Zacoalco de Torres, Jalisco & Cervantes

Hello,

Is anyone researching in Zacoalco de Torres, Jalisco, Mexico or on the Cervantes Surname?

Saludos,
Angel R. Cervantes
angelrcervantes@yahoo.com

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Yes, my husband's great-grandmother was a Cervantes from Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: angelrcervantes@yahoo.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:56 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Zacoalco de Torres, Jalisco & Cervantes

Hello,

Is anyone researching in Zacoalco de Torres, Jalisco, Mexico or on the Cervantes Surname?

Saludos,
Angel R. Cervantes
angelrcervantes@yahoo.com

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Dear Angel:
I have a Cervantes line in Jalisco I have done a little work on.

Maureen Bejar

Who we are

I’ve been ready the comments about Spanish and English language. This is me…..I know both languages very well I have kids and my kids know both languages very well also.

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by David Serna
I have to admit I hold some jealosy in that here in el norte, to see east Indian women in tradintional sari dress. They are proud of their heritage and still are trying to maintain their traditions. Perhaps its because for many they are a generation of new arrivals , and it may be in another generation, they will not be able to keep up the traditions.

Not that I want to go to the Mall in my sombrero, the climate here in the midwest gives us a 3 month summer. yet So much mexican culture has been set aside to fit in. I have to look hard to find a posada here, not as may quincineras, as before.. Perhaps its my perspective as I age ... or suppose this happens in each genreation and more so in a new country.
Please turn down the Reggeaton when you pull in my driveway ..

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Hi David, I think its just when people arrive in the US, they want to Americanize, the dominant culture, eventhough the southwest and western US has very Spanish influence, the US was not prepared for the cession of Spain's and Mexico's territyorty hence why there are two leading cultures. A friend a long time ago thought Mexico was all about, "getting drunk, serapes, sombreros, tequila..etc." I have noticed times have changed, you dont find that many people wearing Serapes even in Mexico. I told him MExico is much complicated...just like any other country youll find different ethnic groups that have different traditions and customs. I quote my grandfather "If it's not made in Jalisco, it's not tequila" I remember when I lived in Jalisco for 8 months I used to wear the traditional clothes youll find, "Boots, sombrero. slacks.." I was only 7 or 8 -Daniel

> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mooskies4@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:34:14 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] cultural change
>
> by David Serna
> I have to admit I hold some jealosy in that here in el norte, to see east Indian women in tradintional sari dress. They are proud of their heritage and still are trying to maintain their traditions. Perhaps its because for many they are a generation of new arrivals , and it may be in another generation, they will not be able to keep up the traditions.
>
> Not that I want to go to the Mall in my sombrero, the climate here in the midwest gives us a 3 month summer. yet So much mexican culture has been set aside to fit in. I have to look hard to find a posada here, not as may quincineras, as before.. Perhaps its my perspective as I age ... or suppose this happens in each genreation and more so in a new country.
> Please turn down the Reggeaton when you pull in my driveway ..

Salvador Cabral

Attention NuestrosRanchos primos.

Salvador Cabral would like to become a member. What process does he need to use to join our group.

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Jose:

Salvador, igual que cualquier persona con ancestors de la region donde nos enfocamos, es eligible para ser miembro. Ya solicito una cuenta, ya nos envio su arbor representativo y ya es miembo. Acabo de ver que ya ha comenzado a contribuir. Gracias por invitarlo ya que es un genealogo muy reconocido y se que sera un contribuyente muy valioso para la organizacion.

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My grandmother was kidnapped in Mexico during a Revolution. She was about 17.
I recently read an email from Nuestros Ranchos and someone mentioned a similar story but I must have deleted it. If anyone has any information as to the kidnapping's, please re-post.
Thank You,
Del

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Not sure if its mine but on my mother's family hacienda when the Villistas came and took control they tried to kidnap my great grandmother she is still alive at 91, Sara del Camino y Soto. She was one of the most beautiful women or (donacella) on the hacienda, my grandfather (her nephew--crazy family intermarriage) said his father (her cousin) told him once she was a beautiful blonde, blue eyed young lady which was very desirable traits for a lot of men. -Daniel Camino

> To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: deljmar99@webtv.net
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:20:44 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Kidnapping's
>
> My grandmother was kidnapped in Mexico during a Revolution. She was about 17.
> I recently read an email from Nuestros Ranchos and someone mentioned a similar story but I must have deleted it. If anyone has any information as to the kidnapping's, please re-post.
> Thank You,
> Del

Who we are, etc.,etc.

I have read the many posts of the last couple weeks with much interest. I believe that many of you "opened up" and were most sincere in your personal moments/stories.

Admin Note: Use of three lists

Please keep in mind that the Research list
(research@nuestrosranchos.org) is for communication directly related to
our research in Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes

There is a lot more flexibility of discussion on the General list

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There exists an option for going from individual email to digest email
so your inbox won't get flooded. You can also choose to go to "no mail"
if you want to follow the group discussion online. I would not suggest
"unsubscribing" from any of the lists because then you cannot reply to
any messages that might catch your interest.

The Who We Are thread seems to be appropriately contained on the
"General" list as well as the DNA thread. I'd suggest going to "Digest"
and let me know if you need help doing that.

thanks for bring the subject up. If the group strongly chimes in that
the discussion is inappropriate I'll gladly step in to enforce the
wishes of the many.

joseph

======================

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NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

phyls esparza wrote:
> Hi Joseph, doing a great job but there is a bit much going
on.......what with the who are we, and the DNA, etc....these should be
diferent sites(??) maybe......and a translation site for the emails in
Spanish...(??) Thanks, Phyls
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Puentes"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:34 AM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Admin Note: Use of three lists
>
>
>
>> Please keep in mind that the Research list
>> (research@nuestrosranchos.org) is for communication directly related to
>> our research in Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes
>>
>> There is a lot more flexibility of discussion on the General list
>> (general@nuestrosranchos.org) which can accommodate brief flurries of
>> discussion on areas outside of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes
>> and for general genealogical topics.
>>
>> The Announce list (announce@nuestrosranchos.org) is strictly for
>> announcements.
>>
>> joseph
>>

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Hi Joseph, doing a great job but there is a bit much going on.......what with the who are we, and the DNA, etc....these should be diferent sites(??) maybe......and a translation site for the emails in Spanish...(??) Thanks, Phyls

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Puentes"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:34 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Admin Note: Use of three lists

> Please keep in mind that the Research list
> (research@nuestrosranchos.org) is for communication directly related to
> our research in Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes
>
> There is a lot more flexibility of discussion on the General list
> (general@nuestrosranchos.org) which can accommodate brief flurries of
> discussion on areas outside of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes
> and for general genealogical topics.
>
> The Announce list (announce@nuestrosranchos.org) is strictly for
> announcements.
>
> joseph
>
> ====================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
> http://H2Opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
>

Casillas, Casiyas

I've just come across Casiyas as a form of Casillas (which is also treated
as a distinct surname by FamilySearch).

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hace algunos años el programa de familysearch, antes del nombre ´pnes un
asterisco y salian todas las variantes, tambien se usaban otros para
encontra todas las variantes pero en la ultima actualizacion los quitaron

For several years the program familysearch, before the name 'pnes an
asterisk and leaving all the variants were also used for all other variants
but they removed the last update

2009/7/12 Raquel Ruiz

> I've just come across Casiyas as a form of Casillas (which is also treated
> as a distinct surname by FamilySearch). I was wondering if those who
> regularly research the Casillas surname frequently run across this variant.
> Its an obvious variant but one that I hadn't considered. I've run into
> Cacillas before. Are there other variants?

Placencia, Placensia

I have just become aware that FamilySearch.org makes a distinction between
the "...cia" and the "...sia" forms of this name. It is my impression that
these names are interchangeable.

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nosotros cuando trabajemos en familyseach debemos estar concientes de que
se hizo un esfuerzo para esta base de datos tan grande, y que existen
erores den faltas de ortografia en su palegrafia, (leer textos Antiguos) por
eso debemos de rentar los film y checar a nuestros ancestros

familyseach work in us when we should be aware that an effort was made to
the database so huge and there are spelling errors in your palegrafia (read
ancient texts) that's why we need to rent the film and check out our
ancestors

2009/7/12 Raquel Ruiz

> I have just become aware that FamilySearch.org makes a distinction between
> the "...cia" and the "...sia" forms of this name. It is my impression that
> these names are interchangeable. The first "c" is sometimes an "s", but
> that passes the "exact spelling:off" screen, but not the second "c" or "s".
> Basically, that means one has to look-up both forms of the name when
> researching.

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I wasn't complaining, just noting this for those who are researching this
name. Its just something I hadn't realized before and thought it might be
helpful to others.

No estaba quejandose del FamilySearch, no mas estaba anotandolo por otros
que esten investigando este apellido. No me daba cuenta de esto antes y
pense que pueda ser util a otros.

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no lo tome como queja , en el caso mio, en los libros de la igesia catolico
encuentro Baldes Cuando siembre a sido valdes, estos errores tambien fueron
de las notarias de las iglesias, aunque los buscadores de famliysearch y
todos en el mundo tienen trucos,por ejemplo tengo un tio de nombre Macario y
escrito asi no sale, pero si lo escribe MaCario si sale
de todas maneras perdon

do not take it as a complaint in the case of mine, in the books of the
Catholic igesia meeting Bucket When a sow was valdes, these errors were also
notaries of the church, but seekers famliysearch in the world and all have
tricks, eg I have an uncle named Macario and not well written out, but if
you write if you leave Macario
anyway perdon

2009/7/12 Raquel Ruiz

> I wasn't complaining, just noting this for those who are researching this
> name. Its just something I hadn't realized before and thought it might be
> helpful to others.
>
> No estaba quejandose del FamilySearch, no mas estaba anotandolo por otros
> que esten investigando este apellido. No me daba cuenta de esto antes y
> pense que pueda ser util a otros.

ARCHIVOS EN PDF

estos achivos los tengo en pdf, menos los Dicionarios que no los puedo combertir a pdf, PEROMM SERIAN PARA EL FORO NO PARA MANDAR INDIVIDUALMENTE POR CORREO

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Salvador,

Si quieres convertir los cuatro Diccionarios Novohispanos de Thomas
Hillerkuss de MS WORD a PDF, con mucho gusto puedo ayudarte. Si te animas
envíamelos a la misma dirección electrónica que te di anteriormente.

Bill Figueroa

bak

Arturo Ramos y Bil Figueroa, pudieron convertir el bak de Bernanrdino
fernandes de velasco, del siglo 14
--
Kutsaraipa: Lugar Mítico donde se Reunieron los Antepasados
http://jerez-zacatecas.ga

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Salvador,

Recibí el archivo pipol.bak el cual importé a PAF 5.2 sin dificultad. Aún
no he tenido tiempo de analizarlo, pero aparentemente las vocales con acento
á, é, í, ó, ú y algunas consonantes que no se usan en inglés, como la ñ, las
cambió PAF a una combinación de dos letras. Voy a tratar de corregir esto
antes de importar el archivo a FamilyTree Maker, que es el programa que uso
para la genealogía. Muchísimas gracias. Espero poder corresponderte en un
futuro cercano.

Saludos,
Bill Figueroa

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerez Zacatecas"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:43 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] bak

Arturo Ramos y Bill Figueroa, pudieron convertir el bak de Bernanrdino
fernandes de velasco, del siglo 14