Godina Family

Angie,
 
People used to be named according to the Calendar of Saints, no?  My
mother always spoke about her "saint day" and other people's.  Everyone's
saint day seemed to be a big deal then (my mother was born in 1902) and parties
were held, sort of like birthday parties, only you celebrated the day that saint
was on some calendar.  She was Luisa and guys named Luis celebrated their
saint day at the same time.  she didn't marry a Luis though.  Could it
be that young people met at church on their saint day, got acquainted and
visited each other later?
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:56
AM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Godina
Family

Angie:
 
Re: Similiar names, you are not
alone.
 
What about fathers naming theirs sons after
themselves?   I've four : Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo!
 
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Batch number searches.

nomas para los estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes puede
verlos en Ranchos1, Links, Batch Numbers:



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/links/Batch_Numbers_001129202059/



joseph



José Román González López wrote:


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Hi Jonathan:
 
In regards to "scanned
copy, of the 'Parish and Vital

Records List', for Mexico
".
I am interested in it, and
would like to know how to access it. Or if you are distributing it, I
would like to know how much it costs.
 
Thanks.
 
JRGL.
Mexico City.


mexicanfhr wrote:

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Jose,



A "Batch Number Search", is certain, way to search the IGI at
FamilySearch.org...


Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a Internet y 2GB
extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx


--

Batch number searches.

Hi Jonathan:
 
In regards to "scanned copy, of the 'Parish and Vital
Records List', for Mexico
".
I am interested in it, and would like to know how to access it. Or if you are distributing it, I would like to know how much it costs.
 
Thanks.
 
JRGL.
Mexico City.

mexicanfhr wrote:
Jose,

A "Batch Number Search", is certain, way to search the IGI at FamilySearch.org...


Do You Yahoo!?
La mejor conexión a Internet y 2GB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx

Godina Family

Angie:

 

Re: Similiar names, you are not
alone.

 

What about fathers naming theirs sons after
themselves?   I've four : Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo!

 



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To the Group,
Off topic...is it just my
family or has anyone else noticed that
people tended to marry people with
similar names, ie Gregorio married
Gregoria.  I have lots of
Antonio's married to Antonia's, Felipe's
married to Felipa's, ...the list
goes on...

Angie Godina


Similar First Names: Re: Godina Family



aajay1073 wrote:

To the Group,

Off topic...is it just my family or has anyone else noticed that
people tended to marry people with similar names, ie Gregorio married
Gregoria. I have lots of Antonio's married to Antonia's, Felipe's
married to Felipa's, ...the list goes on...


I've noticed the same thing with some of my Francisco/Francisca,
Antonio/Antonia, In my situation I don't see it that often but
occasionally.


joseph







Godina Family

John,

Well, I am glad you are having success with Legacy...

Sorry, but Gregorio Godina and Gregoria Martinez don't sound 
familar.  The only Gregorio Godina I have in my family tree was 
married to Maria Remigia Huerta on 14 DEC 1808.  His birth must have 
been between 1771-1790.  His parents were Mauricio Casimiro Godina 
Cardenas christened on 4 JUN 1742 and married to Maria Rosalia de la 
Luz Texeda on 13 MAR 1771.  I am actually only related to these 
Godina's through the Cardenas family.  I have been trying to tie my 
Godina line to this line without success.  I am more closely related 
to Maria Remigia Huerta who's parents are Jose Guadalupe Huerta 
married to Juana Maria Sandoval Castaneda christened on 23 MAR 1770 
and married on 8 MAR 1788.  This last couple are my 4th great-grand 
parents.

To the Group,
Off topic...is it just my family or has anyone else noticed that 
people tended to marry people with similar names, ie Gregorio married 
Gregoria.  I have lots of Antonio's

PAF 5 index problem, fix in word

Hi  Angie:
 
Thank you for the information and I appreciate
the time you have taken to look at this problem.   I 'll give it a
try.
 
  I believe I've found something easier and
better, I switched from PAF-5 to Legacy!  WOW, what a differenc like going
from driving a Ford  to a Cadillac!  This program is loaded with
features not found in PAF-5 , and the best part of it is,  that it is
FREE.  Now all I have to do is spend a few hours learning this new
program.
 
While I am here...I've started looking for
my maternal side of the family.  My grandfather's name was Priciliano
Cerros Godina.  I've been able to follow his mother's side ,
Victoriana Godina, all the way back to Gregorio Godina, born in 1814 and married
to Gregoria Martinez in Colotlan, Jalisco on 27, Aug, 1834.  I am hoping to
follow the Cerro line but have encountered some difficulites with my great
grandfather:  Jose Maria Cerro, married to Victoriana Godina.  I am
waiting for a film from LDS to check his

PAF 5 index problem, fix in word

John,

I have had the same problem.  If you print directly it comes out 
fine, so its kind of odd that it doesn't work when you print to file.

My solution has been.  Open the document in Microsoft Word.  Place 
the cursor at the end of the document.  Create a page break if you 
want the index to appear on a new page.  Select the 'Insert' menu, 
then the 'Reference' option, then the 'Index and Tables...' option.  
Select the options you want to see in your index.  Specifically the 
way you want your index formatted.  Test out a couple of options, to 
see what you like...

Hope this information helps...

Good Luck,
Angie Godina

P.S.  This is my second try at a response...the first time my browser 
errored out and closed itself...therefore if this message ends up 
being a duplicate...sorry...oh well...

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I 
know 
> we have a number of members using PAF

Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia

The surnames Romero de Chavez, Torre-Ledesma, and Torres will be 
published in Tomo IV.  The only volumes that were ever published 
originally were I and II. 

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Linda R Romero  wrote:
>
> Will you please check for my family names from Jalisco??  They are  
> Romero and de la Torre from the Guadalajara and Tepatitlan areas 
of  
> Jalisco.  I'm not sure if they started there or moved there from  
> other areas. They were there at least from the mid to late 1800's.
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> 
> Linda Romero
> 
> 
> Maria Cortez wrote:
>    The books cover the first Spanish settlers of Los Altos de 
Jalisco.
> Some families do extend to other states, so you might find some of
> your ancestry covered in one of the chapters.  I have a copy of Tomo
> I which contains a "Plan general de la obra" for all the subsequent
> Tomos (II - VI) and has all the surnames covered.  If anyone wants 
me
> to check for any surnames send me an e-mail

PAF 5

Thank you Victor:

 

  I had already thought of doing just that,
but I am in no hurry and I would like to hear what the experts have to say about
PAF first.  I will be getting Legacy later.



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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:22
PM

Subject: [ranchos] Re: PAF 5


John,

If you can't wait for the PAF software team to
find a solution, I
recommend you download the free edition of Legacy Family
Tree.  You
can import your gedcom file and then print the same kind of
book report.


href="http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/">http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/


Victor

PAF 5

John,

If you can't wait for the PAF software team to find a solution, I
recommend you download the free edition of Legacy Family Tree.  You
can import your gedcom file and then print the same kind of book report.

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for taking the time to look into the problem.  I was
thinking the same thing that you are, that it could be a software problem
> with PAF 5. 
> 1gnzlz@v...





PAF 5

Thank you for taking the time to look into the
problem.  I was thinking the same thing that you are, that it could be a
software problem

with PAF 5. 



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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:02
AM

Subject: [ranchos] Re: PAF 5


John,

That must be a bug in the software.  I
just tried running the same
procedure and the same thing happens:  I
can preview the Index but
then it doesn't appear in the Word
document.  I'm using PAF 5. Anyone?

Victor
Reynosa,
Mexico

PAF 5

John,

That must be a bug in the software.  I just tried running the same
procedure and the same thing happens:  I can preview the Index but
then it doesn't appear in the Word document.  I'm using PAF 5. Anyone?

Victor
Reynosa, Mexico

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I know 
> we have a number of members using PAF, I am hoping somebody can help me.
> 
> I am trying to create a file using the "Books"option and would like to 
> include an index to go along with it.
> 
> I can create the file and its index by selecting the "Print to a file" 
> option and by selecting the "index" option also. I preview it,  then I 
> save it, but when I look at the saved file, the index is missing!
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas?  Can it be a limitation to this 
> program?  I have tried using Wordpad and also Microsoft Word to look at 
> the saved file, same results.
> 
> Any help or suggestions

PAF 5

Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I know 
we have a number of members using PAF, I am hoping somebody can help me.

I am trying to create a file using the "Books"option and would like to 
include an index to go along with it.

I can create the file and its index by selecting the "Print to a file" 
option and by selecting the "index" option also. I preview it,  then I 
save it, but when I look at the saved file, the index is missing!

What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas?  Can it be a limitation to this 
program?  I have tried using Wordpad and also Microsoft Word to look at 
the saved file, same results.

Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
Thank you. 

John Gonzalez
Wildomar CA. 




successful trip & Garana surname

Thanks, Marge, for the suggestion.  I'll try it.  Mary

Margarita Vallazza wrote:
Have you tried another variant? Guarana? marge:)
On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Mary Allen wrote:

> Hello Victor,
>  
> I have searched the surname Grana but found nothing.  I do know that
> Jose Adalberto Garana was born in 1873 and that his first child was
> born in 1905.  That leads me to believe that he probably married @
> 1904.  Of course, I recall once when he made my grandmother angry, she
> accused him of being Cuban.  But, searching Cuba didn't help.
> Yesterday, I had an e-mail from a person who said that a  Garrana had
> gone from Malta to Lebanon and then possibly to Mexico.  I am working
> on
that.
>  
> I have one other possibility. Maybe I can find information through the
> Jesuits. There may be a central house in Mexico that would have
> membership files.  I have that as one of my tasks.  In fact, that may
> be the only way to find him.  I really suspect that

successful trip & Garana surname

Have you tried another variant? Guarana? marge:)

On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Mary Allen wrote:


Hello Victor,

 

I have searched the surname Grana but found nothing.  I do know that Jose Adalberto Garana was born in 1873 and that his first child was born in 1905.  That leads me to believe that he probably married @ 1904.  Of course, I recall once when he made my grandmother angry, she accused him of being Cuban.  But, searching Cuba didn't help. Yesterday, I had an e-mail from a person who said that a  Garrana had gone from Malta to Lebanon and then possibly to Mexico.  I am working on that.

 

I have one other possibility. Maybe I can find information through the Jesuits. There may be a central house in Mexico that would have membership files.  I have that as one of my tasks.  In fact, that may be the only way to find him.  I really suspect that Garana was not his real name at all or it may have been his mother's name.  My grandfather was so intelligent, so educated, so aristocratic

Dear Myrtle


I would highly recommend listening to the Dear Myrtle Genealogy podcast
for information that can help us in our research. Specifically she had a
great show with some powerful resources on recording "Oral History."
have a listen to this podcast and all of her shows:


http://ia300036.us.archive.org/1/items/DearMYRTLEs_Family_History_Hour_Internet_Radio_Show_13_Dec_2005/DearMYRTLE2005Dec13.mp3

[if the above URL wraps to the next line you'll have to rebuild it]

or you can access it from here as well:
http://www.dearmyrtle.com/05/1213r.htm


here is the URL for her show in general:

http://www.dearmyrtle.com/listen.htm

joseph





successful trip & Garana surname

Hello Victor,
 
I have searched the surname Grana but found nothing.  I do know that Jose Adalberto Garana was born in 1873 and that his first child was born in 1905.  That leads me to believe that he probably married @ 1904.  Of course, I recall once when he made my grandmother angry, she accused him of being Cuban.  But, searching Cuba didn't help. Yesterday, I had an e-mail from a person who said that a  Garrana had gone from Malta to Lebanon and then possibly to Mexico.  I am working on that.
 
I have one other possibility. Maybe I can find information through the Jesuits. There may be a central house in Mexico that would have membership files.  I have that as one of my tasks.  In fact, that may be the only way to find him.  I really suspect that Garana was not his real name at all or it may have been his mother's name.  My grandfather was so intelligent, so
educated, so aristocratic and very difficult to get along with and his past seemed obsured by vagueness and mystery.
 

successful trip & Garana surname

Mary,

I guess this is just an idle question, but have you searched the
surname Grana and/or Grama?  

Also, if the person in question was associated with the Augustinians
and the Jesuits, have you considered the possibility that he was not
born in México but elsewhere?

Just some thoughts!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
> Hi Victor
>   I know her!  You found me!  My family and friends call me Nancy. 
You'll also find my brother Edward placing similar notices everywhere.
 We have been doing this for years and years with no results.
>    
>   Mary  
> 
> "v.h.villarreal"  wrote:
>   Mary,
> 
> Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
> surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.
> 
> Read the following:
> 
> [quote]
> Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
> information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
> grandmother PETRA

successful trip & Garana surname

Hi Victor
I know her!  You found me!  My family and friends call me Nancy.  You'll also find my brother Edward placing similar notices everywhere.  We have been doing this for years and years with no results.
 
Mary 

"v.h.villarreal" wrote:

Mary,

Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.

Read the following:

[quote]
Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
grandmother PETRA ROMERO GONZALEZ (GARANA). She lived in Salinas del
Penon Blanco,
SLP,SLP and in the city of San Luis Potosi.

She was the child of VICTOR ROMERO GALVAN and the grandchild of MONICO
ROMERO CARRERA who may have lived in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco.

Of JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA I know only that he was somehow associated
with the Augustinians as a child and that later he was a jesuit
seminarian. He was never ordained. He had to leave San Luis

successful trip & Garana surname

Mary,

Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.

Read the following:

[quote]
Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
grandmother PETRA ROMERO GONZALEZ (GARANA). She lived in Salinas del
Penon Blanco, SLP,SLP and in the city of San Luis Potosi.

She was the child of VICTOR ROMERO GALVAN and the grandchild of MONICO
ROMERO CARRERA who may have lived in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco.

Of JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA I know only that he was somehow associated
with the Augustinians as a child and that later he was a jesuit
seminarian. He was never ordained. He had to leave San Luis Potosi
with Petra and three children in 1917 for being too outspoken. I have
some of his writings and I can see why some would find him
uncomfortable to their cause.

Nancy37710
[end of quote]

Victor





Batch number searches.

Jose,

A "Batch Number Search", is certain, way to search the IGI at
FamilySearch.org, where you can narrow your search parameters, down to 
the City and Parish Level.  Provided, that you know the batch numbers,
for the area where you are searching.  There are two places, to find
the Batch Numbers, one is the IGI itself (as you perform searches, you
can look at the bottom of the screen and see the source information,
such as film number, and the batch number, if one has been assigned.),
the second way, is by looking at the "Parish and Vital Records List",
that is only available on microfiche at your local FHC, if they still
have it.

The CD mentioned, is a resource disc, that I have compiled from
different sources, such as genealogy conferences, websites, and other
sources.  Because, there is lots of information available, about
hispanic research, but there is no central location, for it all. 
Also, on the disc, there is a scanned copy, of the "Parish and Vital
Records List", for

successful trip

Mary,

Glad to hear of your fruitful trip to Guanajuato.  Thanks for sharing
your experiences with all of us.  Enjoy the Holydays.  Peace!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
>     Hello!
>    
>   I actually returned on December 8 from Mexico City and San Felipe
"Torres Mochas", Guanajuato,  but I believe a large piece of my heart
is still in Mexico. That trip has totally changed my life. Really. I
don't really know where to begin because it was such an incredible
experience. 
>    






Juaregui's/Xauregui's

DOES  ANYONE IN THE GROUP HAVE JAUREGUI FAMILY IN CHIH, CHIH?  I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR TARGET AREA BUT I HAVEN'T HAD ANY LUCK FINDING THE BIRTH PLACE FOR MERCEDES JAUREGUI WHO MARRIED GABRIELA MOLINA ABT ABOUT 1880.        YOLANDA M PEREZ

Alicia Carrillo wrote:


lareina2@... wrote:
Hi Alicia--
 
Would you look up one name for me in your book?  I have an ancestor, Maria Manuela Duran, who was married in 1732 in Tlaltenango, so I guess she was born around 1715
or so.  Her marriage record notes that she was born in Nochistlan, but it did not note  her parents' names.  She married Domingo Perez.
 
Rosalinda,
 
I took the time to do the lookup and I find that all of the Maria Duran's in this book were born prior to 1700. It may be that she's the daughter of one of these Duranes. The name Duran is very prominent in Nochistlan, Teocaltiche and Xalostitlan.
 
Capitulo 2: Descendencia de Juan Ximon Duran y Regina de Aguayo, has many references to many given names for