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> hola,
Navegando por los registros de matrimonios de Tecolotlan, Jalisco. encontré
un indice, donde veo muchos nombres conocidos, espero les sirva
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-10600-67?cc=1874591&wc…
Posted today at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
Now posted: 1801-1822 FHL Source Film 168663
Nuevo archivo: 1801-1822 rollo OAH 3180
Happy New Year to all Nuestros Ranchos Researchers.
I am excited that I will be traveling to Mexico in March
and was hoping to do some research on the family of
Dr. Jesus Sanchez Guerrero, born in Guadalajara in 1874 and his son,
Dr. Francisco Sanchez Flores, who was born in Tlajomulco in 1910.
Unfortunately, my traveling companion now thinks it would
be too dangerous for two women to go to Tlajomulco alone, so I hope
NR members can let me know if this would be unsafe for us to do. Here
in the US we hear much about the drug cartel violence but I haven't
heard of problems in this particular area. If we stay in Guadalajara,
can anyone suggest which resources would be best to seek out in my
limited time of 5 days in Guadalajara. Also, Can you tell me what the
best way would be to travel from Guadalajara and how long it would take
to get to Tlajomulco?
I would appreciate any advice and/or guidance you can give me.
When things get hectic, I tend to let several days worth of postings go unread until I make the time to go back and read them. Consequently, I always seem to find many entries of great interest. I must admit, however, that I often only skim the postings that are in Spanish because of my impatience with my facility in the language.
I have been following some of the comments of new researchers, and I have a question for the new researchers:
Quick - HOW MANY great-great grandparents do you have? No counting on fingers. This is a number you should know in order to see the whole picture of your family. Understanding this number helps you plan how to proceed in your research.
I have yet to find all the great grand-parents of my father, Jose de Jesus Garcia/Castro (Garcia was surname at Baptism; Castro was surname at death. Surname changed at time of immigration to U.S.), who by the way, would have celebrated his 100th birthday on Jan 13.
Back to my stall in research - sometimes life gets in the way.
I am grateful for all the stalwart researchers who continue the hunt; your postings are inspiring, and I hope to be able to resume researching sometime this year.
One line I am researching is the DUENAS (tilde over the N) family, who lived in the Valparaiso district of Zacatecas (Hacienda del Astillero [1912], Hcda San Mateo [1887], Hcda San Miguel [1889] ), and also in Sombrete (marriage doc dated 1853).
Research records are in the "Files" section of NR. Does anyone else have a DUENAS connection?
Blessings to all in this new year.
Natalie Castro Coleman,
in Virginia
Claudia, creo que tu comentario, abarca el verdadero proposito de N.R. Sin egoismos, y sin echarle mil candados a nuestra informacion ya investigada.
Con mucho respeto para el grupo en general.
--- On Wed, 1/18/12, claudiacasillas@gmail.com wrote:
> From: claudiacasillas@gmail.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Piracy?
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 6:11 PM
> We are living in the information age.
> All of us researchers must face the fact that any
> information we uncover does not belong to us (the
> researcher). While we may currently have documents or
> information no one else has--that same information will soon
> be made available to the masses one way or another. I
> wholeheartedly agree that we should give credit where credit
> is due; if someone took the time and effort to uncover
> something that has helped your search--THANK AND ACKNOWLEDGE
> THEM. But I also think that the "hoarding" mentality is
> counterproductive to our research and legacy.
>
> Think about how many "ahas" happen here when someone shares
> a bit of the puzzle...and then someone else shares their own
> little bit of the puzzle...then (and we've seen this), a
> whole landscape has been painted by our collective
> work. We should face it, we don't own anything
> individually--we own it collectively because it is our
> heritage. Not "mine," but "ours."
> How high would your documented family tree look right now
> if the LDS hoarded the microfilms? Yes, they charged in the
> past to cover operating costs (I suppose), but now they are
> FREE to all of us. How would you feel if they shut down
> FamilySearch and decide only "certain people" can have
> access? Let's work together for the greater good and
> leave a real and lasting legacy for generations to come.
>
> My two cents.
>
>
> Saludos,
> Claudia
> www.guadalajaradispensas.com
> www.sagradamitra.com
Los molesto con la liga de el estado de Aguascalientes.
Thank you so much to: Linda, Mickey, Angelina, Alicia, Raquel
& Veronica for your advice and recommendations for hotels
in the Guadalajara area. I am especially grateful to
Veronica who lives near Tlajomulco and volunteered guidance
in my search.
Dr. Francisco Sanchez Flores, born in Tlajomulco in 1910, was
known as "Pancho Panelas" in the mariachi & folkloric dance world.
He was also a noted painter of indigenous art and I believe has artwork
in exhibition in the Regional Museum in Guadalajara. I would love to
visit a cultural center named after him in Tlajomulco, as well as a
school. Maybe Veronica could find their locations for me as it would
be very exciting to see them. As mentioned, just walking the same
streets as did our ancestors is a very spiritual, special feeling, which
I experienced when I went to El Paso in search of my cousin. With the
help of this wonderful group, my trip should be very productive.
Thanks to you all - Nancy
Estimado Guillermo y Enrique
Hace días encontré que Diego de Acevedo Carvajal y Ulloa marido de Micaela de Cobián fue bautizado 1 de febrero de 1667 en Agnamacutiro de la Unión, Michoacán. Luego casó el 28 de mayo de 1711 con Micaela de Cobián y Villaseñor (Rincón). Su hermano, Joseph Miguel de Acevedo Carvajal y Ulloa casó Rosa de Villaseñor y Cervantes el 11 de septiembre de 1707 en Tamazula. Era hija de Juan Urbano de Villaseñor y Cervantes y Josefa Candelas y Cervantes. Esta Josefa fue bautizada en Agnamacutiro de la Unión el 6 de mayo de 1663 hija de Juan Candelas y Tomasina de Cervantes.
No tendrán idea el origen de los Acevedo Carvajal? El Diego quien casó a Francisca de Villaseñor era de la ciudad de México hijo de Diego de Acevedo Carvajal y María de Tovar y Ulloa. Estos bautizaron a otro hijo en Asunción, Ciudad de México, Luis de Acevedo Carvajal y Ulloa el 20 de septiembre de 1630. Este último Diego debería nacer ca. 1600 y tuvo un hermano llamado Luis de Acevedo Carvajal quien casó a María de Ledesma. Diego y Luis son nombre repetidos en las dos generaciones. No tengo la menor idea quien son sus padres, probable un Acevedo y una Carvajal.
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Alguien sabe el origen de esta Josefa Ruíz de Esparza quien casó a Domingo Ruíz de la Fuente? Ella falleció el 22 de junio de 1668 en Aguascalientes. Calculé más o menos y sería una nieta de Lope Ruíz de Esparza o hija que no hemos comprobado?
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Aver si alguien que ha investigado por ahí me puede ayudar en esta búsqueda. Hace días entronqué con estos López de Castro. Tienen ramas en Aguascalientes, Ciénega de Mata, Teocaltiche y Guadalajara. Busco datos adicionales sobre unas de mis líneas en Guadalajara. Resulta que mis noveno bisabuelos, Bartolomé López de Castro y Luisa Jácome de Tovar casaron el 23 de agosto de 1703 en Guadalajara. Este era hijo de Bartolomé López de Castro y Francisca Maldonado de Saavedra. Luisa era hija de Pedro Jácome de Tovar y Regina Ladrón de Guevara y López Portillo. La única pista de suerte es que el párroco menciona los apellidos maternos en la partida matrimonial.
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Hello Nuestros Rancheros,
I thought I would pass along a link to a website that some of you may be interested in for ordering handmade folklorico dolls. http://misreinas.com
Best regards,
Monica
Does anyone know if the Mexico, Catholic Church records on Familysearch is down? I was on it earlier, but now can't seem to get back on neither on Explorer or Firefox.
Thanks so much, Alice
Hola a todos:
Les quisiera pedir ayuda acerca de uno de mis antepasados de San Luis Potosí, sé que no es el área de estudio de este foro, pero espero alguien pueda de casualidad tener un dato o idea por ahí.
Hace días descubrí que uno de mis antepasados se llamaba Francisco de la Torre y Castilla, estaba casado con María de Castro, ellos tuvieron dos o hijos más de los cuales, Luis de la Torre y Castilla estuvo casado con María de San Juan de Rocha y otro Ignacio de la Torre y Castilla casado con Antonia Del Castillo y Quesada, el 15 de Febrero de 1706 en Armadillo de los Infante, SLP. en esta acta dice que su madre María de Castro reside en la Ciudad de San Luis Potosí y su padre ya estaba difunto.
¿Alguno de ustedes sabe de donde podría venir el apellido Castilla? Era un apellido de mucha importancia en aquellos tiempos, espero alguno pueda resolverme la duda.
Gracias de antemano,
Enrique Agraz
It sounds like he was the one who registered her as his daughter and gave him her last name. This often ocurrs when two people live together, though not marry still recognizes his natural child. Most times when this would not occur, it would list the mother and padre desconocido. I recently learned that another reason for marriages when mentioned was "de padres no conocidos" was because the person refused to identify their parents so they would not have to go through the dispensastion process, etc especially when consanguinity was obvious.
Daniel Mendez de Torres Camino
New Year's greetings to all. I would like to ask for a clarification of the marriage reord: Aguascalientes Church Records, Sagrario, Matrimonios 1817-1819, image 132, for Olayo Medrano and Dolores Gascon. Thanks in advance! Raymond Medrano, Houston
I subscribe to a newsletter from Replacements.com, and recently they had an article about antique chocolate pots, and it included the history of chocolate. I was intrigued by a recipe they included:
"the original cocoa beverage comes from the Mayans and Aztecs, and was often a mixture of ground cocoa beans, water, wine, and peppers. It did not take long for the Spaniards to begin heating this blend and sweetening it with sugar to suit their tastes".
"the first published recipe for a chocolate drink was published in Spain---"A Curious Treatise of the Nature of Quality of Chocolate" by Antonio Colmenero de Ledesma in 1644. The recipe called for 100 cacao beans, 2 chiles, a handful of anise, "Ear Flower", one vanilla pod, 2 ounces of cinnamon, twelve almonds or hazelnuts, one pound of sugar, and Achiote (annatto seeds to color the drink) to taste. All of these ingredients were boiled together and then frothed with a molinillo, a traditional Aztec carved wooden tool".
Up here in the Northwest where I live, it is especially cold in the winter, so I enjoy a cup of Mexican hot chocolate, but I don't follow the recipe above which sounds labor-intensive with all that grinding, finding and purchasing of several exotic ingredients, etc. (what in the world is "ear flower"?). I find it convenient to just buy the tablets of Ibarra brand manufactured at the Chocolatera de Jalisco in Guadalajara. All it contains is sugar, cocoa, and cinnamon. Some of my cousins prefer the Abuelita brand, but I bet that old Spanosh recipe made by scratch would be wonderful (except for maybe the chiles in it---some Kahlua would be better).
I recall my mother making hot Mexican chocolate and using one of those wooden molinillos which was just a stick with a bulbous end with wooden rings around the bottom. She would rub the stick between her palms to froth the drink. I often wonder what happened to that little molinillo.
Emilie
Port Orchard, Washington
i want to know where my last name armas came from it's origin?
Iv'e been trying to read this document for the past 2 hours and only found 10 words with help of my mom.So it would be awesome if some one can please translate this document for.
Document 363 page 322 LA Jabonera Felipe Armas Leonarda Lozano
link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15697-37801-59?cc=1410092&wc…
Hello primos y primas:
I have created a new "Coming Soon" page at guadalajaradispensas.com that lists the films currently being worked on or edited. I think it will help everyone know where the project stands and we don't duplicate efforts. Feel free to PM me if you have questions or comments.
Have a great weekend!
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Saludos primos y primas:
Hoy puse una nueva pagina llamada "Coming Soon" en el blog de guadalajaradispensas.com que identifica los films que se estan trabajando actualmente. Espero nos ayude para que no dupliquemos nuestro trabajo. Si tienen alguna pregunta o comentario, favor de mandarme un mensaje privado.
Que tengan un buen fin de semana!
Hola! Envío revisión de las dispensas de archivo de Diocesis de Guadalajara: 1797 Film 168097 / OAH-2435. Espero mi querida Claudia Reynoso las incluya en su archivo que muy amablemente comparte.
Buscaba matrimonio de JOSE MARIA ELIZALDE Y PAULINA UGALDE. Tengo su matrimonio (10 de mayo 1797), pero no encuentro su información matrimonial que me ayudaría a llegar a los padres de Jose Maria.
Does anyone know what a manda is? I know its after they pass away but what exactly is it written up in the church for?? here is a link to my document for your viewing. It is the first record, Alonzo garcia hijo de Villalpando.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/1traviesa/alonzovillal.jpg
thank you
Amalia Hernandez Arias
I have come against a brick wall with the Vallarta Family from Hostotipaquillo, Jalisco.
I am trying to find the ancestors of Dimas Vallarta, who may be the son of Rafael Vallarta and Maria Michaela Palacio.
Dimas (son of Rafael and Ma. Michaela) had a hija natural by Sebastiana Olmeda, Genoveva, baptized 3 Jan 1843; he also had two more children by Manuela Alba, Maria Juana Guadelupe (bapt 13 Jun 1853) and Maria Lina (bapt 24 Sep 1854).
I believe this same Dimas had a son, Siriaco born abt 1856/61, with spouse Bibiana Guevarra. I do not know if they were married.
Siriaco married Jacinta Coronel, date unknown, and had at least six children baptized in Hostotipaquillo between 1881 and 1902.
There is an upper class Vallarta family in Hostotipaquillo, who are usually named as Don/Dona in the records, but I am unable to place neither Dimas nor Rafael in this family. None of the few references I have found refer to Dimas or his father, Rafael, as Don. Thus, I suspect this is a different family.
Any help would be appreciated.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
Could anyone please tell me whether Lino is a first name or a nickname?
I have an ancestor named Lino Monrreal early to mid 1800's in Aguascalientes. I haven't found any reference to any other first name, like maybe Marcelino? It's always only Lino Monrreal. Thank you so much for your help. Alice Blake
Queridos amigos,
Al iniciar este año 2012 deseamos que se logren sus propositos y metas. Que las bendiciones de Dios esten siempre derramandose en Ustedes y sus seres queridos.
Estamos relanzando nuestros servicios de venta de material genealogico el cual estamos "subiendo" diariamente a http://www.Genealogia.org.mx/tienda
Ademas si deseas llamarnos GRATUITAMENTE desde CUALQUIER PARTE DEL MUNDO puedes hacerlo usando SKYPE que es un software gratuito y marcando a GENEALOGIA.ORG.MX (agregas el usuario y hasta podemos chatear usando webcam, si tu no tienes no importa TU PODRAS VERNOS)
(desde mi SmartPhone)
Benicio Samuel Sanchez
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Email: samuelsanchez@genealogia.org.mx
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Saludos afectuosos a todos,
Quisiera preguntar a los miembros de NR si alguno de ustedes desciende de alguno de los siguientes matrimonios:
JUAN CASILLAS y CLEMENCIA FLORES, casados el 12 de Febrero de 1714 en Jalostotitlan,
o de JUAN CASILLAS y JUANA MARIA VALDIVIA, casados el 23 de Junio de 1726 en Jalostotitlan.
Gracias a todos!
Ricardo
