Indexed Informacion Matrimonial for Nochistlan

Hi Groupe, so I started indexing the informacion matrimonial for Nochistlan I did my best to spell the names correctly, and sorry if I did a mistake this is my first time indexing.One more thing I skipped several documents due to the fact that I can not read them at all or I just decided to skip them in general sorry about that but I will complete the indexing of each document in the informacio matrimonial of Nochistlan.

1667-1707
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Please Help find Bapt. "Serapio Manriquez"

Re: Familia Manriquez

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By gaby7 - Posted on 25 March 2013

Hi Everybody,

My Name is Geri Shuster(Manriquez) and I have been a member for some time. I have watched, listened to comments, questions. I am a little intimidated you are so good at this, but am ready to ask for help from those of you on this site that are so very generous with your time.
I know that my Grandfather was SERAPIO MANRIQUEZ (from my dad's Juan B.'s birth record) Serapio was they say, b:14 Nov 1896, Lerdo, Durango, Mexico? I found this on his death record 13 Feb 1932 Clemenceau, Yavapai Co, Arizona) However, I can not find any information about him in Mexico, only records after he came to the U.S.(border crossing in 1916). My grandmother, his wife, was Francisca Badillo (Vadillo on her death record) which was filled out in the presence of her Mom and Dad(Francisco Vadillo and Cruz Alvarez). I am not able to find her birth, baptism, or their marriage records. I suspect that maybe their names may be different? I have talked with living relatives and they were not known by any other names that they are aware of. (I have tried to add-on Maria and Jose) Help!

I have gone back all the way to Spain on the Manriquez tree, however can we be sure that it is the right tree without verification of birth record or something that ties us to that line without proof?

Juan B. Manriquez b: 28 Oct 1922 Clemenceau,Yavapai,Arizona(my father)
Spouse: Ernestina Macmoran/
SERAPIO MANRIQUEZ b: 14 Nov 1896 Lerdo, Durango, Mexico
Spouse: FRANCISCA VADILLO/
Epifanio Manriquez b: 11 Apr 1856 Asientos, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Spouse: Reynalda Romo/
Agaton Manriquez b: 11 Jan 1825 Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Spouse: Porfiria Martinez/
Petronilo(Teofilo)Manriquez b: 7 Jun 1812 Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Spouse: Maria Faustina de luz Orozco/
Ynocencio Manriquez b:7 Dec 1759 Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Spouse: Dionicia Aguilar/
Cipriano Manriquez b:11 Oct 1722 Leon, Guanajuato, Mexico
Spouse: Josefa Guyerma Rodriquez/
Matheo Manriquez b:15 Aug 1688 San Francisco, Acambaro, Guanajuato, Mexico
Spouse: Beatris Ramos/
Pedro Manrique b: 7 Apr 1652 San Facundo, Medina del Campo, Valladolid, Spain
Spouse: Maria de la Crus/
Lucas Manrique b: 1 Nov 1625 Quintanilla de Triqueros, Valladolid, Spain
Spouse: Maria Benita/
Alonso Manrique b: 1 Jun 1584 Quintanilla de Triqueros, Valladolid, Spain
Spouse: Maria Carrasco/
Alonso Manrique b: 26 Apr 1559 Valladolid, Spain
Spouse: Maria Alonso/
unknown Manique b: abt 1523
Spouse: Beatriz de Mendoca/
This is a far as I have gone (my direct-line, there may be some mistakes, but I tried to verify all the records by more than one source, if possible. Hope you can help me verify my Grandfather Serapio's baptism or marriage. I THANK you all for you considerations.
Geri {Gaby7}
Note: There is a record of Manuel Manriquez and Ma. Isabel Gomez having a child Je. Serapio Manriquez on 14 Nov 1895. Serapio had an older brother Manuel born in 1880 which would make him 15 when this child was born???

Santiago Pedroza

Hi everyone, For those of you who have Santiago Pedroza married to Maria de la Cruz Martin del Campo in there tree and do not know when he died.

Jalostotitlan
Bautismos 1698-1701, 1701-1707, 1694-1702
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Lisa

La Vieja del Concilio (La Leyenda de Ana Gonzalez Florida II)

AKA La llorona de Los Altos.

La titulada “La Vieja del Concilio” que narra la desventura de una hermosa
mujer española muy rica (que se cree fue doña Ana González Florida quien
vivió en el siglo XVII); quien fue atacada por un leoncillo que le desfiguró
el rostro, pasando la desdichada el resto de sus días con la cara cubierta;
se convirtió entonces en una mujer muy cruel que se dedicó a asaltar
diligencias y arrieros, en unión de su banda; reuniendo una gran fortuna.
Agrega la leyenda que, después de fallecida, su espíritu vagó y siguió con
sus fechorías, auxiliada por los animales feroces que la obedecían.

There are people that say that they have seen her wandering the old dirt
roads (caminos reales) where she used to assault her victims. Some old
people used to say that when she appeared, many thought she was the Llorona,
but since they never heard her cry, they knew it was La Vieja del Concilio,
so they ran even faster.

I have a book that narrates the whole legend, but it’s going to take me a
while to write it all down.

I’ll write again when I finish doing it.

Saludos,

Rick

Para don Guillermo Tovar de Teresa y Enrique Agraz: los Velasco y Zúñiga de Tecolotlán

Estimados don Guillermo Tovar de Teresa y Enrique Agraz,

Aún no he tenido el placer de intercambiar mensajes con ustedes. Anoche leí con mucho interés el tema del foro que ustedes y otros miembros del foro mantuvieron sobre los Velasco y Temiño que ocurrió a mediados de 2009, hace ya casi cuatro años. Le dirijo a ustedes este mensaje, pues creo puedan tener respuestas específicas a mis preguntas.
Sé lo importante que es poder probar las teorías por medio de documentos históricos. Es por eso mismo que me dirijo a ustedes para hacer un número de preguntas sobre los Velasco y Zúñiga y los Gómez-García de Tecolotlán durante el siglo XVII. Hasta donde he podido corroborar por medio de documentos en familysearch.com, desciendo de varias parejas de dichas familias, pero no he podido unir diferentes partes del rompecabezas.

Aquí van las preguntas:
1)Thomazina de Velasco, quien casó con Beltrán de la Cueva (a veces Fernández de la Cueva), está emparentada con María de Velasco y Zúñiga? Por las fechas a mi me parece muy posible que sean hermanas. Yo desciendo de Juan de la Cueva, hijo de Beltrán de la Cueva y de Thomazina de Velasco.
2)He visto que a María de Velasco y Zúñiga la mencionan como hija de Francisco de Velasco y Temiño y de Gerónima de la Cueva. Me podrían decir con qué documento lo probaron?
3)A Pedro Gómez-García quien casó con María de Contreras he visto que lo han mencionado como hijo de Juan Gómez-García y de María de Velasco y Zúñiga (arriba mencionada). Mi pregunta una vez más es: con qué documento lo probaron? Ya busqué en las imágenes de familysearch.com de Tecolotlán entre 1616 y 1730 en los bautizos, matrimonios y defunciones pero no he encontrado ninguno que lo pruebe. Me gustarí poder conectar esa línea, pero no peudo por no tener documentación suficiente.
4)Enrique, tú mencionaste que Juan Gómez-García y de María de Velasco y Zúñiga tuvieron a una hija que se llamó Luisa Gómez, quien casó con Juan de Guzmán. Tienes algún documento que lo diga textualmente?
Yo desciendo doblemente de Juan de Guzmán y de Luisa Gómez por medio de dos de sus hijos. La línea de su hijo Juan Antonio de Guzmán Gómez (1692-1748) es la que más me interesa por ahora. Yo ya había llegado a pensar que ésta Luisa Gómez (sin el segundo apellido compuesto) era de los Gómez-García, pues varios de ellos fueron padrinos para los hijos de Juan y de Luisa. Por la frecuencia, pensaba yo que debía ser hija o de Juan Gómez-García o de Pedro Gómez-García. Sin embargo en uno de los bautizos la esposa de Juan de Guzmán aparece como Luisa de Velasco, lo que me hace pensar que efectivamente era hija de Juan Gómez-Garcíay de María de Velasco y Zúñiga. Pero como afirmé antes, sé lo importante que es probar algo con un documento, así que hasta que yo vea un documento que dice que Luisa Gómez es hija de _________ no voy a poder conectarla con la rama.

Hasta donde yo sepa que nadie ha seguido línea de los hijos de Juan de Guzmán y de Luisa Gómez hasta nuestros días. Yo lo he hecho ya en los últimos meses. Los hijos de dicho matrimonio(que he encontrado) fueron los siguientes:
1. Juan de Guzmán, II (1683-?), bautizado el 30 de mayo de 1683. Él casó con Josepha Michel y Escobar, hija de Tomás Michel Ordoñez y de Agustina de Escobar. También desciendo de Tomás y de Agustina por medio de su hijo Francisco Michel y Escobar (1694-?)
2. Antonia de Guzmán Gómez (ca. 1685-1758) casó con Cristóbal de Araiza y Medina (ca.1681-1752) el 29 de agosto de 1701 en Tecolotlán. Yo desciendo de ellos por medio de su hijo Agustín de Araiza y Guzmán. Tuvieron otros ocho hijos.
3. Joseph de Guzmán Gómez, bautizado el 28 de abril de 1689, casó con Petrona de Monzalbe el 7 de mayo de 1710 en Tecolotlán.
4.Álvaro de Guzmán Gómez, bautizado el 7 mayo de 1691
5. Juan Antonio de Guzmán, bautizado el 26 de junio de 1692 casó con María Antonia de Zambrano el 8 de Febrero de 1723 en Tuxcacuesco, Jal. De ellos desciendo por medio de su hijo Sebastián de Guzmán.

Agradezco cualquier información que ustedes (u otros miembros del foro) puedan darme.

Con un cordial saludo,
Sergio S. Salés

E1b1b1 haplogroup

anyone in the group have this haplogroup? If so there is a gentleman
that has some info to share. Let me know.

joseph

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Tololotlán

My great-great-great grandfather, José Lorenzo de Jesús Chavez, christened on the twentieth of August, 1809 was listed "Indio de Tolotlán" on his birth record. I would like to know what type of Indio he was, and what, if any, information is available about their culture, history, ect...

Another specific question: are there any other records available, specifically for this culture? If so, where can I access them?
Thanks for the help!

Mas de Villegas

En Español:

Hola Gina:

Muchas Gracias por escribirme, antes que nada dime como te enterste
de mi y de mi busqueda por el apellido de mi varonia, Los Villegas, dime
tambien que edad tienesy donde y aque te dedicas.

Mira, desgraciadamente el apellido Villegas que mas me interesa es en
la linea que menos he avanzado porque desgraciadamente, como he visto en
mis investigaciones genealogicas,en tiempos pasados era mas evidente la
diferiencia de castas o niveles sociales ademas de las diferencias en la
posicion economica, por estas razones no he podido avanzar facilmente
en la genealogia de los Villegas, ya que avanzando hacia atras en el tiempo
"mis Villegas" de la region de los Altos de Jalisco, eran catalogados en las
diversas actas de matrimonio y bautizo como "Indios Laborios", casta
considerada "inferior" por ser considerados los indios naturales de la region
casi como "esclavos" y de poder economico paurerrimo o pobres, por lo que
los clerigos encargados suministraban los sacramentos de mala gana, ya
que no recibian lo que ellos consideraban suficiente remuneracion economica
por sus servicios y solo les suministraban dichos sacramentos "por orden" de
sus superiores pero de mala gana, pero se encargaban de dejar plasmado su
mal caracter por ese motivo, escribiendo en los libros los menos datos posibles
de esos "insignificantes (casi animales)" "Indios Laborios, y por eso
para evitar
la fatiga y no entretenerse en gastar su valioso tiempo en poner detalles de su
genealogia, solo ponian cuando mucho el nombre del bautizado, y los nombres
de pila de sus padres, algunas veces como un "supremo" favor ponian el apellido
del padre, pero en la seccion de los nombres de los abuelos, solo se limitaban
a poner "Abuelos no conocidos" y a veces para recalcar su "coraje o ira" porque
estos desprteciables "indios laborios" no les daban dinero, ponian al
final de las
actas o fes de bautismo o matrimonio las leyenda "Se Bautizo de Limosna" o
se "Caso de limosna", para dejar eso si, la evidencia de que estos
"indios laborios"
eran muy pobres.

En fin por las anteriores razones, cuando alguna familia, como la
mia en el caso
de los Villegas, vienen de castas inferiores y pobres, los sacerdotes,
las repudiaban
y no anotaban muchos datos de su genealogia y origen, port lo que se vuelve muy
dificil seguir la pista hacia atras en el tiempo, por lo cual se me ha
hecho muy dificil
segir mi genealogia de los Villegas, por la fe de bautismo de mi
tatarabuelo Apolonio
Villegas,(esta fe se encuentra en San Juan de los Lagos, Jal, en el
libro de Bautismos
Numero 16, en la pagina 107 ftrente, es el acta numero 869, fue
bautizado el dia 16
de Febrero de 1799) se que sus padres fueron Manuel Villegas y Miguela Ramirez y
sus abuelos paternos fueron Juan Trinidad Villegas y Ma. Gertrudis
Melendez, por lo
que mi siguiennte paso es encontrar la fe de matrimonio de mis 5tos
abuelos Manuel
Villegas y Miguela Ramirez o de mis 6tos. abuelos Juan Trinidad Villegas y Ma.
Gertrudis Melendez, el matrimonio de mis 5tos. abuelos debe estar entre los años
1780 a 1797, ya busque en San Juan de los Lagos y al parecer no aparerce este
matrimonio aunque al parecer hay huecos de inexistencia de documentos,
pero ahora
debo extender mi busqueda por todas las iglesias de los altos de
Jalisco, al parecer
hay existencia de Villegas en el municipio de Acatic y en Cuquio que
tambien son descritos como "Indios Laborios", por lo que creo que en
esos municipios seguire
mi busqueda.

Mira Mi Genealogia de Villegas en los Altos de Jalisco es asi:

1a. generacion: Yo-Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez.
2a.Generacion:Mis Padres: Tomas Villegas y Maria Elena Gomez Castellanos.
3a. Generacion: AbuelosPaternos: Francisco Villegas y Mucia Gtz. Ramirez.
4a.Generacion: Bisabuelos: Tomas Villegas y Paula Navarro Franco.
5a. Generacion: Tatarabuelos: Apolonio Villegas y Ma. Fermina Flores Martin.
6a. Generacion: 5tos.Abuelos: Manuel Villegas y Miguela Ramirez Muñoz.
7a. Generacion: 6tos.Abuelos: Juan Trinidad Villegas y
Ma.Gertrudis Melendez.

Tengo en mis investigaciones a un Silverio Villegas, pero no creo
que sea tu abuelo
su genealogia es la siguiente:

1a. Gen: Silverio Villegas Limon (*20-Jun-1927 en Tepa) caso con
Victorina Martin Gomez
ya difunta el 13-Dic-1952 en Tepa.
2a.Gen: Sus Padres: J.Ma.Nicanor Villegas (*10-Ene-1901 en Tepa,
+10-Feb-1993)
caso con Ma.Jesus Limon Vazquez el 23-Nov-1921 en Tepa.
3a.Gen: Abuelos: Donaciano Villegas (*06-Sep-1865 en Tepa) caso 2
veces la 1a. con
Cristina Mora Becerra y la 2a. con Isidora Gutierrez Martin.
4a.Gen: Bisabuelos: Tereso Villegas caso con Magdalena Aguilar Franco.
5a.Gen: Tatarabuelos: Jose Francisco Villegas que caso con Victoria Rodriguez
Cañedo el 25-Nov-1818 en Tepa.
6a.Gen: Manuel Villegas y Miguela Ramirez.
7a.Gen: Juan Trinidad Villegas y Ma.Gertrudis Melendez.

Podrias Mandarme tu arbol genealogico lo mas completo posible
para ver alguna
relacion con los Villegas que he investigado hasta hoy.

Estoy Enviando copia de este e-mail a los grupos de genealogistas a los que
estoy suscrito, para su informe y su posible ayuda en mi
investigacion, te sugiero
que te suscribas con estos grandes investigadores para compartir experiencias,
los grupos son: Nuestros Ranchos y Genealogia Mexico.

Vicente Carlos Servantes?

Does anyone have Vicente Carlos Servantes in their tree?

I estimate his birth circa 1735-45 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas.
I'm about a 1/4 of the way through the Baptism records for this period.
His mother was Juana Carlos based on his marriage record to Maria Phelipa de Herrera on 31Aug1756 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman. His father's name was not recorded on his marriage record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZXT-PVW

I have found 4 daughters - Rita, Fr.Xaviera,Laurena Rosalia, Ysabel...one, possibly two sons - Diego Josef and/or Diego Carlos.

On 06Apr1761 he was a witness at the marriage of my 4th GGF
Marcelino de los Santos Herrera y Agustina Dorotea Sanchez.

He is my only clue to my unknown 3rd Great Grandfather.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Saludos,
Roy

Medina Surname

Although I don't have the Medina surname in my tree, I have also been curious about it because the name is common in northwestern Durango. I have various books about northern Mexico in the 1600/1700's, and information about early settlers with that surname has never turned up.With the Inquisition being a powerful institution in Mexico in the 1600-1700's, it seems a name like Medina would have aroused suspicion of a non-Christian background. Maybe a search on the Pares website will turn up some clues.

Medina Origin

Hello Nuestros Ranchos members, I have a general question. I want to know where the Medina family comes from. I have noticed, after researching my Medina family, that in Zacatecas there is a very high population of people with that last name. I have gone through several records for Rio Grande Zacatecas where my family is from and other locations and after spending a small amount of time flipping through the records I found a high volume of people with that last name.

General Digest, Vol 87, Issue 1

Hello,

My great-grandfather was Emigdio Medina. In the 1880's he resided in El
Paso del Norte and antagonized the USA in the famous Cutting Case. He did
marry a woman in the Orendain familiy beforehand, but I think they met in
California, USA.

Laurel Anne Hill

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General Digest, Vol 87, Issue 2

Hi Fellow Nuestro Ranchos Familia, Since we are on the Surname Origin where does the Acevedo, Valdovinos, Guerrero, Barragan, Espinoza, Maciel/Masiel  come from.  Any good sights that are true?

With Regards, 
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Well, the name originally is Arabic.  I found one of many references but
chose this one to peruse--just a start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina

Sincerely, Marge Vallazza

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> with that last name.  I have gone through several records for Rio Grande
> Zacatecas where my family is from and other locations and after spending a
> small amount of time flipping through the records I found a high volume of
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Pedro Sanchez de Porras Padron de Sevilla 1576

Buscando a los Sanchez-Castellanos en Sevilla encontre a Pedro Sanchez de Porras que era habitante de Sevilla en aquellos años, los Sanchez de Porras los he visto por Cuquio, Jalisco pero he visto los registros mas antiguos en la ciudad de Mexico, por si le sirve a alguien les envio el link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19452-62552-55?cc=2015365&wc…

familia Castaneda Flores

I am stuck on my great great grandfather Manuel Castaneda. My great grandfather's birth record from Moyahua, Zacatecas (Hiliario de Jesus Castaneda) lists Rafael Castaneda and Simona Flores as paternal grandparents but I have not been able to find their birth or marriage records or for Hilario's father, Manuel Castaneda. I do know that Manuel Castaneda was married to Secundina Yniguez, but do not know when or where. I have found one record that leads me to believe they may have come from Juchipila, but I can't be certain this is correct. Is anyone else out there looking into these names???

Parents of Maria de la Merced Tiscareno

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for information on the parents of my 7th Great Grandmother Maria de la Merced Tiscareno. I'm not sure where or when Maria was born, but she married my 7th Great Grandfather Raphael Antonio de Cuellar on 12 May 1777 in Aguascalientes, so she was probably born around 1760. On the marriage certificate her parents are listed as Juan Joseph de Tiscareno and Maria Theresa de Altuna. They would've probably been born in the 1730s in the Aguascalientes area. I'm unable to find any information on them other than a baptism of one of their children. Any information on Juan Joseph de Tiscareno and Maria Theresa de Altuna or their parents would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks everyone.

Christopher de Cuellar

Primary source on Francisca Gauadi (Gabay)

Hello

I was going through baptisms for 1616 to 1662,Sagrario Aguascalientes AG, and I came across a reference to Francisca Gauadi as the madrina for a child born to Maria Siordia and Luis de Medina. The padrino is named as Martin Ruiz de Esparza "su hijo". They are both described as "vecinos de esta villa" The date is 3 Aug 1617 and I was wondering if anyone has an earlier reference to Francisca Gabay placing her in Aguascalientes.

Here is the link to the image:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-51929-91?cc=1502404&…

Regards
Denise Fastrup

Juan De Carbajal & Jacinta De Oliva

Hi there,

I was wondering if by any chance someone might have some info on these ancestors of mine?I descend from their daughter Geronima Carbajal who married Nicolas De Sepulveda in Nochistlan Zac Oct 17 1660.From what I have they were from Mexticacan Jalisco.They had around 5 offspring Juan,Isabel,Anna,Hernando,and Nicolas.Additional info will be so helpful thank you.

Research Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4

I could see the link 

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   1. Would someone like to have a go at reading a word in this
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Date: Wed,  3 Apr 2013 22:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Would someone like to have a go at reading
a word in this docume
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All I could make out were the first four letters (Tete.....). I couldn't be sure about the others. I even compared the word with the Cubas book, but I didn't see anything promising.  Good luck!

Rosalinda

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Francisco Romo child of Juan Romo and Maria Gabai

Hello

I came across an indexed record of birth for a Francisco Romo,espl., son of Jn Romo and Maria Gabai. When I went to the record, I saw that the madrina was Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. I think that Maria Gabai was her daughter. As the Gedcom turned up no hits for a Francisco Romo born in 1659, I thought I would post it here, and ask the forum if Maria Tiscarino de Molina has in other documents been referred to as Maria Gabai.

Here is the link:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-52310-14?cc=1502404&…

it's the last entry on the right hand page.

Here is the citation:

Mexico, Aguascalientes, Catholic Church Records, 1620-1962
Aguascalientes
Asunción de María
Bautismos 1616-1662
Image of 334
GS film number 299421

Would someone like to have a go at reading a word in this document?

I can read all but the name of the town in this document; can someone fill in the missing word? "... Domingo Gerrero [Guerrero] español originario, y vesino de la siudad de __?__ del Reino de la Nueva España ...".

I should be most grateful. I'm not going to prejudice anyone by posting my guess as to what this name might be.

Best wishes,
Lawrence Bouett
Orinda, CA

Serna, Rodrigues, Carrillo - Calvillo,Ags. y Villa del Refugio, Zac. 1800 to 1880

4000 people in my Database yet I cant place this persons family.

I am seeking information on Teodoro Serna, his marriage to Cecilia Rodrigues, and any children besides the daughter I have found.

Angela Serna is the daughter of Teodoro Serna y Cecilia Rodrigues.

Angela Serna married Desiderio Carrillo

Angela Serna and Desiderio Carrillo had 6 children born in the Ranchos around Calvillo. La Joya, Animas, La Presa,y La Barranca.

Micalea Carrillo, b. Sept 29 1863
Bonifacia Carrillo, b. June 4 1866
Pedro Carrillo, b. July 1, 1868
Ricardo Carrillo, b. Apr 5 1871
Vicente Carrillo b. Apr. 12 1874
Carlos Carrillo b. Nov. 4 1878

Castas

Hello all:
I have been reading the Church Records from Guerrero, Coahuila and came across a term I have not seen before and for which I do not know the colloquial meaning. I can't seem to find a definition online.
The baptism records are from late 1780s to 1820. The term is "havidos por españoles." It is found in several records and is used in reference to the racial status of parents. I assumed it was supposed to be "habidos por Españoles," literally "had by Spaniards," but I still don't get it in this context. Maybe a term indicating Spanish (European) descent of indeterminate nature? I've asked a couple of people I know, but nobody can tell me what is meant in this usage. Can anybody shed some light on the terminology for me?
Thanks, all
-Scott

Catarina Ponce de Leon

Hi Members, Can someone please read over a Dispensa for me. Really having a hard time with the writing. It is for Miguel Nunez and Catarina Ponce de Leon. 1639-1712 #121 film #167981 Posted March 23. I would really appreciate it. Have a nice Easter.

Thanks a bunch

Lisa