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Does anyone know why we can't access the 1930 Mexico census on familysearch?

When I cleaned up several generations on the Esparaza tree on Family Search to reflect the accurate relationships I was very careful to include the correct mother’s maiden name on each record which was especially important on generations with the same name, like Lope Ruiz Esparza Espinosa and Lope Ruíz de Esparza Diaz. However, the same Family Search user who had deleted the couple relationship mentioned on my previous post changed a number of the names, including some, but not all of the wives by adding long extensions like these: 

Lic. Lope Ruíz De Esparza Espinoza Sr. De Esparza de Galar y Zariquiegui 
Lic. Pedro Ruíz De Esparza Caparroso Sr. De Esparza de Galar y Zariquiegui - Lope Ruiz Esparza Espinosa’s son Martin Ruíz De Esparza Huici Sr. De Esparza de Galar y Zariquiegui - Lope Ruiz Esparza Espinosa’s father 
María de Larrasoaña Sra. Del Palacio de Zariquiegui – One of Martin Ruíz De Esparza Huici’s wives (Not Lope’s mother)

This extended version of the name was obviously taken from court documents like the example below that uses the name in the title with the added description in the Content of the summary, but this isn’t always the case. There are many court actions that only use Lope Ruiz de Esparza in both the title and Content of the court action.

LOPE RUIZ DE ESPARZA contra DOMINGO DE OSCOZ
Content: Lope Ruiz de Esparza, señor de los palacios de Esparza (Galar) y Zariquiegui, vecino de Pamplona, contra Domingo de Oscoz, residente en el barrio de Santa Engracia de Pamplona, sobre retrocesion de la venta de una viña junto al degolladero de Pamplona de Antonio de Espinosa, su primo carnal, por 47 ducados, alegando derecho de tanteo como pariente mas cercano.

My question is whether those of nobility were referred to as Lord or Lady of a domain from birth, or only after the death of the father? It doesn’t make sense to me that three generations of Esparza men who may have been alive at the same time would all be referred to as Lord of Esparza de Galar y Zariquiegui. It seems that, for genealogy purposes, using the mother’s maiden name after the paternal surname distinguishes one generation from another sufficiently. Family Search offers another area called Other Formation/Alternate Name where name variations and additional information can be added.

Anyway, I looked into what Family Search recommended for Name entry and following the guidelines changed the names back to the ones I had originally used with paternal and maternal surnames. I included Source documents that stated ONLY the name without the extended description in the title of court actions, suggested that name variations could be added under Other Formation/Alternate Name, and actually added the extended information in that section. Again, the user changed them all back to the extended names. I’m not to get into a dueling match with this user and make any more changes. Meanwhile, I’m going to a Family Search seminar in June that deals with how to maintain accuracy in trees and deal with those who are making it difficult, so I will bring up my issues then. 

Thanks for any insight that can be offered here about title and name traditions in Spain during the Middle Ages and in genealogy, in general. 

I'm looking for the parents of Joseph Padilla and his wife María Eusebia Lópes de Lara. They probably married before June of 1734 in either Jalisco or Guanajuato.

Joseph Padilla, noted as born in Cuarenta, Jalisco (date unknown) and died before 25 Jun 1746. He is the first husband of María Eusebia Lópes de Lara (born c1715 probably in León, Guanajuato). 

I believe, but cannot yet prove, María Eusebia Lópes de Lara is the daughter of Donato López de Lara (b. c1685 & buried 30 Oct 1751 in León, Guanajuato) and Agueda Juliana de Soto (Sotomayor y Aguilar?).

1. María Eusebia Lópes de Lara (c1715 León?)

   1st marriage: bef. June 1734? Joseph Padilla b. Cuarenta, Jalisco d. bef. 25 Jun 1746
           1.1 Aguedas Juliana Padilla b. 1735 León, Guanajuato
               m. 5 Mar 1753 don Juan Antonío Muñoz de Xeres
           1.2 Joseph Marcelino Antonio Padilla b. c1739 Cuarenta, Jalisco
               m. 13 Aug 1757 doña María Antonía Muñoz de Xeres
               m. 10 May 1769 Antonía Victoria de Torres (India)
           1.3 Manuel Ciriaco Padilla b. 19 Jun 1739 Lagos bt. 28 Jun 1739 Lagos (Padrinos: Phelipe Lópes de Lara y Maria Theresa de Aranda)
               m. María Leonarda de Espinosa
           1.4 Marcos de Jesus Padilla b. 25 Apr 1741 Las Nazas, Jalisco
               m. 5 Jul 1767 Clara Silveria de Aranda
           1.5 María Josepha Padilla b. 31 Mar 1743 Lagos

   2nd marriage: 25 Jun 1746 don Joseph Muñoz de Xeres (son of Juan Muñoz de Xeres y Gómez and Ysabel de Aranda y Vanegas)
           1.6 José Segundo Muñoz de Xeres b. c1754
           1.7 Ana Petronila Muñoz de Xeres b. c1756
           1.8 Inéz Serapia Muñoz de Xeres b. c1758
           1.9 María Muñoz de Xeres b. c1759
           1.10 María de las Nieves Muñoz de Xeres b. c1760

Hello, all!

I am hoping to get some help with the address in the following document, please.

page 242, record 5049.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPJ1-K36

record 5220.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPJ9-JN3

I can make out house 607.  It's the street name that I can't quite make out.  Calle 44 <Something> Hidalgo.

I'm hoping to locate the nearest parish to search for baptismal records for the children of Hilario Lopez and Angela Morales.

Thank you!

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939D-6898-7R?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AD15P-MK2M&action=view&lang=en&groupId=M9SH-MYZ 

is for a marriage of Gabriela Alvarez and her parents are listed as Jose Maria Alvarez (in the parenthesis I need help understanding, something like "quien ante mi presto el consentimierrto necesario) and Gertrudis Orozco. . . .

My Spanish is not sufficient to understand what the priest is saying within the parenthesis so any help understanding what is being said here would be very much appreciated.

thanks,

Joseph

My 3x great grandfather was named Juan Romo de Vivar. He owned a hacienda just outside the city of Aguascalientes around 1884 called Hacienda Agostaderito. He married Rafaela Velasco in Calvillo, Aguascalientes in October 1842. They had two sons that I know of -- Jose Ana Romo Velasco and Miguel Romo Velasco (my 2x great grandfather) who was born in Aguascalientes in 1845. The family story is that Miguel lost the hacienda to gambling debts in the 1890s.

I have tried for years to find out who Juan Romo de Vivar's parents were, with no success. Can anyone help me discover who my 4x great grandparents were? Thanks.

Dear all, 

While searching for the well-knowned couple Pedro Nieto and Josefa Corona from Pinos, I noticed that the archives of Bizkaia "Archivo Histórico Foral de Bizkaia" mentioned in their website having the following document : "Probanza de hidalguía y limpieza de sangre de Josefa Corona, hija de Cosme López y Catalina Corona, realizada en el año 1646 que incluye:
Privilegio Real dado por el Rey Carlos I a favor de Manuel Monje concediendo un escudo de armas por las labores desarrolladas en la conquista y pacificación de la ciudad de Méjico y de Nueva España." 

In the same link (https://apps.bizkaia.eus/ARIT/ARITSVisualizarFichaDocumento?seccion=8&e…), you can see that another document is mentioning "Josefa Corona, esposa de Pedro Nieto". 

The time and location matches with our Josefa Corona and I wondered if anyone had ever came accross this lead ? 

Kind regards, 

Tristan

on this page of family search: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-4VSW-LB?i=161&cc=1804458&lang=en

child is Je Bernabe of Blas Palacios and Prudencia Guerrero (right side first complete record)

I'm trying to figure out the Abuelo Paterno first name of . . .is it ???Hoquinto??? Palacios and Micaela Reyes (see the attached snip)

thanks,

Joseph

Hello!

I'm hoping someone here is familiar with the López de Lara, Ahumada/Aumada and Medina families of Lagos de Moreno circa 1570-1665 and/or can point me in the right direction for answers to the below questions.

I found the following baptism in parish register of Santa María de los Lagos:

Andrés, bt. 14 Oct 1615 in Lagos, son of Andrés de López and Isabel de Medina

Is Isabel de Medina (above) is the same person as doña Isabel de Medina (below)?

1. Antonio de Lepe (López?), son of doña Isabel de Medina
  m. doña Josepha de Ahumada/Aumada
    1.1 Francisco, bt. 14 Nov 1644 La Asunción, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico (madrina: Da Ysabel de Medina)
    1.2 María, bt. 14 Aug 1648 La Asunción, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico (madrina: "Doña Isabel de Medina Viuda, y madre de el dicho Antonio de Lepe")
    1.3 Francisca de Aumada, vecina de León (1673), y en Lagos (1676) en la casa de Antonia de Villegas (madre de Juan de Santoyo)
        m. 23 Jan 1673 in Lagos to Juan de Santoyo, bt. 2 Aug 1643 in Lagos.

• This seems to be the only Ahumada/Aumada family residing in Lagos at this time (1640s). Are they connected to the Ahumada family of Guadalajara?
• Is Andrés de Lópes (in the baptismal record above) connected to the family of Andrés de López de Lara (c1600-bef. 1650) of Lagos de Moreno? They cannot be the same man, but there seems to be a male named "Andres" in every generation of the López de Lara family of Lagos and León. Maybe related?
• Who is Isabel de Medina?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KW8C-F

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-WZ9F-VZ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-WZ9V-2D

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RT-B

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KRRM

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RZ-7

Quiro encontrar información de mi abuelito en lado de mi padre. Arnulfo Chavez Godinez, mi abuelito era regalado a un señor soltero que era conocido como Leon Casillas en la sierra cerca los otates, la troja, y la Sierra.

 Cuenta la historia que una pareja tenía dos hijos pequeños. El mayor murió joven (de 2 a 6 años). Entonces se llevaron al niño, mi abuelo "Arnulfo Chávez Godínez", y recorrieron los ranchos intentando dar al menor en adopción.

Un hombre soltero conocido como "Don León" o León Casillas adoptó a Arnulfo cuando tenía entre 3 días y 3 años.

Supuestamente, Don León era un hombre con una nariz grande y cicatrices de acné en el rostro.

Me gustaría encontrar más información en la familia que regaló a mi abuelito o en el señor que lo crió como su propio niño. 

Does anyone have a solid theory on the identity of Simón Báez, who married María de la Cerda [alias María de Balencuela?] probably sometime before Sep 1652?

Conjectured and proven children:

Nicolasa Báez de la Cerda b. c1653 probably in San Luis Potosí
Maria Báez b. 1653 in San Luis Potosí [may be the same person as sister Nicolasa Báez de la Cerda]
Simon Báez de la Cerda b. c1656 probably in Aguascalientes
Ygnacio Báez de la Cerna b. c1658 probably in Aguascalientes
Blasa Báez b. c1658? probably in Aguascalientes
Antonio Báez Lopes b. before 1659 probably in Aguascalientes (not proven)
Sebastiana Báez de la Cerda b 1659 in Aguascalientes

Simón Báez died in Aguascalientes and was buried 14 Dec 1659.

I lean toward one of two possibilities:

1. Simón Báez is the same person as the converso merchant Simón Báez de Sevilla, who was sentenced by the Inquisition to reconciliation in the 1649 auto-da-fé in Mexico City.
2. Simón Báez is the same person as Simón Enriques Báez of San Luis Potosí, nephew of the converso merchant Simón Báez de Sevilla. 

Household of María de la Cerda in the 1676 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos:

Rancho deel Potrerillo [21.268897, -101.862178]
Maria de la Serda Española, viuda ++ [María de la Cerda, widow of Simón Báez]
Anto de la Serda Español, viudo ++ [unproven son] 
Blasa de la Serda, Española, soltera ++ [daughter]
Ygnacio Baes, Español, soltero ++ [son]
Juan de Mendosa, Español, casado ++  Maria Ramos ++ [not sure]
Melchora de los Reyes ++ [mother of María de la Cerda and Nicolás de la Cerda? See below]
Ana Rodrigues, soltera ++
Sebastiana Ruiz ++
Domingo de Bonilla, soltero ++
Juan, Indio de 10 años +
Sebastian, Indio de 11 años +

Rancho de Castelongo [21.302221, -101.848539]
Francisco de Ysassi, Espanol, casado ++  Nicolaza Baes ++ [morisco son-in-law and daughter of María de la Cerda and Simón Báez]
Diego Hernandes, Indio, casado ++  Angelina Delacruz, India 
Theriza Rodrigues, India, soltera ++
Feliphe de la Cruz, Indio, soltero ++
Juan, Indio de 10 años +
Nicolas Hernandes, Indio de 10 años +

Is María de la Cerda a sister, or close relative, of Nicolás de la Cerda (c1630-1693), who married María de Bielma on 30 Sep 1652?

1. Nicolás's marriage record notes that his parents, Luis de la Serda and Melchora de los Reyes, are from San Gerónimo (Moctezuma in San Luis Potosí), not far from Mexquitic. In the 1653 baptismal record of her daughter María, María de Balencuela [alias de la Cerda?] is described as from "Mexquiteque."
2. In the 1676 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos, a Melchora de los Reyes is listed in the household of María de la Cerda. María de la Cerda would be between 40 and 50 years of age at that time so her mother could easily still be living.

Simón Báez and María de la Cerda are ancestors many times over. The family is descended from three of their children in different lines. DNA test results indicate the family has Ashkenazi and possible Sephardic ancestry. Other than perhaps Toribio Hernández de Arellano (ancestor x 2) and Bartolomé de Mesquita (also an ancestor many times over), there are no other likely converso ancestors to be found.

If anyone has theories or information about Simón Báez and María de la Cerda, I would like to hear from you.

Thank you,

Travis

I was contacted about a the below inactive .pdf Is there someone in the group that can supply me or this person with the correct file?

Buenos días, perdón que lo moleste.

Ví en la página de Nuestros Ranchos un enlace al pdf del libro Andariegos y pobladores: Nueva España y Nueva Galicia pero el enlace ya no sirve.

Usted tendrá el PDF?

Muchas gracias, le envío un saludo cordial.

thanks,

joseph

Hello everyone!

Does anyone know who Gerónima de Ornelas (widow) is?

Gerónima is noted in the household of Antonia de Villegas in the 1669 Padron of Lagos:

Casa de Antonia de Villegas mestissa [alias Mendoza b. before 1629, widow of Juan de Santoyo alias Pérez]
Geronima de Ornelas Viuda ++ [Unknown]
Antonio de Santoyo casado con ++ [son, alias Mendoza]
Melchora Basques mestissa ++ [daughter-in-law, alias de los Reyes]
Angelina Peres mestissa soltera ++ [daughter]
Ysidro de Santoyo + [grandson?]
Juan de Santoyo + [grandson]

I have not identified the location of this home, but it is somewhere south of Lagos; probably close to Los Jacales.

I cannot find any information about Gerónima de Ornelas, but Antonia de Villegas is an ancestor thrice over and two women with whom I believe she may be closely related are both also ancestors (María de Villegas alias de Rodas alias González b. c1630 who married Juan de Saavedra; and María de González alias de los Reyes b. c1610 who married Domingo de Espinosa alias Vasquez). So Gerónima's identity may be an important clue to our ancestry.

The Mendoza surname is repeatedly used by Antonia and her descendants, male and female, for successive generations leading me to believe there was some importance attached to it for them. Maybe Antonia de Villegas alias Mendoza is related to, or descended from, Álvaro de Ornelas and Isabel de Mendoza?

Any information or thoughts on this are welcome.

Thank you,

Travis

When everything is working right it is soooo easy to take the website for granted. But just let some little thing go wrong and suddenly those of us that appreciate the site for what it is are quickly brought back to reality. I guess what I'm trying to say is that one individual in the group is mainly responsible for keeping the sight humming along so nicely, Lee Ingram. Lee has donated countless (well I'm sure he could count them) hours to revive and act as the keeper of the NuestrosRanchos.org website. I so much appreciate you and your efforts Lee and saying THANK YOU doesn't feel like enough, but here goes anyway THANK YOU.

Joseph Puentes

Hola, everyone:

My name is Rian and I am currently researching my 10th great-grandfather, Andrés de ARAIZA. I believe he was born around 1635 and he married Micaela de YSASI/ISASSI around 1655. Their children are: Catalina de ARAIZA (1658-?) and Antonio de ARAIZA (1661-?), both of whom were born in Ahualulco de Mercado, Jalisco. Andrés de ARAIZA died 4 Jul 1662 in Ahualulco de Mercado, Jalisco. 

This WikiTree* says that Andrés de ARAIZA's parents were Juan de ARAIZA y MEDINA and María de las Islas, however I have not found any sources that support this.

*WikiTree: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Araiza-16

Has anyone come across my 10th great-grandfather, Andrés de ARAIZA, in their research and knows how he fits into the picture?

Siempre agradecido,

Rian R.

Hi everyone, 

I'm trying to read another document from Francisco de Covarrubias, but I can't make out what the highlighted words say. Could someone take a look and let me know what the highlighted words say? I really appreciate it. 

Researching possible relative Juan de Saavedra in 17^th century Lagos, and I ran across the de Saavedra y Guzman family, Basically, the below pedigree is cobbled from different sources. In some cases, I found this family group in online trees with the addition of my Juan de Saavedra and his wife Maria de Villegas:

PEDIGREE 1

1 Antonio de Saavedra Guzmán (Espanol) (c.1562-c.1620)

                m. Catalina de Villafañe y Alvarado

                1.1 Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (birth estimates range from c.1589/c.1590)

                                m. María de Monroy y Flores (birth estimates range from c.1590 to c.1633)

                                1.1.1 Juan de Saavedra (Espanol) (birth estimates range from c.1590 to b.1634 and most dates for death are c.1675)

                                                m. María de Villegas alias de Rodas alias Gonzales (Espanola/mestizo) (b.????)

                                                1.1.1.1 Ana Saavedra (b.1651)

                                                1.1.1.2 Ines Saavedra (b.1653)

                                                1.1.1.3 Juana Saavedra (b.1654)

                                                1.1.1.4 Josepha Saavedra (b.1660)

                                                1.1.1.5 María Saavedra (abt.1663?)

                                                1.1.1.6 Juan Saavedra (b.1664)

                                                1.1.1.7 Phelipe Saavedra (b.1664)

                                                1.1.1.8 Santiago Saavedra (b.????)

                                1.1.2 Isabel de Saavedra y Monroy (most online dates of birth are around c.1633)

                                m. Ines de Brenes y Mendoza (birth dates are again all over the map, usually c.1610 to c. 1622)

                                1.1.2 Isabel de Saavedra y Monroy (some pedigrees place Isabel as daughter of Ines de Brenes y Mendoza)

• There are many issues with this pedigree like the overly wide age gap between Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) and Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1), if it is adjusted to make more sense, then a large age gap forms between Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1) and Ana Saavedra (1.1.1.1).
• There is a documented relationship between Antonio de Saavedra Guzmán (1) and Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) but no verified date of birth for Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) and his wives.
• There is no documentation to support the relationship between Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) and my Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1). Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1) seemingly appears from nowhere.

The proven pedigree I researched below belongs to another Juan Saavedra. It is based upon this Juan de Saavedra's marriage record and the baptism record of his daughter, María:

PEDIGREE 2

A Juan de Saavedra (b.????)

Hello,

Thank you for allowing me to join this group. I am looking forward to learning from everyone here. I've been lurking for awhile now as a visitor reading public posts and am impressed by the knowledge and research of the members here.

Even though I've researched my Texas and American ancestors for a few years I'm a novice with Mexican genealogy. I have many questions and maybe a bit of original research to contribute, also. 

I am researching families primarily in Jalisco and Guanajuato that are spread out like a wide curved paintbrush stroke from Aquascalientes southeast across Encarnación de Díaz and Lagos de Moreno through León and ending around Silao.

Surnames include (bold type indicates special interest): Gómez/Gómes, Tavares/Tabares, Pacheco, Carillo, Mena, Beloso/Veloso/Velas, Villegas, López de Lara, Padilla/Padilla de Ávila, Mezquita/Amesquita, Araisa/Araysa/Araiza, Quirós, Días/Díaz, Abrego, Sánches/Sánchez, Almaguer, Yañez, Ojeda, Hernández Ñagas, Saavedra, Mendoza, Santoyo, Santos, San Joseph, Luna y Tapía, Amador, Hernández/Hernándes/Hernándes de Aguila, Lópes/López, Chavarria, Martínez/Martín, Flores, de la Cruz, de los Reyes, Zamores/Samores, de Silva/de Silba, Medina, Espitia, Lovato/Lobato, Ximénes/Giménes/Jiménes, Espinosa/Espinoza, Gonzáles/González, Alonzo, Ortiz de Parada, Moreno, Gonzáles de Ruvalcava, Gallardo, Rodas, Balderrama/Valderrama/Gauderrama, Beserra/Becerra, Carrillo, Romo/Romo de Vivar, Macías, Baladés/Valadés, Lomelín, Ruiz de Esparza/Ruis de Esparsa, de la Cerda, de la Cerna, López de la Cerda, Báez/Báes/Váez/Vaz, Ysassi/Isassi/Ysas/Isasi, Rodrígues/Rodríguez, Ponse/Ponce/Ponze, Gutiérrez, Torres, Garnica, Cardoza/Cardosa, Cardona, Zamarripa/Samarripa, Cortéz/Cortés, Pichardo and de la Mota.

With multiple lines of descent from the following couples in the 1600's and 1700's: 

• Simón Báez and María de la Cerda
• Juan Días Toribio and Ines de Abrego
• Bartholomé de Mesquita and Luisa de Torres
• d. Juan Christoval de Luna y Tapía and Beatris Ynes
• Capitán Martín Gabadi de Navarro and da. Petronila de Moctezuma
• Diego Becerra and María Días (alias María Hurtado)

Thanks again,

Travis

A new member (NA, T) asked if anyone in the group has, or is working on this. Also whether it would be good information to upload to the website (Not my area of research but I'd say YES, please do):

I am working on a transcription of the 1669 padron of the Villa de Santa María de los Lagos, with some genealogical notes on its individuals and family groups with some references to records (marriage, baptism and dispensas). I'm only on page 11 so far so it'll be awhile before I'm finished. Ultimately my intention is to cross-reference it with the 1676 padron. Also, I'm indexing the pueblos and ranchos in the 1808 padron (with brief notes on some ranches like chain of ownership, name changes, etc.). 

Joseph Puentes

ps: just in case if you all see any Puente/Puentes/De La Puente in any of those records or Diaz too please bring them to my attention.

Estimados compañeros,

¿Alguno de ustedes tiene información que lleve a la localizaión del origen de Rodrigo de Pinedo, residente en Jerez y marido de Catalina Cid Caldera?

Agradeceré enormemente cualquier información al frespecto.

Un cordial saludo,

hfaizcorbe

Does anyone have any information on Maria Velasco married to Geronimo Orosco in Aguascalientes in early 1600? Thanks for your help.

Hi,

Somewhere I read that El Carrizal was located near Ayo but maybe there were other ranches with the same name in other areas of Jalisco (that is what I find nowadays in modern maps).  Does any body know whether it still exists or whether it/they became a town/towns?

It is just curiosity to know in which areas my relatives lived, it is not a matter of going to look for information.

Thank you for your help.

Belinda

I have been doing major research online from home and my local Family History Center in an effort to ensure a more accurate ancestor tree on Family Search for the Ruiz de Esparza family that originated in the Pamplona, Spain area. I’m aware that back in 2016 there were discussions here about this family, but am sharing my experience in case there may be something new and also, in the hope someone here may be able to assist me with questions I’ve encountered. 

The most challenging issue, my main priority, was correcting the extra generation that resulted from the creation of a record for Lope Ruiz Esparza b. 1500 as the son of Lope Ruiz Esparaza Espinosa b. 1510 and Maria Caparroso b. 1533. This record presented Lope Ruiz Esparza b. 1500 as the husband of Anna Maria Díez de Eguino b. 1522 with their child Lope Ruiz de Esparza Diaz b. 1569 (who is the progenitor of the Ruiz de Esparza line in Aguascalientes, Mexico.) Obviously, the son could not have been born before the father and mother!

It was a complicated project to make the necessary corrections and I was very careful use Source documents each step of the way to ensure an accurate tree resulted with Lope Ruiz de Esparza Diaz b. 1569 being the son of Lope Ruiz Esparaza Espinosa b. 1510 and Anna Díez de Eguino b. 1522 who was mother of Lope (the younger) as the result of an additional relationship between Lope (the elder) and Anna Maria Diez de Equino. The birth years may, or may not be correct, as although there was Source documentation for the relationships, there were no specific birth years included. In some cases, there was explanation presented for the estimated years, in others there was none. Any insight, or documentation sources for birth years would be appreciated.

I read somewhere here that Lope Ruiz de Esparza Espinosa and Ana Maria Diaz de Eguino were not married. I located this reference on page 193 of Martin Leal’s Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, 5-3 Ruiz de Esparza 

 “Anna Díez de Eguinoa is a resident of the town of Raona in Mescoaslaalta; that Lope Ruiz de Esparza is publicly considered to be her natural son and that of Lope Ruiz de Esparza, the elder. That being free, single, and about to be married, she gave birth to the aforementioned Lope Ruiz de Esparza, the younger.”

This states they were “about to be married” so, they may or may not have ever been married, but it clearly confirms the parents of Lope Ruiz de Esparza b. 1659.

In the process of searching for the necessary Source documents I discovered the record below: 

1595 Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Isabel de Ascarraga against Juan de Espinal and Juana Salinas

Content: Lope Ruiz de Esparza, lawyer of the Royal Courts, and Isabel de Ascarraga, his wife, lords of the palaces of Esparza (Galar) and Zariquiegui, residents of Pamplona, ​​against Juan de Espinal and Juana de Salinas, his wife, residents of Pamplona, ​​regarding the scope of accounts of an arbitrary judgment in a lawsuit relating to the payment of interest on a census of 1,500 ducats subject to a house in the Pellejerias neighborhood of Pamplona.

This clearly states that in 1595 Isabel de Ascarraga was the wife of Lope Ruiz Esparza. This has to be Lope Ruiz Esparaza Espinosa (the elder) because there is another Source document that shows Lope Ruiz Esparaza (the younger) on a passenger list to the Indies in 1593. When I looked for the record of Isabel de Ascarraga I discovered that she is presented as the wife of Pedro Ruíz De Esparza y Caparroso b. 1551, son of Lope Ruiz Esparza Espinosa (the elder). 

Then I found this Source document:

1604 ISABEL DE ASCARRAGA vs. JUAN DE HUARTE AND OTHERS
Content: Isabel de Ascarraga, widow of Pedro Ruiz de Esparza, resident of Pamplona, ​​against Juan de Huarte, Barbara Ruiz de Esparza, his wife, and others, residents of Pamplona, ​​regarding the nullity of deeds of obligation and debt contracted by her husband.

It appears that Isabel was the widow of Pedro Ruiz Esparza in 1604, but at the time of the earlier 1595 court action, she was married to his father Lope Ruiz Esparza (Espinosa). Initially it seemed that her husband Pedro must have passed that year, or prior, in order for her to be remarried in 1595.  I also noted that there were numerous court actions against Pedro by siblings and family members for debt he owed. This explains why Isabel was requesting that her deceased husband’s debt be forgiven in 1604.  

Hello I'm a new member. My family is from Zacatecas Mexico. I'm am looking for information on my paternal line. Juan Estrada was born in 1831 to Luisa Ramíres. His father is unknown and he died in Zacatecas Mexico on May 8th, 1863. I was just wondering were the Estrada last name came from because I thought at that time children took the mother's last name. So I am just a little confused about where the Estrada last name came from.