Nuestros Ranchos Site

Hello,
I'm new to this process and to this site. I'm trying to track down my ancestor's, Francisco Villanueva Andrade's, family line. He was born in San Deigo, Quiltupan, Jalisco in 1926. Right now, I'm trying to locate his parent's birth, death certificate information and hopefully their marriage information. Their names are: Faustino Orozco and Antonia Andrade Medina.

I was told Antonia was a very devoted Catholic. I was told she was instrumental in helping their local Parrish building come to be (she contacted the Catholic Church and got the ball rolling to get a priest there...worked in the church until the day she died, and she even raised funds to get the building and priest there). The name of the Parrish is: Parroquia del SAGRADO CORAZON DE JESUS , EN SANTA CLARA DE VALLADARES MUNICIPIO DE TOCUMBO MICHOACAN. CP. 59961. I'm not familiar with Mexico addresses and I tried to Google the Parrish to get more information regarding it and got nothing. I even tried a Catholic website for a Parrish locator and got nothing. I've searched for this couple on ancestry.com at a local family history center and got nothing. I've also searched for them on familysearch.com and got nothing...again.

So, here's my questions...1-What is the best route to take in trying to locate their birth and death information when I am in the US and this information is in Jalisco, Mexico? 2-Is there another database with lots of Mexican files, or do I need to start trying to obtain this information by snail mail or using the "old-school" genie research way? 3-The Parish I mentioned above, is this an address? If not, anyone know how I can locate their address? 3-Would the Parrish have this information? Is this a good place to start in gathering family information? I appreciate anyone who can help me with my questions and/or any tips on genie research.
Thank you in advance for your help.
M. Lowry

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15529-36614-33?cc=1804458&wc…

the entry i'm talking about is for dominga acosta & juana maria ulloa. i think juana maria ulloa is a sister of one of my ancestors named isbael ulloa. i was able to connect juana maria to maria josefa ulloa in a marriage dispensation, and maria josefa to juan in another, and juan to isabel in another.

With regards to the previous message I sent a few days ago if anyone has
trouble opening the link I can try sending it to you in an email. Let me
know. Here is that previous email:

Subject: Conference, Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society, August 2014

Nuestros Ranchos, our 5th annual NGGS Conference

Here is a link that gives much information about the Nueva Galicia
Genealogical Society 5th Annual Conference. Please be patient as it will
take a little while to download onto your computer:

http://h2opodcast.com/misc/NuevaGaliciaGenealogicalSocietyAug2014.rtf

Subject: Conference, Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society, August 2014

Nuestros Ranchos, our 5th annual NGGS Conference

Here is a link that gives much information about the Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society 5th Annual Conference. Please be patient as it will take a little while to down load onto your computer:

http://h2opodcast.com/misc/NuevaGaliciaGenealogicalSocietyAug2014.rtf

I am researching ancestors from Zacatecas and have found several documents from FamilySearch.org. I am stuck on one particular line on my grandmother's side.

If you have any of these people in your family tree, could you please reply to me? And if you do not, but have research tips, could you please reply as well? I am very curious to trace back further generations on this line.

1. Gorgonio Lopez b. about 1845. m. Maria Edurrigis Carrillo (b. 1837 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico). d. before 1887.

2. Jose Cruz Lopez b. about 1865 in Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico about. m. Francisca Rodriguez de los Reyes (b. about 1872 in La Calera, Zacatecas, Mexico) 1887 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico. d. before 1909.
3. Maria Paula Lopez b. 1888 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
3. Maria Margarita Lopez b. 1893 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico m. Jose Antunez Perez (b. 1886 San Pedro de Colonias, Coahuila, Mexico) 1909. d. 1979 in Orange, California, USA.
3. Maria Juana Lopez b. 1898 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico.

* I believe that Maria Edurrigis Carrillo was remarried to Tranqulino Garcia (b. about 1827) on 20 Jun 1887 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico.

I am having difficulty finding death records for everyone in the above line except for my great-grandparents who migrated back and forth from Tijuana to the USA in the 1900s. I am also having difficulty finding records from this time, and I do not know what area in Tijuana they lived in.

I would also like to discover any brothers that the Maria Lopez sisters may have had and other siblings of Jose Cruz Lopez.

Some of the church records are missing in the FamilySearch.org online records, such as La Calera 1872 for Francisca Rodriguez Perez and in Jerez 1865 for Jose Cruz Lopez.

I thank you in advance!
--Natalie

From: Alicia Carrillo [mailto:alliecar@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 9:15 PM
To: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Last Call for Nueva Galicia Conference

Joseph,

Can you send out the last announcement for the 2013, NGGS CONFERENCE in
Sacramento.

Last Call for the 2013 Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Conference in
Sacramento, California to be held on Saturday Sept 14th.

Don't miss out on hearing the 2 Phd's and historians as they recount the
history of Colonial times in Nueva Galicia.

http://www.nuevagalicia.net/special_events/

Thanks,

Alicia

Hola a todos: Busco donde puedo accesar a los Archivos Históricos del Arzobispado de Durango, microfilmados por la: "Rio Grande Historical Collections" de la "New Mexico State University Library" pues al parecer la universidad NO los tiene en linea. Me intersa la seccion: "0038 Testamentos" en lo referente a CAPELLANIAS. Muchas gracias!

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http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2014/spmay14/spmay14.htm

Dear Primos and friends:

The May issue features Cesar Chavez and a series of articles revealing the impact that Chavez' life has made in the United States. At a meeting of the Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research, Judge Rick Aguirre, and his wife Linda, who is related to Cesar Chavez, shared the facts of Cesar's family. They were pioneers, early Arizona US Government Land Grant recipients. Most Americans would assume that Cesar was an immigrant field worker. I did. Their family history research changed my perspective.

More and more historians, educators, and family history researchers are uncovering facts that are changing their personal perspectives. Two weeks ago, I did a presentation on writing your family history at a large Family History Fair (about 25 instructors). The theme was "Beyond Genealogy." Querying those in attendance, all expressed a desire to share with their children and grandchildren to increase understanding and respect for their own families, to discover inherent strengths and talents.

Building a base of family stories will help us prepare and encourage us in the effort to bring about a National Museum of the American Latino.
Featured in May is a cluster of articles concerning the status of the Museum. Hope you feel the need to start writing your family history.

Twenty years ago, while attending an event in Washington, D.C., I was asked matter of fact by a non-Hispanic, "Will your folk really, really have anything to put into a Museum?" I say we do . . .

Table of Contents

CESAR CHAVEZ
Cuban Actor Tony Plana joins campaign for National Cesar Chavez Day Ex-Braceros Win Demand by Martha Zarate Oración de la lucha del campesino/Prayer of the Farm Workers' Struggle by Jesus Rafael Gonzalez En celebración de César E. Chávez by Jesus Rafael Gonzalez Cesar Chavez: A Solemn Procession César E. Chávez National Monument Welcomed César Is Not a Museum Piece by Kent Paterson Comments About Cesar Chavez movie
Cuento: A Proud Primo . . . Joe Merino
The Cesar Chavez Film in Perspective: Hollywood vs History Pelicula Sobre Cesar Chavez NATIONAL MUSEUM OF THE AMERICAN LATINO What is the Status of the National Museum of the American Latino? by Mimi Lozano National Museum Of The American Latino Could Be Threatened By Immigrant Museum by Tony Castro Latino Americans Wins the coveted Peabody Award by John Valadez Comments by Dr. Refugio Rochin, Jose Antonio Lopez, Delia Gonzalez Huffman Latino Museum plans in limbo. Site to become “pop-up” space by Sam Sturgis How likely is a national Latino museum? by Steve Linan Latinos and Afro-Latino Legacy in the United States: history, culture, and issues of identity.
by Refugio I. Rochin, Ph.D.

UNITED STATES
USA statistics for the Year 1910
La Gran Voz del Pueblo
Cuento: My Turn by Daisy Wanda Garcia
Cuento: Amelia Diaz's amazing life, Shared by Gil Chavez
Cuento: Part 2, Highly Political Organizations Nervously Studied,
My Work in USAID By José M. Peña Teaching Tolerance Latino Civil Rights Timeline, 1903 to 2006
NCLR: A Packed Agenda: CASA Project Day
NCLR: July 18-22 National Conference, Los Angeles

HISTORIC TIDBITS
Benito Juarez
Mexican revolutionary captures San Antonio, April 1, 1813 The Battle of San Jacinto, March 13, 1836 US Troops March on Monterrey, Mexico, Sept 21-24, 1846 One of the biggest gun battles in the history of the American West, Laredo, Texas, 1886 Mexican-descent citizens originating in Early Texas, not descended from immigrants.
History of Gun Control as shared by the Black Chamber of Commerce Fifty years later, Latinos still fighting for civil rights by Victoria DeFrancesco Soto

HISPANIC LEADERS
Gabriel García Márquez, Nobel laureate writer, dies aged 87 Louis Zapata, First Mexican American Elected to Fort Worth Council, dies at 79 Dr. Salomon Hernandez Flores, Educator, died at 79 in 2007 LATINO PATRIOTS OC Sentinel, dedicated to Veterans
YouTube: Lita De Los Santos had 8 brothers serving in WWII Vietnam Wall, access names
YouTube: Welcome Home to Vietnam Veterans The Wall Borinqueneers Congressional Gold Medal Alliance Dutch Families have adopted American WWII Soldiers More Latinos Merit Medal of Honor by Rick Leal World War II POW Jose Holguin WW II Poster, Sent by Rosa Parachou World War II generation of Mexican-Americans made huge strides in civil rights movement
by Maggie Rivas-Rodriguez
1,892 US Veterans Are Thought to Have Committed Suicide Since January 1,
2014

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
Order of Granaderos y Damas de Galvez, April 5, 2014 My Days as a Colonist / Soldier with Don Juan de Onate – Part 4 by Louis F. Serna

SURNAMES
The Spencer Family of England, Their Spanish Connection by John D.
Inclan

DNA
Using DNA Tests to Find Birth Families by Kimberly Powell Who was Joaquin Murrieta? The Real Zorro

FAMILY HISTORY
FamilySearch Blog and resources

Happy Cinco de Mayo coming up!

My family's oral history includes an ancestor who came from France to fight in the French Intervention of Mexico, most likely the Batalla de Pueblo.

Who knows how I can find rosters of any type for French soldiers in the First and Second Interventions? I can only find rosters of Mexican soldiers for that time.

Thank you!
Natalie

I logged on and found that someone else is also logged on using my name. Has this happened to anyone else. The other person is on at this moment.

R A Ricci

My sister qualified for DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution ) through several lines. Last summer I discovered she qualified through her Spanish line.

Every American learns that the French saved Washington's army in the north. But Spain was also in the war against the British, and Spanish Louisiana struck from the south.

In about 1777 Spain recruited yeoman settler/militiamen and their families to settle some of the thinnest colonies. In my case these were from the Canaries and were called Los Islenos. Shiploads were dispatched to Louisiana, Puerto Rico, Texas, Argentina, and some other colonies. Recruits were given land, tools, guns, and a stipend. If you were over 5' 2" you got the premium package.

Galvez combined his home force, The Louisiana Regiment of Infantry, with Isleno militia, other colonial forces, regular troops from Cuba, and an impressive collection of shipping. He drove north from New Orleans pushing the British out of Baton Rouge and St. Louis. Moving east he defeated forces at Mobil then lay siege to the 9,000 man redcoat force at Pensacola, defeating them.

Further, Spanish ports were open to service American privateers, and the Spanish fleet forced the British navy to dilute their efforts in the Revolution.

So if one can prove up an ancestor who served with Galvez, DAR status might follow. This could also mean that a Mexican colonial soldier, speaking only Spanish, gets listed as an American patriot!

I'm guessing this site has been posted before but just case it hasn't:

Hemeroteca Nacional Digital de México
Page images and full-text search of nearly 600 titles ranging from 1722 to 1978. The URL is:
http://www.hndm.unam.mx/

I had to use google chrome to get it to work.

Nineteen kilometers from San Juan de los Lagos, where the second most frequented sanctuary in Mexico is located, archaeologists from the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), unravel a piece of pre Hispanic past which is today known as Los Altos de Jalisco, by the excavation of an ancient ceremonial center known as Teocaltitan.

At least 23 architectonic structures that were built 1500 years ago, between 450 and 900 AD, are distributed in the 20 acres that make up the highest part of the Teocaltitan hill.

To archaeologist Marisol Montejano Esquivias, director of the project, what makes this job in Teocaltitan the most gratifying is that it represents a preserved space in an archaeological context.”

“The interesting thing about Teocaltitan, apart from having Teotihuacan influence, is that it has elements that are very characteristic of the region such as the square architecture, sunken gardens in U-shape, pyramids with closed gardens, ball game courts, etc.”

The first drills and excavations that will be made in 2014 in Platform A of Teocaltitan, are focused on proving that these structures were made solely by men, and that underneath this they can find other archaeological substructures.

After two seasons there have been interventions on the west and north side of the ball court. It is from this area where most materials recovered from the project were found, such as: figurines, stone and turquoise beads that provided for the rituals that happened in this space.

Also, the finding of some copper and shell earrings in the northern part of the ball court indicated that this ceremonial center was used again during the Post Classic period (900 – 1200 AD). The earrings where found in the cranium of a presumably decapitated person.

Also, they have intervened in the sunken garden and the central pyramid that closes the site. In 2012, the center of the garden was excavated in an altar where they found secondary burials, bones that are not in an anatomic position meaning they where extracted from their original resting place and re-buried. This context also corresponds to the reoccupation of Teocaltitan in the Post Classic era.

With the restoration of the perimeter wall of the sunken garden and the ball court, the following year they will start opening the archaeological zone to the visitors.

http://artdaily.com/news/67098/Mexican-archaeologists-explore-ancient-c…

Just wanted to pass this along in case you have relatives in Guerrero:

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I believe the following is in reference to an inquiry by Brother Diego de Temino regarding the will of Alfonso Ruiz de Temiño y Dona Sancha Velasco. I would appreciate any help with a translation. Thank you all in advance.

Informacion hecha a peticion de fray Diego de Temino, religioso domico, de sur el y su hermano Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos, descendientes de la casa fuerte de Temino, y tales hijosdalgo notorios. Monasterio de Rodilla, 1561, Julio 10. Segue la escritura de fundacion de mayorazgo, otorgado por Alfonso Ruiz de Temiño y Dona Sancha Velasco su mujer, previa facultad del rey Enrique IV, dada en Segovia el 21 diciembre de 1465. Temino merindad de la Bureba, 1470. Octubre 12. Sigue una informacion de la ascendencia de Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos. Zacatecas, 1589. Junio, 10. Copia en una sola certificacion dada en Mexico el ano 1709. M-66, ff. 211 a 427.

Randy McNeal

Hi everyone,
My name is Sylvia Lottes and I live in Southern California. My father is 83 years old and only remembers his grandparents names. He never met them since my grandfather came to the US in the 1900s and wasn't able to travel back to Mexico until the early 1960s. My father is planning on visiting some of his cousins' families again this year when he goes to San Miguel El Alto (probably his last trip due to health reasons) but never remembers to ask anyone for family history.

I've been doing most of my research through ancestry.com for the last couple of years. I recently found FamilySearch and that has been so useful in looking at the actual records and finding grandparents' and parents' names.

In 2013, a young man reached out to me via ancestry.com because his grandfather was my dad's half-brother (shared same father). That side of the family did not know anything about the grandfather's parents so it's been pretty cool getting to know them and my father being able to tell them about their grandfather and great-grandfather. My newly found cousin is also trying to find out about our relatives.

I'm so glad I stumbled upon this site and hope to learn more about my ancestors, where they came from and their culture.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/slot33

Agradeceré cualquier datos acerca del nacimiento de un personaaje de San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Zacatecas...nacio en tre los años 1880 - 1890 al parecer Tepezala,Aguascalientes o Minillas Zacatecas.

Does anyone know when the parish of La Purisima Concepcion in Valparaiso, Zacatecas was formed?

If it was "stood up" from another parish, what would that parish be?

Thanks.

Michael Carrillo

Gabriel Serna b. abt 1750 ,higo de Florentino Serna y Antonia Ruis.
I have been searching among other things, for the Origin of Gabriel Serna & Catarina Frausto. In births she is called Catarina Frausto.
They had 5 children
Narciso b. abt 1800 m.to Sirica Duran y Clara Ortiz
Norberto b.abt 1805 m. to Ramona Cervantes
Ma. Guadalupe b.abt. 1806 m. to Honorato Esparza
Macedonio b.abt 1814 m. to Edwarda Macias
Ydelfonso b.abt 1820 m. to Nicodimes Duran.

Facts i have found..
1. In the Marriage of Ydelfonso she is called Catarina de Lara.
2. In the Confirmation of Ma. Guadalupe she is Catarina Lara.
3. In the Baptism of Macedonio the Godparents are listed as Esteban Frausto y Getrudis Lara.

Since they are named as Godparents to her child and she has been named Frausto and Lara; I am hoping to find that this Esteban Frausto & Getrudis Lara are her parents. Any information you have would be appreciated.

It appears to me that Leal was the civil judge. "El Juez de Estado Civil,
Jose Leal Cantu." Flores appeared before him to present his own child and
that of his wife, "que es hija legitima suya y de su esposa Virginia
Ovalle."

Hope this helps.
Beverly

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1. Translation Help (Stacy Latocha Newelt)
2. Re: Translation Help (Stacy Latocha Newelt)

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:32:40 -0400
From: Stacy Latocha Newelt
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Translation Help
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I was hoping someone could help me make sense of this.

Why would Jose Leal Cantis appear with Guadlupe Flores to present someone
else's child?

I just learned that my grandmother's US birth certificate was false and I am
trying to locate her correct birth record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22296-57800-55?cc=1916233…
FDR-5ZS:1025561601,1025602701

I just want to make sure I am not reading this wrong.

Thanks so much for your help.

Stacy
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:33:17 -0400
From: Stacy Latocha Newelt
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Translation Help
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Sorry, I am asking about acta numero 1550.
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Stacy Latocha Newelt
wrote:

> I was hoping someone could help me make sense of this.
>
> Why would Jose Leal Cantis appear with Guadlupe Flores to present
> someone else's child?
>
> I just learned that my grandmother's US birth certificate was false
> and I am trying to locate her correct birth record.
>
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22296-57800-55?cc=191623
> 3&wc=MFDR-5ZS:1025561601,1025602701
>
> I just want to make sure I am not reading this wrong.
>
> Thanks so much for your help.
>
> Stacy
>

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Someone had mentioned they were researching the Amaya's in Autlan--but I can't locate the post. In case anyone is interest: I have Bernarda Amaya (also spelled Amaia or Amalla) married to Juan Rosales-Mexia 14 oct, 1728 in Autlan. He died 24 Aug, 1737 in Ejutla and the entry mentions he was the owner of the Hacienda de El Limon. Their children were:

Maria Gertrudis who married Juan Francisco Garcia de Alba on 19 Feb., 1746 in Ejutla.Juan Francisco's parents were Manuel Garcia de Alba and Nicolasa Santa Ana.

Juan Antonio who married Anna Frafaela Comenares on 17 June, 1762 in Autlan

Juan Vicente who married Maria Josefa Cardenas on 7 Jan, 1767 in Ejutla.

Bernarda Amaya married Pedro Castill on 7 July, 1738 in Ejutla
Bernarda died 14 Jan. 1749 in Ejutla; aparently the result of an accident.

I suspect the parents of Bernarda Amaya may have been either:
Agustin Amaya and Nicolasa Caceres or Miguel Amaya and Elvira Caceres; but I haven't been able to prove anything and my hunch is based on the names of the padrinos of baptisms of the children. Deedra Corona

Does anyone have any information on Juan de Alba and Antonia Marin? I think Juan de Alba and Antonia Marin would've married around 1740-1750. They are the parents of my 7th Great Grandfather Cipriano de Alba:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12044-36070-59?cc=1502404&…

He married my 7th Great Grandmother Paula Garcia y Alonso in Encarnacion de Diaz on 20 Jan 1779:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18564-60752-12?cc=1874591&wc…

Any information that anyone might have on Juan de Alba and Antonia Marin would be great.

Thanks,

Christopher de Cuellar

I'm unsure about who potentially may be my 4th and 5th Grandfather.

My third Grandfather Jose Roque Jacinto Gallegos was born in Las Moras, Calvillo, Aguascalientes on 16 Aug 1802. He married Maria Dionicia De Jesus Ybarra on 21 February 1821 in Calvillo, Aguascalientes. The baptism for Jose Roque Jacinto Gallegos shows the name of his parents as Miguel Gallegos y Maria Gertrudis Gonzales and his paternal grandparents as Miguel Gallegos y Maria Josefa Nieto (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11118-61099-56?cc=1410092&…)

I have done some additional research, but I'm not sure I have the right information.

So far, for my 4th Grandfather, I found a Miguel Rafael Gallegos born in El Estaño, Guanajuato, Mexico, on 14 February 1752 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20573-5471-27?cc=1860831&…). I found a record that shows that he married Maria Gertrudis Gonzales in Teocaltiche, Jalisco on 24 Feb 1774; however, I couldn't find the actual microfilm.

For my 5th Grandfather, I found a Miguel Dionicio Gallegos born in La Quemada, San Felipe, Guanajuato, Mexico on 17 Mar 1724 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20573-5677-90?cc=1860831&…). I found a record that shows that he married a Josefa Gertrudis (no last name included) in San Felipe, Guanajuato, Mexico on 12 January 1744 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20424-18348-21?cc=1860831…)

I would appreciate any input to help me verify the info about my 4th and 5th Grandparents.

Thanks in Advance,

Miguel Gallegos

My 4th great grandparents' marriage record:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18724-61739-21?cc=1874591&wc…

Juaquin Choperena y Victoriana Martinez were married on 16Sept1801.
I believe Juaquin was born in Navarra, Spain to Pedro Jose Choperena y Maria Bautista Yndart about 1771.

However, I'm having trouble figuring out the birthplace and parents of Victoriana.
Was she born in Spain or Juanacati? Was her father a 16-year old neighbor?

I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Roy

Does anyone know of any books, websites, passenger ship records regarding Italians immigrating to Mexico say during the late 1500's to early 1800's? I've checked out the Archivos Espanoles En Red website: http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp to see if I could find my Italian ancestors who settled in Mexico, via Spain, but have come up with a big zero. I have a copy of the book " La Emigracion Castellana y Leonesa al Nuevo Mundo 1517-1700" by Maria del Carmen Martinez Martinez and nothing in there as well.

The surnames involved are Lomellin, Lomelli (Carlos Lomellini about 1600, children and grandchildren in Nochistlan, Zacatecas) and Durazzo around Hermosillo, San Miguel de Horcasitas, Sonora in the late 1700's to early 1800's.

Thanks
Rose
Fresno, CA