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"Starting with a single cellist on the floor of the National Air and Space Museum's "Milestones of Flight" gallery, and swelling to 120 musicians, The U.S. Air Force Band exhilarated museum visitors with its first-ever flash mob.The four-minute performance featured an original arrangement of "Jesus, Joy of Man's Desiring/Joy to the World," led by the band's commander and conductor, Col. Larry H. Lang. Unsuspecting museum visitors including tourists and school groups were astonished as instrumentalists streamed into the gallery from behind airplanes and space capsules,and vocalists burst into song from the Museum's second floor balcony."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-cKE8pyfcZc

MERRY CHRISTMAS.....

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1763 plano of Veracruz, Castillo Ulua, Navios (ships) with names

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Found this plano on page 48 of sevilla archives of the layout of Veracruz, Castillo Ulua and several ships with their names such as:

Concepcion
Soledad
Paquebot
Castilla
Arrogante
Flora
Tridente
Vencendor
Aguila
Villarra

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2zyvjbm.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/ooeq1.jpg

I have this link to look up navios of Spain:

http://www.todoababor.es/listado/index.htm

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General Digest, Vol 107, Issue 13

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Interrsante mis padres tienen Como apellido nungaray son apellidos Vasco Al
igual q esparza estube en Pamplona y fue intwresante collaborar
El dic 23, 2014 6:06 p.m.,
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:55:58 -0800
> From: Jose Legaspi
> To: "general@nuestrosranchos.org"
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] ?Espa?oles de la regi?n vasca?
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> Otra cosa, me gustar?a saber m?s de ti. ?Me relatas tu historia? Yo soy de
> Nochistl?n, Zacatecas ? la Primera Guadalajara. He estado viviendo en los
> EEUU desde los 14 a?os de edad. Curse licenciatura en Biolog?a y termine
> maestr?a en Microbiolog?a ? aunque no me gradu? al no terminar mi tesis. He
> estado en el mundo de los negociosos como due?o de una empresa que se
> dedica a la compra y administraci?n de plazas comerciales, tipo ?mall?. Ya
> llevamos diez a?os con una reuni?n familiar en Nochistl?n donde atraemos
> gente de todo Mexico, EEUU, Europa, y hasta de Asia. Mi inter?s geneal?gico
> ha sido sobre mis ancestros. Ha sido un trabajo arduo. Hemos encontrado que
> los Legaspi (Legazpi, Legaspe, de Legaspe, de Legazpi) han estado en
> Nochistl?n desde a principios o mediados del siglo XVII. Ha existido el
> apellido en Mexico desde 1528 cuando varios espa?oles influyentes
> comenzaron a visitar Nochistl?n y otras partes de la Nueva Galicia. En el
> Tuiche ? tierra ancestral de los Legaspi fue donde muri? Pedro de Alvarado
> y donde la batalla del Mixt?n sucedi? dando presencia a nativos que se
> rebelaron contra la invasi?n espa?ola. Estoy por tomarme mas tiempo en
> estos asuntos de historia y genealogicos que espero detallar y precisar de
> un modo cientifico.
>
>
> Saludos.
>
>
>
> *me quedo a tu disposicion,*
>
> *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
> *www.thelegaspi.com *
>
> *Montebello, CA. *
>
>
> 2014-12-17 13:14 GMT-08:00 :
>
> > Alfonso Reynoso Rabago
> >
> > Hola, Jos? de Jes?s:
> >
> > Quisiera comentar tu frase que dice: "En mi trabajo he encontrado por
> > varias fuentes que las gentes de la Nueva Galicia fueron espa?oles,
> > principalmente de la region Vasca". Yo he encontrado resultados un poco
> > diferentes: Estudiando un conjunto de familias con numerosos
> descendientes
> > en Los Altos de Jalisco, he encontrado al ubicarlos en el mapa de Espa?a
> > que todos ellos tuvieron su origen en la parte occidental de Espa?a desde
> > el norte (incluyendo los pa?ses vascos) hasta el sur. Ni uno solo de
> ellos
> > proviene del oriente de Espa?a, ni tampoco se concentran en un solo lugar
> > sino que se distribuyen de manera uniforme por todo el occidente de
> Espa?a.
> > Entiendo que esa parte de Espa?a era m?s pobre que la parte oriental y
> que
> > los que vinieron a los Altos de Jalisco lo hicieron por buscar una vida
> > mejor en el Nuevo Mundo.
> >
> > Con ello no quiero decirte que tus resultados est?n mal, sino que estos
> > son mis resultados y exclusivamente se refieren a lo que hoy en d?a
> > llamamos Los Altos de Jalisco.
> > Un saludo.
> > Alfonso Reynoso R?bago
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:04:51 -0800
> From: Jose Legaspi
> To: "general@nuestrosranchos.org"
> Cc: "general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] ?Ojos rubios o pelirrojos?
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> Roux frances para el color rojo. Aunque la traduccion formal de rojo es
> rouge. Puede que sea una descripcion del cabello.
>
> *Very sincerely yours,*
>
> *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
>
>
> 2014-12-06 6:07 GMT-08:00 :
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> > Alfonso Reynoso Rabago
> >
> > Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, Julieta. En mis aportes, emple? mal el
> > t?rmino "rubio", deb? haber empleado la voz "pelirrojo". En efecto, El
> > Diccionario de Real Academia define al rubio como "Dicho especialmente
> del
> > pelo: De color amarillento, parecido al del oro." Agradezco mucho la
> > correcci?n de mi error. Y totalmente de acuerdo contigo de que la
> expresi?n
> > francesa para rubio es "blond" o "blonde" en femenino.
> >
> > Sin embargo el problema en el documento comentado es que se diga que el
> > soldado descrito tiene los ojos "roux". ?Ojos pelirrojos? Hasta donde s?,
> > esa expresi?n no existe en franc?s como color de ojos. Investigar? mejor
> > con personas de habla francesa.
> >
> > Un saludo y mil gracias por la aclaraci?n.
> > Alfonso Reynoso R?bago
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:04:51 -0800
> From: Jose Legaspi
> To: "general@nuestrosranchos.org"
> Cc: "general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] ?Ojos rubios o pelirrojos?
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> Roux frances para el color rojo. Aunque la traduccion formal de rojo es
> rouge. Puede que sea una descripcion del cabello.
>
> *Very sincerely yours,*
>
> *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
>
>
> 2014-12-06 6:07 GMT-08:00 :
>
> > Alfonso Reynoso Rabago
> >
> > Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, Julieta. En mis aportes, emple? mal el
> > t?rmino "rubio", deb? haber empleado la voz "pelirrojo". En efecto, El
> > Diccionario de Real Academia define al rubio como "Dicho especialmente
> del
> > pelo: De color amarillento, parecido al del oro." Agradezco mucho la
> > correcci?n de mi error. Y totalmente de acuerdo contigo de que la
> expresi?n
> > francesa para rubio es "blond" o "blonde" en femenino.
> >
> > Sin embargo el problema en el documento comentado es que se diga que el
> > soldado descrito tiene los ojos "roux". ?Ojos pelirrojos? Hasta donde s?,
> > esa expresi?n no existe en franc?s como color de ojos. Investigar? mejor
> > con personas de habla francesa.
> >
> > Un saludo y mil gracias por la aclaraci?n.
> > Alfonso Reynoso R?bago
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:42:23 -0800
> From: Jose Legaspi
> To: "general@nuestrosranchos.org"
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] ?Espa?oles de la regi?n vasca?
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> Hola. Mis respetos en tu trabajo. Mi trabajo apenas ha comenzado. Me he
> basado en los estudios historicos que he visto sobre la Nueva Espa?a y
> Nueva Galicia, incluyendo libros de historia que pueden tener algo relativo
> pero no preciso ya que han salido mas puntos relevantes con las nuevas
> investigaciones, ergo, los de ADN. Me ha interesado mucho los vascos, por
> razones de familia y he seguido varios libros que relatan su influencia en
> el crecimiento del imperio Espa?ol. Me interesa mantener estrecho contacto
> contigo ya que a seguir yo las investigaciones, me late que tendr?s mucho
> que ofrecer. Gracias por tu trabajo.
>
> *Very sincerely yours,*
>
> *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
>
>
> 2014-12-17 13:14 GMT-08:00 :
>
> > Alfonso Reynoso Rabago
> >
> > Hola, Jos? de Jes?s:
> >
> > Quisiera comentar tu frase que dice: "En mi trabajo he encontrado por
> > varias fuentes que las gentes de la Nueva Galicia fueron espa?oles,
> > principalmente de la region Vasca". Yo he encontrado resultados un poco
> > diferentes: Estudiando un conjunto de familias con numerosos
> descendientes
> > en Los Altos de Jalisco, he encontrado al ubicarlos en el mapa de Espa?a
> > que todos ellos tuvieron su origen en la parte occidental de Espa?a desde
> > el norte (incluyendo los pa?ses vascos) hasta el sur. Ni uno solo de
> ellos
> > proviene del oriente de Espa?a, ni tampoco se concentran en un solo lugar
> > sino que se distribuyen de manera uniforme por todo el occidente de
> Espa?a.
> > Entiendo que esa parte de Espa?a era m?s pobre que la parte oriental y
> que
> > los que vinieron a los Altos de Jalisco lo hicieron por buscar una vida
> > mejor en el Nuevo Mundo.
> >
> > Con ello no quiero decirte que tus resultados est?n mal, sino que estos
> > son mis resultados y exclusivamente se refieren a lo que hoy en d?a
> > llamamos Los Altos de Jalisco.
> > Un saludo.
> > Alfonso Reynoso R?bago
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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Fabricas de Cigaros and Tabaco Mexico Colonial

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I have been going through the mapas/planos of Mexico in the Sevilla, Spain archives and have found so many interesting things.

I saw planos of buildings in Mexico where they produced Cigars. Also there is a map of the location of the cigar factories. The tobaco business in Mexico during colonial times?

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General Digest, Vol 107, Issue 4

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Mi familia viene de Los Altos de Jalisco entre mis hermanos hay pelirojos,
rubios y morenos claros, yo soy moreno claro, ojos cafes, la prueba de mi
ADN dice que el 80% de mis antepasados eran Sueco-Alemanes, o sea mucho
Visigodo, tambien mi ADN indica 4% Celtico(de los Celti-Iberos?). Lo de lo
Frances en Mexico si existe pero es menos que lo Sefardito o lo Africano.
El promedio de ADN Sueco-Aleman entre los Mexicanos es el 48%, lo de lo
Nativo es el 32%, quien se lo imaginaba? Yo no! Raul

2014-12-04 16:57 GMT-08:00 :

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Francisco Gutierrez de Hermosillo

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Hola Raza, I am trying to find out if Francisco Gutierrez de Hermosillo who married Maria Dolores Gomez de Mendoza on Nov.19, 1730 in Tepatitlan and Tomasa Garcia on Dec.03. 1714 in San Juan de Los lagos is the same Francisco Gutierrez de Hermosillo. I couldn't find the marriage in Tepatitlan to see if it state that Francisco was a widower of Tomasa Garcia but couldn't find it nor the record of the one in San Juan de Los lagos. Either I am blind or some body made an error.
Thank you for time and thank you Joseph.

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Miguel del Berrio Y Zaldivar Segundo Conde Hacienda San Mateo

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Found an 848 pg document of Miguel Del Berrio Y Zaldivar:

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/ImageServlet?accion=41&txt_…

Some example pages and it shows his geneology lineage:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/11skmz9.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/14mp3m.jpg

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Anyone found Maps/Planos of Valparaiso, Zacatecas or Huejuquilla?

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I am looking through PARS websites in the mapas and planos section. I have a friend who is a historian in Zacatecas and is interested in any maps or planos of Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico or the Hacienda San Mateo. If any of you out there are searching maps in the PARS or other websites, can you help? Thank you.

I found several villages of Jalisco and also found another one the plano of Bolanos, Jalisco, Mexico

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Los Altos -Mulatos ??

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Hola Linda , I understand that the Espanoles kept to themselves but by looking at the records ,there are tons of Mulatos to the point( I think) there could of been some Mulato Groups/colonies/Individuals still around, It looks like they were magicians and went poof,gone . For in example :I was told by a distant relative who lived in El Rancho del Refugio (between San Miguel el Alto, San Jose de Los Reynoso and San Julian area(Jalisco),that a Rancho named La Puerta del Sauz(de Ramirez) that there 200 Slaves housed/lived there. I believe it was probably around 1800 give or take a few years. Well I still ponder where did these guys go or what happened to them. I don' t know ,maybe they just inter married I guess.
Ronnie

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Frustration! Mulato or Español?

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Just venting.

I found another entry of the marriage of Cristobal Manuel Castañeda Cobarrubias and Nicolasa Romero Godina. This one says Castañeda was a español. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18453-8557-31?cc=1874591&wc=…

But the marriage dispensation I have says he's mulato. I downloaded a copy of the dispensation (I think their grandmothers were sisters), but I didn't copy the url! Where do I find this again?

BTW, I did come up with a bit of African DNA, so I figured his being a mulato must be true.

Thanks,
Laura

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i just found this incestuous marriage records

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18426-25517-16?cc=1874591&wc…

i thought it was illegal for someone to marry their niece.

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Map of Villa Nuestra Senora Purificacion and ranchos (Fresnillo, Zacatecas, Mexico?)

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Found this map called, Villa Nuestra Senora de Purificacion and also with surrounding ranchos. When I was looking at the names of the ranchos they look familiar. So is this Fresnillo, Zacatecas, Mexico?

http://oi59.tinypic.com/dq4xdz.jpg

I found it on pg 24 of mapas:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2qnqhb9.jpg

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/ead-display/-/ead/pl/aicode/ES-4109…

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Microfilm No. 169026 Testamentos (1659 - 1843)

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Today I justed started scrolling through the beginning of Testamentos Microfilm year 1659 - 1843. Starts out year 1675 Tecolotlan. I am impressed with how clear, neatly written the documents are. I was reading a Testament of a person name Manuela Marin Del Valle. So many differnt kinds of information such as "La Tienda" and has lists of items along with their value. Then another list called, "Cabrales" which is a long list of names of poeple and how much they owe. Then list of belongings such as tierras, ropa, etc. Then I saw something called, "Fabricas y efectos en La Estancia De San Antonio. Which San Antonio is this? Here are copies I made:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/27ypyms.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2z7q5c0.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2rf314y.jpg

I was also reading another list and what caught my atention is this line which may seem to make reference to name of a ship that sailed from Cadiz, Espana to Veracruz:

"Se han pagado el Maestre del Navio El Annoganite por la conduccion de otras caxones desde Cadiz a Veracruz."

I have only looked through the first few pages before I had to leave the LDS Center. I only had an hour. But so many different kinds of lists. I hope to find testamentos of my ancestors. Such as my ggggggg grandparents Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709?) Maria De La Candelaria Angon (1655 - 1735)

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Frigate "San Carlos" at Port San Blas, Nayarit, Mexico 1775

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Reading about the Frigate “San Carlos” that embarked in the port of San Blas, Nayarit, Mexico in 11/26/1775. Then traveled up north to San Francisco. Commanded by Juan De Ayala. I am just learning that there is a port in San Blas, Nayarit, on the Pacific side of Mexico. I looked it up and the old structures are still there.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/309hlog.jpg

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/ImageServlet?accion=41&txt_…

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Ayala
Fotos of Frigate “San Carlos”

http://oi59.tinypic.com/qz517p.jpg
http://oi59.tinypic.com/28h242v.jpg

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Calvillo, Macías, Ponce, Vásquez, Garcia

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Hello everyone,

My name is Christopher de Cuéllar and I'm very new to geneaology and very new to the group. I've only been doing geneaology for about a month. My father died when I was very young so I never really knew much about my ancestors. That's probably why I started becoming interested in geneaology. I'm currently in high school and am trying to accomplish as much research during the winter break as possible. Mainly, spending all my free time pulling records I can find on family search. Also, if there's anyone that could assist in occasionally translating records for me, I would really appreciate it. I have dyslexia which really hasn't been a problem for me lately, but for some reason the ancient cursive writing on marriage and baptism records gives me a problem.

I'm currently researching my ancestors the Calvillo, Macías and Ponce families from Aguascalientes and the Vásquez and Garcia families from Guadalajara, Jalisco. Right now, I'm mainly interested in Francisco Xavier Calvillo that married María Michaela Macías at El Sagrario, Aguascalientes on 24 May 1753 and their ancestors. Also, interested in Gregorio Ponce that married María Gertrudis Rangel on 6 Feb 1796 and their ancestors.

In Guadalajara, the only record I have for my Vásquez ancestor is Miguel Vasquez born 29 Sept 1896 in Guadalajara and baptised on 19 Oct 1896 at Iglesia Parroquial de Jesus, Guadalajara. On his baptism it lists his parents as Cecilio Vásquez and Flora Garcia and his paternal grandparents as Leonardo Vásquez and Susana Garcia. It lists his maternal grandparents as Sinforiano Garcia and Donaciana Vejar. I'm especially looking for information on them.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance."

Christopher de Cuéllar

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Los Altos-Mulatos ?

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Hola , I believe that the Mulatos were looking at a chance of freedom but maybe the owners (after/during the revolution) sent them away seeing that couldn't feed them and had no labor force . Maybe the Mulatos observing all this decided to split. But there were so many Its hard to conceive they just disappeared.
Ronnie

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FTDNA

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Has anyone had any good results from using FTDNA.com ? I just transferred my data from Ancestry.com to FTDNA and while it only took an hour for results to come in, it doesn't show a lot of information. I have not paid for the full version of the website, not sure if it is worth it.
Anyone have any experiences using this site or any other?

Kristine

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What Spanish Ports used during XVI?

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There are three ports in Spain that were there during XVI period:

Puerto San Sebastian:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/142fsp2.jpg

Puerto Santander:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2ym9bm1.jpg

Puerto Sevilla:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/s3zkte.jpg

Included are the three pictures. Most of the spanish explorers that arrived to Zacatecas were from the Basque region from "Gipuzkoa" such as Francisco Ibarra, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gipuzkoa

The ports of San Sebastian and Santander are located in the northern side of Spain near the Basque region. So I wonder if that is where they embarked rather than Sevilla which is at the very south side of Spain.

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Question regarding Sagrario de Zacatecas

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Is anyone familiar with Sagrario de Zacatecas??? What towns belonged to this parish in the early 1600-1700's. Also, why did it change names to Iglesia de Santo Domingo in the later colonial years.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15210-22038-32?cc=1804458&wc…

Is it similar to Archdiocese de Guadalajara???

I noticed their records go back to as early as 1605. In their "Baptism" records were "Marriages" mixed in.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11200-31852-57?cc=1804458&wc…

Also, under "Marriages 1712-1753" were important legal documents with seals that date back to as early as 1634. Some of these documents mention, "Capitanes" "Minas" "Duque de Alburque" These legal documents begin on image 404 and continue for about 100 pages.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15210-22038-32?cc=1804458&wc…

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15210-21982-81?cc=1804458&wc…

Does anyone know what this documents are that would require 3-4 seals???

Thanks

Ruben

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Full detailed map of Mexico 1769 by Jose Urrutia and Nicolas De La Fora

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I found a map where you can zoom in a specific area and get a close look:

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl?data=/home/www/data/gmd/gmd4/…

Source:

http://generalurrutia.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html

By Joseph De Urrutia who I posted earlier about Capitan of Navio Arrogante:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/10mlifr.jpg

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Fray Marcos De Niza en Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico (1667)?????

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I was going through baptismo records of year 1667 of pueblo Santa Catharina which is recorded in Mezquitic Catholic Church records and noticed the signatures of "Fray Marcos De Niza:

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18739-78525-87?cc=1874591&wc…

I looked him up:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_de_Niza

Is that the same Marcos De Niza? Who is supposed to have been born in 1495 and passed away in 1558.

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i've updated my indexes

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here
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21043

and here
http://guadalajaradispensas.tumblr.com/

just wanted to share that since it can make navegating these doucments more easier

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Ships "Arrogante (San Antonio De Padua)" and "San Leandro" Microfilm No. 169026 (testamentos 1659 - 1843)

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Transportation of Cargo between Cadiz and Veracruz year 1786:
Here Navios (Ships) names “Arrogante” and “San Leandro” are named:

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Other pages that follow:
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http://oi59.tinypic.com/2heitk5.jpg

Here again Navio (Ship) Arrogante mentioned:
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More following page:
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Here is what I think is a cargo list. I can’t remember if I copied them in order:
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Here Navio (Ship) Arrogante (also known as the San Antonio De Padua) is mentioned:
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I then began to look up those ships to see what they look like and found information on Navio Arrogante and San Leandro:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrogante_%281755%29
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Leandro_(1787)

What the San Leandro looked like:
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You can look up Navios in this website:
http://www.todoababor.es/listado/index.htm

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