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Subject: Somos Primos June 2006 lq-1 Table of Contents
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:29:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

Click here: Somos Primos: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity
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Dear readers,

I hope you all enjoy a wonderful summer with family and friends. Many
have mentioned vacations with family research as part of the activities,
others are planning to attend conference. Please feel invited to share
your experiences and fact finding. Somos Primos reflects you the readers.

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Warm regards, Mimi

NATIONAL ISSUES
Wells Fargo, Sponsors " The Latino OC 100"
The Mexican Border: Fleeing the Throes of Revolution (1912)
Se Si Puede brings HOPE and Dreams into Reality.
On Being Black at a Latino March
Of U.S. Children Under 5, Nearly Half Are Minorities
Immigration issue is complex and requires bilateral solutions
100 Years in the Back Door, Out the Front
Undocumented, Indispensable
Hispanic Influx to Hawaii

Action Taken
Writing Letter to Editor and government officials by Frank Sifuentes
City of Monterey, California
Texas Longhorn Breeders Association of America

Education
Sky's not the limit for NASA astronaut Jose Hernandez
O.C. man uses his story to urge students to stay in school
Encouraging Young People
Hispanic Magazine's Teacher of the Year,
Assimilation Of Immigrants: Fact, says UCLA Sociologist Edward Telles
Helping America's Youth
NCLR Takes Family History Curriculum to Communities
HHS-HEO Digest Features Federal Programs, health, education, etc.
Culture
Hard work helps tear down some old walls
Bullfights scaled down for 9-year old boy
Clay's Kitchen Mexican
Congressional Gold Medal recipients
What Hispanic Awareness Means to Me
Hispanic vs Latino
Latinos or Hispanics? A Debate About Identity
But the language I speak is Spanish
Las Comaderes Para Las Americas

Business
National Latina Business Women Association
Hispanic business growth outpaces U.S. rate
Spanish language skills and Annual Incomes
Hispanics set the pace in business ownership

ANTI-SPANISH LEGENDS
Britt Lomond, 'Zorro' villain, dies at 80
So-called Spanish Flu of 1918

MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT HEROES
A Legacy Greater than Words
My Dad Marcelino R. Bautista in A Legacy Greater Than Words Book
Recommended websites to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month
The Story Behind "Before You Go"
Greatest Play In Major League Baseball - Rick Monday
Vietnam riders impressed with Leakey Hospitality
Hispanic Military Heroes

CUENTOS
A gathering of Grandmother Wisdom-Keepers at MANA meeting
Iona St. Therese Patricia Marie Jordon: Carnival Girl by Frank Sifuentes
Oral History, Los Cuentos de Kiko
OTIUM, online magazine
Micheal Lozano Embarks on a Journey of Self-Discovery, Part 2

SURNAME
The Plazola Family in México

Spanish Sons of the American Revolution
The Story of a Cricket Buckle and Pinching the Spanish Main - All of it!
Early Games in the Americas, Stick Ball or lacross
In Using Hough and Hough Spanish Patriot Series
Moving Gold to Mexico City
Texas Longhorns

ORANGE COUNTY
Ramon Peralta Adobe Mural
Orange County oral histories of war veterans made into documentary,
June 3: screening of student produced documentary on Orange County
June 6: NLBWA-OC's "Emerging Latinas Program"
LULAC Westminster Council #3017 2006 2006 Scholarship Recipients
June 10: Bernardo de Galvez Re-enactor to present to SARs
Historic block party
Steve DeMara: Genealogist/ Historian honored
Capistrano honors native Frances Louise Sherrill,
Rios Family of San Juan Capistrano
Click for report on May 27th SHHAR meeting

LOS ANGELES
June 3: Talamantes-Farias Reunion 2006
June 24 East L.A. Beginning Family History, Viola Sadler & Mimi Lozano
June: UCLA Extension, Family History research, Michael Perez
July 7-9 and August 24-25th: "Sons and Souls of California"
The Glory of Their Times, the Chorizeros
Family Programs at the Getty Villa
Los Tapatiós de California: Returning to Their Jalisco Roots

CALIFORNIA
SHHAR meeting report: Special Books & Heritage Discover Center Guide to
the La Purisima Mission State Historic Park Collection
Example and use of the 1930 Census
Click: Tamale Festival "Bringing Families Together!"
NARA'S Alien files under threat of moving to Missouri
Yosemite Valley, the new French Pyrenees by Alex Loya

NORTHWESTERN UNITED STATES
Why the LDS Church (Mormons) put emphasis on genealogical research

SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES
S: El Monumento de Juan de Oñate
The largest equestrian bronze monument in the world
Manifests of Statistical Alien Arrivals at El Paso, Texas
Documents of the Coronado Expedition, 1539-1542
Muster Roll of the Coronado Expedition of February 22, 1540
Two Discoveries, Two Conquests: Vázquez de Coronado
Ex-Gov. Castro recalls beating odds
Old battle haunts new U.S.-Mexico tensions
Tribute to George I. Sánchez

BLACK
National History Project: Fugitive Slaves in Mexico
Mexico as a haven for fugitive slaves
Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes, Black Indians

INDIGENOUS
Native Hawaiians Seek Right to Land, Self-Government
Districts redrawn to raise number of Indian lawmakers in Mexico
Keeping Dakotah language alive through Scrabble

SEPHARDIC
Ana Kurland: Remnants of Crypto-Jews Among Hispanic Americans
A Research Tool Online for Sephardic Genealogy / Jewish Genealogy
The First Jews in the New World by Joseph Heckelman
60's Latino Militant Now Pursues a Personal Quest: Reies Lopez Tijerina

TEXAS
June 4th & June llth Meet the author, A Legacy Greater Than Words
27th Annual Texas Conference on Hispanic Genealogy & History,
Aug 31st - Sept 3rd
Gloria Candelaria-March, Many roles, but always Mom
May 31 & June 1: The Camels Are Coming to Bandera!
The Celtic connection to Spanish Texas
Texas Adjutant General Service Records 1836-1935
The Index to Texas Probate Records
Americo Paredes Distinguished Lectures
Family on the fringe of the revolution
Spanish trails in Victoria County, Texas
Continuous Presence of Italians and Spaniards in Texas as Early as 1520
Click: Alex Loya's research leads to Sentinel Rock in Yosemite, California

EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI
Donaldsonville Celebrating 200 Years of Culture and History, 1806-2006
Old Families of Louisiana

EAST COAST
July 4th Washington, D.C. Parade
June 2006 National Archives Public Programs
Literature of Latino/a Experience and Relevance in the English Classroom
Immigration Rally in Chapel Hill and Carrboro

MEXICO
Book: Inherit the Dust from the Four Winds of Revilla by José M. Péna
"El Capitan " Don Jose Vasquez Borrego by Anita Rivas Medellin
The Family Tree on the Museum Wall by Ted Vincent
S: Libro: Dos Coahuilense en la Historia de la Patria
S: Libro: Capilla de la Hacienda Santa Ana de los Hornos
S: Datos de Tabasco
S: Confrencia Binacional
S: En el Valle de Tlaltenango por Arturo Ramos
The Descendents of Don Andres de Morales y de la Fuentes
S: Registros en la Catedral de Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico
S: En los Albores de la Independencia

CARIBBEAN/CUBA
Cuban Military Records
The Last Puerto Rican Indian
Historia / Canarias /Navegación

SPAIN
BYU Study Abroad Program
A Modern renaissance in Spain
Cartaya, Huelva
Don Cristóbal Colon

INTERNATIONAL
Sigfrido Burmann, La gira americana de Un Teatro de Arte 1926-1929
Japan's El Bigote, Mexican Restaurant
Las Islas Canarias son una comunidad Autónoma
Linajes de San Miguel de Abona, located on the southern side Tenerife
Guatamalan Genealogist

HISTORY
History of Our Forefathers and Nation!

FAMILY HISTORY
Turn family photos into an artful exhibit
New PAF Genealogical Tutorial available Online...
Another Method of Using FamilySearch.org
Volunteers sought for Beta 2 Test of Research Advice Forums
"The Help Center Research Advice Forums"
Finding Real genealogical Recored amidst the confusion
Using Rootsweb: Exploring the SS-5

ARCHAEOLOGY
Archeologists discover Maya tomb, defy looters
Amazon Stonehenge' found in Brazil
Roman Trade With the Canary Islands

For those of you that can read Spanish here is that file Susana Liniski
sent in which is 800+ pages of information on Zacatecas on two Word
files (part 1 and part 2) that can be found in the "Files" and in the
"Reference Material" and under "Notarias y Otros de Zacatecas" or you
can go directly there via this URL:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14507

I'm sorry but I just haven't had time to look through it very much, but
will look closer when time permits. If some of you or if Susana wants to
give a report or overview of the material covered that would be wonderful.

thanks Prima,

joseph

I remember reading somewhere that priests were required (prior to Mexican independence) to submit a certification of purity of blood (limpieza de sangre). These certifications were basically genealogies going back a few generations.

Does anyone know where the archives of these documents can be found?

Has someone in the group seen one and have a sample of what they look like?

Much apologies for the delay in forwarding this to the group. Here is
some information sent to me by Susana Leniski. The attachments she is
referring to have been uploaded to the website (Files) -->(Reference
Material) area of the group: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14507

[Sorry the Zacatecas word file was too big and will have to be upload
another time].

joseph

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Subject: Re: ZACATECAS
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:53:12 -0700
From: Susana Leniski
To: Joseph Puentes
References: <000701c677d5$fc324490$6401a8c0@DDQTT981>
<446BE2E1.8050404@nc.rr.com>

Susana Leniski wrote:

> Primo:
>
> I'm sending you 2 files that I thought you would be interested in.
> I received them from another geneologist in Mexico City. I don't
> know if you have them. One of them is about the "Notarias".
>
> I also wanted to keep you informed about the microfilming project
> of "La Inmaculada" in Jerez. I've been in contact with the person
> in charge of the archives in Jerez. He made an estimate of how
> many pages haven't been microfilmed (the mayority of them are
> "marriage information". He estimated about 20,000 pages (40,000
> frames). Also, the same person made a photocopy of one of the
> records (proof of the archives). All that information was passed
> to Samuel Garcia (Sociedad Genealogica del Norte de Mexico). With
> that information he has the tools to solicite a team for
> microfilming. In regard to Tlaltenango (municipal archives) and
> Colotlan (the convent), we are doing the same process. Arturo
> Ramos has to talk to his contact in Mexico to estimate the number
> of pages, and also we need a proof of the archives. I will keep
> you informed. Hopefully, sometime in the future, all these
> records will be available in microfilm.
>
> I spoke to Samuel Garcia from Sociedad Genealogica del Norte de
> Mexico (http://www.genealogia.org.mx). He asked me to pass to the
> group the following message:
>
> 1. First, He asked me to extend his gratitude to many group
> members for the interest in the fundraising books. It was brought
> to his attention that the shipping was more expensive than the
> books ($35.00). He is trying to get a better rate thru Regular
> Mexican Mail (registered mail). He told me that you will have the
> choice of Federal Express or Regular Register Mexican Mail. I
> don't know if he has the new price for shipping, but definately,
> it will be cheaper.
>
> 2. Second, They just added new books, like a Heraldic Diccionary
> for Spanish Surnames.
>
> 3. One of the group members suggested to him adding a way to
> contribute to the microfilming project. In respond to this, they
> just added in the website a $10.00 donation button, for those who
> would want to contribute.
>
> 4. In the website, they are also working very hard to add
> information that you could download online. Right now they have
> just information about Monterrey, but very soon they are going to
> have "Historia de Mexico para Genealogistas".
>
> As you can see, the wheels are turning.
>
> Saludos
>
> Tu prima Susana Leniski

I saw this message on RootsWeb and was wondering if any on the group
have heard about the Zacatecas City records being kept in the "Museo
Archives to protect them from decay" ?

joseph

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Subject: Zacatecas Films Message: Read
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:18:15 -0500
From: Joseph Puentes
To: makas@nc.rr.com

Subject:
microfilm
From:
eaherold@att.net
Date:
29 May 2006 10:56:46 -0600

To:
MEX-ZACATECAS-L@rootsweb.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.

Classification: Query

Message Board URL:

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GaC.2ACE/1023

Message Board Post:

It is possible you can't find film because

1) Laguna Grande was not a large town before the dates
you mentioned and baptisms, marriage and death information was recorded in the records of another larger town nearby

2) the records are located ath diocean archves and have not been filmed

3) they are in Zacatecas city in the museo archives for protection from decay like the early records from Zacatecas City and Fresnillo. There is a rumor that the films in this archive may be filmed.

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Subject:
Re: Laguna Grande Baptisms - FHL Microfilm Research
From:
eaherold@att.net
Date:
29 May 2006 10:58:44 -0600

To:
MEX-ZACATECAS-L@rootsweb.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.

Classification: Query

Message Board URL:

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GaC.2ACE/1022.1

Message Board Post:

It is possible you can't find film because

1) Laguna Grande was not a large town before the dates
you mentioned and baptisms, marriage and death information was recorded in the records of another larger town nearby

2) the records are located ath diocean archves and have not been filmed

3) they are in Zacatecas city in the museo archives for protection from decay like the early records from Zacatecas City and Fresnillo. There is a rumor that the films in this archive may be filmed.

Listen to some new podcasts that the Nuestra Familia Unida podcast
project has received permission to link to:

http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/history.html#cris (Cristero War)
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/misc.html (Maps & Hispanic
Society of America)

Also very soon we'll have more contributions from Frank Moreno Sifuentes:

Stella By Starlight
Pedro Chaisse

I'm also very thankful that Frank has recruited one of his friends from
Austin, Tx., Ramon Moncivais to work on contributing oral history
podcasts for the project. I'm also looking forward to having some new
Poetry for the podcast.

thanks,

joseph

I've sent this message out to the Ranchos Yahoo Group:

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Sorry about this scare. You all thought that the Yahoo Ranchos was Dead
and here it is raising it's head again. Kind of reminds me of a joke
I'll share with anyone that emails me requesting it.

This is a special notice and probably the very very last message you'll
get from the Yahoo Ranchos Group. I'm sending this out because some in
the Yahoo Group never transitioned over to the new site located at:
http://nuestrosranchos.org

If you are one of the ones that never transitioned your membership has
been deleted and you'll have to go through the "create new account"
option at http://nuestrosranchos.org if you want to be part of the group.

It might be a couple of days before I get around to deleting the old
non-transitioning members so if you just happened to be one of those and
don't want me to delete your membership please Rush to your keyboard and
FIRE off a quick email to makas@nc.rr.com asking that you not be
"Deleted" from the group.

If you know of someone that is not participating and might be too shy to
ask for technical help please encourage them to email me. I will do my
best to help them easily navigate the new group.

If you think you are part of the new group but are not receiving emails
then something is wrong and you need to send an email to me at
makas@nc.rr.com so we can see if your membership needs a bit of tweaking
to make it right.

thanks,

joseph

Joseph Puentes - Owner/Moderator of Ranchos Yahoo group

Joseph and Arturo,

While entering films for Teocaltiche, I made an incomplete entry and in trying to go back to correct it I created a new entry for the same film rather than correcting the original entry. The entry is for Baptisms, Batch # C024197, years 1640-1786. This batch does not have a film # associated with it, don't know if this is because it was a compilation of films or loose pages or other. In any case I wanted to notify you so you would know who created the error. Maybe you can remove the first one I created that was incomplete.

Thanks for your help,
Alicia

Amen. . .I totally agree. We in the USA owe a lot to our fallen heroes.
we should take every opportunity to thank vets not just on Memorial day
but every opportunity we have. Read past the quote for another idea:

[[[We pay our respects to all the fallen heroes. Perhaps the most
profound tribute of all was made on the first national memorial
observance in May, 1868, by then - General James A. Garfield when he
said: "They summed up and perfected, by one supreme act, the highest
virtues of men and citizens. For love of country they accepted death,
and thus resolved all doubts, and made immortal their patriotism and
virtue."]]]

I for one like to remember the Fallen Heroes in my Family, injured and
seriously affected as well, but we should think of those and honor those
that were just there. Here is my list and I hope you will take the
opportunity to list your family (feel free to list even if they are from
other areas or ethnicity's):

Died in Action:

Miguel Diaz - Santa Paula, CA - WW2
Miguel Puentes - San Jose, CA - Vietnam

Wounded in Action:

Eduardo Puentes - Santa Paula, CA - WW2
Frank Ascarate - Santa Paula, CA - WW2

Served in Action:

Manuel Puentes - Santa Paula, CA - WW2
Frank Puentes - Santa Paula, CA - WW2
Jose Refugio Puentes - Santa Paula, CA - WW2
Carlos Puentes Espinoza - Santa Paula, CA - Vietnam

Registered and Ready to Serve:

Joseangel Diaz - Santa Paula, CA - WW1
Julio Puentes - Santa Paula, CA - WW1
Antonio Puentes - Santa Paula, CA - WW2 (deferment)

We pay our respects to all the fallen heroes. Perhaps the most profound tribute of all was made on the first national memorial observance in May, 1868, by then - General James A. Garfield when he said: "They summed up and perfected, by one supreme act, the highest virtues of men and citizens. For love of country they accepted death, and thus resolved all doubts, and made immortal their patriotism and virtue."

Hispanics have been loyally involved in all the wars since the “War of Independence” for the United States of America to the present war in Iraq. United We Stand!

MEMORIAL DAY

THE 40
Latin-American
Congressional Medals of Honor
1864- 1970

Admiral David Glasgow Farragut

A Hispanic American of Spanish descent, Admiral David Farragut was the U.S. Navy's first full-fledged admiral of the rapidly expanding Navy in the Civil War.

Although most recipients were recognized soon after their acts of valor, others, such as Vietnam War veteran Alfred Rascón and WWII veteran Rudolph Dávila, had to wait decades. We list them along with their fellow soldiers in war.*

Civil War

Sergeant Joseph H. De Castro (Boston, MA)
1864 U.S. Army

Regular Seaman John Ortega (Spain)
1864 U.S. Navy

Regular Seaman Philip Bazaar (Chile)
1865 U.S. Navy

Boxer Rebellion

Private France Silva (Haywood, CA)
1901 U.S.M.C.

World War I

First Lieutenant David Barkley (Laredo, TX)
1918 U.S.Army

World War II

Private Joe P. Martinez (Taos, NM)
1943 U.S. Army

Staff Sergeant Lucian Adams (Port Arthur, TX)
1944 U.S. Army

Sergeant Jose M. Lopez (Mission, TX)
1944 U.S. Army

Staff Sergeant Macario Garcia (Mexico)
1944 U.S. Army

Private First Class Harold Gonsalves (Alameda, CA)
1945 U.S.M.C.

Private First Class David H. Gonzales (Pacoima, CA)
1945 U S. Army

Private First Class Silvestre S. Herrera (El Paso, TX)
1945 U.S. Army

Private First Class Manuel Perez, Jr. (Oklahoma City, OK)
1945 U.S. Army

Technical Sergeant Cleto Rodriguez (San Marcos, TX)
1945 U.S. Army

Private First Class Alejandro R. Ruiz (Loving, NM)
1945 U.S. Army

Private First Class Jose F. Valdez (Governador, NM)
1945 U.S. Army

Staff Sergeant Ysmael R. Villegas (Casa Blanca, CA)
1945 U.S. Army

*Staff Sergeant Rudolph Davila (El Paso, TX)
2000 U.S. Army

Korean Conflict

First Lieutenant Baldomero Lopez (Tampa, FL)
1950 U.S.M.C.

Private First Class Eugene A. Obregon (Los Angeles, CA)
1950 U.S.M.C.

Private First Class Edward Gomez (Omaha, NE)
195l U.S.M.C.

Corporal Rodolfo P. Hernandez (Colton, CA)
l951 U.S.M.C.

Sergeant Joseph C. Rodriguez (San Bernardino, CA)
1951 U.S. Army

Corporal Benito Martinez (Fort Hancock, TX)
1952 U.S. Army

Private First Class Fernando Luis Garcia (Utuado, PR)
1952 U.S.M.C

Staff Sergeant Ambrosio Guillen (La Junta, CO)
1953 U.S.M.C.

Vietnam Era

Specialist Fourth Class Daniel Fernandez (Albuquerque, NM)
1966 U.S. Army

Captain Euripides Rubio (Ponce, PR)
1966 U. S. Army

Private First Class Carlos James Lozada (Caguas, PR)
1967 U.S. Army

First Sergeant Maximo Yabes (Lodi, CA)
1967 U.S. Army

Major Jay R. Vargas, Jr. (Winslow, AZ)
1968 U.S.M.C.

Master Sergeant Roy P. Benavidez (El Campo, TX)
1968 U.S. Army

Sergeant Alfredo Gonzales (Edingurge, TX)
1968 U.S.M.C.

Specialist Fourth Class Hector Santiago-Colon (Salinas, PR)
1968 U. S. Army

Lance Corporal Jose Francisco Jimenez (Mexico)
1969 U.S.M.C.

Private First Class Ralph E. Dias (Shelocia, IN)
1969 U.S.M.C.

Lance Corporal Emilio A. De la Garza, Jr. (Chicago, IL)
1970 U.S.M.C.

Lance Corporal Miguel Keith (San Antonio, TX)
1970 U.S.M.C.

Warrant Officer Louis R. Rocco (Albuquerque, NM)
1970 U.S. Army

*Specialist Fourth Class Alfred Rascón (Chihuahua, Mexico)

2000 U.S. Army

IRAQ

First U.S. casualty in Iraq.
Marine Lance Cpl. José Antonio Gutiérrez, 22, of Los Ángeles, California

Gutierrez died March 21, 2003 in Southern Iraq during the initial ground operations of the war.
He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, Camp Pendleton, California.
Gutierrez was an undocumented citizen from Guatemala. His remains were sent to Guatemala for burial. He was granted U.S.Citizenship posthumously.

We now have three members who have contributed to the GEDCOM database. We have a few other people who asked for accounts to be set up but have not yet uploaded data.

If there is anybody who would like to put their genealogy data (even if it is just a fraction of what you have) in this searchable database, please let me know and I will be happy to help you get it online. I think that building the database, particularly ancestors from the earlier centuries (those that we might share with other members) would be incredibly helpful for the group.

Also, the films database is a very valuable tool and I am quite sure that we don't have even half of the relevant batch numbers entered in there. If anybody has some spare time and is familiar with the familysearch website, it would be great if you could volunteer some time and get some more films and batch numbers in there.

If you think you can and are willing to help please let me know and I can guide you. You can begin by browsing through the films list and at the bottom of each state listing there is a list of municipios for which we have no films entered.

Thank you Alicia,

Sure sounds like an interesting story. I will answer him. Maybe he
has some leads to my Romero/de la Torre family.

Linda

>
> HI LINDA,
> YO SOY DE TEPATITLAN, Y MI MAMA ES ROMERO, MI ABUELA SE
> LLAMABA FELICIANA ROMERO, CASADA CON JESUS ENRIQUEZ, ELLA MURIO MUY
> JOVEN, a el papa de mi abuelo lo ahorcaron por robarle a ver si les
> suena familiar, no se el ano exacto de su muerte pero debe haber sido
> por el 1925 no se voy a indagar no se si te suene familiar el nombre
> de Irineo De LA Torre. en fin despues si gustas platicaremos.
>
>
>
>
> gracias.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:08:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Alicia Carrillo
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] translation please
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID: <20060522220830.950.qmail@web81612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Linda,
>
> I will give the translation a try.
>
> It says something like this.
> Hi Linda, I am from Tepatitlan, my mother is a Romero and my
> grandmother was named Feliciana Romero, married to Jesus Enriquez,
> she died very young. My grandfather's father was hanged in order to
> rob him. Does this sound familiar, I don't know the exact year of
> his death but it must have been around 1925. Does this name sound
> familiar, Irineo De La Torre. perhaps if you are interested we can
> talk later.
> Thank You
>
>
> HI LINDA,
> YO SOY DE TEPATITLAN, Y MI MAMA ES ROMERO, MI ABUELA SE
> LLAMABA FELICIANA ROMERO, CASADA CON JESUS ENRIQUEZ, ELLA MURIO MUY
> JOVEN, a el papa de mi abuelo lo ahorcaron por robarle a ver si les
> suena familiar, no se el ano exacto de su muerte pero debe haber sido
> por el 1925 no se voy a indagar no se si te suene familiar el nombre
> de Irineo De LA Torre. en fin despues si gustas platicaremos.
>
>
>
>
> gracias.
>
>
>
>
>

have a listen to the Nuestra Familia Unida for a couple of very good
History podcasts from the "Here On Earth" podcast.

the first is about the 700+ years of Muslim Occupation of Spain:
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/history.html

the second is about the Foods of America:
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/comida.html

also if you get a chance have a listen to several new Oral History audio
files by Frank Moreno Sifuentes:
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/oral_history.html

[Note: the first two podcast from Here On Earth are formatted to Real
Player. If you don't have Real Player on your computer it would be well
worth downloading this free software just to listen to the podcasts. You
can download it free here: http://www.real.com/player --- make sure you
get the free one as they will try to sell you their $20 version which is
only worth it if you are going to use it alot]

Will someone please translate this for me. The translation online
was confusing. Thank you.

HI LINDA,
YO SOY DE TEPATITLAN, Y MI MAMA ES ROMERO, MI ABUELA SE
LLAMABA FELICIANA ROMERO, CASADA CON JESUS ENRIQUEZ, ELLA MURIO MUY
JOVEN, a el papa de mi abuelo lo ahorcaron por robarle a ver si les
suena familiar, no se el ano exacto de su muerte pero debe haber sido
por el 1925 no se voy a indagar no se si te suene familiar el nombre
de Irineo De LA Torre. en fin despues si gustas platicaremos.

gracias.

Greetings from Switzerland! I took some R&R time in Italy and found someone
born in Mexico and buried in Italy! I went to Venice a couple of weeks ago
and took a water taxi across the lagoon from Venice to the Island of St.
Michele. It is a walled cemetery island in a quiet garden setting and a
wide variety of memorials. I did not look at all the burial sites since it
is extremely large but, as fate would have it, I found a beautiful burial
site of a gentleman named Salvador Yturbide. The tombstone reads:

"Salvador Yturbide, nacido en Mejico el 18 Setiembre 1849, muerto en
Ajaccio 26 Febreri 1895."

I took a picture of this and will share with anyone who may connect to this
gentleman.

Josie Trevino-Trevino

Have a listen to the latest submissions by Frank Moreno Sifuentes at:
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com/podcast/oral_history.html and if you
haven't already continue listening to the next group of stories from the
"Chicken Soup for the Latino Soul" podcast [see below]

Oral History

Los Cuentos de Kiko

I'm so happy to introduce Frank Moreno Sifuentes to the Nuestra Familia
Unida podcast community. In this series of Oral History Cuentos expect
to hear about one family, but the experiences are those of an immigrant
nation. In the introductory Cuento "Las Lagrimas de Mama Grande Juanita
- 1938" You'll hear of a family that endured hardship as immigrants in
this country in the hopes of a better life for "la familia."

===> "Las Lagrimas de Mama Grande Juanita - 1938" by Frank Moreno
Sifuentes

===> "1915 - Mexican Immigrant" by Frank Moreno Sifuentes

===> "The Day Roosevelt Died - 1944" by Frank Moreno Sifuentes

===> "With Due Respect to Erma Bombeck" by Frank Moreno Sifuentes

===> "From Drive By Shootings to Toxic Clouds" by Frank Moreno Sifuentes

===> "The Black Squad - 1948" by Frank Moreno Sifuentes

=================

Chicken Soup for the Latino Soul

I've been in contact with Dr. Susan Sánchez-Casal and she has graciously
given Nuestra Familia Unida permission to link to her podcast located
at: http://www.latinosoul.com

Welcome to Chicken Soup for the Latino Soul

Along with Jack Canfield, Mark Victor Hansen and the 73 contributing
authors whose wonderful stories and poems are reaching out to thousands
across the nation, I welcome you to the Latino Soul website. Chicken
Soup for the Latino Soul brings together some of the most talented
voices and insightful perspectives in American storytelling today. It is
a book by, for and about Latin@ people, but its diverse, blockbuster
stories and poems have appeal for ALL readers (of course it won't hurt
if you're already interested in Latino life in the USA, and the richness
of Latino cultures and storytelling!). Latino Soul is a book to be read
and reread, to be shared and treasured. Everytime you come back to the
book, you will discover something new. Here's what Emmy award-winning
journalist Catherine Anaya says about Latino Soul:

"Chicken Soup for the Latino Soul: Celebrating La Comunidad Latina is a
collection of powerful stories and poems written by people from all over
the country. They are stories about family, loyalty to our parents, the
wisdom of our grandparents, the deep sense of faith in the community,
and so much more... The stories will make you laugh, they'll make you
cry and if you're like me, you'll finish the book with an even greater
sense of Latino strength and pride" (Catherine Anaya, Latino
Perspectives Magazine, www.latinoperspectivesmagazine.com). But don't
take anyone's word for it! Check out the selection of featured stories
in The Book section and see for yourself why everyone is praising Latino
Soul.

Gracias, y un saludo caluroso,

Susan Sánchez-Casal

***BEST CHOICE: Please subscribe to her podcast by inserting the
follwing RSS feed into your aggragator software:
http://www.latinosoul.com/rss/latinosoul.xml

or you can download to your computer by right clicking on the following
links and choosing "Save Target Link As" to save to your computer or
just click on the link to listen to the podcast directly on your computer:

===> Podcast #1 - Introduction, reading of poem "University Avenue" by
Pat Mora

===> Podcast #2 - Marie Delgado Travis reads "Abolengo"

===> Podcast #3 - Anjela Villarreal Ratliff reads "In My Classroom"

===> Podcast #4 - Norma Oquendo reads "I'll Always Remember You"

===> Podcast #5 - Kathy Cano Murillo reads "Dad, The Rock Star of Tamale
Makers"

===> Podcast #6 - Marie Delgado Travis reads "Me and Don Paco"

===> Podcast #7 - Monica Garcia Saenz reads "A Hero's Story"

===> Podcast #8 - Nilsa Mariano reads "Hunger"

To any and all within striking distance of the East Coast. Come and be
part of the Parade in DC on July 4th.

joseph

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Washington, D.C. Parade
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 12:52:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tcarahq@aol.com
To: makas@nc.rr.com
CC: MIMILOZANO@aol.com, Jfc0987@aol.com, jstaacke@satx.rr.com,
ssutton5@satx.rr.com

Dear Joseph Puentes:
Thank you for your interest in the Texas Connection to the American
Revolution Association (TCARA) and its participation in our Nation's
Independence Day Parade in Washington, D.C.
TCARA is planning to participate in the parade again this year but
with the addition of a small float (Approx. 16') towed by vehicle. We
anticipate approximately 15+ in our group but would like MANY more. So
if you would like to join us at the parade, we would love to welcome you
and anyone you bring.
We will be in American Revolutionary "period dress" but that is NOT
a prerequisite. Some of us will walk and some (especially those that
can't walk) will ride the float. We are also in need of a driver for the
vehicle that is towing the float and possibly to help coordinate local
support.
Our website is www.TCARA.NET and I can be
reached via telephone at 210-651-4709 (San Antonio). Let me know if you
can make the parade and I will keep you posted as the details of our
plans develop.
Again, please accept this as your invitation to participate with
TCARA in the Independence Day Parade and by all means, invite your friends.

VIVA TCARA!
Jack Cowan
President, TCARA

Many thanks to all who have contributed to my project on Chihuahua.

I intend to follow up my study on Chihuahua with one on Aguascalientes along the same broad outlines.

So if you have any books you can part with on Aguascalientes, or old family photos to share, please let me know.

I will need volunteers to translate books from Spanish to English in their own hmes. Any volunteers will be credited in the finished work.

Seguro que leo, escribo y hablo castellano. Mi mama es de Hidalgo del Parral y tengo mucho orgullo de ser parte de una cultura tan alta como la Mexicana.

Pueden mandarme fotos antiguos familiares y libros hisotricos y genealogicos de Chihuahua y Aguascalientes a su gusto.

Por email o a mi domicilio:

Ernie Alderete
2081 Vancouver Ave.
Monterey Park, California 91754 USA

No estoy interesado en dinero. Solo ayudar a los que buscan sus raices y mejorar el imagen de nuestra gente.

I'm not interested in money. Only in helping fellow researchers and improving the image of our people.

I'm writing an English language guide to the genealogy and history of Chihuahua that I think will be of use to everyone tracing their roots to Chihuahua.

I need additional source material. In particular books on Chihuahua's history and genealogy as well as family narratives. There must be several hundred books on the subject, virtualy 99% in Spanish, most out of print, most had small print runs in the first place, many were printed by small concerns in out of the way towns and pueblos.

I can translate and synthesize all the information into one English language source.

If you have a book that might be of help, please let me know. If you donate a book, or pamphlet you will receive a copy of the completed study.

If you rather sell your material, I'm willing to buy.

Used, worn out copies are just fine. I'm not looking for a handsome library, just a lot of information.

You are welcome to donate scans of your family photos of Chihuahua. Pictures of people and places, the landscape, the way life used to be.

I have hundreds of pictrures already, but you never know what might show up.

I don't intend this to be the typical Pancho Villa dominated story. It will tell the story of all of our people, all our families, not just mine.

I think I can paint an exciting and accurate narrative as well as supply the facts and create a guide.

>
> Arturo & Joseph,

I believe that priests (maybe only some?) are still required to submit
genealogical type of information. The reason I say this is that I visited
an Uncle of mine who lives in the Rancho de San Nicolás de los Abundis a few
years ago. He is interested in genealogy and has done some research, so I
brought him a pedigree chart that I printed for him. His comment to me was
that it would've been nice for his son (who is an ordained priest) to have
had that chart when he needed it to present to the Archdiocese. I assume
from this comment that priests still submit their genealogies before being
ordained.

Maria

Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Priests' Genealogies (Joseph Puentes)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:41:00 -0500
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Priests' Genealogies
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID: <44652B1C.8090600@nc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> arturoramos wrote:
>
> >I remember reading somewhere that priests were required (prior to Mexican
> independence) to submit a certification of purity of blood (limpieza de
> sangre). These certifications were basically genealogies going back a few
> generations.
> >
> >Does anyone know where the archives of these documents can be found?
> >
> >Has someone in the group seen one and have a sample of what they look
> like?
> >
> do you think they might be in some of these records? I've not looked
> into these records yet and would like to one day order a film to see
> what kind of info there is for them. I've got a Cipriano Puente who was
> a priest in Huejucar during the 1860's-1870's and I'd be interested to
> see if he is related. But this is after Independence so would'nt fit in
> with purity of blood idea:
>
> Title
> Documentos eclesi?sticos, 1604-1898
>
> Authors
> Iglesia Cat?lica. Di?cesis de Guadalajara (M?xico) (Main Author)
>
> Notes
> Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en
> Guadalajara.
> Ordenes de los ingresos al sacerdocio.
> Documents regarding ordinations to the priesthood within the Roman
> Catholic Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> Subjects
> M?xico, Jalisco - Church records
> M?xico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records
>
> Format
> Manuscript (On Film)
>
> Language
> Spanish
>
> Publication
> Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Geneal?gica de Utah,
> 1957-1958
>
> Physical
> 131 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.
>
> Film Notes
> Note - Location [Film]
> Ordenes 1648-1881 - VAULT INTL Film [ 168673 ]
>

Hello All! long time no posting! Anyway, when someone posts a new "genealogical" file, or edit's one...how does everyone/anyone find out? The reason I ask is that I added to new files to my tree and wondered how anyone would know to go there and look at it?

If there is something else that I'm not doing, then I guess this is my notification.....here it goes...

I'm very excited to tell you all that I've been moving forward in my research and have found two more "limbs" in my family tree that landed in Zacatecas! Please view my "Baez Family" file and my "Oviedo Family". This is my maternal line - one that I didn't think would interest this group because my researched centered in Coahuila...it turns out this road led me to Noria de Angeles, Zacatecas, Fresnillo Zacatecas and Zacatecas Zacatecas.

Hope all the Mother's out there had a great day - I know I did....

Peggy

Hi All,

Charles asked me this question and since my research is not around
Nochistlan I thought I'd forward this on to the group. If any of you all
have this information maybe it would be good to make a file in the
reference area of the group for the Estancias.

thanks,

joseph

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Nochistlan/La Estancias
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:12:02 -0700
From: Charles Clark
To: Joseph Puentes

Joseph:

Do you have a list of the La Estancias ... in and around Nochistlan?

I have been looking for the complete name of the birth place of my
grandfather, Pedro Rodriguez born in 1883 in "La Estancia." He was
married to Maria Ulloa and they had many many common ancestors with many
of them listed in Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' book. That is
how the place was described by my mother and her sisters but I know
that that was only part of the name. I thought that the birth
certificate would give the full name except that it is too hard to read.
I recently saw pictures of it and it seemed a bit larger than I
expected. I also saw pictures of his house which I am told is over 300
years old.

As always, I appreciate any help you can give me.

Sincerely,

Charles Clark

Nathan,

Is this the same Diego ROMO DE VIVAR that was born 12 Mar 1589 in Relves,
Toledo, Espana? If so, he is my 8th GGrandfather.

Ken Alva
Southern California

Gracias to all member that responded favorable.
My project has taken me from prehispanic time to the present(1968-71). I have tried to incorporate several short stories "cuentos" and novels that has a "Fiesta" or celebration of somewhere within the drama/dialog. Some have a political overtone, but I feel strongly that the message must continue and that more mexicanos/hispanics/chicanos must be aware. I hope I don't offend or shock anyone. Thanks, Francisco.

Gracias a todos los miembros que respondieron favorable.
El proyecto me ha llevado desde los tiempos precortecinos al presente (1968-71). He tratado de incorporar algunos cuentos y novelas que se refieren a una "fiesta o a una celebracion dentro de la drama/dialogo. Algunos de los cuentos tienen un tono politico, pero creo que el mensaje tiene que continuar y espero que mas mexicanos/as/hispanos/chicanos/ tienen que darse cuenta. Espero no ofender o alarmar a nadie. Gracias Francisco

PS/PD Lo siento pero el trabajo esta en Espanol..I'm sorry but the project was done in Spanish.

Ok I have created a file in NUESTROS RANCHOS web page, the file name is fiestas mexicanas project or proyecto a ranchos.doc

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Okay I finally got around to stripping the living people out of my
gedcom and uploading it to the Gedcom section of the group: have a look
at it when you have some time.

Here is how I was told by a member of the Family Tree Maker lysis group
to Strip the living individuals from a FTM gedcom:

Make a backup of your file just in case Murphy's law strikes!

go to File, preference, privatize
or
File, privatize, depending on which version you have

file, copy/export the privatized file - name it something that you will
recognize as being a COPY of your file - like temp-privatized-file

Un-privatize & then close your regular file
-------------------

now this part is very very very important:

Open the privatized COPY!!! of your file

Make sure you are working with the privatized COPY!!! of your file

make a custom report that includes everyone with the word "Private" in
Birth, Death, Marriage, etc. field

people, delete individuals in Report

file, copy/export the file into a gedcom. . .since this is from the
privatized copy that has now just had all the individuals that were
marked private DELETED from the file you can create a gedcom that will
be free of any living individuals.

joseph