Letters from Jaime Holcome

I just ran across some documents attributed to letters from the late Jaime Holcombe. One of the documents has some very valuable information regarding one of my lineages (a very important one because I have five lines going back to these people). I know that Jaime Holcombe passed away some years back but I am wondering if anyone is familiar with his work, would know where to get authoratative copies of it (perhaps with sources) as well as if there is an official repositor of his research that I could contact?

The issue I am looking at is the connection between the descendants of Francisco Escobedo, founder of Monte Escobedo and a certain Isabel de Rodas or Isabel de Covarrubias who married a Captain Jacinto Talamantes circa 1630 probably in Zacatecas.

DC meeting, summer 2007

Well, I will go out on a limb here, and offer a pot of frijoles and
arroz to all who make the trip to DC in summer 2007. I live in Fairfax
County, VA, just across the river from Washington, DC., and I would be
honored to break tortillas with you in my home.

Natalie

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MEXICAN POTTERY

Yolanda
I have a classic olla that I use for cooking my beans.  My
mother-in-law told me to boil water with salt in it until almost gone for
several times before using.  I don't know if my pot has lead in it or not,
but I purchased it in Michoacan, in a village where they are famous for
them.  My mother-in-law and her relatives use these pots all the time to
cook and serve...and they are still living.......
 
But just in case, I found this site you might be interested in:
 
http://www.ranchogordo.com/html/rg_cook_claypots.htm
 
Esperanza

Salt Lake City, Oct. 14, 2006

The Hispanic
Conference in Salt Lake City will be held Saturday, October 14, 2006.  I
am expecting to receive the program schedule soon and will post it
then.  In the meantime, I have been informed that the Salt Lake Plaza
Best Western Hotel is now under new ownership. This has caused a price increase
in the hotel rate I had quoted in my previous e-mails. I contacted another
hotel and got good rates there as well.  I am providing both for your
convenience.
 
1.   Salt
Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel changed their price to $82.00 plus tax for a
room for two persons.  (Previously they had quoted $80.00 plus tax for a
room for up to 4 persons.)  Their website is: www.plaza-hotel.com and their toll free
number is: 1-800-366-3684.  You have to mention "Ranchos Genealogy Group"
to get the discounted price since there are a few rooms reserved for us. 
There is NO continental breakfast but they have a nice restaurant that serves a
buffet as well as good menu selections.  Since October is a very busy time
for them I was only able to hold a small block of rooms from October 8th through
October 15th.  You can choose to stay ANY number of days between Oct
8th - 15th.
 
2.  
Howard Johnson Express Inn offered us a rate of $35.00 plus tax (total $39.32)
for a single queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total $55.05) for a
room with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons.  Go to "Google" and type in
"Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their facility as well as
comments made by other guests who have stayed there.  Their toll free
number is:  1-800-541-7639.  Mention my name (Josie Trevino-Trevino)
and "Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special rate. They offer a FREE
continental breakfast and they are about two blocks from the Library. 
There is a free trolley that passes nearby and takes you to the Library if you
do not want to walk.  This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for any
number of days you might need......provided reservations are made EARLY. 

 
Mickey and I have
stayed at both hotels in the past and like them equally well.  The
convenience of the Best Western Plaza Inn is that it is located right next door
to the Library.  Of course, you pay a little more for this
convenience.  The convenience of the Howard Johnson Express Inn is that you
can have your FREE continental breakfast, (coffee, juice, bagels, cold cereal,
etc) in your room and then either walk to the library or ride the free
trolley.
 

Each person will be
responsible for making their own reservations, travel arrangements,
etc
 
Please let me
know if you are interested in going, the number of persons attending, the
dates you will attend, etc.  Mickey and I are planning to arrive there
Sunday, Oct 8th and leave the following Sunday, Oct. 15th.  The Library is
closed on Sundays so we use this as our travel day.  :-) 

 
I am still working
on finding a little space (somewhere) that we can sit down and visit with each
other and exchange information. Any suggestions
are welcome! 
 
Wouldn't it be great if we could grill some fajitas con
cebolla, aguacate y tortillas and eat our tacos as we talk about our
ancestors???
 
Josie in San Antonio
 
 

Memories of food from Tepatitlan

Hi Esperanza,

My father was born in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico. I have
been looking for relatives or someone who may have known his
relatives there. Does anyone in your family know the Romero or de la
Torre families from that area? My father's name was Ramon Romero,
his parents were Castulo Romero and Sofia de la Torre, his
grandparents were Manuel Romero and Marcelina de la Torre. Sofia's
parents were Jose de la Torre and Elena Romero. A whole lot of de la
Torre's and Romero's. My uncle, Rosendo Romero, and aunt Elena
Romero came to the US between 1920 and 1923. Adolfo Romero and my
father came with them.

Since your foster father came from the same city, I am hoping he may
have known about this family.

Linda

Linda R Romero
romero89@earthlink.net

> Researching: Romero, Hallstead/Halstead, Davis, Hamm, Buell,
> Beltz, Chandler, Burgess, Hitchcock, de la Torre, Hotchkiss, Moore,
> Nichol/Nichols, Phelps, Scott, Sherwood, Trowbridge,
> Barba, Brewster
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Nor Cal Meeting

Just a reminder that the Northern Cal meeting is scheduled for this
Saturday, March 4th at 11:30. All the past participants have been
notified and have received copies of the agenda. Any other interested
parties, please direct your questions directly to me: mcortez3@gmail.com

Thank you,

Maria

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Natalie in VA

Natalie; The first meeting, as is so common, was a just "get to know everybody" type. I just was so happy to put faces on the names. It is now more fulfilling to see Peggy Delgato's name (example) and know her as a real person that I have met and spoken to. Once the ice is broken, the subsequent activities can be planned with more confidence and with people you "know". For me, it was especially nice to meet Deena Ortiz. We had a common interest and it was nice to share a moment.
Between you and me, the food was so good and there was so much of it !

I think that there will more meetings everywhere, now that this one has set the stage here in So. calf.

I wish you happiness,

Jose Luis Macias

-----Original Message-----
>From: Natalie
>Sent: Mar 2, 2006 3:58 PM
>To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ranchos] So Cal meeting - a question
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>I've looked at all the messages regarding the SoCal meeting - but
>haven't found information regarding the proceedings of the meeting
>(except for the wonderful lunch the rest of us missed; excuse me for
>drooling). What was the agenda? What things were discussed? Could
>someone please share some insights into what went on in the meeting,
>what you got out of it, and if you will schedule another. Thanks for
>sharing.
>
>Natalie in VA
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A veteran's conversation with Olivia's husband

I had a great conversation with a great guy who was a Vietnam Vet, like myself. I came away with information more valuable than a link to my family. The food was great and the conversations were equally facinating. But Olivia's husband (really great and interesting guy) told me about the VA hospital and registration for the disability benefits. Olivia, please thank him for me.
   There is a bond that has been born within this group that the meeting at Olivia's house helped to cement. Olivia, please accept my most sincere thanks for hosting this event.
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes
Sent: Mar 2, 2006 4:50 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] So Cal meeting - a question

Hi Natalie,
You'll probably hear more from others who attended, but I'll give you my take on the meeting.  Unfortunately, I was still busy in the kitchen when people started to arrive so I wasn't able to hear what everybody had to say.  I do know that as each person arrived, they were instantly involved in a "what's your family line" conversation. 

We followed a rather loose agenda.  At the start the focus was more on meeting each other and getting somewhat familiar with the specific areas we each are researching.  Everyone brought records and some books, so a lot of the time was used matching up similar ancestors.  Rosalinda was of tremendous help because she is very familiar with various methods of researching online, as well as some methods/techniques used at the various research centers, i.e., NARA, Family History Centers, local libraries.  Some who had communicated online, continued discussions previously started, but which now were helped along by being able to share information in person.  Rosalinda and a few others brought along some of the books that provide historical information as well as  records information - Ronnie Reynoso had a copy of Jose Luis' book on Nochistlan, Zac, and Rosalinda (if I remember correctly) had  a book on marriage dispensations as well as other items she shared with the group.  Rosalinda also handed out a sheet on which was printed quite a few beneficial web sites.  

People started arriving exactly at 11:30 and the last person left at about 4:00 p.m.  Almost the entire time was spent in discussion.  Lunch was served about 1:30, but even then my husband had to kinda bully people away from their conversations and to the meal. 

Olivia
Natalie <nc_coleman@yahoo.com> wrote:

I've looked at all the messages regarding the SoCal meeting - but
haven't found information regarding the proceedings of the meeting
(except for the wonderful lunch the rest of us missed; excuse me for
drooling). What was the agenda? What things were discussed? Could
someone please share some insights into what went on in the meeting,
what you got out of it, and if you will schedule another. Thanks for
sharing.

Natalie in VA





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Hispanic Genealogy Conference in Riverside, CA

Any Rancho members planning to attend the following conference?

March 18: MAJOR EVENT: Hispanic Family History Conference, Riverside
George Ryskamp, BYU Center for Family History & Genealogy
Classes by Spanish/English, Prof. Ryskamp and BYU students

Saw this listed in the Somos Primos table of contents (posted o/a Mar
1, '06)- check Somos Primos for details (I guess).

Natalie

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Memories of food

Joseph,
 
I just loved your story.  It reminded me of one I would like to
share.
 
I was raised by foster parents from Jalisco, my foster mother was from
LaBarca while my foster father was from Tepatitlan.
 
He worked for Santa Fe, the graveyard shift, she was a stay-at-home
mom.  Our eating routine usually started with "leche con pan dulce" for
breakfast.  We came home to a hot meal every day (she wasn't the best cook,
but it was always good and substantial).  When we got home from school, we
did chores, homework, etc.  Then she would serve her husband his own meal
(always different from what she served us or herself).  We would always
wonder why he got the "special" looking stuff, but dared not ask.  Later,
we would eat something light, like tostadas, and right before bed we would have
our pan dulce with our leche.
 
One night, when my foster father was working and my brothers were out
playing (I was never allowed to go out and play, as I had to be chaperoned at
all times), I saw her eating fish.  She was eating it with such delight,
and I asked to taste it.  She let me taste it, but I did not like it. 
This was one of the first times that I had ever seen her eat or
prepare fish - she said it reminded her of childhood, but did not
elaborate.
 
Now that left an impression upon me, because fish was expensive and not
necessarily readily available in Chicago (fresh) during those days, nor did we
ever get fish when we went to Jalisco visiting family.  Just recently, I
learned that her father was a fisherman - he used to fish at the Laguna de
Chapala.  It saddened me that she would prepare special meals for
her husband and separate meals for herself and us. 
 
I am wondering if anyone else had a similar ritual when they grew up? 
Can anyone tell me why pan dulce was served right before bedtime and a light
supper provided? 
 
Esperanza

For SoCal members

I was searching the NARA site (www.archives.gov/) and came across
this bit of information that may be of interest to those who reside
in So. California:

Genealogical Workshops at NARA's Pacific Region
(Laguna Niguel, CA)

All classes begin at 9:30 AM and are held at NARA's Pacific Region,
24000 Avila Road, 1st Floor East, Laguna Niguel, CA 92677. Class
sizes are limited. Please call (949) 360-2641, ext. 0 to reserve your
place. All workshops cost $7.50, payable at the door. Photographic
identification is required to enter our facility.

October 18: Naturalization and Immigration Records
This course examines immigration and citizenship records, emphasizing
procedural changes from 1790 to the present as well as methods for
locating both naturalization records and passenger manifests.

October 27: Preserving Your Family's History
Participants in this workshop will learn basic methods for organizing
genealogical records and preserving photographs, historical
documents, and other treasured heirlooms.

November 1: Introduction to Genealogical Resources
For beginners and those who want to brush up on their basic skills,
this workshop addresses the use of Federal census, passenger arrival,
naturalization, and military records as well as basic reference works.

November 9: Introduction to Military Records
This workshop will explore basic military resources for genealogy
relating to American military actions from the Revolutionary War
through the conflicts of the late 20th century.

November 15: Naturalization and Immigration Records

November 30: Introduction to Genealogical Resources

Address:
24000 Avila Road
1st Floor, East Entrance
Laguna Niguel, California 92677-3497

(949) 360-2641

laguna.archives@nara.gov

Natalie in VA

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RE: Olivia's "Nuestra Vida" Project

What a sweet story, Joseph.  Darn it!  A reminder
that I have to put the stories down that I hear.  I need to make time....

 
Funny.  My parents would always make nopales en
ensalada--(cooked nopales with chopped raw onions, cilantro, tomatoes &
chiles serranos or jalapenos-- probably what your mom cooked for your dad or was
it  different?  I didn't learn about nopales with
chile and carne de puerco, until recently from a co-worker whose family was from
Chihuahua.  When I asked my mom about this.  She responded, that isn't
a dish from Chihuahua.  We make it in Jalisco too, but you know how your
dad is about pork.  He's not fond of pork, but makes the best
carnitas.  Go figure...
Irma


From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:06 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Olivia's "Nuestra Vida"
Project


easy, just start a few catagories like the ones I suggested and have
people send in their stories related to each in relation (somehow) to their
relatives who came from our target area. In the story below you have my mom who
was from El Paso and my dad born in Santa Paula, but the influence--my
grandmother-- was from Jalisco. .

for example my mom used to make
nopales in the plain style without chile sauteed after being boiled even though
from her childhood she liked the style of them being cooked in a chile sauce.
Why did she do that? Well because my grandmother who was born in Las Animas,
Santa Maria de Los Angeles, Jalisco, was a strict mother-in-law when it came to
the wifes of her beloved sons (anyone else ever hear of how much the mothers
loved their sons?) and though this marriage survived until death did part them
there were other marriages from my uncles that didn't because of the macho
domineering type of attitude the sons of my grandparents had about how they
should be cared for by their wives. In my marriage my wife doesn't cook for me.
. .she just cooks. And for that matter when I sometimes cook I don't cook for
her I just cook. but that wasn't the case in my parents lives. I think I said to
the group before that one day I caught my mom eating her nopales with chile not
many months after my dad died. And she was crying while she ate them. I asked
her why she was crying and she said that she was eating nopales the way she
liked them. I didn't understand and asked for an explanation. She said my father
liked them plain and for all the years she had been married to him she hadn't
eaten them like she liked them with chile because she knew he liked them plain.
Now as she was eating them her preferred way with chile it reminded her of his
death.

it was different customs and ideas and traditions that produced us
and Olivia taking the reins of a project like this is extremely important. I
don't know if you know folks or subsets of the Ranchos group personally but if
you could gather some oral history that would be great. Oral history especially
when its just stories of what happened during a time of youth are full of the
customs and traditions that influenced us today.

basically we would need
to take stories like above and put them into each catagory and upload them into
folders on the new site. No sense if we are going to "soon" be moving over to
the new site to build anything new on the Yahoo
site,

joseph



Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes wrote:

You're a great sales person Joseph.  I'd be more than happy
to oversee this.  I just have to figure out how and what I'm doing. 


Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes
Rowland Heights, CA

Joseph
Puentes <makas@nc.rr.com> wrote:

Texas Border Crossing Records

I am over at the National Archives looking up border crossing records and am having no luck finding El Paso crossings from 1916. Does anybody know if these crossings are available on microfilm anywhere? The college student staff member who is working here tonight told me that those years for El Paso are not filmed... but I want to make sure.

On a brighter note, Chris Pineda, I have found the border crossing records for your great-grandparents Nicanor Pineda and Emilia Gonzalez. I will scan them and send them to you.

So Cal meeting - a question

I've looked at all the messages regarding the SoCal meeting - but
haven't found information regarding the proceedings of the meeting
(except for the wonderful lunch the rest of us missed; excuse me for
drooling). What was the agenda? What things were discussed? Could
someone please share some insights into what went on in the meeting,
what you got out of it, and if you will schedule another. Thanks for
sharing.

Natalie in VA

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Lent and Capirotada Time

Well it is that time again............time to do your shopping and get ready for Capirotada. Tomorrow is fat Tuesday as they say in New Orleans but for "nosotros los Mexicanos" it is time to prepare for Ash Wednesday. Not only do we prepare capirotada but we begin to prepare all the other lenten meals which means meatless pero muy sabroso.   Today we purchased el pan bolillo at the panaderia La Sonorense. Tomorrow we slice the bread lengthwise and toast it in the oven. Hubby diced all the dried fruit today to use for the capirotada. He shelled the peanuts and will toast them tomorrow. He went to Supermercado Mexico today and purchased Canela, piloncillo, tomatillos, queso Oaxaca and we will be ready to roll tomorrow.   For the rest of the meal we bought nopales, dried favas which in spanish are habas and the dried, powdered shrimp. We will make tortas de camaron con nopales en mole rojo. We will shell
and clean the favas and boil until soft, then will saute with chopped onions, minced garlic and diced fresh tomatoes. In the morning we have one very light breakfast as this is a day of fasting which means you have lighter than usual meals. For lunch we will have the favas and for late afternoon the tortas de camaron con nopales y mole rojo. Will have the family over in the late afternoon to share a meal and a prayer and then off to church for Ash Wednesday.   These are my family's traditions from Tlachichila Zacatecas.   Happy Fat Tuesday to all........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

Transition Time

Okay folks I would like to EMPHASIZE that you all should be carefully
checking out the http://nuestrosranchos.org website. It won't be very
very long before we start a push toward making the full transition over
to the new site. Arturo has built a great website that has everything
that the Yahoo group had that we were using. If I were you I would mosey
over there and click on a few links and upload a few files and join the
forums and reply to the confirmation emails and upload some pictures and
basically experiment around.

For those of you that feel comfortable with the sites features why not
go to the Yahoo Website and see what you have in your "genealogy
folder." Then make a duplicate folder for yourself on the new site. No
sense in rushing but this will be good practice and Arturo has made it
so easy that I would like everyone to learn how to use these features of
the new site. Don't worry Arturo and I and Rosalinda will be here to
help you if you need help.

thanks for your patience and participation,

joseph

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Last Call for Donations for Mr. Valdes Salazar

First of all I would like to thank all of those members who have already sent me money for Esteban Valdes Salazar's publishing efforts. I have to date received $150 in donations. Between my father and I, we pledge to match all the donations we receive so thus far we will be getting Mr. Valdes $300.

My parents will be leaving by the middle of March back to Villa Guerrero and my father will be delivering the money in person to Mr. Valdes. If there is anybody who would like to donate but has not done so already, please send your dontation ASAP.

As I mentioned earlier, there are no banks in Totatiche, so you can either make out a postal money order in the name of Esteban Valdes Salazar or make out a personal check to me, Arturo Ramos, and my father will deliver the money in cash or in a single postal money order to Mr. Valdes.

My mailing address is:

Arturo Ramos
1225 13th Street NW Apt 412
Washington, DC 20005

Thanks again!

Last Call for Donations for Mr. Valdes Salazar

First of all I would like to thank all of those members who have already sent me money for Esteban Valdes Salazar's publishing efforts. I have to date received $150 in donations. Between my father and I, we pledge to match all the donations we receive so thus far we will be getting Mr. Valdes $300.

My parents will be leaving by the middle of March back to Villa Guerrero and my father will be delivering the money in person to Mr. Valdes. If there is anybody who would like to donate but has not done so already, please send your dontation ASAP.

As I mentioned earlier, there are no banks in Totatiche, so you can either make out a postal money order in the name of Esteban Valdes Salazar or make out a personal check to me, Arturo Ramos, and my father will deliver the money in cash or in a single postal money order to Mr. Valdes.

My mailing address is:

Arturo Ramos
1225 13th Street NW Apt 412
Washington, DC 20005

Thanks again!

Somos Primos March 2006Table of Contents and Link

I'm so happy and thankful for the continued support from Mimi Lozano
and the Somos Primos website.



See our entry to Somos Primos under "United States" and then below the
education section in the Culture section. Just do a "find" for the word
- podcast



joseph



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Subject: Somos Primos March 2006 Table of Contents and Link lq
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:23:02 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com





Click
here: Somos Primos: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity Issues


http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2006/spmar06/spmar06.htm





Dear primos, family, and friends. . .  

Hope all are well in this season of spontanous weather changes . . .



To facilitate searching through previous issues of Somos Primos, my
grandson Luke have created a single file of all the Tables of
Contents
for the 2002-2005 issues. 



All the Tables of Contents are connected, which means you can do a category
search based on the division in Somos Primos, such as BLACK or SPAIN,
or a keyword search  on the titles.  An overview of the
contents of Issues 2000 and 2001 is facilitated by the use of a subject
index created by John P. Schmal.



Once you have identified the issues of interest, then go the homepage
and click to any issue of interest. Hope this helps.



www.somosprimos.con/toc.htm   
Tables of Contents, 2002-2005

www.somosprimos.com/sitesearch.htm  
Keyword search

www.somosprimos.com/yearindex.htm   
Index, 2000-2001







UNITED STATES

National issues

Focus on Veteran Rights For increasing Hispanic federal employment! 

Naval Academy Summer Seminar (NASS) Program 

Focus on Conversion of qualified Hispanic interns to federal
employment!

Developing Internal Policies for placing Interns in Federal Employment

USDA International Internship > Seeks INTERNS, deadline MAR 15, 2006

Smithsonian Internships  > Spring Internship Fair, 26 April 2006

2/8 Notes: NHLA-Federal Government Under-representation of
HispanicsEducation



Education

Cesar Chavez  & Bernardo de Galvez

Successful marriages confer academic benefit on children

Hispanic advocates sue Texas over ESL and bilingual programs

Yahoo discussion Groups

Nuestra Family Unida podcast project   

WALKOUT Screening  > March 1, 2006, HBO > March 18th

Octavio Gomez, Cameraman Helped Cover Latino Civil Rights Movement



Culture

Latino TV characters seen as  the hot gift

Sibling Writing Team Surprises Again

Prestigious festival accepts S.A. filmmaker's maiden effort

Adding Color to Red, White and Blue



Business

The inexorable rise of Latino USA

New Latina Voz on the Web

For Hispanics, Farming is a Growth Industry

Some day laborers report being abused and cheated in their pay



ANTI-SPANISH LEGENDS

Get Fuzzy

Gold enduring Mystique

California Gold Rush and the "49ers"

The greatest theft in history

Smithsonian and the Spirit of Ancient Colombian Gold

Latinos in the Smithsonian Revised

Targeted Minorities

Fuss and feathers at the U. of I. 



MILITARY HEROES AND RESEARCH

Guy Gabaldon Documentary Finally Completed

Texas Vietnam Veterans



SPANISH SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION

Cesar Chavez y Bernardo de Galvez: Sons and Souls of California.

Patriot Ancestors from Cuba (Part 2, F-J) by Granville Hough, Ph.D.



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The Descendents of  Doctor Antonio Fernando Lafon Chapa

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NARA Border Crossing Records

Last September, at the Hispanic Genealogy Conference held @NARA,
Washington, DC, one of the presentations had to do with "Mexican
Border Crossing (Immigration) Records. The presentation was given by
Claire Prechtel-Kluskens, and most of the details of her presentation
can be found at the following NARA site:
http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/immigration/border-mexico.html
It is very detailed, and should be read with care.
Some of the basics are as follows:
- records of arrivals at Mexican borders began in 1906;
- information on immigrants was initially recorded as for ship
manifests, but this proved impractical, and a system of "card
manifests" was initiated;
- if a person indicated they would be in the U.S. for less than 6
months, no record was made;
- some records are arranged alphabetically, while others are arranged
chronologically (possibly with an alphabetical index);
- to date, immigration records are available for 24 land border ports
(these are listed in the NARA site mentioned above).

My recollection is that the filming of the border crossing records is
NOT yet complete, and the majority of the El Paso records are yet to
be filmed (I think because it has the greatest number of records; the
other ports had fewer immigrants/records so they were filmed first).
To sum up, NARA is still filming Mexican border crossing records, and
may not be finished for another year or two (that was my
understanding).
I hope this is helpful to you.

Natalie Castro Coleman,
researching Castro, Garcia, Dueñas, and others in Zacatecas

Joseph - did you record this presentation?

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SoCal Meeting

I just want to express my view and comment about our recent meeting that we had in Southern California.

First of all, I offer my thanks and appreciation to Olivia Jaurequi and her husband for being such wonderful hosts. I can imagine all the hard work and preparation that it took to take care of the group. The food was delicious and plentiful. My only regret is that I started with the Mole, beans, rice, salad,and the tasty Carne Asada and by that time, I had no room for the Menudo and pan dulce! Maybe next time I'll start with the Menudo.

I got to meet my two primos, Ken Alva and Ronnie Reynoso, a couple of very nice and wonderful guys. I had previously shared information with Ken over the internet and knew that we were related. That was not the case with Ronnie until we started sharing and comparing files, we are "primos" ! What a nice surprise.
One other thing that I found out from my "new Primos" was that all three of us have a descendency line from MOCTEZUMA!
All of this just 2 days after my 65th birthday. I couldn't have asked for a better gift.

I also like to send my thanks to Rosalinda for teaching me how to improve my research skills ( I am still learning) using the IGI. She is such a knowledgeable and unselfish person, willing to share her wisdom and resources with the rest of the group.
I would recommend this type of informal meeting to the rest of the members in other parts of the country. A lot can be learned and accomplished when you are face to face with fellow members. Thanks to the other attendees for making the meeting a wonderful experience.

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.

Digest Number 760

Message from Sandra Medina mony7979@...

Hi,   Thank you for the info, I have already saw this infor, but like you noticed, the name of the woman is different, thats why i didn't pay much attention on it.   You say that that is not uncommon?, can you explain me a little bit? I've just started to search my genealogy and there are a lot of things that i haven' understand at all!   Thank you § have a great day!!   Monica

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1. [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:17:37 -0800 (PST)
From: arturoramos
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa


Monica:

There are some interesting entries in the familysearch website for potential matches to the family you are looking for. The mother's surname does not match, but that is not as uncommon as you may think.

JUAN DE LA ROSA
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: NARCISA ACOSTA Family
Marriage: 28 OCT 1872 Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M600825 1866 - 1875 0439842 Film

ESTANISLAO ROZAS CALDERON
Male
Christening: 23 NOV 1874 Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas,
Mexico
Parents:
Father: JUAN ROZAS Family
Mother: NARCISA CALDERON
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C600824 1872 - 1875 0439823 Film

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Message from Mónica mony7979@...

Hi, Mu name is Monica Medina, i'm mexican currently living in Montpellier, France.

I've started my genealogical research and I have roots in Zacatecas, this are the names:

Ines de la Rosa Sandoval (my greatgrand mother) was daugther of Juan de la Rosa and Narcisa Sandoval. They come from Fresnillo, Zacatecas I haven't found more information on dates, but I keep on researching.

Also, for the family of my mom I know that Ontiveros surname comes from Zacatecas, but i'm not 100% sure, does anyones knows if this is true?

Thank you,
Monica

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:29:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Peggy Delgado
Subject: Re: New to the group

Hi Monica!! Welcome to the group!

Peggy Delgado

Mónica wrote:

Hi, Mu name is Monica Medina, i'm mexican currently living in
Montpellier, France.

I've started my genealogical research and I have roots in Zacatecas,
this are the names:

Ines de la Rosa Sandoval (my greatgrand mother) was daugther of Juan
de la Rosa and Narcisa Sandoval. They come from Fresnillo, Zacatecas
I haven't found more information on dates, but I keep on researching.

Also, for the family of my mom I know that
Ontiveros surname comes
from Zacatecas, but i'm not 100% sure, does anyones knows if this is
true?

Thank you,
Monica





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