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Juan Francisco Sanchez Alvarez

San Cristobal de la Barranca in in jalisco state near Zapopan, Garcia de la Cadena Zacatecas, Mezquital del Oro etc.

You can search directly in church records or civil records.

rmcneal,

I have a similar situation with my Paternal Grandmother's line. Her last name is "Ceja" from Las Zarquillas, Villamar, Michoacan. Rumors/family stories say her family's orignal last name was "Zamora" and that they changed it to "Ceja" during La Cristeada war or Mexican revolution because they were being persecuted by the goverment, but I have discovered that they (my ancestors) have been alternating Ceja & Zamora for some generations before the Mexican revolution. Some of my ancestors were baptized "Ceja" and marry as "Zamora" and vice-versa. I've found many documents altenating these 2 last names during the 1800's. I honestly have no idea why they did it, hope to one day find out.

Saludos,
Roberto Hdez

Rmcneal,

Yes - I have come across situations like this and it can be very
frustrating. The further back you go the more variations you will find with
surnames. It is not uncommon for siblings to use different surnames,
sometimes it is simple like using the mother's surname instead of the
fathers, but other times they use the name of a grandparent so it looks like
the name came out of nowhere.

-Angelina-

Hello: please tell me where you found the passport photos link on family search. I have found good information from freedom on information act request to US Citizenshlip and Immigration services some papers included passport pictures and in their own words some of my ancestors history (those of recent years and those who migrated to the US). I also came across a Who's Who in Mexico book at the University of Texas at Austin with a quick reference to one of my ancestors who was a doctor. Hope this helps. Anita

> From: ochoafam4@rocketmail.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Images, periodicals, etc
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 2:15 PM
> Hello All,
>
> I was just wondering if there is a particular database,
> resource, etc to find pictures or images. To match the name
> with a face of some kind? Does anyone know if a fruitful
> online resource for finding pictures or images for these
> ancestors? I have found many passport photos through the
> family search weblinks, but I am looking for a significant
> online newspaper archive. Somewhere I might place the names
> of ancestors with their image, work history, or other story.
> It seems that some of my line goes back many, many
> generations in Guadalajara, Encarnacion de Diaz and the
> surrounding towns so this area is of special interest to me.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Monica Ochoa (MAZO)
>
> Saludos,
>
> Queria preguntar si hay una base de datos, recursos, etc
> para encontrar fotos o imágenes. Para coincidir el nombre
> con una cara de algún tipo? ¿Alguien sabe si un recurso
> establesido en línea para encontrar fotos o imágenes de
> esos antepasados​​? He encontrado muchas fotos de
> pasaporte a través de los enlaces web Family Search, pero
> estoy buscando un archivo en línea significante. En algún
> lugar puede ser que coloque los nombres de los antepasados
> ​​con su imagen, historia laboral, o de otra historia.
> Parece que mucho de mi línea se encuentra por generaciones
> en Guadalajara, Encarnación de Díaz y de los pueblos de
> los alrededores por lo que esta zona es de especial interés
> para mí.
>
> Gracias,
> Mónica Ochoa (Mazo)

ME ENCANTARIA PARTICIPAR, COMO NOS PODEMOS CONTACTAR ? MI NOMBRE ES ROCIO I PADILLA.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: guadalajaradispensas@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:09:16 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Proyecto de GuadalajaraDispensas.com Project
>
> Hola todos--
> Me gustaría recordarles que el esfuerzo no es solo mio, sino también de varios voluntarios que han ofrecido su tiempo para el beneficio de todos nosotros.
>
> Si hay otros aquí que puedan contribuir--favor de ponerse en contacto conmigo.
>
>
> Saludos,
> -Claudia
>
>

Rita Juliana de Leon is my 1st cousin (6x removed)and she's a direct descendant of Manuel de Leon and Josepha de Escobedo, my 6th and 7th GGPs. My e-mail is josecarlos1944@hotmail.com if you want to compare notes with me.

Jose Carlos de Leon

Debra, I've gone through the 1904 and 1905 marriages in Jerez and can't find Jesus Perez and Refugio Rodriguez.. are you sure they married in Jerez, Zac?
Linda in B.C.

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From: "thyme2be@yahoo.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 8:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro- Perez/Rodriguez Family from Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas

Hi everyone, I am excited to be here on this journey to finding my family roots!
I am not sure how to begin and keep everything as organized as possible for my own peace of mind.  I have spent a couple of days at the local lds center attempting to decipher the records. Any tips that you might share will be appreciated.

(I will post another intro with family from Aguascalientes)

Debra Perez

Jesus Perez abt. 1883  married around 1905-1905 Refugia Rodriguez abt. 1882
Jerez Zacatecas

Children:

Luis Perez abt.1905

Pillar Perez abt.1906

Jesus Perez abt. 1907

Jose Rodriguez Perez abt.1911

Antonia Perez abt. 1918 United States

Debra, I'm going through the 1905 marriage dispensations, if I find anything on Jesus Perez and Refugia Rodriguez I will let you know. I don't have anything on them in my files.... yet..
Linda in B.C.

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From: "thyme2be@yahoo.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 8:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro- Perez/Rodriguez Family from Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas

Hi everyone, I am excited to be here on this journey to finding my family roots!
I am not sure how to begin and keep everything as organized as possible for my own peace of mind.  I have spent a couple of days at the local lds center attempting to decipher the records. Any tips that you might share will be appreciated.

(I will post another intro with family from Aguascalientes)

Debra Perez

Jesus Perez abt. 1883  married around 1905-1905 Refugia Rodriguez abt. 1882
Jerez Zacatecas

Children:

Luis Perez abt.1905

Pillar Perez abt.1906

Jesus Perez abt. 1907

Jose Rodriguez Perez abt.1911

Antonia Perez abt. 1918 United States

I should have mention  Gregorio and his siblings were born in Ciudad Zacatecas. I have  Gregorio bapt. May 1859 Sixto bapt. April 1861 and Pedro bapt. Feb 1863 all baptisms in Ciudad Zacatecas.
Linda Castanon-Long

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From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:13 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Success! Error in record Castaneda not Castanon

Hey everyone,
Just want to share a find.  I'm looking for Castaneda in Jerez, Zac.  I came across a Tomas Castanon with parents Gregorio Castanon and Isabel Galvan in Ermita de los Correas, which are the names of my great-grandmother's parents.  On a hunch, I looked up the baptismal record and found all the right names, including grandparents. The priest made a mistake on the paternal last name!  I feel like Sherlock Holmes.  :-)

Still haven't found my great-grandmother Vita Castaneda Galvan, but I've found some of her brothers. Time for bed...

Laura Gonzalez

good for you!  I am Castanon and find Castaneda all the time.. here is one more record just in case you don't have it. This is as far back as I go on this line..
happy hunting and I do understand you feelings.
Linda Castanon-Long
 baptism 31 May 1886 in Jerez, Zac
Gregorio born in el Tesorero 9 May 1886 8am
parents: Gregorio Castaneda and Ysabel Galvan
pat grn: Juan Castaneda and Jesus Segobia
mat grn: Toribio Galvan and Margarita Marquez
godparents: Hipolito Sosa and Ysidra Castaneda
source: 0439861 film
page 376 Family search online pilot program

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From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:13 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Success! Error in record Castaneda not Castanon

Hey everyone,
Just want to share a find.  I'm looking for Castaneda in Jerez, Zac.  I came across a Tomas Castanon with parents Gregorio Castanon and Isabel Galvan in Ermita de los Correas, which are the names of my great-grandmother's parents.  On a hunch, I looked up the baptismal record and found all the right names, including grandparents. The priest made a mistake on the paternal last name!  I feel like Sherlock Holmes.  :-)

Still haven't found my great-grandmother Vita Castaneda Galvan, but I've found some of her brothers. Time for bed...

Laura Gonzalez

Congratulations! This success points out a very good rule of thumb. Either
the scribes, priest, and/or the people who are transcribing the records can
make mistakes. Always go to the source material to confirm.

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-
> bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of mayangrl@sonic.net
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:14 AM
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Success! Error in record Castaneda not
Castanon
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> Just want to share a find. I'm looking for Castaneda in Jerez, Zac. I
came across a Tomas
> Castanon with parents Gregorio Castanon and Isabel Galvan in Ermita de los
Correas,
> which are the names of my great-grandmother's parents. On a hunch, I
looked up the
> baptismal record and found all the right names, including grandparents.
The priest made a
> mistake on the paternal last name! I feel like Sherlock Holmes. :-)
>
> Still haven't found my great-grandmother Vita Castaneda Galvan, but I've
found some of
> her brothers. Time for bed...
>
> Laura Gonzalez

I have loved Mariachi music for some time since my husband introduced it to me years ago. I got to go to a large mariachi music concert in Las Vegas with my mother- and father-in-law years ago, and I had a wonderful time. As I speak very little Spanish, I don't understand the words, but I really enjoy the music and the singing.

I noticed a real similarity between Mariachi music and German "Oomm Pah Pah" music and mentioned it to my mother-in-law. She said that was possible because there were a lot of German settlers in Jalisco as well as other parts of Mexico. (I did remember seeing a graveyard in Central Baja where all the names were German!)

Does anyone think that there could be a connection between the German music and Mariachi music? I hear the German music every year at Oktoberfest and it really reminds me of the Mariachi music, too. However, it doesn't have the emotion or heart that Mariachi music has in it!

Kathleen Hargrove Gutierrez

Jose Antonio Michel
I read your posting about the myth of French blood in Jalisco. With a last name like "Michel" my father always said we descended from a French soldier who stayed in Jalisco after the Franco intervention. He knew several different versions from other Jalisiences about how their descendants spread along the Ameca or Armeria river valley all the way to Colima. I think he honestly believed it. When I started doing genealogy research in 1990, within a short time I found the Michel surname present in Jalisco as early as the mid 1500's. I think my dad was disapointed when I proved his theory or story wrong. Later I showed my father that our first ancestor in Mexico was Juan Michel Ordonez(AKA El Portugues) son of the Spanish knight Diego de San Martin who arrived with Hernan Cortez. I explained how the authors Antonio Tello(Cronica Miscelanea de Santa Provincia de Xalisco), Matias de la Mota Padilla(Historia del Reino de la Nueva Galicia), and Jose Lopez Portillo y Weber(La conquista , y la Rebellion de la Nueva Galicia) all chronicle the life and feats of Juan Michel Ordonez among other conquistadors. I truthfully believe my father likes this true and documented version better than his old story. Ive researched the Pares website but Ive yet to locate the origin of my Michel surname.

can you share names or dates.. I also do research in Jerez but many families are from Tepetongo or go back an forth from Jerez to Tepetongo.
Linda Castanon-Long in B.C.

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From: "andrewsbarbara@charter.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:22 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jerez Zacatecas Church Rechords

Hello Everyone,  I've been doing my research on my grandfather's Valdez, (Valdes) line.  He was born in La Estancia, Tepetongo, but his line comes from Jerez (Los Cuervos).  I've been able to go back to my 4X gr grandfather and there the records have a very large gap.  From 1835 to beyond 1849 no records exist on Family Search. I was wondering if anyone has been successful finding records for this period.  Perhaps I've missed something.

Thanks for any help anyone can give.  It's particularly frustrating, because I think I know who my 5X gr grandfather is but need some records to confirm.

Gracias!

Juan Francisco Sanchez Alvarez

Check this web pages

http://jerez-zacatecas.webcindario.com (web Vieja mas Completa)
http://jerez-zacatecas.galeon.com
http://club.telepolis.com/letorre/
http://jerezzacatecas-salvador.blogspot.com/
http://club.telepolis.com/jerz/
http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/

Kathleen Gutierrez

I think I saw the groom's parents as Joaquin Gonzalez (difunto - dead) and Luila Laozonda de Harnar(?)

The bride's parents appear to be Juan Manuel de Exqueda (difunto) and Maria Antonia Antonia Sanchez Fuerontes (?).

I hope this helps a little. The spellings might be a little off, but that is what I thought I read.

Kathy Hargrove Gutierrez

Luisa Lugarda de LLamas
Jose Gonzalez
Miguel Perez
Hilario Ramos

saludos:
Luis Valdes

Juan Francisco Sanchez Alvarez

Hola, yo tambien estoy investigando a los Sanchez-Castellanos.

Juan Sanchez Castellanos se caso con Thomassina de Haro (Thomasina de Saucedo) el 27 de abril de 1634 en Tlaltenango, Zacatecas, cuando se caso el ya era viudo y venia de Jerez, Zacatecas tuvieron como hijos:
Maria,Joseph,Nicolas,Ursula, Manuel,Lorenzo,Juan y Manuel. todos nacidos en Tlaltenango, posteriormente muchos de mis ancestros aparecen ya como Monte Escobedo que antes pertenecio a Tlaltenango y los registros son alrededor de 1709.

Juan Sanchez Castellanos debio morir alrededor de 1649 ya que en el censo de 1650 en Tlaltenango ya solo aparece el rancho de Thomasina de Haro.

Ahorita revisando en los archivos de PARES encontre que en 1607 Manuel Sanchez-Castellanos vecino de Sevilla, España con su esposa Catalina de Caceres y sus hijos Juan, Diego, Ana y Lorenza viajaban a la provincia de la Nueva España y que iban a ser beneficiados por su tio Francisco Castellon y sus 2 primos. Manuel Sanchez Castellanos era hijo de Manuel Martin y de Maria Garcia de Castellanos, Catalina de Caceres fue hija de Juan Sanchez de Hedia (quiza Heredia) y de Isabel Garcia, ellos indican que viajan porque se las han visto duras, que son gente principal y honrada.

Todo coincide en que Juan Sanchez Castellanos fue el hijo de Manuel Sanchez Castellanos, por el mismo tiempo en que vivio Juan existio un Diego Sanchez casado con Maria de Renteria que tal vez fue su hermano. Lo curioso es que a lo largo de 400 años en Zacatecas, es muy comun el nombre de Juan Sanchez y Manuel Sanchez en nuestra familia, mi familia se quedo con solo Sanchez alrededor de 1750 en Monte Escobedo. Fue gente muy rica a lo largo del siglo XVII y XVIII que contaba con ranchos, haciendas y he encontrado que poseian esclavos.

Lugares donde he localizado a los Sanchez Castellanos, Jerez, Tlaltenango,Tepetongo,Colotlan, Garcai de la Cadena y Tepechitlan.

Saludos prima.

Hi Alice,
This is interesting. It's my understanding that the French made their way to Jalpa during the Maximilian era. According to a wikipedia entry, parts of Jalpa were modeled in the French tradition.

What else can you tell me about your Olasava line? I stumbled upon "Felipa Olasava" in La Villita in the 1820 Census for Jalpa. I believe she is the mother of Lauriano Gonzalez, as these are listed under the same household and Felipa is listed first (there's no one else listed). You'll find the Olasava household in page 16 (1820-016-Jalpa.jpg) of the 1820 Census (Film # 168818): www.arturogonzalez.com/1820JalpaPadron.zip

A search for "Felipa Olasava" with a spouse with a "Gonzalez" last name let to 1779 wedding in Teocaltiche with Cristoval Gonzales Bermejo, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JCDS-YX9 . Do you think this is the same Felipa and are they related to your Olasava line?

I'd be very interested in knowing what you find.

Thanks,
Arturo