General Digest, Vol 117, Issue 1

Me! And in Teocaltiche, too. What family line are you researching?

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 20:48:42 -0700 (PDT)
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I am back doing family research. I have posted to Mormon family site all my
data to date. Any others doing research in Lis Altos?

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Teocaltiche,Jalisco and surrounding areas.

Veronica,

Have any of your searches led you to Nochistlan? Many families began in
Nochistlan Zacatecas and moved out to surrounding areas. Teocaltiche,
Mexticacan, Yahualica, Cuquio, Tepatitlan and Jalostitlan are some of
Jalisco's surrounding/neighboring towns.
Some surrounding towns from outside of Jalisco and within Zacatecas are
Jalpa, Huanusco, Tepusco, Apulco and Villanueva among others. Keep
these in mind when doing your research, know the geographical area.

See below from WIKIPEDIA, and while there are some discrepancies, for the most part this was one of the first official Spanish settlements in the three states, Aguascalientes, Jalisco and Zacatecas.

Nochistlán is a town in the Mexican state of Zacatecas. Nuño Beltrán de Guzmán, on December 3, 1531, hired Juan de Oñate to establish a village in Nochistlán; the village would be named Guadalajara to honor Guzmán for having been born in Guadalajara. Guadalajara was founded in Nochistlán on January 5,
having as officials Juan de Oñate, Sancho Ortíz de Zuñiga and Miguel
Ibarra. They worked at this project for only 16 months and created the
first layout of Guadalajara.
The first news that we have regarding the natives of these lands points to the Tecuexes.
These people established settlements around 1000 A.D. Later in the 12th
century a new group of people moved in, these people were called Caxcan and they were from the valley in Tuitlán, which is now found in the municipality of Villa Nueva Zacatecas. The Caxcan established Nochistlán by driving out the Tecuexe by force.

Hope this helps,
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

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From: Veronica Rahorn
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 5:06:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teocaltiche,Jalisco

Sylvia,
I don't know if anyone has responded to you, but I am very interested in
hooking up with other people who are descendents from the Teocaltiche
region. I have traced my history back to 1805 to Teocaltiche, but family
records are few. I think it's because my family was new to Teocaltiche
around this time frame. I need to order more films to see if I can get any
clues as to where they came from. I would be really interested in migration
patterns to Teocaltiche.

m

Greetings from sunny SoCal

Greetings,
A little introduction from a newbie here. My name is Cindy and I live in sunny Southern California. My interest in family history dates back to 1977 when as a teenager I interviewed family members and started collecting facts. I was overwhelmed almost immediately by how to organize the data and also by not having a clue as to how to proceed with what I'd learned to make progress.
Fast forward to 1997 when my in-laws (knowing that I'd always shown an interest in genealogy) gave me a gift of Family Tree Maker software. I dove in headfirst and thanks to the new-fangled internet (it was completely new and foreign to me back then), I was able to make great strides in research mainly due to connecting with cousins and discovering the resources of my local LDS Family History Library.
Despite having better tools, the one area that I've never gotten very far with is my mom's ancestry in Mexico. Because of that, I've decided to really focus intently on Jalisco research. I was absolutely delighted to find this site. While I very recently had some exciting success tracing my mom's maternal grandfather's lines in Jalisco (found 12 abuelos all within two days thanks to church records), I continue to be challenged by her mom's mom's lines and all her father's lines. They remain brick walls for me.
My mom's maternal grandfather's lines have been found in Ocotlan, La Barca, Jamay, Magdalena and possibly Tequila. Surnames are: Jimenez/Jimenes/Gimenes/Ximenes, Peres/Perez, Castellanos, Carillos, Velasco, Sagu and Franco(?) [not exactly sure on the last surname as I've only found it on one baptismal record and it was very hard to decipher.]
Mom's maternal grandmother was born in Tototlan and I only have two surnames in this line: Orozco/Orosco and Vargas.
Mom's father was born in Guadalajara and his parents surnames were Navarro and Padilla, but I haven't got any information other than their names, so researching them at the moment feels like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Looking forward to getting acquainted with others here. I should mention, all my Spanish language skills come from school and they're pretty rusty, sorry to say.
Here's to breaking down brick walls soon! (Thanks for reading if you got this far.)
CindyF

500 Man Expedition Sent From Zacatecas North To Form Texas on February 3, 1720

On February 3, 1720, a 500 man expedition was sent from Zacatecas, Mexico to form our northern province of Texas at the request of Don Fernando De La Campa y Cos who was a Colonel at that time.

It was financed with 94,388 pesos.

It is on pg 4 of thise document that was written in 1722. The reference number is:

INDIFERENTE,141,N.43

To look up in the pars website:

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

It is a 4 page document and this is page 4:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/23s7wcj.jpg

Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia

Saludos a todos,

Les aviso que acaba de informar Don Mariano González Leal que ya están disponibles sus nuevas publicaciones de "Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia", en la librería Mariano Azuela de la calle Juarez de Guadalajara. En cuanto sepa su costo les aviso por si hay alguna persona interesada en obtenerlas.

Saludos

Hello everyone,

Just to let you all know that Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal's new "Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia" publications are now available for sale at the Mariano Azuela book store in Guadalajara, located on Juarez street. As soon as I know the cost I will let you know if anyone is interested in obtaining them.

Regards,

Ricardo

Nuevos datos sobre los Araiza y Medina y los Guzmán.

Hola compañeros:

El día de hoy encontré gracias al trabajo de Katy Bretch Quesada, otro expediente de Orden Sacerdotal que nos aporta muchos datos nuevos en la línea de los Araiza y Medina y los Guzmán. Este post debe de ser de mucho interés para mi estimado colega Sergio Salés.

El expediente del cual se trata es de Gabriel de Araiza y Medina, hijo de Don Cristóbal de Araiza y Medina y de Doña Antonia de Guzmán.
Algo especial es que su padre Don Cristóbal hace la declaración de limpieza de sangre de su hijo y hace mención en ella no solo a sus padres (abuelos de Gabriel) sino de sus abuelos (bisabuelos de Gabriel) y de la misma manera la ascendencia de su esposa Doña Antonia de Guzmán.

Con ello podemos conocer que Don Cristóbal fue hijo de Don Juan de Araiza y Medina, originario de la Villa de Aguascalientes y de Doña María Sánchez de Castillo, originaria de Tecolotlán. Nieto por línea paterna de Don Juan de Araiza y Medina originario de los Reinos de Castilla de un lugar de la Vizcaya y de Doña María González Lozano, originaria de la Villa de Aguascalientes. Por la línea materna nieto de Don Diego del Castillo y Doña María Sánchez de Aldana, ambos de Tecolotlán.
Que Doña Antonia Guzmán, su esposa, fue hija de Don Juan de Guzmán y Doña Luisa Gómez García. Nieta por línea paterna de Don Miguel de Guzmán y Doña Ana Fernández de la Cueva, originarios de la Ciudad de Compostela. Por línea materna nieta de Don Juan Gómez García y Doña María de Velasco, de Tecolotlán.

Muy interesante lo que declara el cuarto testigo Don Manuel Sánchez Cabesuelas, de 56 años, hijo del Capitán Alonso Sánchez Cabesuelas y sobrino del Alférez Nicolás Sánchez Cabesuelas. Aparte de mencionar el nombre de los bisabuelos de Gabriel de Araiza, menciona algunos datos adicionales importantes a considerar: "siempre oyo decir a los dhos su padre y tio que los dhos Guzmanes desendian por lignea recta del Conde de Miravalles".

Los demás testigos aportan información adicional como que Don Juan de Araiza y Medina, abuelo de Gabriel tuvo el cargo de Alcalde Mayor de dicha jurisdicción (probablemente se refiera a Autlán) así como que Don Juan de Guzmán fue teniente varias veces de Tecolotlán. Se mencionan a otros eclesiásticos como parientes de Gabriel de Araiza.

Aparte de compartir está información con ustedes me gustaría saber si con estos nuevos datos es posible avanzar aún más en la genealogía de las líneas mencionadas? ¿Alguien sabrá como es que la familia de Juan de Guzmán y Fernández de la Cueva puede estar relacionada al Conde de Miravalle? ¿Doña Ana Fernández de la Cueva pertenece a la misma línea que Don Beltrán Fernández de la Cueva de Tecolotlán? ¿Sabe alguien algo acerca de la familia Sánchez de Aldana, ya que creo haber visto alguna vez datos de esa línea en este foro? Les agradezco cualquier información que pudieran aportarme a partir de los nuevos datos expuestos.

Enrique Agraz

1618 Document Testamento of Herrederos of Haciendas of Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico

Found a document that is dated 1618 and talks about the herrederos of the Haciendas of Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico.

The reference no. is: MEXICO,29,N.11

To enter in Pars website:

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

It starts on pg 9 in regards to Sombrerete and continues on after each page.

Finally backed into the 1600's.

Almost my entire mother's family comes from Tlaltenango and surrounding areas. Today, I finally found one line that led me to the 1600's: Magdalena Robles Merino b: 1652 from Tlatenango marries a guy from Guanajuato: Nicolas Llamas de Leal b: 1647.

Like many of you, I have the surnames of Miramontes (have only been able to trace to early 1700's, Bobadilla, Gonzales, Luna, Herrera, Trejo, Robles, Pinto, etc...

When I figure out how to load up (using ancestry.com and MyHeritage), I would be excited to share for your perusal.

Esperanza

Petronila de Moctezuma

A question for Rick Ricci ...

In your info on the Villalpandos posted a few days ago, you mentioned that Petronila de Moctezuma is mentioned that court records show that Petronila is named in the litigation over inheritance (the encomienda?), which confirms she is one of the "other five children" (these, I assume being the children vaguely referenced in the Codex Chimalpahin).

Do you have a reference or citation to a specific document, or group of documents? In PARES, perhaps?

I have read the postings here at NR concerning Guillermo Tovar de Teresa's unpublished work that discusses her ancestry, but no documents were identified. It is unclear if his final work will be published.

I have also read numerous posts that identify Martin Navarro, as "Martin Gabai, el Navarro," but I have seen no contemporary documents that name him in this manner.

I have seen only one document that names Martin Navarro and Petronila de Moctezuma. Are there others that have been digitized? This is a marriage dispensation for Bartholome Rodrigues Baxo (or Bajo); this was excerpted in "Genealogia de Nochistlan Antiguio Reino de la Nueva Galicia" and it's location identified by the work of Claudia Reynoso, and others. Please see my NR posting at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/20112, and the comments/replies made by other members (such as Armando who provide a transcription at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/20566).

If there are other documents that name Petronila, and/or Martin, even if they are not digitized and available on the web, identifying them would be beneficial.

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On another topic ....

At the Denver Public Library's website, there is information on early New Mexico families, including a report on the descendants of Juan de Villalpando and Ursula Olaes. They were from Leon, GTO, as were at least some of the Villalpando's in Aguascalientes.

This report names more than 2500 descendants of Juan and Ursula, but unfortunately there are no references whatsoever, thus diminishing its value.

I have not been able to connect Tomas de Villalpando, and his wife Maria Velez, with Juan de Villalpando of Leon, or with Diego de Villalpando of Aguascalientes.

Tomas and Maria had at least two sons, Tomas (II) and Marcos. Tomas (II) left many descendants in Aguascalientes, but I have yet to identify any descendants of Marcos (but I will admit not having spent much time researching in the Guanajuato church records).

George Fulton

FW: Somos Primos October 2015 lq1

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Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 8:35 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos October 2015 lq1

Please copy/paste
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2015/spoct15/spoct15.htm

Dear Primos and Friends:

I am sure you all enjoyed the excitement of viewing the activities of Pope Francis in the United States. Pope Francis canonization of Father Junipero Serra, a 1700's Spanish missionary, was a public statement of the Spanish in the colonization and settlement of the United States.

It is appropriate to point out that Christianity was brought to these shores by Spanish Catholics in 1492, by Christopher Columbus, not the pilgrims who came over a hundred years later in 1620.

There is an argument that artifacts have been found which indicate other countries predating Columbus, such as Chinese, Celtics, and even some Christian crusaders, etc. in reaching the United States.
However, those visitors did not leave any evidence of a colonizing and permanent presence.

Whereas the oldest continually occupied city in the United States is St.
Augustine, which recently celebrated its 450 year old Spanish heritage.
There is historic evidence, that Spanish explorer Pedro Menendez founded St. Augustine in 1565. Do read about the celebration under the EAST COAST section.

Thanks to the contributions of Dr. C.A. Campos y Escalante, Marcel Gomes Balla and Jose Antonio Crespo-Frances, this issue is full of articles, essays, lists, etc. expanding the footprints of the Spanish explorers throughout the world.

Our task should go beyond defending Christopher Columbus and Father Junipero Serra, to the realization that our ancestors were remarkable.
They successfully mixed their blood all over the world. Primos, our Spanish antepasados should be honored and admired, for the important role they played in spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world.

God bless America, Mimi

Somos Primos, October 2015

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HERITAGE PROJECTS
A West Austin Journal
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Restaurant Sign in Dallas, Texas
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Rosario Anaya: Pillar of Mission Latino community dies unexpectedly by
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Mexican-American Heroes Denied Recognition

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Un gran reconocimiento al Teniente General Gálvez, en Malaga Presidios in the Line by Robert H. Thonhoff Granaderos de Gálvez at History Symposium

SURNAMES
Re-examining the Power of the Nasi Family at the Court of the Ottoman Empire
by Stephanie
Diego Fernández de Córdoba, Marquis of Gradalcázar, Viceroy of New Spain
by John Inclan
Familia Zertuche de España a México

DNA
Trauma May Be Woven Into DNA of Native Americans by Mary Annette Pember

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Descendants of Diego de Villarreal
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Emilia Otero and the Rise of the Food Truck How the Afro-Peruvian cajón entered flamenco by Eve A. Ma, Ph.D.
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FW: The Byzantines Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup E1b1b1b)

Contact Angel directly if you want the attachment:

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:09 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Byzantines Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup
E1b1b1b)

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on Anthropological Genetic
Genealogy: The Byzantines Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup
E1b1b1b). If you would like to learn more about the mark this ancient
civilization made on the Iberian Peninsula then this presentation is for
you. There will be a presentation on the subject on November 1 at 3:30 PM,
through the University of New Mexico Continuing Education program.

Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:

http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati…
t_class_id=57690&int_category_id=0&int_sub_category_id=0

Best Regards,

Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

P.S. For more information open the attachment.

New Member Introduction and request for assistance on Gonzalez de Hermosillo

First of all, I want to thank all of you for all of the amazing work you've
done: when I began this project at the beginning of the summer, I saved my
maternal grandfather's ancestry for last, because I assumed it would be the
most difficult. We don't know much about our patriarch, J. Refugio G.
Hermosillo, before he crossed the border in 1926; he was 43 at the time,
and had already lived a lifetime. We had no contact with his family, his
parents and siblings dying long before we were born. All we knew was that
he was from a small town in Zacatecas called Montesa, and that, according
to him, he descended from one of the founding families. So, I wasn't
expecting to find much. But was I wrong! I started with his birth
certificate and the 3 generations named on it, and found the LDS website;
by the end of the first weekend, I had traced him all the way back to his
g2 grandparents, and only stopped, because the curas didn't list
grandparents before the late 18th Century (as you all know). But anyway, I
want to thank all of you, because I know SOMEONE had to index those
archives relative to Nueva Galicia, and I have a feeling it was YOU. MIL
GRACIAS A TODOS USTEDES, los nuevosrancheros y los somosprimoseros, for the
trailblazing work you've done and are doing, in regards to researching and
sharing the genealogy and history of Nueva Galicia and colonial Mexico in
general! (and for helping me make my 82 year-old mother and her 8 surviving
siblings very happy, learning about their colorful ancestors!)

A little background on my line: my grandfather, Jose Refugio Gonzalez, was
born in Montesa, Zacatecas, 4 Jul 1883, to Antonio Gonzalez and Susana
Sanchez. He was born with the Gonzalez surname, but some time while still
in Mexico, we figure around 1905, he changed it to "Hermosillo"; we never
knew why he changed it (we've often joked that he obviously didn't want
someone to find him…), nor why he chose "Hermosillo," but that's the name
he gave to his wife, Ana Olivas, of Juarez, as well as to their 11
children, born in California, and it's the name proudly worn by 5
generations of their descendants. "J. Refugio G. Hermosillo" was how he
always signed his name, and is the name on his death certificate and
tombstone.

That said, I started this endeavor not expecting to research the surname
"Hermosillo," since we assumed it had no history in the family prior to
1905 (and not even knowing the history of the surname in los Altos) - that
is, until I found the 1798 marriage record for grandfather's great
grandparents, Rafael Gonzalez & Maria Dolores de Avila, which clearly lists
the groom as:

"RAFAEL GONZALES DE HERMOSILLO, hijo legitimo de VICENTE GONZALES DE
HERMOSILLO y de JUANA DOROTHEA DIAZ DE LEON."

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5FZ-TSC

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15272-51812-83?cc=1804458&wc…

I was floored! I was thrilled! Alli esta mi segundo apellido! Y sera
alguien de categoria! Who was this GONZALEZ DE HERMOSILLO?? What did he
do?? How are we connected to him? What didn't abuelo tell us??

And that's where my journey really began. I googled the name and was led to
Nuestros Ranchos, amongst other websites, and I began reading through the
message boards. I learned about the conquistador, and his descendants
settling in los Altos, and about Gonzalez Leal's tomes, and the 117 spanish
families identified as the first-comers (and many whose surnames appear in
my tree), and how they intermarried throughout the Spanish Mandate (as I
witnessed, in my tree). And as I continue my research and get to know my
ancestors, I begin to feel a part of that history, that I am a product of
these adventurers, these hacendados, asistentas, capitanes, peones,
esclavos, and maybe even a Tlataoni… I was hooked! I need more! This is
better than a dusty old history book or any old video game!

So here I am, hoping to learn more about who it took to make me who I am,
and how they lived their lives, and hoping to share my findings with others
with the same intention, as well as with the same love for history. Muchos
somos parientes: les mando un fuerte abrazo. Y perdoname por no escribir
en español, pero ya esta tarde y !hablo mucho!

My focus families are the following (I group them because these branches
tend to intermarry or are associated:

En Pinos & Ojuelos & Aguascalientes:

Gonzalez de Hermosillo,

Gil de Esparza

Diaz de Leon

De Avila

Carrillo Lisardi

Gonzalez Murguia

Duron

Alvarado

Martin de Sotomayor, Martin de Camacho, Lozano, de Ruedas y de Islas, and
associated lines

En Pinos & los Altos & Aguascalientes:

Gomez [de Sotomayor]

Tiscareño de Huerta (and the Tiscareño, Ruiz de Esparza and associated
lines)

Ruiz de Villaseñor

Sanchez de la Mejorada

Muñoz de ?

En Pinos & Aguascalientes:

Delgado (Diego & Isabel de Isla Martinez Lozano)

Delgado y Ocampo & Valensuela & Chevarria Merquelan

Gaitan & Arias de Bedolla (roots in SLP & GTO, including Cortes y Galvan)

Rodriguez de Herrera o de Jara

Other surnames I'm working on are Dominguez Samudio & Lopez del Castillo,
Candelas & Buenrostro, Bernal de la Serda, Lopez de los Reyes, Ortiz de
Anda.

And again, thank all of you, for laying down the groundwork, and making it
easier for us newbies, to find our way to our ancestors. .

Gracias y saludos,

Looking for direct male descendant of Diego ROMO son of Diego ROMO DE VIVAR

Looking for direct male descendant of Diego ROMO (abt. 1630) son of Diego ROMO DE VIVAR (1589-1650) with family tree showing direct male connections.

Also looking for any direct male descendants of Diego's male siblings, which as far as I know are:

Juan ROMO (Abt. 1632)
Pedro ROMO (b.1632 Ags, Mx)
Geronimo ROMO
Francisco ROMO (Abt. 1644)

Please feel free to correct any of my dates or information.

I am a direct descendant of Diego ROMO DE VIVAR (1589-1650) and would like to connect my research. If you have had your yDNA tested it would be great. If not, I'm willing to pay for your yDNA to be tested.

Thanks primos!

It's been a while

Hi Esperanza,

Here is the User Guide to help you post on the forum:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/userguide

If you just want to make a quick post or upload a document, you can just sign in and on the right below your user name click "Post a forum topic," then just choose a Subject, a Forum and write your post. Below that is a section to upload a document towards the bottom called "File attachments."

Christopher de Cuellar

Nicolas Contreras in Search of his IM's

Nicolas Contreras (K24M-3JQ) Mas married to Cathalina Luevana (M319-Q5D familySearch.org)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65T9-3RY?cc=1502404&wc=M6Q…

He then married Elvira Luisa Delgado hija de Joseph Delgado y Francisca Gabadi Tiscareno Ruis de Esparza.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65T9-3P6?cc=1502404&wc=M6Q…

I did not find his parents mentioned in the wedding records (maybe I missed it) so I started looking for his IM. I have been unsuccessful because the records are quite mixed up. I have provided my research of mapping the pages and the dates maybe I missed it. Has anyone found the parents names for Nicolas Contreras. Thanks to all.

Aguascalientes, IM - 1666-1668
Page Year Person of Interest
19 Jan 1670
23 Jul 1670
24 1600 (1700)?
25 1700 Juan Masias charged with rape
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6S87-RM8?cc=1502404&wc=M6Q…

28 Sep 1700

29 1600 (1700)?

31 12 Sep 1700 Diego Delgado

33 Sep 1700
35 20 Sep 1700
39 14 August 1700
41 July 1700
45-64 23 Jul 1700 (start) mixed June Feb August July in this order of 1700

65 10 April 1700 Antonio de Alba (Espl) con Magdalena Martinez
De Nicolas Martin y Simon Lopez
Xptoval de Alba y Dona Theresa Estrada Bocanegra

69 28 Sep 1700
71 25 Sep 1700
75 20 Sep 1700
78 18 Oct 1700
80 16 Nov 1700

82 Phelipe Fernandez de Palos y Dona Barbara Gomez (not sure if that is last name) it seems that there is a petition to nullify the marriage.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6S87-523?cc=1502404&wc=M6Q…

89 25 Dec 1700
91 29 Dec 1700
93 1 Dec 1700
95 30 Dec 1700
97 3 Dec 1700
99 20 Jun 1700 Julio Masias
101 20 Jun 1700
101b Sep 1700
103 21 Jun 1700
107 13 Apr 1700
111 24 May 1700
113 19 June 1700
117 5 June 1700
121 23 Jan 1700
123 Obit of Miguel Damian (I believe)

P124 28 Jan 1700
126 1 Feb
Gallegos con Gertrudis Masias (First name is blur to me)

128 1 Feb 1700
130 1 Feb 1700
132 1 Feb 1700
134 23 Jan 1700 Delgado
136 13 Feb 1700
138 12 Feb 1700
140 12 Feb 1700
140b 21 May 1668
142 28 May 1668
144 It looks like the freedom of un Mulato Libre llamado Geronimo Aguilar

146-160 9 Nov 1668 (Nov 1668)
166 28 Jan 1668
168-190 3 Jan 1667 ( 1667)
194 8 March 1679
201 7 Mar 1669 (?)
203 Apr 1669
205 26 Apr 1669
207 29 Apr 1669
209 1669
211 May 1669
239 1670 (1)?
244 Apr 1670
253 1671
257 1671
280 1671
284 August 1671
290 1671
301 Nov 1671
339 27 Mar 1674
341 1671
343 25 Apr 1671
240 Apr 1670
341 1672
343 1671
344 5 Apr 1671
345 1671
347 12 Apr 1674
351 May 1674
353 20 Jun 1674
354 23 June 1674
356 2 August 1674
357 26 Mar 1674
360 5 Sep 1674
362 Sep 1674
364 Jan 1675
365 1679
368 Feb 1675
369 Jan 1675
371 Apr 1675
373 May 1675
375 June 1675
381 August 1674
383 Nov 1674
385 1 Apr 1676
387 Oct 1676
389 1 Apr 1676
391 10 Mar 1676
393 10 Sep 1676
395 17 Jun 1676
397 22 Nove 1676
399 13 Apr 1676
517 2 Apr 1678

Origin of the Perez-Gallo family line in Los altos de Jalisco

Does anybody know if the Origin of the Perez-Gallo family line in Los altos de Jalisco comes from Antonio Perez Temblador and Micala (Miicaela?) Gallo?

Josepha Maria Peres Gallo
Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Josepha Maria Peres Gallo
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Jul 1691
Christening Place: SAGRARIO METROPOLITANO, GUADALAJARA, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name: Antonio Peres Temblador
Mother's Name: Micala Gallo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60314-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 38315

Thanks,
R A Ricci

Romo, Tiscareño, Richarte (Richante), Pedrajo

Hello

Found this entry,havent before come across the names Richarte and Pedrajo associated with Romo, but here it is. I can see there are some people in NR interested in the Richarte name....

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11759-71993-98?cc=1410092&…

17 dec 1792
Marriage record for:

Don Jose Manuel Romo de Vivar and
Dona Maria Dolores Tiscareno

Don Jose Manuel Romo de Vivar español natural y vecino de Rincon de Romo feligracia del Pueblo nuevo (en culla Parroquia …?...) ho. Lo. de Don Vicente Romo de Vivar y de Dona Maria Josefa Pedrajo difunta, y Dona Maria Dolores Tiscareno española natural y vecina de esta feligracia en la Estancia de los Tiscarenos, h.a.l.a. de Don Juan Tiscareno y de Dona Maria Gabriela Richante, a quienes no di las bens. nupciales., por están cerradas las Velacionas, fueron padrinos Don Jose Rufino Romo de Vivar y Dona Guadalupe Esparza, y testigos Juan Valadez y Andres Lopez.
(margen) En 14 de Enero se les dieron las bens. nups.

Regards
Denise

Apuntes para la Genealogía de la Familia Romo de Vivar en Aguascalientes

Apuntes para la Genealogía de la Familia Romo de Vivar en Aguascalientes

1600 (Circa) Diego Romo casó con Catharina de Pérez en la Parroquia de
Rielves, Toledo, España

1624 (Circa) Diego Romo de Vivar y Pérez casó con María Rangel Peguero. Sus
hijos fueron: Joseph; Maria; Juan casó con María de Tiscareño; Isabel;
Antonia; Pedro casó con Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza; Jerónimo casó con
Margarita de Tiscareño; Antonio, Francisco, que casó con Lorenza Ruiz de
Esparza; Diego Romo de Vivar Rangel

1633 Diego Romo de Vivar casó con Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. Sus hijos fueron:
Nicolás, Luis, Beatriz, Juan, Baltasar, José y Sebastián

1677 Nicolás Romo de Vivar casó con María Martínez de Villalobos que era
hija de Nicolás de Villalobos y Theresa Carrillo. Sus hijos fueron: Joseph
Andrés, Alexo, Pedro, Petra, Brígida y Nicolás

1734 Joseph Andrés Romo de Vivar y Martínez de Villalobos casó con María
Margarita Martínez de Sotomayor, que era hija de Lucas Martínez de Sotomayor
y Theresa Esparza Flores. Sus hijos fueron: Francisca y Vicente

1755 (Circa) Vicente Romo de Vivar y Martínez casó con Maria Josefa
Pedrajo: sus hijos fueron: Joseph Manuel,

1792 Joseph Manuel Romo de Vivar Pedrajo casó con Dolores Tiscareño. Sus
hijos fueron: José-María-Atanasio-Ramón, José-Ramón-Francisco de Paula,
José- Luis-de la Trinidad, José-Luciano-Ramón, José María-Hipólito

1821 Francisco Ignacio Romo de Vivar y Tiscareño casó con Josefa Casilda
Lozano: sus hijos fueron: Jacinto,

1849 Jacinto Romo de Vivar Lozano casó con su prima hermana Josefa Lozano.
Sus hijos fueron: Manuela, María Petra, José Conrado, Jesús Bonifacio, María
,Francisco Cirilo, Joaquin.

1869 Jesús Bonifacio Romo de Vivar casó con Micaela Romo de Vivar. Sus Hijos
fueron: Francisca, Jacinto, José María, Ignacio, Agustín, José Refugio,
Alejandro, Josefa, Matilde, Dolores y María.

1900 Alejandro Romo de Vivar y Romo de Vivar casó con María teresa González
López de Nava. Sus hijos fueron; Javier, Alejandro, José, Enrique, Samuel,
Miguel, Ester, Teresa, Manuel y Cleotilde

1918 Miguel Romo González casó con Felipa Espino Tiscareño, hija de José H.
Espino y Carmen Tiscareño Escárcega. Sus hijos son: Alicia, Delia, Noemí,
Miguel y Raquel.

1939 Alicia Romo Espino casó con José Antonio reyes González: Sus hijos son:
Blanca Alicia, Clara Adelina, Gloria Helena, Juan Antonio, Felipe,
Elizabeth, Miguel Ezequiel, Norma Adriana y Ana Gabriela.

Felipe Reyes Romo. Actualización al 4 de Febrero de 2007

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