Just wanted to pass along the following announcement:
La Asociación de Clubes Nochistlenses los invita a celebrar el día del Nochistlense los días 28 y 29 de Abril del presente año.
I have been viewing LDS Film # 0604817 - "Registros Parroquiales - San Juan Bautisita, Sombrerete; Bautismos, 1863-1869". I am searching for children whose father is surnamed CASTRO or DUENAS (~ over N); also 'natural' children born to mothers with either surname. I do this in hopes of finding a connection to link what I know to the unknown.
Some of the records are for a church other than San Juan Bautista. The church is listed as "Iglesia de San Panteleon de la Noria" - and appears to be in the Sombrerete area.
QUESTION: Does anyone research in the Sombrerete area? Can anyone provide background information - historical/geographical for Sombrerete?
QUESTION: On some of the baptismal records the place of birth is listed as follows: "... nacio en la Noria" or "...nacio en este Mineral". Can anyone explain what these terms - en la Noria/ en este Mineral - mean?
QUESTION: On this film, in the first part, though identified as baptismal records, seem to be CIVIL birth records/ civil presentation - the wording is different, just not like the baptismal records. In these records I found a record of a child I believe is a collateral ancestor. However, when I looked for a baptismal record for the corresponding child/date - I didn't find one (I will have to check again to make sure I didn't overlook it). HAS ANYONE else run into this situation?
QUESTION: When/why are the titles of Don and Dona (~ over n) used?
Thanks for any enlightenment you can provide. I know I have asked several questions (In my mind they are related) - if you have an answer/reply to just one question, please cut-and-paste just the question for which you have a comment into the answer. (OK - just so you know - if this doesn't make sense, I apologize - this is how my mind works - logic is not my strong suite).
Natalie in VA
I am sure this list can be made longer...
REGULAR FRIENDS vs. LATINO FRIENDS!!!
REGULAR FRIENDS: Never askfor food.
LATINOFRIENDS: Are the reason you have food.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Will say"hello."
LATINOFRIENDS: Will give you a big hug and akiss.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Call yourparent's Mr. and Mrs.
LATINOFRIENDS: Call your parent's mami and papi.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Have neverseen you cry.
LATINOFRIENDS: Cry with you.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Will eat atyour dinner table and leave.
LATINOFRIENDS: Will spend hours there, talking, laughing and justbeing
together.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Borrow yourstuff for a few days then give it back.
LATINOFRIENDS: Keep your stuff so long they forget it'syours.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Know a fewthings about you.
LATINOFRIENDS: Could write a book with direct quotes fromyou.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Will leaveyou behind if that's what the crowd is doing.
LATINOFRIENDS: Will kick the whole crowds' ass that leftyou.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Would knockon your door.
LATINOFRIENDS: Walk right in and say, "I'mhome!"
REGULAR FRIENDS: Are forawhile.
LATINOFRIENDS: Are for life.
REGULAR FRIENDS: Will ignorethis.
LATINOFRIENDS: Will forward this.
John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA
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Hola:
Entre mis ancestros tengo a Mariana Ruiz de Anda casada el 2 de julio de 1656 en Santa María de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno con Nicolás de Pedroza. Para ninguno he dado con los padres aunque estoy tratando de ver si hay alguna conección con un matrimonio entre Juan de Anda Altamirano y Juana Ruiz de Nava, en el que tienen una hija circa 1629 y se llama Mariana de Anda Altamirano.
Mi conección con el matrimonio de Mariana Ruiz de Anda y Nicolás de Pedroza es como sigue.
*Nicolás de Pedroza y Mariana Ruiz de Anda
**Michaela de Pedroza de Anda y Joseph Hurtado de Mendoza (padres desconocidos)
***Bernardo Hurtado de Mendoza y María de los Dolores González de Láris (padre: Isidro González de Laris; madre: Marta Gil de Alcalá Mendoza; abuelos paternos: Fulgencio González de Ruvalcaba y María de Laris; abuelos maternos: Manuel Alcalá y Mendoza y Elvira Gil de Lara)
****Juana Antonia Hurtado González y Joseph Antonió Gómez de Portugal (padres desconocidos)
*****José Matías Ygnacio Gómez de Portugal Hurtado de Mendoza y María Luisa Ygnacia de Hermosillo Alvarez (padre: Juan Joseph de Hermosillo; madre: Juana Manuela Albares Tostado Ramírez; abuelos paternos: Joseph Dionisio Muñoz de Hermosillo y Catharina de Padilla Dávila; abuelos maternos: Lorenzo Alvarez Tostado (no tengo a los padres de este Lorenzo) y Gertrudis Efigenia Ramírez de Hermosillo)
******José María Gómez de Portugal Hermosillo y María Ana González Moreno (padre: Francisco Antonio González (no tengo a los abuelos paternos); madre: María Isidora Moreno (no tengo a los abuelos maternos)
*******María Higinia Gómez de Portugal y González y Juan de Dios Moreno y Maldonado (padre: José Antonio Melquiades Moreno y Moreno; madre: María Manuela Maldonado y Moreno; abuelos paternos: Marcos Moreno de Ortega Hurtado (no tengo a los padres) y María de la Ascención Moreno Perez (hija de Miguel Moreno de Ortega y María Francisca Velásquez, nieta por el padre de: Joseph Moreno de Ortega y Petronila Ramírez, nieta por la madre de: Carlos de Mena y Michaela Velasques); abuelos maternos de Juan de Dios Moreno y Maldonado: Juan Maldonado y Moreno y María de San José Moreno y Velásques. No tengo a los padres de Juan Maldonado y Moreno y los padres de María de San José Moreno y Velásques son: Miguel Moreno de Ortega y María Francisca Velásquez ya antes mencionados.
********Zenaida Moreno Gómez y José Ignacio Orozco González (padre: José Ramón Tello de Orozco y González Rubio; madre: María Josefa González del Castillo y Ortíz de Parada; abuelos paternos: José Ignacio Tello de Orozco y Gutiérrez de Mendoza y Rita González Rubio y Márquez; abuelos maternos: Fermín González del Castillo y González de Rubalcava y Francisca Ortíz de Parada y González de Rubalcava; los bisabuelos son como sigue:
padres del abuelos paterno: José Luis Tello de Orozco y Jiménez de Castro (hijo de Juan Antonio Roque Tello de Orozco y González y de María Teresa Jiménez de Castro Ramírez),
María Rosa Gutierrez de Mendoza y Gutiérrez (hija de Salvador Gutiérrez de Mendoza y Ana María Gutiérrez)
padres de la abuela paterna: Juan de Dios González Rubio y Mariana Márquez (no tengo a los padres de estos)
padres del abuelo materno: Juan José González Díaz del Castillo y María Gertrudis González Villalobos(no tengo a los padres de estos)
padres de la abuela materna: Bernabé Manuel Ortíz de Parada y García (no tengo a los padres) y María Trinidad González de Rubalcava y Guerra (hija de: Eugenio Cayetano González de Rubalcava y Gallegos y Joaquina Guerra y de San Román)
La mayoría de mis ancestros hasta aqui son de los Altos de Jalisco.
*********Zenaida Orozco Moreno y Maurilio Suárez Zavala hijo de Esteban Suárez Acevez y María Trinidad Zavala Zavala
**********José Suárez Orozco y Olga María Rotter Culebro (son mis abuelos paternos, todavía viven)
***********José Suárez Rotter y Sylvia Guillermina Villarreal de la Fuente
************José Humberto Suárez Villarreal
Saludos a todos.
José Humberto Suárez.
Hello:
I have among my ancestors a person named Mariana Ruiz de Anda married on July 2nd, 1656 in Santa María de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno to Nicolás de Pedroza. I haven´t been able to find the parents of this couple although I´m trying to find out if there´s a conection with the marriage formed by Juan de Anda Altamirano and Juana Ruiz de Nava, in which I have found a daughter born circa 1629 named Mariana de Anda Altamirano.
My conection with Mariana Ruiz de Anda and Nicolás de Pedroza´s marriage is the following:
*Nicolás de Pedroza and Mariana Ruiz de Anda
**Michaela de Pedroza de Anda and Joseph Hurtado de Mendoza (unknown parents)
***Bernardo Hurtado de Mendoza y María de los Dolores González de Láris (father: Isidro González de Laris; mother: Marta Gil de Alcalá Mendoza; paternal grand-parents: Fulgencio González de Ruvalcaba and María de Laris; maternal grand-parents: Manuel Alcalá y Mendoza y Elvira Gil de Lara)
****Juana Antonia Hurtado González and Joseph Antonió Gómez de Portugal (unknown parents)
*****José Matías Ygnacio Gómez de Portugal Hurtado de Mendoza and María Luisa Ygnacia de Hermosillo Alvarez (father: Juan Joseph de Hermosillo; mother: Juana Manuela Albares Tostado Ramírez; paternal grand-parents: Joseph Dionisio Muñoz de Hermosillo and Catharina de Padilla Dávila; maternal grand-parents: Lorenzo Alvarez Tostado (I haven´t found the parents of this Lorenzo) and Gertrudis Efigenia Ramírez de Hermosillo)
******José María Gómez de Portugal Hermosillo and María Ana González Moreno (father: Francisco Antonio González (I haven´t found the parents of Francisco); madre: María Isidora Moreno (I haven´t found the parents of María Isidora)
*******María Higinia Gómez de Portugal y González and Juan de Dios Moreno y Maldonado (father: José Antonio Melquiades Moreno y Moreno; mother: María Manuela Maldonado y Moreno; paternal grand-parents: Marcos Moreno de Ortega Hurtado (Haven´t found the parents of Marcos) and María de la Ascención Moreno Perez (daughter of Miguel Moreno de Ortega and María Francisca Velásquez, grand-daughter by the father of: Joseph Moreno de Ortega and Petronila Ramírez, grand-daughter by the mother of: Carlos de Mena and Michaela Velasques). The maternal grand-parents of Juan de Dios Moreno y Maldonado are: Juan Maldonado y Moreno and María de San José Moreno y Velásques. I haven´t found the parents of Juan Maldonado y Moreno but I have those for María de San José Moreno y Velásques which are: Miguel Moreno de Ortega and María Francisca Velásquez already mentioned.
********Zenaida Moreno Gómez and José Ignacio Orozco González (father: José Ramón Tello de Orozco y González Rubio; mother: María Josefa González del Castillo y Ortíz de Parada; paternal grand-parents: José Ignacio Tello de Orozco y Gutiérrez de Mendoza and Rita González Rubio y Márquez; maternal grand-parents: Fermín González del Castillo y González de Rubalcava and Francisca Ortíz de Parada y González de Rubalcava; the great grand-parents are the following:
parents of the paternal grand-father: José Luis Tello de Orozco y Jiménez de Castro (son of Juan Antonio Roque Tello de Orozco y González and of María Teresa Jiménez de Castro Ramírez),
María Rosa Gutierrez de Mendoza y Gutiérrez (daughter of Salvador Gutiérrez de Mendoza and Ana María Gutiérrez)
parents of the paternal grand-mother: Juan de Dios González Rubio and Mariana Márquez (Haven´t been able to locate the parents of this couple)
parents of the maternal grand-father: Juan José González Díaz del Castillo and María Gertrudis González Villalobos(Haven´t been able to locate the parents of this couple)
parents of the maternal grand-mother: Bernabé Manuel Ortíz de Parada y García (I don´t have the parents of this Bernabé Manuel) and María Trinidad González de Rubalcava y Guerra (daughter of: Eugenio Cayetano González de Rubalcava y Gallegos and Joaquina Guerra y de San Román)
Most of all my ancestors who are mentioned here are from the Los Altos de Jalisco region.
*********Zenaida Orozco Moreno and Maurilio Suárez Zavala son of Esteban Suárez Acevez and María Trinidad Zavala Zavala
**********José Suárez Orozco and Olga María Rotter Culebro (they are my paternal grand-parents still alive)
***********José Suárez Rotter and Sylvia Guillermina Villarreal de la Fuente
************José Humberto Suárez Villarreal
Best Regards
José Humberto Suárez
My great-grandfather is from Arandas, Jalisco.
His maternal grandmother Ana Maria Zabala Alfaro, born ~1780. Her siblings were all born in Arandas or Ayo el Chico. Her parents were Jose Rafael Zabala Rivas and Maria Victoria Francisca Alfaro Sanchez, married in 1770 in Ayo el Chico. Rafael's parents were Martin Zabala and Maria Gertrudis Rivas. His siblings also appear to have been born in Ayo el Chico.
Please contact me if you have any information on these surnames.
Thanks,
Elise
1. Editor's Desk: News and Notes
1a. Myra Gormley on Family Roots Radio
In case you missed the announcement in the RootsWeb Newsroom this week
on Myra Gormley's appearance on Family Roots Radio, I am posting it
here:
"Our very own Myra Gormley of "RootsWeb Review" fame was the featured
guest on the 3/15 episode of Family Roots Radio. Myra talked about
RootsWeb and her own journey as a genealogist and then the host, Kory
Meyerink, did a brief audio tour of RootsWeb. He highlighted various
features of our site and did a nice overview of the vast amounts of
information available here on RootsWeb.
"You can read more about the episode at
http://www.familyrootsradio.com/labels/RootsWeb.html
and you can download an MP3 of the episode at
http://www.familyrootsradio.com/2007/03/sixth-episode-podcast-available….
"P.S. Myra mentioned that her new book, "The Official Guide to
RootsWeb," will be available for purchase very soon. We're still
waiting for details on how to purchase and download the electronic
version of her book, and we'll pass that information on to you just as
soon as we have it."
I've found a new (for me) job or job discription which my translator does not give an explanation for. The word is "ganan" and it is the occupation of many from Jerez during 1886, I have not seen this word in earlier job discriptions. Is anyone familiar with this word or it's translation from Spanish to English?
thanks, Linda in Everett
Are you going to add these films to our films list so other members
of our group can access them? It is a simple procedure and very much
appreciated by those of us who don't have a Family History Center
within 50 miles.
Linda Romero
On Mar 21, 2007, at 4:40 AM, general-
request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:
> BTW, these are the films I am currently reviewing and from which I
> am extracting information regarding the following family surnames.
> SURNAMES: CASTRO, DUENAS, GARCIA (Direct Line; trying to stay
> focused on these for the time being).
> FILMS: # 1164727 - Valparaiso: Reg. Parroquiales - Bautismos,
> 1868-1870
> # 1164741 - Valparaiso: Reg. Parroquiales - Inform. Matrimonial,
> 1878-1892
> # 0604817 - Sombrerete: Reg. Parroquiales - Bautismos, 1863-1869
> # 0654983 - Sombrerete: Reg. Parroquiales - Matrimonios, 1793 1854
NOTE: I know the word Research is in the subject, but this not so much a research comment as a comment on genealogy in general.
I have had the time and opportunity to view/review some films at the local FHC the past few weeks, and as I extracted information and tried to analyze it, realizing that a lot of it may or may not be for my family members, I also realized that I needed to look at old pieces of information from years ago.
So I was looking (again) at information extracted from the 1920 US Census, the first census on which any of my family (the ones from Zacatecas) would have appeared. I am having 2nd thoughts about family groups that I thought were related, as my recollections of family members is mostly confined to my nuclear family - I knew and recalled very few of my father's 1st cousins (primos-hermanos), and therefore can't trace those families forward in order to find someone to ask family questions. Add to that the fact that so many people have the same name - trying to sort them out is a nightmare. Alas, my father (the family elder) died the year before the 1920 census was released, and though he imparted a great deal of information in the form of names, I am frequently unsure if I have the right individual/family.
Well - enough of my pity party - I hope your research is going more smoothly.
BTW, these are the films I am currently reviewing and from which I am extracting information regarding the following family surnames.
SURNAMES: CASTRO, DUENAS, GARCIA (Direct Line; trying to stay focused on these for the time being).
FILMS: # 1164727 - Valparaiso: Reg. Parroquiales - Bautismos, 1868-1870
# 1164741 - Valparaiso: Reg. Parroquiales - Inform. Matrimonial, 1878-1892
# 0604817 - Sombrerete: Reg. Parroquiales - Bautismos, 1863-1869
# 0654983 - Sombrerete: Reg. Parroquiales - Matrimonios, 1793 1854
Have a great weekend - don't forget to change those clocks!!
Natalie in VA
Thanks Juanita and Felix for the information on Chavez and Arechiga. I live
in So. Ca. You came here for eye surgery. Is it lasix and are you going to
get it with Dr. Maloney? Good luck with your eye surgery Juanita.
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29 ancient tombs found in Mexico
Mexican archaeologists found more than 100 bodies in 29 different
pre-Hispanic tombs dating back about 2,000 years in Nayarit. Raúl
Barrera, who leads the archaeological project for the National
Institute of Anthropology and History, or INAH, said most of the
remains belonged to women between the ages of 35 and 40.
Archaeologists have not yet been able to determine which civilization
the remains are from, although they know the find dates back to the
period 200 BCE to 600 CE.
The tombs - located in vertical chambers - were in a type of
burial ground found in Nayarit, Colima, Michoacán, Zacatecas and
parts of Jalisco, but they have not been found in Mesoamerica. The
tombs have, however, been found in Colombia, Ecuador and Venezuela,
Barrera said, noting that there may have been cultural and trade
links between the regions. Artifacts from these countries have been
discovered on the coast of Nayarit, he said. This type of tomb may
have signified some type of a "return to the womb of Mother Earth,"
the archaeologist said.
The content of the tombs varied depending on the social status
of the individual, since "they held the belief that in making the
crossing to the next life the dead person needed certain items for
the journey," Barrera said. Archaeologists found figurines of
warriors, ball players, pregnant women and animals in the tombs, as
well as vessels and various types of jewelry. Barrera said the sites
contained only burial grounds and no dwellings, which may have been
located on mountains or other locations at higher altitudes. Of the
29 tombs, 28 were found at the La Playa site and the other was at Las
Lagunillas. Only 12 were still intact, the others having been looted
at some point. The actual digging and recovery work lasted four years.
I am looking for the ancestors of:
Jose Marcelino Antonio Quintero Jimenes, born 16.6.1793
in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco
and
Juana Maria Bartola Garcia Bonal or Bonales,
married 29.9.1815 in Corazon de Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco
Jose Marcelino also had a brother,
Juan Jose Nepomuceno Quintero Jimenes, born 20.5.1791
in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco
Parents:
Jose Marcelino Luciano Quintero
and Maria Tomasa Dolores Jimenez
Thanks,
Elise
Arturo,
I have one.
get in touch with me through this email address:
CampeZina at juno.com
Use the symbol for an email address. I just get 100s of junk mail and
would like to prevent getting more.
Elvira
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:11:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: arturoramos
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Looking for a Book
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Does anybody have a copy of this book or know where I can obtain one?
Jos? Le?n Robles de la Torre
Filigranas, Fundaciones y Genealogias, Tepetongo, Zacatecas
(Torre?n, Coahuila: Editorial del Norte Mexicano, 1999).
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Juanita, yes I would definitely would gladly accept any information you have
on Chavez and Arechiga. I know I am distantly related to el general Jesus
Arechiga who was president of Jalpa and governor of the state of Zacatecas. I
believe he was my greatgreat grandfather's cousin.
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Arturo,
I found this online. It is confusing to me. They say that information is available under the Freedom of Information Act, but information is not given regarding individuals. Does that mean that if I asked them for information regarding my father's employment there, that they couldn't give it to me? My father did not get the RR retirement since he only worked there a short time. He worked for Westinghouse in California under regular Social Security before he passed away. I see that Ancestry.com has some RRB records, but I haven't checked them out yet. I guess only those that got RR retirement would be listed there.
Thanks,
Emilie
Hey all you Sacramento Bees:
I'm wondering who knows Arnoldo Garcia from Sacramento? He recently
applied for membership with this email address: garciaa@scc.losrios.edu
It seems to be bouncing. If you know him can you contact him and tell
him to reapply with another email address.
He lists these locations:
Villa Guerrero, Jalisco
Totatiche, Jalisco
Colotlan, Jalisco
Tlatenango, Zacatecas
And these surnames:
Caballero Ramos
Garcia Valdez
Carreon Miramontes
Casas Castro
thanks,
joseph
===================
Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
Does anyone have any of his genealogy of his ancestors? I just know his dad was also Lope. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
Per Joseph's Request.... This is the Agenda for tomorrow's N. Calif. Meeting:
March 2007 Genealogy Meeting
Date: March 17 , 2007
10:30 AM - 1:30 PM
Raley's Event Center in Elk Grove
4900 Elk Grove Blvd.
Meeting called by: Maria E. Cortez
Type of meeting: Genealogical information sharing
Facilitator: Maria E. Cortez
Note taker: Alicia Carrillo
Timekeeper: Maria E. Cortez
Attendees: Kitty Cortez, Rich Cortez, Maria Cortez, Jaime Cader, Ray Gonzalez, Alicia Carrillo, Irma Gomez-Lucero, Lorenzo Cuesta, Anna Smith, Ed Davila, Francisco Martinez, Helyn Castañeda,
Map:
Topics
10:30 - 10:45 Introductions All
10:45 - 10:55 Book: The Weekend Genealogist Kitty Cortez
11:50 - 12:05 Mexico trip Anna Smith
12:05 - 12:15 Pomar family Jaime
12:15 - 12:45 Break / Grab lunch All
12:45 - 1:00 Informacion & Dispensa Matrimonial, and Limpieza de Sangre documents Kitty, Maria and Jaime
1:00 - 1:15 Freedom of Information Act Jaime & Ray
1:15 - 1:30 Open forum All
(Espanol sigue abajo)
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Thank you so much for taking the time to give me your valuable suggestions.
I felt that I was in a dead end trying to locate my mother's family since
the information that I have is very limited. I am using rootsmagic
software, do you still recommend me to use the PAF software. I foud how to
search for films, but I have not found the IGI or VRI buttons. Thank you
very much for your help, Rosa
>From: arturoramos
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Welcome Rosa
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:56:15 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Rosa:
>
>Welcome to the group. As a new genealogist, I would suggest you begin by
>getting some software. PAF is put out by LDS for free and is very good
>software. It is imperative to keep very good records, including sources,
>from the onset.
>
>Next, I would suggest going to the "Films" section and finding the relevant
>municipalities to see if they are indexed in the LDS databases. If they
>are you will see "IGI" or "VRI" buttons next to the film number and
>description. Clicking on the button will give you the full contents of the
>film which you can then delimit by surname, first name, etc. Arandas, for
>example, is fully indexed so if you have the names of your
>great-grandparents you should be able to find their marriage and/or baptism
>certificates.
>
>Next, you should find your nearest family history center and order the
>relevant films where you know or suspect your ancestors information is
>listed. Indices are often wrong so it is worth verifying and even when
>they are correct, the actual record has much more information than what is
>extracted for the index.
>
>You should also browse or search through the user profiles and see if
>others are researching your towns or surnames. Many of us have found
>relatives through this group.
>
>It is also useful to download the Nuestros Ranchos user guide which you
>will find in the "Files" "Reference Materials" section of the site.
>
>Good luck.
My name is Irma Romo Mitchell. My husband and I have just recently become Nuestros Members. My husband is the geneology guru. I just happen to be his Hispanic / Mexican American wife - maiden named Romo from the Romo De Vivar from Spain then Mexico.
Dave is "Un Gotita" Spanish form around the year 700, however his love for the culture, food, tequilas, and beer amazes me. Just kidding - his love for family history is genuine and we Thank you for welcoming us into your email family. See you on March 17, 2007.
Signed,
Mrs "Un Gotita"
Unfortunately for Mercedes and for anyone else doing research in Jalpa, Jalpa's records are very skimpy, probably lost during wars, fires and civil unrest but some of the other municipalities that are nearby (might) have some records for Jalpa. In my research primarily for Nochistlan but also in Jalpa I have found some of Jalpa's records in with Nochistlan, not many......................and Arturo is correct, the best place to do your research is through the family history centers, going to the town you might get some oral history but you won't get much in terms of birth, baptism or marriage records unless you have exact names with the exact birth, baptism or marriage dates.
Good luck Mercedes
----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:35:19 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Before Flying to Zacatecas
Mercedes:
I am sure that a trip to Jalpa would be a great learning experience but as many members will tell you, going to the locality is not necessarily the best way to do genealogical research.
For one, the best genealogical records in Mexico are church records and many priests are very reticent about letting people look at them especially for broad research. Many civil records have been lost or are very disorganized in the towns as well and often the state capitals are the only places where you can find records.
That being said, the Family History Library has films for Jalpa that should probably be where you should begin your search. Just go to http://www.familysearch.org and look up the nearest family history center to you where you can go and order and view the films.
Jalpa, Zacatecas:
Información matrimonial 1864-1875 FHL INTL Film 1511832 Items 3-4
Información matrimonial 1874-1897 VAULT INTL Film 1511824
Información matrimonial 1898-1904 VAULT INTL Film 1511825
Nacimientos 1884-1890 FHL INTL Film 773875
Nacimientos 1891-1895 VAULT INTL Film 773876
Nacimientos 1896-1898 VAULT INTL Film 773877
I just wanted to share an interesting website I have found on Spanish names:
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/
http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/1554.txt
Dear Group Members:
I am new to this listserv and new to the genealogical investigation.
Consequently, I know that I will need your guidance. I have been very
impressed with the discussions. I am interested in the following areas: Los
Altos, Jalisco (De Leon, Trujillo), Arandas and Guadalajara, Jalisco
(Garcia), La Yesca, Tepic, Nayarit and Guadalajara (Macias, Perez). Thank
you very much for your help, Rosa E.
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Is there anyone in the group, who is researching, in Villa Hidalgo (Pasos de Soto0, Jalisco.
Thanks,
Jonathan