Nuestros Ranchos Site

http://www.findagrave.com/

i found two relatives using the above site.

joseph

I think the Lulu solution may work for him on upcoming projects, except for the fact that 
shipping the books to Mexico is very cost prohibitive and would therefore make it a bit 
less viable than it would for someone looking to distribute them in the United States... i.e. 
his market in Mexico is not going to go online to order books from the U.S. that will be 
delivered by the Mexican postal system.

The problem that he has with the reprinting of his HIstoria de Totatiche is that he does not 
have an electronic manuscript.  He typed out the whole book and the State of Jalisco's 
Ministry fo Culture transcribed, edited it and had it typeset for printing.  They will now not 
share with him those materials as they consider them their property, though they have 
given him permission to reprint the material on his own.  So basically he is left with having 
the book photographed and reprinted from those photographs if I understand him 
correctly.

I am looking at publishing a historical

http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/sneak_peak_David_E_Rencher.pdf

here is a pdf file sent to me by my FHC director on the Scanstone project

joseph

I just got off the phone with my aunt Emilia in New
Mexico.  She called to thank me for the present I sent her, and as usual I started to pump her about the family history.  She is the last of her siblings (my Mother's sister), the only relative of her generation I have left) and she is 92, but sharp as a tack.  We were discussing the fact that her grandmother could read and write, which was unusual for a Hispanic woman born in 1865.  My aunt said my great-grandmother was very smart and talented, not only could read and write, but could sew, cook, make wine, make

My de la Torres were also from the Jerez area. My ancestress Doña Juana de la Torre was married to Miguel Olague in the 1600s. We're probably related. Cool! Marge:)

On Jan 6, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Susana Leniski wrote:

Margarita:

 

My great-grandmother was De la Torre. I'm studing last names like Carlos de Godoy, Muro, Carrillo, Salinas and of course de la torre with many lines.

 

regards

 

susana

----- Original Message -----

From: Margarita Vallazza

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:45 PM

So what is your Jerezana great-grandma's surname? Marge:)

On Jan 6, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Susana Leniski wrote:

On my part, My grand mother Maria de los Angeles Cansino, was the daughter of Don Enrique Cansino. He was the brother of Eduardo's father. My great grandfather emigrated from Malaga, in the Andalusia region of Spain in 1880's. He relocated to Zacatecas, Mexico. He married my great grandmother who was from Jerez, Zacatecas. Genealogy that now I'm researching. My great grandfather left his whole family back in Spain.

Rita Hayworth was not only an excellent and beautiful
actress, she had talent.  Any Hispanic that made it in
Hollywood in the '40s had be super beautiful and
talented. 

Regarding red hair...
Red hair runs in my wife's family; her
great---grandfather was also from Andalusia (Seville).
 Also, I've seen a number of families from Los Altos,
Jalisco, with red hair.  Like I said, the women from
Los Altos are very beautiful.  My wife gets real upset
whenever a gringo asks her if she is Spanish; she
always tells them "I'm Mexican, not Spanish"!

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Susana Leniski  wrote:

> Some members mentioned Rita Hayworth (Margarita
> Cansino), and I decided to write about her. 
> She was the daughter of Eduardo Cansino. He was a
> dancer born in Seville, Spain. In the Andalusia
> Region. He immigrated to America (New York) where he
> married. Margarita was born in New York city. Years
> later, the family moved to Tijuana, Mexico. Here,
>

 

Mary:

 

You are correct.  You didn't find it in the dictionary because of the spelling,  the word is:  "Hocico" and it means snout.

 

John Gonzalez

Wildomar, CA.

 

1gnzlz@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Mary Allen

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:45 AM

Subject: RE: [ranchos] Ojos, Dientes, Lengua, Cabeza

I'm surprised I could not find the word "osico" in my dictionary.  But as I recall, it is not really bad in itself.  Correct me if I am wrong, but it means "snout" or the mouth of an animal.  What makes it "bad" is who says it, to whom, why and how.   When the mother said it, it just surprised the students because
they didn't expect it of her.  It's not something a nice person would say to others.    As a teacher, I have heard it on the playground and they were fighting words.   

 

Mary

 

I have an ancestor named Pablo Alverto Morillo from Las Tetillas, Jerez, Zacatecas. He married my ancestress Juliana del Carmen Villavicencio but I don't know when. They were the parents of Maria Antonia Morillo and of Joseph Sostenes Morillo. Maria Antonia married one of my Saldivar ancestors. I'd like more info on the Morillos, such as who are HIS parents and where are they from?!!! Marge, who gets frustrated at the adobe walls she finds....grrrrr.:(

  Father:  BARTHOLOME DE CARDENAS

  Mother:  CATARINA MORILLO



I have some additional information on Bartholome DE CARDENAS and

Catarina Morillo's family if you would like to see it.  I am not

related to this family, as far as I know, but I have been holding on

to this information because my 6th great-grand father was Bartholome

De Cardenas married to Barbara Gutierres during this same time period

in Colotlan.  I can't imagine there being two Bartholome De Cardenas,

so I thought perhaps they were the same person and he

Peggy:

There are a number of Tuxpans... There is actually another Tuxpan in 
Jalisco, which is in the south of the state and there is also a 
Tuxpan (perhaps the best known one) in Nayarit.

There are a great number of RAMOS in the Totatiche area... most I 
think descendant from one of the Tlaxcaltec families that came in 
1591 to Colotlan.  Mine is not from these lineages but rather from a 
name change that occured around 1785.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Hey!  I, just recently, found that I DO have a connection in 
Totatiche........I have ancestors, Jose Leonisio Hernandes married 
Maria Manuela Ramos married in Totatiche on 04/271768.  Although I 
can't find Maria Manuela's record of birth there, I have a record for 
her brother and sister: Joseph Alvino Ramos, born 03/12/1759 and 
Maria Martina Ramos, born 11/14/1756.
> I also have  a record for Jose Leonisio's sister, Maria Guadalupe 
Hernandes, born 12/26/1755.
> 
> Can I add these

You are correct, Mary.  The reason you didn't found the word is
because the correct spelling is hocico.

And it is not a bad word in itself.  But it is an impolite and even
offensive expression to say to others because it implies that you're
dealing with animals.  

It is as impolite as asking someone before entering your house to
"límpiate las patas", because as we know only animals have "patas" and
humans have "pies".

These kind of expressions are acceptable only jockingly with close
friends or sometimes they reflect a mother's frustration with a
difficult child.

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
> I'm surprised I could not find the word "osico" in my dictionary. 
But as I recall, it is not really bad in itself.  Correct me if I am
wrong, but it means "snout" or the mouth of an animal.  What makes it
"bad" is who says it, to whom, why and how.   When the mother said it,
it just surprised the students because they didn't expect it of

I don't know spanish :o(

so what did she really say?  If it's too bad use the @%#%$%^#@^  symbols, please.

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Margarita Vallazza
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:30 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos, Dientes, Lengua, Cabeza

When my dad was teaching my mother Spanish, he was teaching her bad words. She was taking citizenship class and the