Mariano OLIVARES & Mariaia Catarina de Avalos

I need help. I am looking for the marriage dispensation of Mariano Olivares and Maria Catarina de Avalos.

While searching on the internet I found:

[ http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2011/09/
0404 mariano olivares & catariba avalos / san juan ... 0708 mariano jimenez de sandi & juana maria ... 1085 #698 juan jose hernandez & maria catarina ...]

I can't find "0404 Mariano Olivares & Catariba Avalos." They were most likely married in the 1780's as their daughter Maria Gertrudis Olibares Avalos was baptized 27 Nov 1787 according to the following record:

Name Maria Gertrudis Olibares Abalos
Gender Female
Christening Date 27 Nov 1787
Christening Place SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Mariano Olibares
Mother's Name Maria Catarina De Abalos
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVRZ-7FF : 2 January 2015), Maria Catarina De Abalos in entry for Maria Gertrudis Olibares Abalos, 27 Nov 1787; citing SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 220,648

I am also looking for the marriage dispensation of Jose Flores and Maria Guadalupe Flores, (also from San Juan de Los Lagos).

Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci

Interpreting DOB from Baptism Record: "de xxxxxx dias de nacido"

Is there a more likely interpretation of the date of birth when a baptism record describes an infant's as as "de xxxxx dias de nacido"? xxxxx is a number, siete, quatro, un, etc. I'd like to calculate DOB, but might be wrong by a day if my assumption is wrong. So, generally, was a child "de un dia de nacido" born today or yesterday?

Gracias,

Eduardo
San Jose, CA

Research Digest, Vol 136, Issue 2 FamilySearch instructions

I hope I'm doing this right...

I belong to a FB page called Azores Genealogy. This was posted today. I haven't tried it. But I imagine it's the same for Mexico. I belong to Ancestry.com, and that gives me access to most church documents (Baptisms, Marriages, Obits), but sometimes it's not enough. I will be trying this, substituting the country and town and church I need in Mexico:

For those of you who may not be familiar with navigating familysearch.org, here are some basic directions to getting you to the Madeira & Porto Santo films. Most, if any, of these films are not indexed on familysearch.org (but you can use ABM for that) so you must search through the films manually.

1. On the Main Page: Sign in or create a free account.
2. On the top Menu go to SEARCH.
3. Then go to CATALOG.
4. In the PLACE search field type MADEIRA or PORTO SANTO (or other country location).
5. Select “Portugal, Madeira (ilha)” or “Portugal, Porto Santo (ilha)” from the dropdown and click SEARCH.
6. Select “Portugal, Madeira (ilha) - Church records (50)” or “Portugal, Porto Santo (ilha) - Church records (1)” from the results.
7. You will see the list of PARISHES available on microfilm. [HINT- Create a shortcut on your browser to this page so that you don’t have to keep going through these steps every time.]
8. Select the PARISH you want.
9. Scroll down the page and see the results of microfilms- If it has camera icon over to the right, it is viewable online-DOUBLE CLICK ON THE CAMERA ICON.
10. All the microfilm frames will then populate- Double click on them to enlarge.

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 01:36:35 +0000
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Domingo Garcia & Bonfacia Rocha ?
Message-ID:

Hola Members, I have a Domingo Garcia married to Bonifacia Rocha - Parents origin ?

According to 2 children of these two individuals their(Maria Leonor Garcia) acta de Bautismos 1801-1809 de San Juan de Los Lagos Image # 107 states that the Parents of Domingo Garcia were Paternal Grandparents- Nicolas Garcia and Eufracia Sabala- Maternal Grandparents- Jose Maria Rocha and Antonia Magana .(date of Bautismo -22 of april 1802 San Juan de Los Lagos)

The second acta de bautismo (Jose Julian Garcia) de San Diego de Alejandria (16 Jan. 1805) Bautismos-1803-1810,1815-1823 -Image # 119 states the same as above (Nicolas Garcia and Eufracia Sabala and Jose Maria Rocha and Antonia Magana.

Just wondering has any body run into these names -Nicolas Garcia ,and Eufracia Sabala

JOse Maria Rocha and Antonia Magana . I am kinda of stuck.

Thank you for your time

Ronnie

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Domingo Garcia & Bonfacia Rocha ?

Hola Members, I have a Domingo Garcia married to Bonifacia Rocha - Parents origin ?

According to 2 children of these two individuals their(Maria Leonor Garcia) acta de Bautismos 1801-1809 de San Juan de Los Lagos Image # 107 states that the Parents of Domingo Garcia were Paternal Grandparents- Nicolas Garcia and Eufracia Sabala- Maternal Grandparents- Jose Maria Rocha and Antonia Magana .(date of Bautismo -22 of april 1802 San Juan de Los Lagos)

The second acta de bautismo (Jose Julian Garcia) de San Diego de Alejandria (16 Jan. 1805) Bautismos-1803-1810,1815-1823 -Image # 119 states the same as above (Nicolas Garcia and Eufracia Sabala and Jose Maria Rocha and Antonia Magana.

Just wondering has any body run into these names -Nicolas Garcia ,and Eufracia Sabala

JOse Maria Rocha and Antonia Magana . I am kinda of stuck.

Thank you for your time

Ronnie

anastacio sanchez and related families

anastacio sanchez who is my 3rd great grandfather born about 1850 and married my maria luz jaramillo. all children have been accounted for so far in baptismals records on family search. im currently looking for a marriage record or something of the sort that lists his parents or anything of the relevance. i do know that maria jaramillos parents were a eugenio jaramillo and or nicolasa hernandez.

Italians in Mexico (Lomelini) research Digest, Vol 6, Issue 16

Hello Alicia & Rose,
I like Maria and most likely others that have alteno ancestry
descend from Carlos Lomelini too, so please count me in too. The
prologue mentioned by Alicia lists several of our ancestors: Manuel
Gomez, Francisco Gtz. Rubio. If there is even more in the Duran book on
the Lomelin family, Alicia, would you mind sharing with us? This books
sounds so interesting...
Thanks, Irma Gomez Gtz aka Irma Gomez-Lucero

os Ranchos] Italians in Mexico
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID:
> <3562acd40607151348g6ac2d57fv96bab07bc59c4717@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Rose,
>
> I too descend from Carlos Lomellini through two of Juana Lomelin's
> daughters. I also descend from Magdalena de Lavezares and have the
> same interest you do in learning about Italians in Mexico. I have
> found references to these lines in Mariano Gonzalez-Leal's book
> "Reto?os de Espa?a en la Nueva Galicia" Tomo II. There are also
> chapters In Jose Luis Vazquez's book on Genealogia de Nochistlan that
> trace the Lomellini's and the Lavezares descendancy.
>
> I would be happy to exchange data with you. Please e-mail me
directly.
>
> Maria Cortez
>
>
> Message: 14
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:00:39 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Alicia Carrillo
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Italians in Mexico
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Message-ID: <20060715170039.42643.qmail@web81614.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Rose,
>>
>> Here is a quote from the prologue by Mariano Gonzalez Leal in the
>> book, Los Duran de Nochistlan.
>>
>> " Tambien hubo en Nochistl?n, sangre Genovesa, como la de los
>> Lavezzari-aqui conocidos por Lavezares, de quienes atr?s hemos
>> hablado-y la de los Lomellini -aqui reputados Lomelines-, Carlos de
>> Lomelin, a quien en la Relacion del siglo XVII se le hace,
>> curiosamente, espa?ol de los Reinos de Genova, procedia de una de las

>> siete Casas Nobles de G?nova, y fue estanciero pr?spero en
>> Mexticac?n. Establecido alli por 1624, cas? con do?a Maria de
>> Benavides, descendiente del viejo linaje Nochistlense de ese
>> apellido, habiendo nacido de alli cinco v?stagos: Gaspar, Carlos,
>> Juana, Domingo y Maria.
>>
>> Juana cas? en Nochistl?n el 12 de Septiembre de 1621 con Rodrigo de
>> Carbajal y Ulloa; y viuda, pas? a segundas nupcias con el
>> Jalostitlense Don Francisco Guti?rrez de Hermosillo, hijo del capit?n

>> Francisco Guti?rrez Rubio y de Do?a Leonor de Hermosillo. Por estas
>> vias, gran parte de los linajes Jalostitlenses remontan su
>> ascendencia a los Lomelines de Nochistlan.
>>
>> Domingo uni? su vida a la de do?a Juana de Mendoza, Jalostitlense;
>> hija de Manuel G?mez y de do?a Catalina Hurtado de Mendoza. Cuatro
>> varones y dos hembras resultaron del connubio; a traves de tres de
>> ellos se extendi?
>> generosamente el apellido en la regi?n.
>>
>> Maria de Lomelin y de Benavides cas? con el criollo de la ciudad de
>> Mejico, Don Nicolas P?rez de Contreras. Una hija de este matrimonio,
>> Juana, que fue bautizada en Nochistlan el 3 de Febrere de 1643, cas?,

>> casi ni?a, con don Pedro Gallaga Mandarte y Rodriguez, hijo de Don
>> Pedro y de do?a Anna. Del matrimonio surgio el linage alte?o de los
>> Gallagas, rama materna del sacerdote y guerrillero don Miguel
>> Hidalgo-Costilla y Gallaga-Mandarte.
>>
>> End of quote. There is much more information about the Lomellin's but

>> since it is not indexed for the names it is time consuming to extract

>> specific information and have not had the time to do it yet.
>>
>> Alicia
>> San Jose, Ca
>>
>> Rose Hardy wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know of any books, websites, passenger ship records
>> regarding Italians immigrating to Mexico say during the late 1500's
>> to early 1800's?
>> I've checked out the Archivos Espanoles En Red website:
>> http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp to see if I could find my
>> Italian ancestors who settled in Mexico, via Spain, but have come up
>> with a big zero. I have a copy of the book " La Emigracion Castellana

>> y Leonesa al Nuevo Mundo 1517-1700" by Maria del Carmen Martinez
>> Martinez and nothing in there as well.
>>
>> The surnames involved are Lomellin, Lomelli (Carlos Lomellini about
>> 1600, children and grandchildren in Nochistlan, Zacatecas) and
>> Durazzo around Hermosillo, San Miguel de Horcasitas, Sonora in the
>> late 1700's to early 1800's.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rose
>> Fresno, CA

"Ameca, protofundación mexicana" gratis en Google Books

Compañeros genealogistas:

Quería compartirles que el libro "Ameca, protofundación mexicana: historia de la propiedad del valle de Ameca, Jalisco, y circunvecindad", del gran historiador amequense Jesús Amaya Topete, ya está disponible gratis en Google Books. Este libro es esencial para los que tenemos ascendencia amequense. Aquí está el enlace:

https://books.google.com/books?id=8IpnAAAAMAAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Delete Alert: FW: Somos Primos "We are Cousins" May 2017

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http://somosprimos.com/sp2017/spmay17/spmay17.htm
Somos Primos May 2017

Dear Primos and Friends:

On April 26th, joyfully, I added my voice to the many that attending the Westminster City Council meeting. At issue was a resolution to approve an application for "The Mendez Historic Trail and Green Street Bideway Project."

Outside of Orange County, Califoria most people are not aware that the Mendez v. Westminster School District in California took place in 1947, SEVEN years BEFORE the well-known Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka.
Kansas.

Both were about the educational civil rights of minority children, who in both cases were segregated into inferior schools. Mexican-heritage children were being placed in remedial Mexican schools through-out Orange County.

Those who spoke in favor of the resolution, were educators, long-term city residents, activists of all ages, even a mother with two small children, thanked the Mendez children, who were in attendance.

I served on the Westminster City General Plan Advisory Committee, and supported the idea of a bike trail, but it was the creativity of Sergio Contreras, past Mayor and current Council Member who saw the opportunity for bringing public visibily to the most important Civil Rights Case in our nation, and it took place right here in Westminster, Orange County California, not Kansas, and through the action of Latinos.

Since Somos Primos went online in Janary 2000, I have published 52 articls in some way connected to the "Mendez Case"< site:http://somosprimos.com > Enjoy.

Thank you to all who have sent information. If you sent me any information between April 27th and now, PLEASE send it again. My computer ate up emails that I was saving to include in the June issue.

God bless America . . . Mimi

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05/01/2017 11:46 AM

Looking for dispensa Luis Ornelas and Matiana Ruiz

Jaime Holcombe has in his notes (edited):

3. Mariana de Ulloa, born c.1671, married c.1685 to Antonio Ruiz. Daughter Juana was christened in Teocaltiche 8 Sep 1686. Daughter Matiana Ruiz wed Luis de Ornelas y Pérez de Frías (MD Teocaltiche 22 June 1708):

Juan López de Elizalde y Becerra and María Burgueño

Mariana López---------------------------1-------Leonor López
md. Juan Pérez de Frías.........................md. Juan de Sepúlveda
Diego Pérez de Frías--------------------2-------Josefa de Sepulveda
md. Elena Sotomayor.............................md Capt. Pedro de Ulloa y Márquez
Melchora Pérez de Frías---------------- 3-------Mariana de Ulloa
md. José Ornelas................................md. Antonio Ruiz
el pretenso-----------------------------4-------la pretensa

Apparently the dispensa is dated 22 June 1708. I have not been able to locate it. Has anyone been able to locate it?

Thank you
Alex

Bartholome Rodriguez y Tomasa Ulloa vdo. (both wives related to Dona Petronilla de Gabai/Martin Navarro

I don't know much about them so it is difficult for me to figure out the complexity of their ties to Dona Petronilla de Gabai y Martin Navarro.

Bartholome Rodriguez de Aguascalientes la Cienegilla, marries first time with Theresa de (Rodriguez) Ponce 4 grado Dispensas And the second marriage with Thomasa de la Rosa Ulloa also with the 4 grado dispensa the two wifes are related.

Bartholome Rodriguez Baso 1675–Deceased • LTMV-QXX
cc. Thomasina de la Rosa Ulloa Sepulveda y Roxas 1672–Deceased • 979P-BLY
Marriage: 27 September 1703 Nochistlán, Nochistlán de Mejía, Zacatecas, México

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6QRS-YDG

There are about 12 pages of the Dispensa below starting around 22 September 1702, I could only read the following from Testigo Mathias Rubalcava

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DJG3-Q

“Bartolome Rodriguez de Baxo vdo. De Teresa Ponce y Tomasa de la Rosa Ulloa hL de Pedro de Ulloa y Marquez, que al presenter tratan de contraer matrimonio son parientes en guartto grado de afinidad y por copula ilicita porque esta Theresa por que fue hL de Nicolas Ponze niet de Dona Juana de Siordia bisnieto de Maria Gabai y Teresa nieta de Martin Nabarro y de Dona Petronilla de Montesuma y ?????
//// de este Martin Nabarro y de Maria Rosa de Ulloa por que este Pedro de Ulloa Marquez es nieto de Maria Ruis de Esparsa bisnieto de Francisca Gabai y Teresa nieta de este otro Martin Nabarro y Petronilla Montesuma…..

While there are several family versions on Familysearch does anyone or has anyone put these pieces together yet. I my search for Juan Manuel Rodriguez born abt 1758 cc: Maria Petra Alonso I found a record for this couple back in 2015 and just today I saw someone added this dispensa in another record. Thanks for the help.
Theresa is about 22 or 23 years

Antonio de Cuéllar

Hola a todos:

Me pregunto si alguno de ustedes sabe quienes fueron los padres de Antonio de Cuéllar, casado en Aguascalientes en 1681 con doña Josefa Macías. Hace tiempo leí que aparecía como "hijo de la Iglesia" y que había crecido en la hacienda de Mariquita, en Encarnación de Díaz.

Me pregunto si existe algún documento posterior que de luz sobre su origen.

Gracias de antemano

Marcelina

Sánchez de Aldana

Anybody in the group a Sánchez de Aldana? I saw this message and got
interested in this Colonial Genealogist publication. Has anyone read a
copy of it? Well its a long shot but thought I'd throw it out there for
consideration.



As always if you just happen to be a Sánchez de Aldana and one of your
lines just happens to be in the below listed publication make sure to
verify the information for yourself.



Don't take anything for granted.



joseph



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Subject:
Re: Urrutias of Chihuahua
From:
hut1020@aol.com
Date:
9 Mar 2006 05:30:01 -0700
To:
MEX-CHIHUAHUA-L@rootsweb.com


This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.

Classification: Query

Message Board URL:

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3ZC.2ACI/1936.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1

Message Board Post:

Your ancestor Jose Maria Urrutia, brother of the Manuel Urrutia you mentioned, was born 4 January 1816 in Chihuahua City, and was baptized 6 January 1816 as "Jose Mariano de Jesus Telesforo de los Reyes Urrutia [the IGI says "Orrutia" based on the handwriting] hijo legitimo de Jose Antonio Urrutia y de Doña Mariana Sánchez de Aldana, Españoles (LDS Film # 162665).   The Sánchez de Aldana family is an old family from Michoacán and Jalisco, whose descent from Leonel de Cervantes, Conquistador, is given in "The Colonial Genealogist"  Vol. III, No. 2 (New Series), October 1970, at pp. 73-79.


brick wall in Tamazula Jalisco and Sayula Jalisco

Hi,
I am trying to solve a couple of brickwalls in my family tree

Miguel Munguia, born in Tamazula, Jalisco in 1768 his father is Carlos Munguia and his mother Theresa de Coria.
his wife is Eufrasia Rosalia Castañeda daugther of Juan Peres Valdes and Maria Gertrudis de Siordia.

That is as far as I go there

On the other branch is Jose Barragan married on april 25, 1820 in Sayula, Jalisco with Maria Monica Cobian.

Monica´s mother is Nicolasa Michel and her father is Tomas Cobian.

I hope you can help me with this two branches, I am really stock there

Thanks for your help

Hola,

Estoy tratando de encontrar un par de piezas perdidas en mi árbol

Miguel Munguia, nacido en Tamazula, Jalisco en 1768 su padre es Carlos Munguia y su madre Theresa de Coria.
Su esposa es Eufrasia Rosalia Castañeda hija de Juan Peres Valdes y Maria Gertrudis de Siordia.

Por otro lado
Jose Barragan casado el 25 de 1820 en Sayula, Jalisco con Maria Monica Cobian
la mamá de Monica es Nicolasa Michel y su padre es Tomas Cobian.

Espero me puedan ayudar estoy atoradisima con estos dos y el sabado tengo una reunion de esa familia y les quiero enseñar el árbol lo mas completo posible

Se que con su ayuda lo puedo lograr, Muchas Gracias

Patty Haro

maria amat and or a andres coronado connection

my great grandmother felisitas coronado was born in october 19 1896 and was married in villa de cos zacatecas mexico to my great grandpa crescencio. her parents were after looking at various census reports marriage records etc looks to be a francisco coronado and or a emilia sanchez. francisco coronado was born in jalisco, mexico around 1869 and was married in zacatecas, mexico. his parents from what i can tell from reading was a romauldo coronado and or a maria gonzalez. im having a hard time finding anything out on romauldo coronados parents who was supposed to be a maria amat and or a andres coronado. andres coronado birth date was supposed to be about 1825 and or wife maria amat was about 1827.. can anyone have a look at my tree information in my files and or helps me ? thanks you to whomever can or points me in right direction. so far from help i found out from connecting other lines of family there may be a family member who lives near neon leon mexico who may or not be alive still and that got me excited so thank you again you all definitely made my day!! im trying to find parents relating to andres coronado and or a maria amat.

Dispensa de Manuel José Gómez y María de las Nieves de Salas

Buen día a todos, he tratado de encontrar la dispensa matrimonial de Manuel
José Gómez y María de las Nieves de Salas sin éxito, ellos se se casaron el
el día 19 de agosto de 1753 en Santa María de los Lagos, Jalisco. ¿alguien
del grupo la tendrá ya localizada?.

De antemano gracias por su ayuda.

Research Digest, Vol 135, Issue 9

This is great news Daniel! Half of my Mexican ancestry comes from Sinaloa,
the other half is Jalisco. I have spent a great deal of time working on San
Ignacio records. Nothing is available prior to 1900 and I have been
informed by the City Offices to go to Culiacan for birth and death
registration. The office there has been quite helpful. I recently completed
a book on the life of my abuelita, Florencia Salazar Aguirre. I am happy
with the first half of her life story--in San Ignacio and the surrounding
ranchos. The rest of the story takes place in San Francisco California. Let
me know if you find other Sinaloa information of interest.
Juan Carrillo
rcafartista@gmail.com

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Sinaloa Civil Records

The Sinaloa Civil records are not currently online at neither Family Search nor Ancestry.com. I have read that the LDS church entered into an agreement with the State of Sinaloa in 2013 to microfilm them.

Does anyone know the status of this project?

George Fulton

"Autlán de la Grana. Población y Mestizaje" de Lilia Oliver

Hola a todos,

¿Alguno de ustedes ha leído el libro "Autlán de la Grana. Población y Mestizaje" escrito por la Dra. Lilia Oliver y publicado en 2015?

Creo que es de gran ayuda para la historia y la genealogía de esa región.

¿Saben dónde puedo adquirir un ejemplar? Hasta ahora he buscado en librerías por Internet y no lo he encontrado.

Gracias de antemano,

Enrique Agraz