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Happy data sharing!

Efrain
San Diego, California

Introduction: Sosa, Oregel, Gutierrez, Cabebezas from Tuxcueca and Valdivia Reyes From Villa Nueva

Hello,

I want to introduce myself. My name is Alexey Valdivia and I just joined at this forum.

I am looking for any information about these families:

+ From Tuxcueca, Jalisco:

Sosa, Oregel, Gomez Gutierrez and Cabezas (Maternal side).

In my research, I was not able to find information about my great-grandfathers:
Ramon Gomez and Tiburcia Gutierrez Cabezas.

Luis Sosa and Natividad Oregel

I am looking for also any information about my grandfathers from Villa Nueva, Zacatecas:

Brigido Valdivia Valdivia and Angela Reyes.

Thanks

Remedios

>
> Esperanza,

Your story reminded me of an almost identical experience when I was about
the same age--14. I got a bad case of the flu and couldn't even get out of
bed. After a day or two, my mother's comadre came over and rubbed an
ointment just like the one you described all over my torso and they wrapped
Saran wrap around me. I slept for about 24 hours and woke up completely
cured too! There was no chanting or praying in my case, but the grainy
greasy ointment worked.

Maria

Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:22:17 EDT
> From: Latina1955@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Defunciones translations
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I remember when I was 14 and in Mexico, I became
> frightfully ill...something
> related to my stomach, as I had constant diarrhea and lost an enormous
> amount of weight (which suited me just fine).
>
> Anyway, I was in Tepatilan, Jalisco visiting elders from my "adopted"
> family...and I came down with a crazy fever (half my body was ice cold and
> the
> other hot), and I had become somewhat delirious. The "elder women" were
> called
> in to help...and I remember that they rubbed all over my body what
> appeared
> to be lard mixed with salt (it was grainy). Then they wrapped me up in
> blankets whereupon I slept for more than 24 hours. As I was falling
> asleep, I
> heard their prayers mixed with chanting...and when I awoke...I was
> completely
> cured.
>
> Years later, as I was talking to an MD, he thought this cure
> fascinating...he said that Native Americans have been using "fat" to
> insulate the body for
> years, and that it made sense to use "fat" to try to break a fever.
> Sometimes
> old "remedios" did indeed work!
>
> Esperanza
> Chicagoland area
>
>

Defunciones - translation help needed

I have been reading a film of DEFUNCIONES (a document form I had never bothered to read before), and had questions on some of the causes of death, which were not listed in my small dictionary. Can anyone provide a description for any of the following terms?

- affecion organica del corazon
- congeston cerebral
- eclampsia or eclamsia (I think these are the same thing; this seems to occur in newborns, mostly under 6 hours after birth); I am aware of a condition in pregnant women called pre- clampsia (not sure of spelling)
- entesites
- fiebre poludica
- los ferina
- hemotisis
- lepra
- parto
- pulmonia
- pristula maligna
- piguete/piquete de alacran

These spellings are based on what I figured I was reading - not all of the handwriting was easily read.
These causes of death were on records from the year 1900.
LDS film # 1081927: Registro Civil, Valparaiso, Zacatecas, 1900-1903
FYI: I was searching for persons surnamed CASTRO and DUEÑAS

Thanks,
Natalie in VA

A new Princess for Spain

I dont know if you all got the news but On April 29, 2007 at 4:30 PM. Princess Letizia of Asturias gave birth to her second child with Prince Felipe. They named her Sofia after her grandmother Queen Sofia of Spain. She currently is my 19th cousin through the Mendozas of 1530's Mexico as far as my grandfather states since he's been doing genealogy for a longer time than myself. Is anyone else related to the Hurtado de Mendoza family? I have checked and they do descend from the Kings of Navarra.

Introduction: Rodolfo Trujillo, Dallas, TX

I would like to introduce myself to the group. My name is Rodolfo Trujillo,
however most just call me Rod. I live between Dallas and Fort
Worth in Texas. I've been working on my families ancestry since 2002 and
would say that I've been quite blessed to find even a small portion of my
families history. I get very excited every time I uncover the slightest bit
of information. For about two years, I was able to execute my search full
time. Since then, I've been doing it as time permits. I look forward to
getting to know people in this group and hopefully find a primo to two.

I have recently added my research in the GEDCOM section. 1793 People in 613
families.

Regards,

Rodolfo Trujillo

A new Princess for Spain

I dont know if you all got the news but On April 29, 2007 at 4:30 PM. Princess Letizia of Asturias gave birth to her second child with Prince Felipe. They named her Sofia after her grandmother Queen Sofia of Spain. She currently is my 19th cousin through the Mendozas of 1530's Mexico as far as my grandfather states since he's been doing genealogy for a longer time than myself. Is anyone else related to the Hurtado de Mendoza family? I have checked and they do descend from the Kings of Navarra.

A new Princess for Spain

I dont know if you all got the news but On April 29, 2007 at 4:30 PM. Princess Letizia of Asturias gave birth to her second child with Prince Felipe. They named her Sofia after her grandmother Queen Sofia of Spain. She currently is my 19th cousin through the Mendozas of 1530's Mexico as far as my grandfather states since he's been doing genealogy for a longer time than myself. Is anyone else related to the Hurtado de Mendoza family? I have checked and they do descend from the Kings of Navarra.

Archival Storage

The article below is from the latest Rootsweb Review. My new computer didn't have a floppy drive and much of my data and photos is on diskettes. I bought an external floppy drive, but haven't learned how to hook it up and transfer the info to the CDs. Now I wonder if it wouldn't do any good to transfer my info to CDs. Does anyone think memory sticks are better?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA --

More on Archival CDs
By Ron Mesnard

Last edition's suggestion on buying archival quality CDs made of 24k
gold (rather than with dyes) was both accurate and useful. Many
persons believe once their valuable data is on a CD it will be good
forever; however, it will not.

Old-style CDs that burned pits on metal foil to record the data have
the best life. I have gold foil CDs that are about ten years old that
read fine the last time I accessed one. I also have eight- to
nine-year-old new-style disks that read fine. The newer media burns
much faster and is much cheaper. If you are using non-archival-quality
CDs, remember that the dye used for normal CDs and DVDs is photo
sensitive. Any light, but especially direct sunlight, can dramatically
age the dye on a disk. Keep this in mind when you use and store your
disks. One other advantage of the foil disks is that if they get too
scratched or the plastic clouds with age making them unreadable, they
can be resurfaced. I do not think this helps a normal CD-R.

My experience with CDR-Ws suggests to me that they are a great idea
that never worked out. Use memory sticks instead. They are as reliable
as the CDR-Ws are not.

To Paula Trujillo

http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh723.sht

Paula,

I've been wondering about that haunting song you heard in the movie with William Holden. You said the movie was called "The Outlaws", but my husband says the movie was called "The Wild Bunch". Could the song you heard be "Shall We Gather At the River"? It is an old Baptist hymn from 1864. Click on link above to hear it played on the piano (has lyrics).

Emilie

Las Mananitas

Jonathan,

Thank-you, so much, for the Mother's Day song. That brought back so many
wonderful memories for me. Back in the 1970's, when I was in juniour high
(showing my age?), our church added a Spanish language mass on Saturday
evenings. That was the days of the folk mass popularity. Anyways, my
sister and her husband, myself and a few others were "the folk band" for
this particular mass every Saturday. Well, to make a long story short, one
Saturday we played and sang "Las Mananitas," as we did a procession around
the church. Those were such fun times, getting together to practice the
songs and playing them in church (it wasn't so boring to go then), and just
the good feelings that came from it. I don't remember the particular
occasion for singing that song, but I have never forgotten it, sing it still
once in a while, just to sing it. It is such a beautiful song. Thank-you,
as well, to those who shared its translation.

This has been one of the best Mother's Days I've had! I've been a mom for
28 years! I won't tell you how long my mother has been a mom. I'd really
give away how old I am!

Corrine

Book on Colonial Mexico

At a used book store, I found a great book called, "Land and Society in
Colonial Mexico," by Francois Chevalier, published by UC California Press in
Berkeley in 1970. It is about the "hacienda," its background and how it
continues to play a role in Mexico today. It goes back to the 16th and 17th
centuries in detail. It also has a great map of 16th century Mexico showing
the various communities and what type of community they were, where Spanish,
Creole, etc., points out the great estates, food production, mining, etc..
Well, it just shows a lot and I think this book will be a good sourcebook.

One of the passages in it I would like to share for now is in a chapter
called "Factors Limiting the Great Estates." It reads: "The region of Lagos
and Los Altos de Jalisco presents a peculiar problem. Its small landowners
bear today the same names as the modest stockmen of the early seventeenth
century: Macias, Anda, Padilla, Ornelas, Torres, Isaci, Aranda. Yet the big
haciendas seem to have divided the entire region among themselves. The
small, unencumbered rancho of our day is relatively recent phenomenon,
dating from the end of the eighteenth century at the earliest and usually
from the nineteenth. It is possible that the rancho represents the old
holding, or rented land, which had later split away from the big estate. If
so, the ranchero would have unintentionally avenged his Creole ancestors
who, after having been reduced to the status of sharecroppers and tenant
farmers, thus regained their independence a century or so later."

Anyways, I thought that was particularly interesting. I'm not sure I know
what he's saying exactly, but it's interesting!

Corrine Ardoin

2nd try - Las Mananitas Translation

The mañanitas (poetic translation)

These are the lovely little psalms that were sung by King David. Today we sing them to a loved one who happy will be. Wake up this early morning and the sun you will see. As the moon leaves us this morning all the birds they will sing. How beautiful is the morning that I come to share with you. We all come in celebration of this special day just for you. The day it is a dawning and the light of day has come. Awaken early this morning to see all that we have done.

The Little Mornings (Literal translation)

These are the little mornings that sang the King David, today for being day of your saint we sing them to you. Wake up my love wake up look that sunrise has come, already the litttle birds sing the moon already has set. How pretty is the morning that I come on to greet you. We come all with gladness and pleasure to congratulate you. Already comes the sunrise already the light of day has touched us. Get up of morning look that sunrise has come.

ADDITONAL VERSES

El día en que tu naciste, nacieron todas las flores y en la pila del bautismo cantaron los ruiseñores.

Quisiera ser un San Juan, quisiera ser un San Pedro, para venirte a cantar con la música del cielo.

De las estrellas del cielo quisiera bajarte dos; una para saludarte y otra para decirte adiós.

Updated Tlaltenango area files

If I did everything properly, I just uploaded information from my family
tree around the Tlaltenango area. I must preface that this information could
not have been complete had it not been for the generosity of sharing from
Helyn.. Also, since I am relatively new at this, please forgive some
inconsistencies that I discovered I did early on.

Also...for those of you who have a connection to Coahuila, I have included
my Villarreal lines from that area.

I would be very interested if someone else from this group is also
related....

Esperanza
Chicagoland area.

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Mexican-American,

Unfortunately, it appears that for most people part of the human condition is to make themselves feel better at the expense of others. It happens here, Mexico, EVERYWHERE. "Imagine all the people living life in peace".
I have taught English as a second language for 16 years and continue to do so, and I have NEVER heard anyone refer to any of my black students born in Africa, living in the US (and not a naturalized citizen) as an African-American. If they choose US citizenship, they may also choose how they want to call themselves.
My parents were born and raised in Mexico, and referred to black people as negroes. Today ALL my Mexican students refer to them as morenos or morenitos. That's what my parents called me (con carino), because they were so white, and I wasn't. But they NEVER meant that I was black. It's also interesting that you indicated that you "feel American", because none of my Mexican students ever refer to themselves as such. My mother was an educator in Mexico, and became a naturalized US citizen, but she always referred to herself as Mexicana. She became a US citizen in order to work within the system and help change things she saw as injustices. She was quite successful. My father, on the other hand was apolitical.

"Oh beautiful, for SPACIOUS skies, for amber waves of grain..." It's not an easy song to sing. Alice

--- mnavarrovillalobos@yahoo.com.mx wrote:

From: victorianonavarro
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mexican-American,
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:49:36 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Emilie, Linda, Efrain;
A few thoughts on your messages.
I'll have to say when I was living in the USA I felt l was part of the most unwelcome group in América:
For Blacks I was White; for Whites I was Latino; for Latinos I was Mexican; for Mexicans I was Chilango; and for Chilangos I was, well... another Chilango.
Part of my problem with US racial designations is why should I use the "politically correct" term "African-American" to describe black people when most of my black fiends and my roomate were not American at all. I remember I once saw somebody on a TV program (I think it was Jay Leno's wife, at Jay Leno's Tonight Show, NBC) who was talking about Human Rigths violations, and she mentioned the apartheid against "African-Americans" in South Africa, I could not believe what I was listening to! (black Africans are NOT African-American).
I do know many US citizens of Mexican descent, a big chunk of my family has lived in the US for over a century and we stay in touch and see each other whenever possible.
Náhuatl was just one of the many languages spoken in what we now call Mexico, and if it happened to be predominant it was only because it was the language of the Mexica Conquerors, later it ws replaced by the Spanish of the Spaniard Conquerors. Eventually the whole identity of the country focused in the Mexicas since the name of the country itself and our national flag have Aztec origins, but sometimes we forget the Aztecs were defeated thanks to the help of the Tlaxcaltecas and other local tribes who fought with the Spaniards against against the Aztec Conquerors.
Yes, the official name of our coutry is "Estados Unidos Mexicanos", part of the fad of naming everithing "United" just like the original US of A: United Kingdom, Unted Arab Emirates, United Nations, USSR. In many official documents it is also called República Mexicana, and strangely in international affairs the government doesn't use the official name of the country, but just México instead: in the United Nations, Olympics, Football World Cup, etc.
I like to sing in English "Oh beautiful, for precious skies, for amber waves of grain...!", but when I sing it, I sing it to my whole América, of which I am very proud. And I take offense when people form other continets speak aginst Americans, for although I know they are talking about the US for whatever reason, as a Mexican I feel American.
It seem to me our "Americanicity" has been taken hostage by the USA, and for me the term Mexican-American is not just redundant, but another way to keep it so. For we Mexicans, are Americans, and being the first one automatically means you are the second one.
I once read that the border is a culture between two cultures. I guess within a family of Mexican descent i the US some may feel like they live in this cultural border. Some closer to one side, some closer to the other, some just stuck in between. As far as I am concerned, you are always welcome in my side of the cultural border
Saludos cordiales.
VN

Feliz Dia de las Madres

I want to wish, all the Mother's in the group a "Feliz dia de las
Madres(Happy Mother's Day)". If I could I would be doing a Serinade,
for all of you. But since you can't hear me sing, in this message, go
to the following link an enjoy:
http://www.musicalspanish.com/flashdemo3.htm

Feliz Dia para las madres for all the Mother's in the group. And for
the rest us, may we also have a wonderful day, enjoying the day with
all the Mothers in our lives (Whether they be living or in our memories).

Jonathan

Also, for those who are on the East Coast, I will be in Virginia, from
Tuesday evening through Sunday morning. so if you would like to do a
get together somewhere, let me know at my private email
(jonathan@mexicanfhr.com)

Mexican-American, Chican, Native American labels

In the message below from Victoriano, he takes issue with certain labels we descendants of Mexicans here in this country use. One issue was the use of the term "Mexican-American", which he found "redundant", and he states that when he lived here he knew only people from Africa and Asia who did not use hyphens to describe their ethnicity. So, he was talking about those that had been born in foreign countries, not those who had been born here for generations, who do use Asian-American, and African-American, Native-American. The United States' statistical systems placed those labels on us, and we have to accept them in order to have some kind of identity since we are still minorities.

Amongst ourselves we are simply "Mexicans" even if we have never been to Mexico and know very little about it. Then there are the "political" labels, such as Mexicas or Aztlan or Chicano. Some of those groups claim to speak for all of us, but others of us reserve the right to speak for ourselves. We want to assimilate, but not lose our ethnic identity completely. So we compromise. I am not an Indian, not having been born in India. I am not Mexican, not having been born in Mexico. I am American, because that is what all native-born US residents call themselves, whether our ancestors came from England, Asia, Africa, etc. Only our darker colors, surnames and language identify us as not the majority American. My nephews' father was Black-American. His ancestry can be traced to the first slave ships that landed on "American" shores hundreds of years ago. They get asked all the time if they are "Hawaiian" and they answer that they are "Black". They know nothing about Afr
ica and
never will. If you happen to be white, you do not have to identify yourself as English-American, Italian American, though sometimes a Latin surname raises questions. Many Italian-Americans have changed their surnames to make them sound more "American".

Because the White Anglo Saxon Protestant culture holds sway here, those of us who do not fit the profile become hyphenated Americans. My husband is a white "Mexican" with roots in Mexico going back to the 1500s. His great-grandfather immigrated here in 1895. The WASP people that meet him for the first time decide that he cannot possibly be Mexican, he must be "Spanish", or "Castillian". "No", he says, "there is Spain and there is Mexico, and my people came from Mexico".

I am small, very dark, and have an Asian cast to my eyes. People who meet me up here in the Northwest where there are few people of Mexican descent think I am Filipino, or ask if I speak English. My husband's great-niece, whose parents and grandparents are all white (in family gatherings, I am the only raisin in the vanilla pudding), kept staring at me one day. She finally blurted out, "Aunt Emilie, what are you?" I was taken aback for a second, then I said, "Oh, you mean my ethnicity!". I told her I was "Mexican" like her great-uncle and his sister, her grandmother, but that unlike them, I had indigent blood and they had none, or it was very diluted, thus my dark skin vs. their fair skin. I told her my father had Mexican indigent blood (and I found in records also "mulatto" blood), and my mother descended from the Pueblos of New Mexico. I could take the time to explain to the great-niece why I look different than other members of her family, but when strangers ask, all
I can s
ay is "Mexican-American---I was born in Colorado, my father in Mexico....".

I think, Victoriano, you would be surprised at what we Mexican-Americans think about the labels placed on people in Mexico, and about the language they speak. The predominant language there at one time might have been Nahuatl, so why is that not the national language of Mexico? I guess because all indigent people have to assimilate and speak the language of the conqueror and adapt to his customs, same as in the US. I found the label "morena" and "guera" to identify people in Mexico very strange. We don't call people in the US "whitey" or "brownie" to their faces.

I was in a beauty shop in Mexico one day when the beautician asked me my husband's ethnicity. I told her, then she wanted to know if he was "norteno". I asked her what she meant. She said he was tall and white, like the "nortenos" in Jalisco. Now I know that he also could be referred to as Alteno, or guero. When we were in Acapulco or Puerto Vallarta one time, my husband was walking down from the swimming pool in next to nothing with his white skin red from the sun, and one maid said to the other, "Hay viene un calsonudo!" He whirled around and told her in Spanish that he, the "calsonudo", was paying her salary. I also saw a blue-eyed, very pink man at the swimming pool get very angry when a waiter walked up and asked him in English if he wanted a drink. The man said, "No soy gringo! Soy espanol!" And so it went.

I was shopping in Mexico one day, when a young boy asked me, "De donde eres?" I said, "Porque?" He said, "Porque hablas espanol, pero tienes un accento muy raro", and that was about the most polite exchange I had. I told him I was EstadoUnidense, the way my husband's aunts taught me to respond, but it was a while before I could get my tongue around that word. Due to my accent and poor Spanish, I was mostly treated in a very sarcastic manner, asked why, since it could be seen in my face that I was Mexican, why didn't I speak better Spanish. They said I should be proud of my "patria", but I wasn't born there. I just said I was not espanola, and the language of my native country is English. Labels are redundant, maybe, but when you look different or sound different from the majority, they have to suffice, you are forced to identify yourself, and so far only in the US is everyone that is born there identified as just plain American. We have a song, "God Bless America", no
t "God B
less the United States". Mexico is also the Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

Emilie

---Original Message---
victorianonavarro | 11 May, 2007 - 2:23pm

Hi Arturo,
I guess the way we divide continents has more to do with geography, history and culture than with geology. I remember learning in school that Europe and Asia formed the Eaurasian continent, and if you even add Africa it was the Eurasianafrican continent. So, I do consider the British and Irish islands as part of Europe (even Iceland), and Cuba and Caribbean islands as part of America. I even learned about a whole continent made just of islands (Oceania: Australia, New Zealand, etc.).
Even not all the citizens of the USA would de truly geographically American, mainly all Hawaiians.
As for American Football, I know it is derived from Rugby and Football Soccer; however the sport the way we know it is American, it was developed at Yale University in New England (Go Bulldogs!!!), even though some people form Harvard may not agree.
Going back to racial designations, I also have issues with the term Native American as used in the USA, since it seems to me it only refers to tribes form the USA, excluding the rest of the continent. I reckon I once described myself as part White Hispanic and part Native American (I have no problem with the tem Indian) in a USA census form, and in the section of "Tribe" I just wrote "Mexican" since I don't know from which of the many local Indian tribes I descend (chances are, from many different ones). Now thanks to DNA testing I know I'm not just part White and part American Indian, but also part Jew, part Middle Eastern-Mediterranean, and who knows what else. It is hard to describe your race when you are the product of centuries if not millennia of race mixing.
I am a citizen of Mexico, not a citizen of the USA, and I am very proud of being Mexican, and of being American, and again I think the term Mexican-American is as redundant as Kenian-Afican, Chinese-Asian or Italian-European.
I would tell all so-called Mexican-Americans, you ARE 100% AMERICAN, don't feel excluded, don't let them take away your American heritage, your ancestors have been in this American Continent for over 10 thousand years. All Mexicans are Americans, and you are TWICE American if you were born in the USA. By the way, I am thrice Mexican, since I was born in Mexico City and raised in the State of Mexico (before some governor changed our name from Mexican to Mexiquenses).
Just my two cents ;)
VN

Hola a todos

Hello. My name is Maria Huerta. I have been researching my family for a few years now of and on. My family comes from a little ranchito in the hills of Zacatecas, from Cosalima, Tabasco, Zacatecas to be exact. The names I am focusing on at the moment are Huerta, Medina (my father and mother), Avila and Muñoz (my grandmothers).
I have been able to trace the Huerta line back pretty far to around the early 1820's and thats where I hit a dead end, but 5 generations isn't bad.

I am not having the same luck with the others though. For Medina I only have 2 generations, for Avila I have 2 or 3 (I have some fact checking to do with my aunt) and for Muñoz I have 4. Luckly my great-grandmother on the Muñoz side and my great-grandmother on the Huerta side were sisters, so alot of it is replicated. And yes that means I am related to my self. (eeeww)

Hola. Me llamo Maria Huerta. He estado investigando mi familia durante unos pocos años. Mi familia viene de un ranchito pequeño en los cerros de Zacatecas; mas preciso de Cosalima, Tabasco, Zacatecas.
Los apellidos que estoy investigando son Huerta, Medina (mi padre y madre), Avila y Muñoz (mis abuelas). He podido trazar la línea de Huerta bastante, a alrededor de los años de 1820. Ayi me quede, pero 5 generaciones no son malas.

No he tenido la misma suerte con los otros. Para Medina sólo tengo 2 generaciones, para Avila tengo 2 o 3 (tengo algunos datos que verifica con mi tía) y para Muñoz tengo 4. Suerte que mi bisabuela en el lado de Muñoz y mi bisabuela en el lado de Huerta fueron hermanas, de modo que mucha información es replicada. Y sí esto significa que soy pariente de mi misma. (eeeww)

Mendozas

The current Mendozas Im searching for are

1.) Anna Sanchez de Mendoza

2.) Juan Becerra y Hurtado de Mendoza (He is the wife of #1)
(Juan is the father-in-law of Juan Lopez de Elisalde)

Race Designations

I wanted to thank everyone, Paula, Emilie, Robert, and Esperanza for the
tremendous help you have given me regarding this sensitive issue of race
classifications in Mexico and, as you pointed out, in America, as well. We
see this sadly all over the world.

People ask me if I am Hispanic and I say, I'm an American of mostly Mexican
and German ancestry. Since I have been doing genealogy, I have been
thinking, well, my Mexican ancestors were of Spanish ancestry, so maybe I
should start saying that, which gets me back to being "Hispanic." Yet,
there could be some French, some indigenous mixture there, so it just
doesn't work to get down to classifying ourselves or others anymore. I
could say I am of European ancestry, but that still excludes all
possiblities. That's what they have been finding out in the census taking,
that people are no longer simply white, black, brown, yellow, green, or
purple, but a blending of races. When it comes down to it, what is the
purpose of this kind of accounting anymore?

My mother was born in Guadalajara, spoke Spanish, and she grew up with her
family in Los Angeles. The story is told a million times over, family
members one by one immigrating to the U.S. during the Mexican Revolution and
then staying here. My mother's mother only spoke Spanish, grew up and went
to college in Guadalajara, but worked in LA in the garment industry as a
factory worker until retirement. My mother's father was born and raised in
Chihuahua and El Paso. He was a musician, like his father, worked as a film
extra in silent movies, but eventually became a clothing salesman for Victor
Clothing Company in downtown LA until his retirement. I used to see him on
their television commercials in the 1960's. He had changed his name from
Jesus to Fred. My grandmother's aunt owned a shoe store on the plaza right
by the Cathedral in Guadalajara, lived a well-to-do lifestyle and had
servants. Her store was burned down during the Revolution, so she
immigrated to the U.S. She worked all the rest of her life for the Diamond
Laundry Company in LA. Why didn't the women do as well in this country as
their own? I know that they lived in fear of getting sent back to Mexico,
they isolated themselves, they did not want to stand out or make waves, make
a fuss, and they all had a great deal of pride.

I married a man of French and English ancestry and live far away from my
family now. The Mexican influence of my upbringing has worn off quite a
bit, I have found out. At a Mexican restaurant last Mother's Day, we had
brunch with my mother and my brother and his wife, who is Mexican. He asked
me if I had tried any of this particular dessert they had there. I said I
didn't know what that was. He looked at me and asked, "You don't know?
What kind of Mexican are you?!" So, you can get it from all directions, put
down for being too dark, too light, too Mexican, not Mexican enough, for
speaking Spanish, for not knowing Spanish, etc. etc. Enough said.
Thank-you, all!

Corrine Ardoin
American Heinz 57