Member's Profiles

Alicia:

I can't seem to figure out where the profiles section is.  Can you be 
a little more explicit as to how to go about changing this?

Joseph:

How much storage space are you using now with all of the Ranchos 
groups and briefcase combined?  How many members are there?  Is 
anybody storing anything more sophisticated than their GEDCOM data 
that they are then transmitting in various formats (Word, PDF, etc.)

Check out my family website (I will send you the link in an email) 
and see if you think this might be a possible alternative, where 
people could upload their GEDCOM files (minus living individuals) and 
we can simply restrict access completely to members.  In addition, we 
could use the bulletin board there in lieu of this group and people 
can sign up for more specific areas of interest to receive email 
notification, i.e. by specific geography or topic of posting, etc.

We could probably host a site like this for $10-$20 a month if the 
database is not too big.



--- In

Fwd: Matrimonios, Religiosos, Civiles, Jerez, identidad e historia, de Jerez Zacatec

If unable to log on, please try the below website.


http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/matrimonios.htm

--- Alberto Duarte  wrote:

> FYI:
> For those members researching family names from
> Jerez,
> Zacatecas, this website has marriage records going
> back to the early 1700s.
> 
> Alberto Duarte
> Santa Maria, California
> 
> Note: forwarded message attached.
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com > Subject: Matrimonios,
Religiosos, Civiles, Jerez,
> identidad e historia, de Jerez Zacatec
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:37:14 -0700
> From: "Duarte, Albert" 
> To: 
> 
>  
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> Alojamiento ofrecido por el Grupo HispaVista
> HispaVista
> http://www.hispavista.com> 
> Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1731
>
http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731

Fwd: Matrimonios, Religiosos, Civiles, Jerez, identidad e historia, de Jerez Zacatec

FYI:
For those members researching family names from Jerez,
Zacatecas, this website has marriage records going
back to the early 1700s.

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

Note: forwarded message attached.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
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________________________________

Alojamiento ofrecido por el Grupo HispaVista HispaVista
http://www.hispavista.com> 
Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1731
http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731-13751.htm> 	
Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1732
http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731-1375.htm> 	
Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año:
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2nd DRAFT

Joseph:

I have fixed some spelling errors (mostly missing accents) and changed
 the wording somewhat to take out Anglicisms, etc. and use more
conventional Spanish idioms and vocabulary:

Gracias por su interés en hacerse miembro del grupo Ranchos
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/).  El grupo Ranchos es un
pequeño pero dedicado grupo de investigadores serios.  Lo siguiente es
una descripción del grupo:
"Este grupo es para personas que activamente buscan sus raíces
mexicanas.  El objetivo de este grupo cibernético es para poner en
contacto genealogistas serios que tienen raíces en Jalisco, Zacatecas,
y Aguascalientes, y así facilitar las investigaciones genealógicas de
los miembros.  La intención, pero nunca la regla, es permanecer
enfocados en los ranchos de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.
Nuestra definición de "rancho" es la siguiente: "un agrupamiento de
habitantes al nivel más pequeño, que corresponde a una comunidad o
vecindario".  Si usted es un investigador serio, o

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

color=#0000ff size=2>Good advice.  I found some of my wayward relatives in
San Miguel...

color=#0000ff size=2>Irma





From: jjetmech01@...
[mailto:jjetmech01@...]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:22
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Special request for data from Jalostotitlan


FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">Have you tried records for San Miguel el
Alto?

Info


face=Arial>We
had problems with our server.  It's fixed now (I think) and my email is the
one below again.


class=923092614-18072005>My apologies.


class=923092614-18072005>

class=923092614-18072005>

size=2>Irma





From: lrapido [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday,
July 17, 2005 12:41 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[ranchos] Info


Message for Irma Gomez Lucero:

I sent you an Email to:
igomezlucero@... but it was returned.

Do you have a different Email
address where I can contact you?

John Gonzalez

1gnzlz@...



Member's Profiles

Alicia you have found the magic solution to my frustration. . .a way
for everyone to be in complete control. Either building your own
website with your genealogical data on it or putting it online at one
of the many locations where you can submit your data.



thanks,



joseph



ps: oh, and yes . . .it is a good idea to fill in your profile. Go and
see mine if you want an example of what is meant. You have have to take
a few minutes and fill in some data. {I guess the only problem is that
that profile goes with you to every group in the Yahoo system and for
their email as well}.





Alicia Carrillo wrote:

Joseph,
 
I have recently been perusing the members' profiles and noticed
that there are many people who have blank profiles. The profiles
section allows us to post some favorite links, a little about each of
us, one photograph and a favorite quote, it even entices you to create
a free web page via yahoo/geocities.com. Even I the clumsy non-techy
person was able to create a

Member's Profiles

Joseph,
 
I have recently been perusing the members' profiles and noticed that there are many people who have blank profiles. The profiles section allows us to post some favorite links, a little about each of us, one photograph and a favorite quote, it even entices you to create a free web page via yahoo/geocities.com. Even I the clumsy non-techy person was able to create a very simple page. I would encourage others to do the same and while I like the who's who I think we should also take the time to fill out the member profiles.
 
I am slowly but surely advancing in my research and would be willing to put a link to my homepage with some of my geneaological data once I submit it. I realize that it would be public and not private but I would not be putting any data for living family members.
 
 
Alicia
 


Joseph Puentes wrote:



Pacorro73@... wrote:


  I look forward to checking out any of your submissions to the files section of Ranchos, if Joseph allows it.

I do! In fact I

Joseph's Soapbox: was-Introduction





Pacorro73@... wrote:


  I look forward to checking out any of your submissions to the
files section of Ranchos, if Joseph allows it.

I do! In fact I allow every member (that's the requirement for members
only). . .I allow each and every member to go to the files and links
areas of the group and look into (thoroughly study is more like it) the
individual folders and links to personal webpages of each other in
search of more family connections.



I do. . .in fact I'm a firm believer that the words "I do" are too
tame. When my wife and I got married in 1995 the justice of the peace
said "do you Joseph take Figen to be your lawfully wedded wife?" my
reply was not "I do", but rather "Absolutely without a doubt."



Yes the files and links are open and will continue to be open to all
members of the group without restriction. The only restriction is in
the modification of the files that are in currently submitted. The
reason there is a restriction is because I am doing all

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

Hello Ranchos,
 
I am currently researching the ancestry of one of many alteño saints, Santo Toribio Romo, who was born on 16 April 1900, in Santa Ana, Jalostotitlan.  His parents were Patricio Romo and Juana Gonzalez, who were married in Jalos on 3 June 1885.
 
I have run into a few dead ends in two of Santo Toribio's ancestral lines.  It's not that the records are not available, I just don't have them in my indefinite collection of films at my local family history center. 
 
My hope is that my Ranchos cousins from Los Altos can help me out.  So this goes out to Irma Gomez Lucero, Maria E. Sanchez de Cortez, Felipe Hermosillo, John Gonzalez, Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg, and new member, Connie Dominguez.
 
Can anyone out there please search their microfilms and get the following records for me please.
 
My first request is for the baptism records of Atanacio Muñoz and Vicenta Ramirez.  I have not yet identified their parents, and there is no mention of their marriage record in the

Introduction

Hi Connie,
 
Welcome to Ranchos prima.  This is your cousin Steven F. Hernandez.  I trust your genealogical research is continuing at a healthy pace.  Have you been doing any work in Aguascalientes with our Muñoz de Nava, Ruiz de Esparza, Romo de Vivar, and other ancestors and descendant family?  I look forward to checking out any of your submissions to the files section of Ranchos, if Joseph allows it.  I'm sure your Ranchos cousins will appreciate it, such as Irma Gomez Lucero, Maria E. Sanchez de Cortez, Felipe Hermosillo, John Gonzalez, Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg, and a few other alteños on Ranchos. We are all related to one another, and to you Connie.
 
As a side note, you should consider turning in something to the next SHHAR Genealogical Journal, Vol. 6.  I am currently in the process of editing the journal and accepting articles and submissions.  Maybe something on your research in Aguascalientes, Jalisco, or Zacatecas.  But, if you have any northern Mexico research, I

Gonzales, Gtz, Perez, Franco, etc.,

Hi Irma:

 

Possibly the reason you didn't find  a
connection to a  my "Cornejo"  might be becuase my grandmother wasn't
from Jalos, she was from San Juan de Los Lagos.

I just found that out last friday, talking to my
cousin who lives in Yucaipa.

 

John Gonzalez

Wildomar, CA



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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
href="mailto:gomezluceroi@...">Irma GomezLucero


Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:08
AM

Subject: RE: [ranchos] Gonzales, Gtz,
Perez, Franco, etc.,



color=#0000ff size=2>Hi John,

   


color=#0000ff size=2>Of the Jalos surnames you mentioned, the only surname I
don't have is Cornejo, but I know two Jalos families with that surname who
live in a nearby town in Northern Calif.  Two brothers of which one 
married a Gonzales and the other married a Gutierrez of
course.    I am distantly related to the wives. 
 :)

Info

Message for Irma Gomez Lucero:

I sent you an Email to: igomezlucero@... but it was returned.

Do you have a different Email address where I can contact you?

John Gonzalez

1gnzlz@... 



Digest Number 549

Hi, Josie,

Unfortunately, I haven't anything on Severiana other than she might be the sister of Gregoria Salcedo and they're from Jerez. don't know their parents names or anything.:( What about your Salcedo line? What can you share about the Salcedos? Marge:)

On Jul 16, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Josie T. Trevino wrote:


Hi Margie!



I just read your message to Connie (below) and noticed that you mention a

couple by the name of Prudencio Gonzalez & Severiana Salcedo from Jerez.  I

am researching the SALCEDO line but do not have much on it.  What I do have

is in the 1700s in Saltillo, Coah......do you have anything like this?

Thanks!



Josie in San Antonio, TX







Message: 7        

   Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:00:42 -0500

   From: Margarita Vallazza

Subject: Re: Introduction



Somewhat, Connie, I think we had determined that we MIGHT be related

but not sure.



My Cenobio was born in 1846 in Jerez.  His parents were Prudencio

Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. 

Digest Number 549

 
Hi Margie!

I just read your message to Connie (below) and noticed that you mention a
couple by the name of Prudencio Gonzalez & Severiana Salcedo from Jerez.  I
am researching the SALCEDO line but do not have much on it.  What I do have
is in the 1700s in Saltillo, Coah......do you have anything like this?
Thanks!

Josie in San Antonio, TX



Message: 7         
   Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:00:42 -0500
   From: Margarita Vallazza 
Subject: Re: Introduction

Somewhat, Connie, I think we had determined that we MIGHT be related 
but not sure.

My Cenobio was born in 1846 in Jerez.  His parents were Prudencio 
Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo.  Cenobio's first wife was Ma. Eleuteria 
Tobar born in 1849 in Jerez (I think, her siblings were born in 
Tlatenango de Sanchez Roman).  Her parents were Mauricio Tobar and Ma. 
Petra Escobedo Sandobal. They were from Tlatenango originally.  Cenobio 
and Eleuteria had 3 children that I know of--Josefa, Candelaria, and 
Jesus

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FW: [ranchos] Gonzales, Gtz, Perez, Franco, etc.,


 
Hi John & Ranchos Group,
 
    Lets start another Fiesta   ......   My dad makes the best
carnitas! 
 
    I see a connection already, but on the Gtz
side.  Pedro Gtz' parents were Florentino de San Miguel Gtz & Maria
Francisca Romo (who ties into the Romos of Santa Ana). 
 
Your Pedro Gtz was brother to my GG Grandfather
Dionicio Gtz.  You have another prima in Ranchos, but I'll let her
introduce herself. 
 
I also have a
connection via Antonia Franco. 
 
I'll email you privately with the rest, and spare the rest.  I have
a little on your Gonz.,  Maybe if I give you a little more info, we'll
figure them out too. 
 
Irma


From: John Gonzalez [mailto:1gnzlz@...]

Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:26 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Gonzales, Gtz, Perez,
Franco, etc.,

 
 
 
Irma:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Irma:
 
Thank you for the information, but I don't
see any connections yet...Maybe later as I keep finding more relatives. 
Let me give you  a quick run

Introduction

Somewhat, Connie, I think we had determined that we MIGHT be related but not sure.



My Cenobio was born in 1846 in Jerez. His parents were Prudencio Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. Cenobio's first wife was Ma. Eleuteria Tobar born in 1849 in Jerez (I think, her siblings were born in Tlatenango de Sanchez Roman). Her parents were Mauricio Tobar and Ma. Petra Escobedo Sandobal. They were from Tlatenango originally. Cenobio and Eleuteria had 3 children that I know of--Josefa, Candelaria, and Jesus Gonzalez. Cenobio was widowed around 1878 or 79.



I don't know when my great-grandparents married--I do know that he was a LOT older than his second wife--he and his first wife had kids that were the age of his second wife and her siblings. Anyway, he married Ma. Francisca Saldivar and had Paula, Ma. Altagracia, Matteo, Francisco, Juan, Sarah,and Jose. That's the scoop so far. I have details on Eleuteria's siblings...such as their names. Marge:)

On Jul 15, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Connie

My Tio en Jerez

Thank you for the invitation.  I'll let you know for
sure early this coming week.  

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> Alberto,
> 
> I would like to invite you to the Roman Diaz reunion
> in Long Beach on 
> Aug 6th and 7th. My Tio Alberto is suppose to be
> there. Is this 
> something you'd be interested in?
> 
> I can also ask my cousin who is not in the group if
> she knows any 
> Durantes who might have married her Roman relatives.
> 
> joseph
> 
> Margarita Vallazza wrote:
> 
> > Don't wait for some day, Everybody. The folks we
> need to interview 
> > might not be there some day when we decide that
> some day has come. 
> > Marge:) 
> 
> Tio Alberto is in his late 70's.
> 
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:
> >
> >     Your uncle probably knows many of my
> relatives, since
> >     some of the Duartes were married to the
> Puentes and
> >     Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your
> uncle some
> >     day

Introduction

Hi again!

 

Marge, I did go through your files…and was
caught by the one on Altagracia Gonzalez. Do you have
any info on Cenobio Gonzalez’s extended family? 

 

Thanks,

 

Connie

 

Connie Dominguez

10537 Candlewood Dr.

El Paso, TX  79925

(915) 799-6036

cdominguez10@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: ranchos@...m
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Margarita Vallazza

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:36
AM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Introduction

 

Welcome, Connie! Go have a look at my information in
the archive files. Some of it might connect with your family. Marge Vallazza:)



On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Consuelo Dominguez wrote:

Hello all!



My name is
Connie Dominguez and I've just joined the Ranchos Groups. I


look forward
to learning a lot and sharing whenever I can.  I have


compiled a
lot of information over the past 9 years since I embarked


on this
journey...so much so that I can't keep a good handle on it.


Recently

My Tio en Jerez

I recently visited my Tia Maria who is 93 years young and had a great time listening to her as she shared her pictures and stories. I took my small recorded and just listened and asked questions as we viewed picture by picture.  My cousin helped scan each photo and tried naming each pic as we went along for about three hours. I know my Tia won't be with us for too much longer and I sure am thankful for her patience and generosity.  I have tried visiting in person or by phone with my older relatives and believe me they love the company and the attention.  So don't hesitate, JUST DO IT
 
Yolanda Medina Perez
El Paso, Tx.

Alberto Duarte wrote:

Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives, since
some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes and
Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your uncle some
day.

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone is
> going there for a
> visit let me know maybe

Alberto---un Favor/My Tio en Jerez

Alberto,

I've been very negligent in looking in your folder. Or possibly you
entered some things there and didn't sent out a notice to the group. no
matter. What i need is a favor from you. I see you are using Family Tree
Maker is that correct? Well I need for you to make up two "Genealogy
Reports" one for Fernando Durante and one for Francisco Prieto that
would be the same report for your trees. These trees are very difficult
for me to follow and I think the "Genealogy Report" would better
represent your family in "addition" to your "Tree chart". can you do
this for me? After sending me those files and any other representative
files you'd like to submit I will remove your .FTW file because thos
that don't have Family Tree Maker won't be able to access it. I want all
the files to be available to all persons regardless of their software.
That is almost impossible to do but most folks do have Word on their
computers and that in my opinion is the closest I can get.


let me

My Tio en Jerez

Alberto,



I would like to invite you to the Roman Diaz reunion in Long Beach on
Aug 6th and 7th. My Tio Alberto is suppose to be there. Is this
something you'd be interested in?



I can also ask my cousin who is not in the group if she knows any
Durantes who might have married her Roman relatives.



joseph



Margarita Vallazza wrote:

Don't wait for
some day, Everybody. The folks we need to interview
might not be there some day when we decide that some day has come.
Marge:)

Tio Alberto is in his late 70's.



On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:



Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives, since


some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes and


Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your uncle some


day.




Alberto Duarte


Santa Maria, California




--- Joseph Puentes wrote:




>


> My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone is


> going there for a

My Tio en Jerez

Very true. 

I'm planning to go to Jerez before July 2006. Sorry to
say, but many of my uncles and aunts are passing away

Alberto Duarte

--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> Don't wait for some day, Everybody.  The folks we
> need to interview 
> might not be there some day when we decide that some
> day has come.  
> Marge:)
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:
> 
> > Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives,
> since
> >  some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes
> and
> >  Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your
> uncle some
> >  day.
> >
> >  Alberto Duarte
> >  Santa Maria, California
> >
> >  --- Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> >
> >  >
> >  > My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone
> is
> >  > going there for a
> >  > visit let me know maybe you can meet him. He is
> a
> >  > retired priest and
> >  > might be able to open doors that might
> otherwise be
> >  > closed.
> >  >
> >  > thanks,
> >  >
> >  > joseph
> >  >
>