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Hola Armando,
Thanks for the feedback. Indeed the calculations I made are almost identical since the Mediterranean : North European proportions in my samples are very similar to the ones form the modern Spanish_D tables. I find this very interesting, almost as if the second set of results was confirming the first one. I agree that in the example I gave the Southwest Asian, West Asian and South Asian percentiles need to be added to my Spanish total (either all or just part of them).
I wish I could compare my future Geno2.0 results to the FamilyFinder ones, but it won't be so easy since I bought Geno2.0 for myself (given my curiosity on my own ethnic percentiles and my idea of a large database of local populations from the Genographic project) and the FamilyFinder tests for samples from my parents (in order to take advantage of the distant family matching of FamilytreeDNA). Unfortunately I can not afford buying every test for everyone I would like to test in my family.
Thanks again
Hola Victoriano,
Your Mediterranean and North_European are almost exactly 70% of the Spanish_D. (The D stands for Dodecad). So I took 70% of everything else that Spanish_D has and put it in your Spanish percentage and subtracted that amount from the different Asian and African percentages. Then I placed the remaining amounts into your Amerindian and African percentages. You come out 71.24% Spanish, 27.81 Amerindian, and 0.64 African. You have a lot more Spanish than most Mexicans but about the same as most Alteños that show all or most of their ancestors to be españoles.
The following doesn't align perfectly so you have to count the headers and the columns to be sure you are on the correct group when looking at the percentages.
Victoriano Spanish_D Spanish Amerindian African
Siberian 0.02 0.00 0.00 0.02 0.00
Amerindian 20.22 0.00 0.00 20.22 0.00
West_African 1.33 0.90 0.63 0.00 0.43
Palaeo_African 0.21 0.10 0.07 0.00 0.11
Southwest_Asian 8.10 5.60 3.92 4.18 0.00
East_Asian 0.00
Hi Armando,
Thanks for the analysis. I also used the Spanish_D data for the calculations and came up with the following results:
When doing the math based on North European percentile: 69.77% Spanish, 21.37% Amerindian, 7.87% Asian and 0.73% African.
When doing the math based on Mediterranean percentile: 70.21% Spanish, 21.37% Amerindian, 7.82% Asian and 0.76% African.
I see you add all the Asian populations when calculating Amerindian %, but I’m not sure if that’s quite right. I agree if you add the East Asian, Siberian and Arctic (at least the Asian and American parts), but not so much when adding the Southwest Asian, East Asian and South Asian percentiles. I don’t know how are the Dodecad people mapping those regions, but at least according to Wikipedia Southwest Asia and Western Asia are the same as the Middle East (Arabic peninsula, Israel and Palestine, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, etc.) while South Asia includes mainly India and Pakistan (other neighbouring countries may or not be
Hola Victoriano,
Your two calculations aren’t very different from each other. They are almost identical.
I hope the following gives some insight on why I was wrong on the Asian components.
If you look at the spreadsheet all of the Iberian groups, except Basques, have Southwest Asian. That includes the Portuguese. Canarias and Murcia have a tiny amount of East Asian, all other Iberians have none. All Iberians including Basques have West Asian. All Iberians except for those from Andalucía (from the 1,000 Genomes project) have South Asian. Therefore, at least a portion of Southwest Asian, West Asian and South Asian need to be added to your Spanish total if not all of it. You don’t have East Asian and neither do most Iberians. The rest was hard for me to tell. We know that our Amerindian ancestors came from Siberia and they must have had some Asian components and probably some of the other components such as Arctic and Siberian, but once I look at the Maya population from Li et al. (HGDP)
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