I apologize if this question has appeared before. Recently, while reading
christening records, I have come across the word "tresalvo" right after the
name of the child being baptised. Can someone define it for me? Thanks
~Deena Ortiz~
I have the history of the Carlos de Godoy from the 1800 that moved to
Jalisco, have several loose files of the Carlos de Godoy in their original
location Jerez, will like to contact with the person that did the research
of the Carlos de Godoy.
Thank you
Sylvia H Corona
Charles,
Was this a recent acquisition at the Bancroft? and you are correct in questioning whether something bad could have happened. So many horrible things happened as a result of the inquisition, not only in Mexico but throughout the world.
If you by chance live in Northern California you might want to consider joining the Northern California Ranchos Genealogy group. We meet quarterly somewhere in Northern California but mostly in the Sacramento area as the group coordinator and many of it's members live in that area. A few of us commute to those very lively meetings that are growing in numbers. In January we met at the Bancroft Library in Berkely and were given a warm welcome and presentation by the Latin American Curator and some of the staff. It was more of a how to do research at the Bancroft and what types of collections are available for Latin America and how to access the catalog information.
I have since returned to work full time and therefore will not have the time to do research at the Bancroft in the near future.
You may contact me off line if you are interested in joining this group. Our next meeting is on June 24th which I will not be attending because it's my husband's birthday. It will be held at the Raley's event center in Granite Bay. My email is alliecar@pacbell.net if you're interested, I will forward your request to Maria Cortez, the group coordinator. This invitation applies to anyone else from Nuestros Ranchos who lives in the Northern California area or who plans to be in the Northern California area on this date.
Today I will review my notes from the last meeting and try and have them ready to submit to Maria this week.
Good luck in your research Charles and don't hesitate to post any questions to the group? They are always ready and willing to provide assistance to anyone who asks for it.
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From: "User176613@aol.com"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hello to all
Thank you, Alicia. I am sort of new to genealogy. I have done a lot of
snooping around on the internet with google searches and such. I plan on taking
a trip to UCBerkeley in three weeks. They purchased Mexico's documents from
the Mexican Inquisition. There are over sixty different docs. There is one
on the Flores de la Torre family's genealogy from the the town of Juchipila.
It was requested by two Flores de la Torre family members. I wonder if
there was something bad that came of it Because I have discovered the Flores
family descended from conversos from Sevilla ( sometime around siglo XIV or
siglo XV).
It was considered an incredible acquisition for the Bancroft Library. I
cant wait to learn more.
thanks again,
Charles Flores
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http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/4658/…
This is a link to a story about the acquisition by the Bancroft Library in 1996. The collection includes 61 VOLUMES of original documents that were found at a book fair in Los Angeles. Apparently they had been in the possession of a Mexican family who took them from Mexico in the 1800s. They date from the 1500s to the 1800s and describe yes, terrible things, such as a brother turning in his two sisters and his mother after being tortured. They were imprisoned like dogs with collars around their necks, etc. He was later burned at the stake. There also is documentation of priests being punished by the Mexican Inquisition for sexual abuse of parishoners.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --
Joseph,
Why doesn't this link work when we send it to "reply"? Is it up in the Ranchos website files?
Emilie
Paula,
That first link I sent obviously doesn't work. Try this one.
http://www.colotlan2.com/Feria2007/StiloFeria.html
Emilie
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Subject: Desfile Inaugural Feria Nacional del Piteado (Una probadita)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:54:18 -0500
From: Municipio de Colotlan
To: josecolotlan@gmail.com
Contingentes, música y alegría en el desfile inaugural de la feria
Mantener vivas las tradiciones colotlenses es un reto de cada
administración, una oportunidad para fortalecer los lazos de unidad y poder
convivir de manera armónica.
En este caso, la feria nacional del piteado inicia con la fiesta
característica de la música, los globos y las tiras de colores vistos en el
desfile inaugural.
Con la participación de 15 contingentes se realizó este desfile de feria por
las principales calles de la ciudad.
Se dieron cita equipos de charrería, bandas de música y carros alegóricos
partiendo de la esquina de las calles Hidalgo e Independencia para seguir
por Hidalgo, girar por la calle Ramón Corona y tomar la calle Centenario
para luego dar vuelta por Morelos y terminar nuevamente en Hidalgo.
Esto abre la fiesta y prepara el marco para la coronación de la reina para
luego mostrarnos más música y diversión hasta el próximo 6 de mayo.
http://www.colotlan2.com/Feria2007/StiloFeria.html
comunicacionsocial@colotlan.gob.mx
Calle Hidalgo No. 33, Colonia Centro, Colotlán, Jalisco. C.P. 46200
Tel. (499) 992 0209 / 992 0356 Fax (499) 992 0041
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I hadn't checked the Roots Television site in a while, so I'm not sure how long this has been on. In this program, host Sharon DeBartolo Carmack interviews George R. Ryskamp, author of "Finding Your Hispanic Roots" (4-part interview; interview preceded by a commercial). Check the interview here:
http://www.rootstelevision.com/players/player_rootsbooks.php?bctid=2818…
I have only had a chance to listen/watch part 1, so I am not in a position to give an overall review. However, Dr. Ryskamp is one of the best in the field of Hispanic Genelaogy.
If you have a chance, share your personal review of this program.
I hope all is going well with your research - mine is going slowly ... my eyes get very heavy when reading some of those Mexican records for extended periods (anyone else suffer from this malady??).
Have a good weekend.
Natalie in VA : )
Yes, I spoke to Clara and she did a search.... they were not in that church, so they are doing a search in all the other churches in that area. I offered to pay them extra if they would do this for me, since I cannot go there and do the search myself. I will call them (Carla and her sister Viola) Monday and see what they cam up with.
Mary
-----Original Message-----
>From: arturoramos
>Sent: Apr 27, 2007 4:52 AM
>To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] peralvillo
>
>
>mary did you ever get any information on your ancestors in peralvillo?
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I just got off the phone with Carla that will do the search for me, and it will be just $7.00 per baptizim. This is the closest that I have ever gotten to the search of my mothers brothers and sisters. I sure hope they find them. I won't know until Friday when I call her.
Thanks again
Mary
-----Original Message-----
>From: arturoramos
>Sent: Apr 16, 2007 8:10 AM
>To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Peralvillo II
>
>
>Looking at the Mexico City archdiocese website, I found the following two churches in Peralvillo:
>
>http://directorio.arquidiocesismexico.org.mx/Modulo_Parroquias/Busqueda…
>
>Parroquia San Martín de Porres Ex-Hipódromo de Peralvillo IV 3
>Parroquia Santísima Trinidad y Nuestra Señora del Refugio Peralvillo IV 3
>
>Parroquia Santísima Trinidad y Nuestra Señora del Refugio
>Felipe Villanueva Esq. Tamagno Número: 154
>Colonia Peralvillo CP: 06220
>Delegación Cuauhtémoc
>México, D.F.
>Teléfono: 5517-4580
>
>
>
>
Does anyone know where I can find a website or book about the current living descendants of Moctezuma? Thanks. I love this group so much, we all have helped each other. Any Info. is appreciated. -Daniel Mendez Camino
Need someone in the group to hunt this person down and invite them to
join the group:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/delatorre/messages/1.html
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
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Here's an interesting website that has an article on Eva Longoria and her roots: http://www.genealogymagazine.com/evalongoria.html Enjoy! Marge:)
Can anyone help me, with el Archivo General de la nacion, How to use it, i find it very confusing. Thanks.
This is an answer to an old question I had about the origin of Catarina Jauregui, a search tip and some thank yous. I think I have found the answer to Ojo de Agua on the Marriage of Catarina Jauregui and Julian Alviso. Ojo de Agua was a rancho in the jurisdiction of Tepatitlan.
Please see link for this document
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15925
To Tomas Alejandro Villegras: Teodoro Gutierres and Petra Jauregui were the padrinos on this document.
For those researching Jauregui: Some additional name spellings I have found:
Jaure
deJaure
DeJauregui
Catarina's last name was Jaure in the index, yet the actual document had Jauregui. Some of her siblings in the LDS search have only Jaure as the last name.
I would also like to thank everyone for their help. Tomas and I believe it was Emilie let me know to check out the Jalostotitlan records. Tomas indicated that Petra, Catarina's sister was married in Jalos. and correct me if I am wrong but I believe it was Emilie that told me if I cannot find records in San Miguel, always try Jalostotitlan.
Another thank you to Rick Rodriguez who lead me to another brother of Catarina and Petra Jauregui in the Tepatitlan records, so now I think I can find Catarina's baptism also!
I love this group
Maureen Bejar
Is anyone on the list researching the La Croix area which is close to
Cd. Guzman and Tonaya? If so and and if you are interested I've got a
person doing Chavez research that is not a member of the group.
joseph
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There is new content on the http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com site:
1) In the Archaeology section hear a very high caliber presentation by
Dr. George Stuart titled, "Discovering the Maya":
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/archeology.html#dm
2) In the American Revolution hear a background message titled "10
Presidents" by Jack Cowan. Mr. Cowan is the founder of the Texas
Connection to the American Revolution Association and will be shortly
following this message up with a message appropriately enough titled,
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If you know of conferences, lectures, presentations, discussions, or
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The Archivo General de la Nacion in Mexico City has put its revised and more complete catalogue online. One is now able to search through content in a much simpler manner than in the previous ARGENA III database. There is a left hand frame with all of the search results organized by collection and descriptions of the documents appear on the right hand frame when a document is clicked.
in the application for membership there is one area needing
clarification because so so so so many new applicants are not putting in
the correct information: "Surnames Researching:**"
Can you all think of a very short phrase that would convey the message
that in this area the new applicant needs to insert the surnames they
are researching?
thanks for your help with this.
joseph
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Hello All,
Several weeks ago, I posted a announcement about a weekly Hispanic/Mexican Research class, that I would be teaching. Several of you stated an interest in taking the class.
I just wanted to let you know, that the classes have started. They are being taught Sunday evenings at 7:15pm to 7:45pm (MST). Then from 8:00pm to 11:00 pm (MST) I am answering questions.
I also can teach a class, during the week if the need arises.
To register for the classes and to download the viewer software, goto the site: www.familyhistoryliveonline.com
If you have any problems, feel free to contact me at: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
thanks,
Jonathan
Perdonen la pregunta,
¿pero por qué dicen con tanta confianza que un apellido es "originario de" alguna ciudad o rancho? Los antepasados de cualquier persona probablemente tenían el mismo apellido y probablemente vinieron de otro lugar o hasta de España (por decir algún país Europeo).
Digo esto solamente por la dificultad que he tenido en sequir mi apellido, "Cuesta".
"Cuesta" pudo haber tenido origen en
algo que costaba o se luchaba para lograr;
algo que estaba a costa (a un lado) de algo;
algo cerca de una cuesta (e.g., Cuesta de Maulique);
algo cerca de una costa;
o otro origen que en este siglo no tiene sentido.
O peor, pudo haber originado varias veces, por distintas familias indigenas o extranjeras, en partes de México muy retiradas. O sea que aunque varias familias en San Luis Potosí o Nuevo León lleven el nombre "Cuesta", puede ser que no hay ninguna relación genealógica. No creo que se puede asegurar que TODOS los apellidos sean una línea genealógica sin interrupciones por muchos siglos.
¿Soy el único con este problema por tener un apellido que también es una palabra común?
Lorenzo Cuesta Saldaña
Sacramento, CA
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Joseph:
I don't know what types of weather records might be available for Mexico, especially for the year you specified - 1793. However, it seems to me that military reports for that time period would include weather reports. I don't know where such military reports would be archived, but my guess would be that they are in the national archive of Mexico in DF or in Spain.
I googled < weather records mexico > and one of the sites I came across was for the "Instituto de Geografia, UNAM". Try these sites - they don't have what you asked about, but there is some other cool information:
http://indy2.igeograf.unam.mx/instituto/index.html
http://indy2.igeograf.unam.mx/instituto/publicaciones/atlas_nacional.htm
http://indy2.igeograf.unam.mx/instituto/publicaciones/atlas_con.html#Hi…
(I didn't check the Links section of Nuestros Ranchos to see if they are already posted.)
Have a good weekend.
Natalie in VA
Just a quick note/report on the NARA Genealogy Fair I attended on Wed., Apr 11, at National Archives in Washington, DC.
The theme for the fair: "Buried Biography: Bring 'Em Back to Life" ; this fair focused on Federal records located @ NARA that relate to genealogy, and that CANNOT be researched online (which means one must go to NARA/DC or other NARA facility). If you haven't visited the NARA genealogy site, I recommend doing so - LOTS of good stuff there; this is the URL:
http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/
(Check out the genealogy Workshop schedule - maybe there is something near you to attend).
This URL will provide details regarding the fair:
http://www.archives.gov/dc-metro/know-your-records/genealogy-fair/
The speakers were encouraging genealogists to visit NARA sites to discover obsure (US federal) records that could aid researchers who were WRITING FAMILY HISTORIES and biographies. Some of the information would be helpful for writing about ancestors who immigrated to the U.S.
There were 12 different lectures (could choose only 5).
One of the interesting lectures was called "Stormy Weather" - a discussion of how weather effects families, communities, and local economies. Did severe or cataclysmic weather conditions cause families to move from one place to another, etc. (Note: this lecture was a "maiden" lecture - never before presented; we were the guinea pigs for the speakers - but I thought it was a very interesting topic, and provided food for thought. Samples of types of federal records were: 1) Annual Reports of the Surveyors General; 2) federal annual reports of violent ... weather; 3) records of: the Weather Bureau; WPA; Dept of State (there was a brief discussion of the world-wide effcts of the eruption of the volcano Kracatoa [?sp]); 4) photograph collection.
Though I live in Virginia, i will not be able to attend the NGS conference, There sure are some great presentations scheduled.
Have a good day.
Natalie in VA
agustin mota wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: agustin mota
Subject: Suniga -Luna
To:
I am looking for my lost family can you help? The only information i have is oral history. My grandfathers name was Asencion Luna Haro born around 1892 in Cuculiten Jalisco. My great grandfathers name was Crespin Luna he married Severiana Haro both i believe from the same area.my grandmothers name was Clemencia Suniga born around 1910, married at age 13 died at about age20. after there marrige nothing was ever herd about the Suniga elders. My great grandfathers name was Pedro Suniga i was told came from the Tepetongo area.I was told years ago and recently that there had been a fire in Momax and that these records were lost. My aunts have birth certificates but they provided the information so that the certificate could be made.I know this for a fact.So any information will help get started.I am also reaserching Mota,Herrera,Alvares all from the Momax area these names are progresing due to other records.Thank you all Agustin from northern Sonoma county.
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A quick question.
Is anyone from the group, going to the NGS's conference in Richmond, next week?
Jonathan