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Buenos Dias Miembros del Foro,

El día de hoy me gustaría abordar el tema de los Lozano de Aguascalientes, especialmente de Christobal Martínez Lozano. La primera pregunta es si alguien sabe si el apellido es compuesto. Diferentes fuentes lo tienen como Christobal Martínez Lozano o simplemente como Christobal Martin Lozano o Christobal Lossano. Hasta ahora todos los hijos que he encontrado tienen el apellido Lozano solamente.

He encontrado su defunción el 13 de mayo de 1646. Dice que dejó testamento, pero el índice de testamentos del Archivo Histórico de Aguascalientes no parece tenerlo. Alguna idea?

Yo desciendo de su matrimonio con Maria de Isla por medio de su hija, también llamada Maria de Isla quien casó con Juan de Araisa Medina (el viejo). Pero no he podido encontrar la fecha de su matrimonio. De Juan de Araiza Medina sé que murió en 1665 y encontré su testamento. Estoy trabajando en una transcripción. Aparentemente era de Zacatecas, hijo de Fernando de Araisa y de Maria de Gusman.

Tampoco he podido encontrar datos sobre el año de nacimiento de Christobal, ni de su esposa, ni de su hija.

Muchas gracias!

Sergio

This morning I would like to take on the topic of the Lozano family of Aguascalientes, especially Christobal Martinez Lozano. Mi first question is if anyone knows if the last name is a compound name as in Martínez-Lozano. The reason I ask is because I have found is written at least three ways. One place has him as Christobal Martin Lozano, and another as Christobal Lossano. All his children bear only the last name Lozano, as far as I have found.

I have found his death record: he died 13 May 1646 in Aguascalientes. It says he left a will, but the Aguascalientes Historical Archive index of wills does not seem to have it. Any ideas?

I am a descendant of his marriage with Maria de Isla, through his daughter also named Maria de Isla. She married Juan de Araisa Medina (the elder). But I have not been able to find their marriage date. About Juan de Araisa I know that he died in 1665 and have found his will, written 1664. I am working on a transcription. Through the will I have found that Juan was the son of Fernando de Araisa (the elder) and Maria de Gusman from Zacatecas.

However, I have been unable to find any clues as to Christobal's birth year, or those of his wife and daughter.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

Sergio Sean Salés

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18378-38162-17?cc=1874591&wc…

i have been checking out ordnes collection since i'm not sure hwat they are found this for some guy named lorenzo carrillo davila.

what is this doucment about?

Noticed that a few in the group have made reference to El Limon, Jalisco. Here is a book about that area. It might be available via ILL, check for it on WorldCat:

Historia del valle de El Limón
stmt. resp.: Ing. Ignacio Gomez Zepeda
authors: Gómez Zepeda, Ignacio
format: Books/Monographs
language: Spanish
publication: [Jalisco : s.n.], [1992?]
physical: 118 p. : ill., facsims., ports.
subject class: 972.35 H2

Notes
Bibliografía: p. 111-118

History and genealogy of founding families of El Limón, Jalisco, Mexico.

Text in Spanish.

Subjects
México, Jalisco - History - GenealogyMéxico, Jalisco, El Limón - History - GenealogyCopies
Call Number Location Collection/Shelf Availability
972.35 H2g Family History Library INTL Book Available

Hello, I am looking for information on the Nandino family in Cocula,Jallisco. The Nandino family comes from Jalisco to Calaveras, CA in 1850 to mine gold.

The mother, Isabel (Ichano) Sevilla was born in 1811 in Cocula. She married Juan Antonio Nandino on October 11, 1827 in San Miguel Jalisco.

Her father's name was Jose Blas Sevilla.

One of Isabele's children was named Jesus Nandino. Jesus Nandino married Pedro Renteria.

Their children were: Manuella Renteria
Atilane Renteria
Pedro Renteria
Frederico Renteria

Does anyone have any information specifically on any of my ancestors? name of church where they married or cemetary where they died or anything at all?

Thank You,
smead12

I have reached a block wall with my maternal line and could really use some help.

I am attempting to find my ancestors on my Rodarte line.

My great grandmother was Maria Rodarte, her parents were SABINO RODARTE and CIPRIANA LOPEZ. The other children they had were Maria, Virgina, Felipa, Pedro, Faustino and Antonio. I have been unable to locate any info any further back that Sabino Rodarte and Cipriana Lopez. The lived in San Buenaventura, Coahuila which were most of their children were born. I know that they are also related to the Rodarte bullfighter family. Maria Rodarte was my great grandmother. She had children from JESUS SIFUENTES

Their births range in the 1880's.

Your assistance and info would be deeply appreciated

thank you,
Yvonne Medina
OCBONE@SBCGLOBAL.NET

Hi,
I found a Ma Virginia Rodarte Lopez that was baptized on 21 September 1870 in Nuestra Senora Del Roble, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon.  Parents Sabino Rodarte y Ma Sipriana Lopes.  If she is your lineage, do you know if she is the oldest?

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(English below)
He encotrado varias veces en testamentos o defunciones la frase "dejó a cada una de las mandas forsosas" y luego una cantidad de dinero.

Alguien sabe qué quiere decir esto de "mandas forsosas"?

Aqui hay un ejemplo, busquen del lazo izquierdo el 28 de mayo a Beltran Fernandes de la Cueba
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18721-7303-34?cc=1874591&wc=…

Gracias!

Sergio S. Salés

I have found the phrase "dejó a cada una de las mandas forsosas" followed by an amount of money in several death records and wills.

Does anybody know what "mandas forsosas" means?

Here is one image example. Look on the left for 28 May and Beltran Fernandes de la Cueba

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18721-7303-34?cc=1874591&wc=…

Thanks!

Sergio S. Salés

I came across this bit of music - I hope you enjoy listening to this. May you have a wonderful and blessed day.

http://www.playingforchange.com/episodes/61/Mexico_Lindo_y_Querido

Natalie

Español (English below)
Tengo una duda sobre la identidad de Joseph de Santana a finales del siglo XVII y principios del XVIII.
1)Alguien tiene el acta de matrimonio de Joseph de Santana con Juana Bueso?
Creo que ella es Juana Lopes-Bueso, hija de Nicolás Lopes-Bueso y de Nicolasa Guerrero y Ocón. Pero no he podido probarlo, porque no he encontrado su acta de matrimnio.

2)Asimismo, en 1719 tengo a un Joseph de Santana que casó en Tuxcacuesco con Efigenia de Zambrano. En su acta matrimonial dice que es viudo de Maria Gonzalez-Corona. Pienso yo que éstos dos Josephs de Santana son la misma persona. Pero tampoco he podido el matrimonio en Tecolotlán pues faltan fechas y los documentos en Tuxcacuesco están revueltos.
Alguien tiene el acta de Joseph y Maria?

3)Por último ha y un Capt. Joseph the Santana como testigo de varios bautismos en Autlán alrededor de 1700.

Muchas gracias!

Sergio Salés

English:
I have a question about the identity of Joseph de Santana at the end of the 17th century and beginning of the 18th.
1)Does anyone have the marriage certificate for Joseph de Santana's marriage to Juana Bueso? I am almost positive she is Juana Lopes-Bueso, daughter of Nicolas Lopes-Bueso and Nicolasa Guerrero y Ocón, but I can't prove it yet.

2) In 1719 a Joseph de Santana married Efigenia de Zambrano in Tuxcacuesco. It says he is a widower of Maria Gonzalez-Corona. I think these two Josephs are the same person does anyone have his marriage to Maria Gonzalez-Corona?

3) Lastly, I also have a Capt. Joseph de Santana as a witness at several baptisms around 1700 in Autlan.

Thanks!

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the maintenance of the Nuestros Ranchos site falls on just a couple of
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tal, el mantenimiento del sitio Nuestros Ranchos cae en sólo un par de
hombros que podría utilizar alguna ayuda.

Si usted tiene alguna experiencia programación, sistemas de administración
de contenido, bases de datos MySQL, tus habilidades podrían ser muy valiosas
para la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos. El sitio web está en extrema
necesidad de mantenimiento y actualización de algunos y si no podemos
conseguir a más voluntarios, es posible que debamos contratar programadores
para mantener vivo el sitio. En el espíritu de voluntariado que esta sería
su oportunidad para dar un poco atrás y ayúdenos a mantener este grupo libre
de la solicitud de apoyo financiero.

Si puedes ayudar, utilice el formulario de contacto contacto con Arturo
Ramos o enviar un correo electrónico al moderador [arroba]
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Hello, I am trying to find more information on one branch of my mother's family. Starting from my great - grandfather (Jose Marcial Medina B:29 June 1907 in San Jose de Guadalupe, Zacatecas married to Micaela Salazar (Castaneda) from Rio Grande, Zacatecas). Jose Marcial Medina's dad is still unknown but his mother was (Maria Josefa Medina - Delgado B:26 November 1871 in San Jose de Guadalupe, Zacatecas). My great great grandmothers parents were (Andres Medina- Vasquez B: about 1838) and (Maria Bernabe Delgado - Lozano B: about 1834). Andres Medina's parents were Ysidoro Medina and Elena Vasquez however besides this information I have not been able to find anything else on them and I would like to know more since this last name is essentially the pride of my mother's family however we do not know where it came from and I would like to know more about it and this family. Thank You! to anyone who took the time to read my post.

Armando has created a simple .doc file on how to use PARES. I'll be creating
a link to the file tomorrow.

I did have one question. Don't you have to create a username and password?
Or will it work anonymously?

Thanks Armando I'm sure many in the group will appreciate your effort on
their behalf.

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com

Thanks to Armando here is a link to some instructions on how to use PARES:

Go to the links area (http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/links) and at the
very top you can click on the "How To Use PARES Instructions" link

Or you can access it directly here: http://h2opodcast.com/nr/PARES.doc

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com

I recently found in the Guadalajara dispensas a record for the marriage of JOSE GREGORIO FLORES and MARIA AGRIPITA MARQUEZ. (Agripita was the great-granddaughter of PHELIPE MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS and FRANCISCA XAVIERA SANCHEZ.) The record shows a tronco with the name of JOSE MARQUEZ who was the father of FELIPE MARQUEZ, who was the father of JOSE ANTONIO MARQUEZ, who was the father of FELIX MARQUEZ, who was the father of MARIA AGRIPITA MARQUEZ (la pretensa). The record also shows FELIPE's brother, FRANCISCO MARQUEZ, who was the father of MARIA JOSEFA MARQUEZ, who was the mother of JUAN ANTONIO FLORES, who was the father of JOSE GREGORIO FLORES (el pretenso).

The record can be found:

www.guadalajaradispensas.com
1803 FHL Source Film #168128
image #263, image #269 tronco

Thank you, Claudia.

Still searching in Colotlan,

Rita Navarro
Bakersfield, CA

Do you have a technical background? Have you worked on websites before or
would like to learn to do so? We are an all volunteer group and as such,
the maintenance of the Nuestros Ranchos site falls on just a couple of
shoulders that could use some help.

If you have any experience in programming, content management systems, MySQL
databases, your skills could be very valuable to the Nuestros Ranchos
community. The website is in dire need of some maintenance and updates and
unless we can get more volunteers, we may need to hire programmers to keep
the site alive. In the spirit of volunteerism this would be your
opportunity to give a little back and help us keep this group free from the
solicitation of financial support.

If you can help, please use the contact form to contact Arturo Ramos or send
an email to moderator [at] nuestrosranchos.org.

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¿Tienes una formación técnica? ¿Has trabajado en sitios web antes o le
gustaría aprender a hacerlo? Somos un grupo de voluntarios de todo y como
tal, el mantenimiento del sitio Nuestros Ranchos cae en sólo un par de
hombros que podría utilizar alguna ayuda.

Si usted tiene alguna experiencia programación, sistemas de administración
de contenido, bases de datos MySQL, tus habilidades podrían ser muy valiosas
para la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos. El sitio web está en extrema
necesidad de mantenimiento y actualización de algunos y si no podemos
conseguir a más voluntarios, es posible que debamos contratar programadores
para mantener vivo el sitio. En el espíritu de voluntariado que esta sería
su oportunidad para dar un poco atrás y ayúdenos a mantener este grupo libre
de la solicitud de apoyo financiero.

Si puedes ayudar, utilice el formulario de contacto contacto con Arturo
Ramos o enviar un correo electrónico al moderador [arroba]
nuestrosranchos.org.

Do you have a technical background? Have you worked on websites before or
would like to learn to do so? We are an all volunteer group and as such,
the maintenance of the Nuestros Ranchos site falls on just a couple of
shoulders that could use some help.

If you have any experience in programming, content management systems, MySQL
databases, your skills could be very valuable to the Nuestros Ranchos
community. The website is in dire need of some maintenance and updates and
unless we can get more volunteers, we may need to hire programmers to keep
the site alive. In the spirit of volunteerism this would be your
opportunity to give a little back and help us keep this group free from the
solicitation of financial support.

If you can help, please use the contact form to contact Arturo Ramos or send
an email to moderator [at] nuestrosranchos.org.

=========================================

¿Tienes una formación técnica? ¿Has trabajado en sitios web antes o le
gustaría aprender a hacerlo? Somos un grupo de voluntarios de todo y como
tal, el mantenimiento del sitio Nuestros Ranchos cae en sólo un par de
hombros que podría utilizar alguna ayuda.

Si usted tiene alguna experiencia programación, sistemas de administración
de contenido, bases de datos MySQL, tus habilidades podrían ser muy valiosas
para la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos. El sitio web está en extrema
necesidad de mantenimiento y actualización de algunos y si no podemos
conseguir a más voluntarios, es posible que debamos contratar programadores
para mantener vivo el sitio. En el espíritu de voluntariado que esta sería
su oportunidad para dar un poco atrás y ayúdenos a mantener este grupo libre
de la solicitud de apoyo financiero.

Si puedes ayudar, utilice el formulario de contacto contacto con Arturo
Ramos o enviar un correo electrónico al moderador [arroba]
nuestrosranchos.org.

Just curious, but does anyone know if there's any Mexican Inquisition documents online on Familysearch.com, or elsewhere that we can look at?

Chris Pineda

The confirmation Book ( there is only one )for the Villa del Refugio,Zac.
Image no. 37 of 607.

There are no page numbers. This is at the bottom of the left page. I dont think it has anything to do with Confirmation. I only recognize a few words.
here is the link

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15089-1284-27?cc=1804458&wc=…

this is my translation.

J. Jesus Serna y Anto. Serna hijos de D. Domingo Serna, los 11 pesos 84 cent. abonaron (to pay or Credit)4 ??? 8 ???, ????ando ?o el Domingo que ??? 8 ???? y ?????........???????? D. Domingo Serna y ???? por Jesus Serna y Anto. (Ruiz or Rodg.)y Anto. Serna (Autro) ???? ?? Pedro y ????? Hernadz. ?????.

I'm having a hard time trying to decipher exactly what my great-great-great grandfather's birth record says. I know the following information:
"En la Iglesia Parroquial del pueblo de Tonalá, a veinte de Agosto de mil ochocientos nueve...... D. Jose Eugenio Moreno, bautizé solemnamente a José Lorenzo de Jesús.....hijo legítimo de Jose Maria Chavez y Maria Valentina...... Son Los abuelos paternos, Franco Chavez y Maria ??"
Some parts are easy to read, others are difficult. I feel I'm missing lots of information that I can't make out. Help would be appreciated. (Jose Lorenzo de Jesús was the father of Cenobio Chavez, who was the father of Bernardino Chavez.)
Thanks,
Bernie

Hello Everyone,

I'm asking for help. I can't see to find any information on Cristobal (Xptobal) de Lomelin. He should be from the late 1600's. I know he got married in Jalostotitlan in 1716 and fathered several children there. But I cannot find where he was from or his birthday. Can someone give me a hand ? thanks

I have been reconcidering my practice of recording page numbers, entry number for the person (If given), and also the IMAGE NUMBER. I have started to wonder if this a bad idea due to the fact that there may be online updates which may move the entry to a different image Number.. your thoughts ?

Necesito ayuda, no entiendo las palabras que dice de que murio? Muchas gracias, Nora

Hello,
I'm wondering if anyone has any information about Urbano Contreras and/or Josefa Velasco? Both were born around 1680-1690. I have found evidence that they or their descendants lived in southern Zacatecas and possibly in Guanajuato and Jalisco. It's possible that there are several couples with the same names around this time, but I believe that the same family moved around a lot.

Below is the baptism for one of their children, but I haven't found other online records for them in Monterey.

Thank you--Arturo

name: Juan Joseph Contreras Velas
baptism/christening date: 18 Mar 1711
baptism/christening place: SAGRARIO METROPOLITANO,MONTERREY,NUEVO LEON,MEXICO
father's name: Vrbano De Contreras
mother's name: Josepha De Velas

film: 605147
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159380-30568-79?cc=1410092&w…

Thanks for any translations..
The entry is from Villa Del Refugio, Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Zac.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-14291-97?cc=1804458&wc…

Marriage MAY 5 1790 Image number 108 of 669 Images. Jose Simon Rojas y Ma. de Jesus
I have unfamiliarity with some of the Abbreviations. My reading Follows.

En 5 de Mayo de 90. Yo el ??? Juan Jose Dias ******* a ????? Rojas con Maria de Jesus ??? de este Puo ??? Jose Alejo Eluterio, y Maria Josefa Migl Guadalaxara y Xavier Monico y lo firme con el Sor cura

My questions ..1. Is Simon the name of the groom Rojas ? 2. What is the Abbreviation after the bride Ma. de Jesus. Is it an abreviation for a last name (Otn a) (9tn a) ?? 3. What is the significance of the names that follow the groom and bride.

I have seen this abbrev. Otna or something that looks like a curvy 9tna .. It was seen in my recent post and again in another post following a persons name..What is this .. isnt there a book published that has abbreviations listed ?