego Marquez de los
Olivos even
> though the marriage certificate says that his parents were
"difuntos". In a
> dispensa in the 1700's the family is identified as Marquez de los
Olivos.
> And Mariano Gonzalez Leal says that the original inhabitants of
Altos de
> Jalisco were Marquez de los Olivos.
> Getting back to Diego Marquez de los Olivos of the 1500's,
Phillip Wayne
> Powell who wrote "Soldiers, Indians, and Silver" wrote that
between 1560 and
> 1570, "Alli murieron algunos espanoles (uno llamado don
Torquemada y cierto
> Marquez y su hermano Cristobal)." Note # 8, page 256. This
happened in San
> Martin, a silver mining area north of Zacatecas.
> The Archives of Seville wrote me that 3 Marquez brothers
imigrated to New
> Spain in 1537, 1554, and 1555. They were Jeronimo, Cristobal de
Solis, and
> Diego Marquez respectively. Mr. Powell left alll his notes from
the book in
> the Archives in San Luis Potosi.
> This is all I have, all the data is sequential and all makes sense
> chronogically and geographically. I need someone who can help me
"prove" my
> line. I would also like to know more about Sauz de los Marquez.
> Sincerely,
> Chuck Marquez de los Olivos

Jalos Genealogy--Danny Cuellar Research Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3

Dear Danny,

My parents are both from Jalostotitlan too. You and I both
descend from the couple, Ponciano Gutierrez & Ma. Nicolasa Gutierrez.
Their son, Yreneo Gtz (married to Paulina Gonzales) was my Great
Grandfather. I also have Reynoso, Gonzales, Lozano, Perez, etc., among
other surnames. I would be interested in sharing our research.

Your ? Cousin,

Irma Gomez Gtz de Lucero

Northern California

igomezlucero@csus.edu

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:35:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Danny Cuellar
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Message-ID: <909227.77299.qm@web82401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17260

I have been doing Genealogy for 5 years and found my roots from my
mother and father side are from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco area. I have my
genealogy file in the files area of the group under, "Cuellar, Danny"
but you can find it directly at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17260
So far I gone up to the 1700's and hopefully would like to go back even
further to find my ancestors that came from Spain.

------------------------------

TOMAS GONZALEZ VALLEJO DE JALOSTOTITLAN JALISCO NACIDO EN ESPANA

HOLA A TODOS LOS MIEMBROS
ESTOY BUSCANDO INFORMACION DE TOMAS GONZALEZ VALLEJO HIJO DE IGNACIO GONZALEZ Y FAUSTINA VALLEJO EL NACIO EN COCA SEGOVIA ESPANA EN EL ANO 1817 SI ALGIEN TIENE ALGUNA INFORMACION DE SUS DESENDIENTES SE LOS AGRADECDERE INFINITAMENTE.
UN CALUROSO SALUDO.

LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.

GODINEZ and BRIONES

Tuesday, 11 Nov 2008

Dear Daniel--

My husband is related to Juan GODINEZ born about 1660 and married about 1684 to Micaela de Estrada. Their son Antonio GODINES was baptized 25 Mar 1685 in Ocotlan, Jalisco and married 6 Mar 1707, in La Barca to Manuela de LOMELIN, who was the daughter of Juan Baptista de OROSCO and Beatris VASQUES.

I have done extensive research in the past 30 plus years. I would be interested in hearing about your lines of GODINEZ. There is also another family of Godinez that was living in the Ranchoviejo area of Atotonilco el Alto. That is now the village of Santa Elena, I believe.

I have a number of BRIONES names. They are not on my husband's direct line but apparently married into other families. I have tracked them because of their LOMELIN connection. Some of these names are to be found in the Ranchovijo area, as mentioned above.

Thanks for your email and I will be looking forward to your next one.

Sincerely,
Patricia Burton
San Diego, Ca.

--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Daniel Briones wrote:

> From: Daniel Briones
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: La Barca Jalisco Briseño, GODINEZ, BARRAGAN
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 3:19 PM
> I am related to the Godinez family coming out of La Barca.
>
> Daniel Briones> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:16:25
> -0800> From: canprin@yahoo.com> To:
> research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros
> Ranchos] La Barca Jalisco Briseño, GODINEZ, BARRAGAN>
> > Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008> > Dear Canito--> > I
> am going to Santa Rita, Ayotlan, Jalisco, for one week at
> the end of November. One of the names you are apparently
> interested in is Briseno and so am I. Here is what I
> have:> > Atilano GODINEZ son of> Claudio GODINEZ
> and Casimira MACIEL> > Married 11 Nov 1858 in La
> Barca, Jalisco, to> > Paula BRISENO daughter of>
> > Antonio BRISENO and Andrea JIMENEZ> > Children of
> Atilano and Paula:> > 1. Maria Florencia GODINEZ
> baptized 28 Oct 1861 in Ayo el Chico> > 2. Maria
> Placida GODINEZ baptized 13 Oct 1867 in Ayo el Chico >
> > 3. Maria Delfina GODINEZ baptized 30 Dec 1869 in Ayo el
> Chico> mar. to Ysabel BRISENO son of Tomas BRICENO and
> Ysabel NAVARRO> child of Ysabel and Delfina was:> Jose
> Margarito BRISENO born 4 Dec 1885 in Santa Rita, Ayo el
> Chico> who married Leodegracia BERNA on > 10 May 1909
> in Ayo el Chico, Jalisco> > 4. Serapio GODINEZ born
> 1872? > mar. Maria Juana NUNEZ daug. of Victor NUNEZ and
> Luis GODINEZ> child of Serapio and Maria Juana was:>
> Maria Guadalupe GODINEZ 22 Dec 1915 in Santa Rita, Ayo el
> Chico> > 5. Pragedis GODINEZ born 1875?> mar.
> Dolores GONZALEZ daug. of Gumesindo GONZALEZ and Refugio
> PEREZ> their child Leonor GODINEZ born 23 Jan 1920 in
> Santa Rita, > Ayo el Chico, Jalisco> > These are
> not my GODINEZ lines but with the families coming from La
> Barca into Santa Rita, it is all rather interesting to me.
> Besides, I am researching these lines for a fellow who is
> GODINEZ.> > Another family name I am interested in is
> BARRAGAN and they seem to have been in El Carmen, La Barca,
> Jalisco.> > One of my friends, named Esther has
> ancestors in Govenador and Portezuelo, which are also in the
> municipio of La Barca.> > Does any of this ring a bell
> with you?> > Sincerely,> Patricia Burton> San
> Diego, Ca.> > > > > > > > > >
> > --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Canito
> wrote:> > > From:
> Canito > > Subject:
> [Nuestros Ranchos] La Barca Jalisco - Castañeda, Cerda,
> Briseño, Pantoja> > To:
> research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > Date: Wednesday,
> October 1, 2008, 12:36 PM> > Hola a todos, soy nuevo
> en el grupo y estoy investigando a> > mis ancestros
> que vivieron en La Barca, Jalisco > > > > La
> información que he logrado recopilar se encuentra> >
> publicada en http:/castanedadelreal.myheritage.com; de>
> > momento la información con la que cuento esta
> basada> > solamente en información verbal y en
> consultas en la base> > de datos de FamilySearch.>
> > > > A continuación muestro un extracto de mi
> investigación:> > > > 4. Moisés Castañeda
> Briseño nació el 4 Sep. 1915 en> > La Barca,
> Jalisco5 y murió el 22 Dic. 1998 en Guadalajara,> >
> Jalisco6. El se casó con María De La Luz Cerda Pantoja
> el> > 11 May. 1940 en La Barca, Jalisco. > >
> Padre: 8. Francisco Castañeda Rodríguez nació> > en
> 1892 en La Barca, Jalisco y murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > Madre: 9. María De La Luz Briseño
> Briseño> > nació en 1895 en La Barca, Jalisco y
> murió el 25 Oct. 1966> > en México, DF7.> >
> > > 5. María De La Luz Cerda Pantoja nació el 15
> Ene. 1923> > en La Barca, Jalisco8 y murió el 6 Oct.
> 1988 en> > Guadalajara, Jalisco9. > > Padre: 10.
> Placido Cerda Hernández nació en> > 1891 en La
> Barca, Jalisco y murió el 26 Ene. 1963 en La> >
> Barca, Jalisco.> > Madre: 11. Ramona Pantoja
> Rodríguez nació en La> > Barca, Jalisco y murió el
> 5 Oct. 1965 en Guadalajara,> > Jalisco10.> >
> > > 6. Rogelio Beltrán López nació el 16 Sep. 1916
> en Cd.> > Obregón, Sonora y murió el 13 Feb. 1999 en
> Cd. Obregón,> > Sonora. El se casó con Francisca
> Soto Sepúlveda. > > Padre: 12. Antonio Beltrán
> Beltrán murió en> > una fecha desconocida.> >
> Madre: 13. López murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > > > 7. Francisca Soto Sepúlveda
> nació el 3 Dic. 1921. > > Padre: 14. Santiago Soto
> murió en una fecha> > desconocida.> > Madre:
> 15. Delfina Sepúlveda murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > > > 8. Francisco Castañeda
> Rodríguez nació en 1892 en La> > Barca, Jalisco y
> murió en una fecha desconocida. El se> > casó con
> María De La Luz Briseño Briseño.> > Otros eventos
> en la vida de Francisco Castañeda> > Rodríguez>
> > Bautizo11 5 Abr 1892 La Barca, Jalisco> > Padre:
> 16. Alberto Castañeda nació en 1856 en> > La Barca,
> Jalisco y murió en una fecha desconocida.> > Madre:
> 17. María Rodríguez nació en La Barca,> > Jalisco y
> murió en una fecha desconocida.> > > > 9.
> María De La Luz Briseño Briseño nació en 1895 en>
> > La Barca, Jalisco y murió el 25 Oct. 1966 en México,
> DF12.> > > > Otros eventos en la vida de María
> De La Luz Briseño> > Briseño> > Bautizo13 29
> Nov 1895 La Barca, Jalisco> > Padre: 18. Trinidad
> Briceno Cortéz nació en> > 1870 en La Barca, Jalisco
> y murió en una fecha desconocida.> > Madre: 19.
> Petronila Briceno González nació en> > 1869 en La
> Barca, Jalisco y murió en una fecha desconocida.> >
> > > 10. Placido Cerda Hernández nació en 1891 en La
> Barca,> > Jalisco y murió el 26 Ene. 1963 en La
> Barca, Jalisco. El se> > casó con Ramona Pantoja
> Rodríguez. Otros eventos> > en la vida de Placido
> Cerda Hernández> > Bautizo14 7 Oct 1891 La Barca,
> Jalisco> > Padre: 20. Felipe Cerda murió en una
> fecha> > desconocida.> > Madre: 21. Virginia
> Hernández murió en una> > fecha desconocida.>
> > > > 11. Ramona Pantoja Rodríguez nació en La
> Barca,> > Jalisco y murió el 5 Oct. 1965 en
> Guadalajara, Jalisco15. > > > > Padre: 22.
> Pantoja murió en una fecha> > desconocida.> >
> Madre: 23. Rodríguez murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > > > 12. Antonio Beltrán
> Beltrán murió en una fecha> > desconocida. El se
> casó con 2da López. > > > > 13. López murió
> en una fecha desconocida. > > > > 14. Santiago
> Soto murió en una fecha desconocida. El se> > casó
> con Delfina Sepúlveda. > > > > 15. Delfina
> Sepúlveda murió en una fecha desconocida. > > >
> > > > 16. Alberto Castañeda nació en 1856 en La
> Barca,> > Jalisco y murió en una fecha desconocida.
> El se casó con> > María Rodríguez el 16 Ago. 1881
> en La Barca, Jalisco16. > > > > Otros eventos en
> la vida de Alberto Castañeda> > Bautizo17 7 Abr 1856
> La Barca, Jalisco> > Padre: 24. Francisco Castañeda
> murió en una> > fecha desconocida.> > Madre:
> 25. Lucia Davalos murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > > > 17. María Rodríguez nació
> en La Barca, Jalisco y> > murió en una fecha
> desconocida. > > > > 18. Trinidad Briceno
> Cortéz nació en 1870 en La Barca,> > Jalisco y
> murió en una fecha desconocida. El se casó con> >
> Petronila Briceno González. > > Otros eventos en la
> vida de Trinidad Briceno Cortéz> > Bautizo18 12 Jun
> 1870 La Barca, Jalisco> > Padre: 26. Ygnacio Briceno
> Luna nació en La> > Barca, Jalisco y murió en una
> fecha desconocida.> > Madre: 27. Trinidad Cortéz
> Padilla murió en una> > fecha desconocida.> >
> > > 19. Petronila Briceno González nació en 1869 en
> La> > Barca, Jalisco y murió en una fecha
> desconocida. > > Otros eventos en la vida de Petronila
> Briceno González> > Bautizo19 2 Jun 1869 La Barca,
> Jalisco> > Padre: 28. Juan Briceno murió en una
> fecha> > desconocida.> > Madre: 29. Pascuala
> Gonzales López nació en> > 1843 en La Barca, Jalisco
> y murió en una fecha desconocida.> > > > 20.
> Felipe Cerda murió en una fecha desconocida. El se> >
> casó con Virginia Hernández. > > > > 21.
> Virginia Hernández murió en una fecha desconocida.>
> > > > > > 22. Pantoja murió en una fecha
> desconocida. El se casó> > con Rodríguez. > >
> > > 23. Rodríguez murió en una fecha desconocida.
> > > > > 24. Francisco Castañeda murió en una
> fecha> > desconocida. El se casó con Lucia Davalos.
> > > > > 25. Lucia Davalos murió en una fecha
> desconocida. > > > > 26. Ygnacio Briceno Luna
> nació en La Barca, Jalisco y> > murió en una fecha
> desconocida. El se casó con Trinidad> > Cortéz
> Padilla, hija de Matias Cortéz y Andrea Padilla, el>
> > 12 Feb. 1866 en La Barca, Jalisco20. > > Padre:
> 30. Antonio Briceno murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > Madre: 31. Pantaleona Luna murió en
> una fecha> > desconocida.> > > > 27.
> Trinidad Cortéz Padilla murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida. > > Padre: 32. Matias Cortéz murió en
> una fecha> > desconocida.> > Madre: 33. Andrea
> Padilla murió en una fecha> > desconocida.> >
> > > 28. Juan Briceno murió en una fecha desconocida.
> El se> > casó con Pascuala Gonzales López el 6 Jun.
> 1866 en La> > Barca, Jalisco. > > Padre: 34.
> Patricio Briceno murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > Madre: 35. María Guadalupe Corona
> murió en una> > fecha desconocida.> > > >
> 29. Pascuala Gonzales López21 nació en 1843 en La> >
> Barca, Jalisco y murió en una fecha desconocida. > >
> Otros eventos en la vida de Pascuala Gonzales López>
> > Bautizo22 28 May 1843 La Barca, Jalisco> > Padre:
> 36. Antonio Gonzáles murió en una fecha> >
> desconocida.> > Madre: 37. Lus López murió en una
> fecha> > desconocida.> > > > 30. Antonio
> Briceno murió en una fecha desconocida. El> > se
> casó con Pantaleona Luna. > > > > 31.
> Pantaleona Luna murió en una fecha desconocida. > >
> > > 32. Matias Cortéz murió en una fecha
> desconocida. El> > se casó con Andrea Padilla. >
> > > > 33. Andrea Padilla murió en una fecha
> desconocida. > > > > 34. Patricio Briceno murió
> en una fecha desconocida. El> > se casó con María
> Guadalupe Corona. > > > > 35. María Guadalupe
> Corona murió en una fecha> > desconocida. > >
> > > 36. Antonio Gonzáles murió en una fecha
> desconocida.> > El se casó con Lus López. > >
> > > 37. Lus López murió en una fecha desconocida.
> > > > > Saludos !!!!> > > > >
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