Francisco De Pedroza married Juana De La Serda on 1745 in Teocaltiche, jalisco. His father's name is listed as Santiago De Pedroza but mother's name not listed, does anyone have Santigo on on their family tree?
Esteban Pedroza
Hello,
My name is Jesús Pedroza, and I am working on my maternal side of our family tree.
My Grandparents were Jesús María Padilla born in San Juan de los Lagos on September 12, 1913 and Josefina Campos born in Miami, Arizona on March 26, 1917.
My grandfather's parents were Eleuterio Padilla and Jovita Padilla
My grandmother's parents were Miguel Campos and Antonia Campos
And they were all born in or around San Juan de los Lagos. That is all I know.
I hope someone can help me. I'd greatly appreciate it!
Hola,
Mi nombre es Jesús Pedroza, y estoy trabajando en mi lado materno de nuestro árbol genealógico.
Mis abuelos eran María Jesús Padilla nació en San Juan de los Lagos el 12 de septiembre 1913 y Josefina Campos nació en Miami, Arizona el 26 de marzo 1917.
Los padres de mi abuelo eran Eleuterio Padilla y Jovita Padilla
Los padres de mi abuela eran Miguel Campos y Antonia Campos
Y todos ellos nacieron en o cerca de San Juan de los Lagos. Eso es todo lo que sé.
Espero que alguien me puede ayudar. Yo te lo agradecería mucho!
Hello,
My name is Jesús Pedroza, with assistance of a genealogist we have been unable to find our further ancestors past Santiago de Pedroza who died before July 1656, married to Juana Bautista de Alva and were the parents of Marcos de Pedroza, Nicolás de Pedroza, Juan de Pedroza and Leonor de Pedroza.
If anyone has any information or can direct me to any important information, I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you!
Hola,
Mi nombre es Jesús Pedroza, con la asistencia de un genealogista no hemos sido capaces de encontrar a nuestros antepasados más pasados de Santiago de Pedroza que murió antes de julio de 1656, casado con Juana Bautista de Alva y fueron los padres de Marcos de Pedroza, Nicolás de Pedroza, Juan Pedroza y de Leonor de Pedroza.
Si alguien tiene alguna información o me puede dirigir a cualquier información importante, se lo agradeceria mucho! ¡Gracias!
Hello
This source for reading the abbreviations in Spanish Colonial documents was mentioned earlier, but the person who wrote about did not have the link to it. Here it is:
http://www.nuestragenealogia.es/NGEN-Archivos/Documentos/01%20-%20Docum…
So if you are like me, new to this research area, and struggling to make sense of the old texts, this document might be of some help.
Regards
Denise
Joseph,
Raul Longoria's website really is a great genealogy site. I have one line
of de la Garza's that I had traced to the early 1700's in San Luis Potosi,
and fortunately for me, it tied to one of Raul Longoria's de la Garza's
lines. I e-mailed Raul and he was able to point me to the documents I
needed to expand my tree by 5-7 generations. This line connects back to the
early Spanish families of Nuevo Leon.
Maria Cortez
Found this bit of info on one of the older Somos Primos issues:
>
>
>
> Longoria Family in Nueva Espana
> http://www.raullongoria.net/newspain.htm
> The webmaster is Raul Longoria raullongoria@yahoo.com
> Sent by John Inclan
>
> This is an amazing website. There is so much information. It gives the
> overall history and family connections for the first four generation of
> Longoria into Nueva Espana in 1603. The family settled in northern Mexico,
> Zacatecas, Monterrey, Saltillo. If you lines in Northern Mexico, don't miss
> searching on this site. Historical information goes back to the 900s.
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
>
Hi, I am Christie. I have been doing my family genealogy for the last several years. I majority of my family roots are out of Nuevo Leon (Trevino, de la Garza, Montemayor, etc..) if anyone is needing any direction in that area, please feel free to contact me.
My Current project is for an Uncle. His parents never spoke of their families that they had left in Mexico when they came to the states. I had very little to work with. Fortunately, I have found quite a bit on his paternal line thus far.
I am however 'stalled" on JOSE AGUILERA who married ANNA MARIA DE CHAVEZ. I have found 4 records containg their names:
1. Juana Maria Aguilera (baptized 4/22/1738 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; died UNKNOWN)
2. Ygnacia Gertrudis Rosalia Aguilera (baptized 2/3/1743 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; died UNKNOWN)
3. (Marriage Record) Manuela Aguilera (baptized UNKNOWN; died UNKNOWN) She married Domingo Queseda (born UNKNOWN; died UNKNOWN) on 4/12/1758 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; son of Joseph Queseda & Antonia Gutierrez
4. **Juan Joseph Aguilera (baptized UNKNOWN; died UNKNOWN) He married Maria Antonia Esqueda (baptized 7/29/1738 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; died 11/29/1769 Teocaltiche, Jalisco) on 9/27/1758 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; daughter of Xavier Esqueda & Anna Maria de Carvajal
I have gone thru the Teocaltiche & Aguascalientes Church records. These records are all that I have found (am I over looking??) Is there maybe another Parish I should search in that might contain more records? According to the they were residents of San Marcos.
ANY help will be appreciated!!
Thank You!!
Hello all--
I don't chime in here often with postings, as I am dedicating most of my genealogy time to researching, editing and managing the GuadalajaraDispensas.com blog as I grow my family tree, but I find it much beyond my control not to respond to the recent postings implying piracy of genealogical data (again).
As some of you have experienced--the index project at GuadalajaraDispensas.com is an invaluable tool for anyone conducting family history in many areas of Mexico--useful to the novice and advanced alike.
I started the above-mentioned indexing as a 'personal research project,' and I kept copious notes on my laptop as I viewed hundreds of images at Familysearch.org. Then, an awful thing happened--I lost ALL OF MY NOTES...dozens of hours of work...lost to a computer failure. Yes, my 'personal and private' work was lost forever and I would have to work harder and longer now for the same list of names that I had already compiled.
That experience prompted me to keep my notes 'on the cloud,' so to speak, and so an idea was born. Why not publish my findings on the Internet so I will never lose them again? And a RADICAL THOUGHT entered my mind: Why not share my indices so that others can find their ancestors. My logic was not motivated by altruism, but by a genuine desire to collaborate.
I predicted that if someone else advanced THEIR tree...when they did, they would post their findings at nuestrosranchos.org and share their info...and THAT NEW INFO shared would complete another puzzle for me, or for someone else who would then also collaborate, and thus I would have new info to advance MY TREE. I envisioned a Win-Win-Win scenario all-around. And it has been just so.
Although not a perfectly polished site--the GuadalajaraDispensas.com would have a permanent home online, available to be viewed by ANYONE AND EVERYONE who had Internet access. FOR FREE.
I worked on this project for months--alone. Then, one day, a member of Nuestros Ranchos offered to assist in the indexing work. I never requested volunteers. I never asked anyone to do any indexing on my behalf. Then, a second person came forward...then a third...and then a fourth.
To date, we have had a total of TEN (10) volunteers doing indexing of Dispensa documents for everyone's consumption. How many of your brick walls would still be up if it were not for the generosity of these volunteers?
As some of you may relate, there is a frustration that builds after knowing that so many others before us have already searched through these SAME thousands of documents and have the capacity to share their knowledge--but either don't share, or have published obscure works that nobody has access to due to limited publication. This idea compelled me to compare the differences between the modern researcher versus a researcher twenty or thirty years ago.
Yes, in Mexico twenty or thirty years ago, only some very few people had access to the records most of the World population of Mexican descent now can view easily online. Twenty or thirty years ago, it cost a researcher in Mexico much more time and money to assemble a family tree of only maybe four or five generations than it costs anyone nowadays. I see how this disparity has perhaps fueled a sense of ownership in some older researchers.
Individuals in Mexico who have had the privilege to view and possess original documents and family heirlooms should consider themselves fortunate--but not unparalleled. You see, Technology has evened the score for the rest of us.
I understand how some who are stuck in the old paradigm feel a sense of being robbed, and all I can say is that we are living in the year 2013. Get with the program. You do not own anything and no one is stealing from you, or robbing you of anything. [I am speaking of information on ancestors who lived 100 years ago or more.] Information technology is advancing at such a rapid rate, that in a few years' time, in terms of genealogy, most of the developed World will have access to their 'personal' family tree going back many-many generations--without doing a minute of research themselves. Get with the program or just don’t participate in any forums like NuestrosRanchos or anywhere else on the Internet. You won’t be much missed.
I recall a comment that was posted here by a respected Mexican researcher. He said that (and I am paraphrasing)...there were some genealogists who work without any purpose--these are the ones who assemble projects of general utility for the community as a whole--but that, although meritorious, they 'have no grace.' I believe he was directing that comment at me, as he was responding to a post I wrote dealing with the issue of Genealogy and piracy.
Now let us define 'Grace.' Grace is: elegance or refinement. I am sure most of you will agree that our GuadalajaraDispensas.com volunteers are all the epitome of Grace, in the complete definition of the word when compared to those who hoard their supposedly personal information and heirlooms.
My humble opinion.
-Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com
I just learned about this service:
https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services
-Raquel
Thank you, Joseph, for passing on a very informative website, I spent most of
my afternoon reading it.
Thank you for sharing it with us.
Ann M. Gutierrez
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hola! a todos recurro a ustedes recibi este mensaje y estoy en shock no se que pensar menos contestar
Date: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:36 PM
Managers of Juan Gomez Garcia-´Rubio,
saludos ....quiero hacer saver ....que no mas info...va ha ser aderida a este sitio
ya que hay personas que por apellidarse gomez ...han adoptado a mi fam..como la suya ...no mas... no mas..me hago entender......
yo tengo en mi propiedad 2 baules , 3 petaquillas ..de mi fam..
con actas de fe de bautismos.. matrimonios ..titulos ..titulos de propiedades
biblias de mi fam..puresa de sangre..etc..etc..y todo eso es personal y privado.
..adios... y buena suerte...O.gomez
I am contacting you about this profile: http://www.geni.com/people/Juan-Gomez-Garcia-%C2%B4Rubio/6000000008...
Sincerely,
gomez
Thank you Joseph. It is the Popul since it is in Jalisco. Ropula was an
error on my part. After studying it further it looks like Populo??
Mickey
In a message dated 9/14/2010 7:01:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
makas@nc.rr.com writes:
I went here: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm and
found a Populo in Puebla and a Popul in Jalisco
Nothing for Ropula
Nothing for Topulo
joseph
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MMG8938@aol.com wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of a ranch called the Rancho del Populo or
Rancho del
> Ropula; Rancho del Topulo??? This is in Jalisco...I figure somewhere
> close to Guadalajara/Tonala region. Would really appreciate help on
this
> question.
>
> Mickey
With many stories they can get jumbled through the generations. My father's aunt married into the de Alba family from San Juan, so I have done a little research. I have a Jose Teodoro de Alba baptized 02 Apr 1854 in San Juan whose parents were Gabino & Inez de Alba. Gabino's mother was a Gonzales: Ma Dolores Gonzales. His father was Ramon de Alba, so there still may be some truth to the story. In my research as I told Steve, some stories turn out to be true, and some not so true. :)
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:36:57 -0500
From: "Joseph Puentes"
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alba family
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Not the same year or mother's surname but same date and month in San Juan:
name: Jose Teodoro Alba Alba
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Apr 1854
baptism/christening place: SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
father's name: Gabino Alba
mother's name: Ynes Alba
indexing project (batch) number: C60340-2
system origin: Mexico-ODM
source film number: 220661
reference number:
Citing this Record
"Mexico, Baptisms, 1560-1950," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J9Y9-LPX : accessed 14 Jan 2013),
Jose Teodoro Alba Alba, 02 Apr 1854; citing SAN JUAN DE LOS
LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 220661.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-
> bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Steve Compton
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:41 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alba family
>
> I'm trying to find more information about the family of my great
grandfather. His name
> was Teodoro Alba. Most of the information we have about his origins come
from stories
> passed down from him to his children, so they should be regarded as more
legend than
> fact. This includes that he was born in or near Guadalajara around 1856 or
1857. His
> father, whose surname was Alba, had stowed away on a ship from Spain to
Mexico. His
> mother's surname was Gonzales and she was of Mayan descent. He had several
siblings,
> but we don't know their names. At some point the father left and returned
to Spain.
> Teodoro joined the Mexican army while still a teenager, deserted and
crossed into Texas
> sometime between 1875 and 1880. There he became an accomplished cowboy. He
> gradually adapted the American spelling of Alby.
>
>
>
> He married Mary Ellen Marks in Bonham, Texas on October 8, 1891. They had
7 children,
> 4 of whom lived. His wife Mary Ellen died shortly after 1910.
> Around 1920, he and his children settled in Bixby, Oklahoma where they
came to own
> several businesses. He was affectionately known to everyone in this small
town as "Dad"
> Alby. His citizenship paper in 1938 describes him as 81 years of age; a
white male of
> medium complexion; blue eyes; grey hair; five feet, three inches in height
and widowed.
> He died in Bixby on December 18, 1943.
>
>
>
> Some in the family believe was actually born in San Juan de los Lagos. I
have found a
> birth record for a Teodoro Alva Terrones born on April 2, 1857 in that
location.
>
>
>
> Any leads would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> scompton
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:05:52 -0600
From: Armando
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alba family
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Teodoro Alva Terrones doesn't line up with your great grandfather saying
that his mother's surname was Gonz?lez. What does line up is that the
mother of Teodoro Alva Terrones has relatives whose baptisms show them to
be indios. There weren't any Mayas in Jalisco but your great grandfather
likely meant Mexican Indians.
Teodoro Alva Terrones was the great grandson of Juan Jos? de Alba and
Antonia Gertrudis de Esparza y Fuentes. Juan Jos? de Alba was an hijo
natural of Clara de Alba. Therefore the paternal surname of Juan Jos? de
Alba is not known.
Jose Teodoro Alba Alba baptized 2 Apr 1854 doesn't line up with any of the
maternal surnames being Gonz?lez nor does it line up with the mother being
Indian nor does it line up with the age of your great grandfather. All four
of the grandparents of Jose Teodoro Alba were documented as espa?oles
meaning Jose Teodoro Alba Alba they didn't have recent ancestors that were
indios.
No matter what, if you don't have the first and last name of both of the
parents of your great grandfather there is no way to know for sure who his
parents were. There are many baptisms that are missing from the records.
You could ask a relative that descends through the paternal line to get a
37 marker Y-DNA test. The two of you could also get a Family Finder test.
However, there are no guarantees that you would find anything definitive.
For those tests to work to your advantage other people with documented
trees would have had to have taken the tests. However, it does seem to be
one of the few options that you have left to try.
Regards,
Armando
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Steve Compton wrote:
> I'm trying to find more information about the family of my great
> grandfather. His name was Teodoro Alba. Most of the information we have
> about his origins come from stories passed down from him to his children,
> so
> they should be regarded as more legend than fact. This includes that he was
> born in or near Guadalajara around 1856 or 1857. His father, whose surname
> was Alba, had stowed away on a ship from Spain to Mexico. His mother's
> surname was Gonzales and she was of Mayan descent. He had several siblings,
> but we don't know their names. At some point the father left and returned
> to
> Spain. Teodoro joined the Mexican army while still a teenager, deserted and
> crossed into Texas sometime between 1875 and 1880. There he became an
> accomplished cowboy. He gradually adapted the American spelling of Alby.
>
>
>
> He married Mary Ellen Marks in Bonham, Texas on October 8, 1891. They had 7
> children, 4 of whom lived. His wife Mary Ellen died shortly after 1910.
> Around 1920, he and his children settled in Bixby, Oklahoma where they came
> to own several businesses. He was affectionately known to everyone in this
> small town as "Dad" Alby. His citizenship paper in 1938 describes him as 81
> years of age; a white male of medium complexion; blue eyes; grey hair; five
> feet, three inches in height and widowed. He died in Bixby on December 18,
> 1943.
>
>
>
> Some in the family believe was actually born in San Juan de los Lagos. I
> have found a birth record for a Teodoro Alva Terrones born on April 2, 1857
> in that location.
>
>
>
> Any leads would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> scompton
>
>
>
Here is a link to the record of death for Ana Gabay, wife of Lope Ruiz de Esparza. The date is already known, there are three Gedcom entries with it, however I could not find a link or reference to the primary source (could be there, I am just not terribly computer savvy)- but happened to come across it through Family Search. Anyway, just in case, here's the link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-144905-84?cc=1410092…
Mexico, Catholic Church Records
Aguascalientes
Aguascalientes
Sagrario
Defunciones, 1620-1701
Image 57 of 280
Regards
Denise Fastrup
Hello fellow members. Due to a system crash, I had the misfortune of losing about a dozen lists of extracted names of Guadalajara Dispensas similar to what I posted here: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/19680
After getting over the shock and loss, this weekend I decided to start keeping my notes online via a blog. I think it will be useful to most researchers because the blog also has a custom search bar to make it easier for you to search names or pueblos. I am happy to share with you all here:
I have uploaded 10 files so far, and hope to regularly update the blog as time permits. In the meantime, if you have comments, I would appreciate it if you would PRIVATE MESSAGE me, and I will do my best to respond.
I truly hope this is of some help to fellow members here and please do let me know how you think I can improve the site.
Saludos,
-C
Hello
I've been going through some really old records, and I think I see the name Sotelo and the place name Tarinbaro on the first two lines of this image:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18784-13289-57?cc=1883388&wc…
Can someone take a look and tell me what they think? Maybe even translate the first 4 lines?
Regards
Denise Fastrup
Managers of Juan Gomez Garcia-´Rubio,
saludos ....quiero hacer saver ....que no mas info...va ha ser aderida a este sitio
ya que hay personas que por apellidarse gomez ...han adoptado a mi fam..como la suya ...no mas... no mas..me hago entender......
yo tengo en mi propiedad 2 baules , 3 petaquillas ..de mi fam..
con actas de fe de bautismos.. matrimonios ..titulos ..titulos de propiedades
biblias de mi fam..puresa de sangre..etc..etc..y todo eso es personal y privado.
..adios... y buena suerte...O.gomez
I am contacting you about this profile: http://www.geni.com/people/Juan-Gomez-Garcia-%C2%B4Rubio/6000000008...
Sincerely,
gomez
Might any one have any info on the ancestor of mine he married Gertrudis Enriquez and i descend from their daughter Maria Ruiz wife of Xptoval Servantez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZXD-Y85
Hello All,
I was looking for a bit of direction. In search of more family details I am looking through Los Angeles death records. My great grandmother (born in Mexico died in Los Angeles ca) but cannot seem to locate her death record. I found the date but am looking for the image...however it seems the filed date, date of death, and record dates all differ. Does anyone know whether I should be looking by date of death?? last name?? filed date? ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED, THANKS IN ADVANCE!
Mazo
Primos, he leido que algunos estan ineresados en este aapellido, les dejo el link por si les es de utilidad
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20421-26031-50?cc=1860864…
Hasta esta pagina es la primera persona que veo con este apellido. Yo ando sobre los Sanchez-Castellanos y por casualidad lo vi.
Francisco Leonardo Mendoza (b. abt 1730 in Sombrerete, Zacatecas) married Maria Teresa Enriquez (b. abt 1740 in Huejucar, Jalisco) on 07 Jul 1760 in Colotlan, Jalisco.
Leonardo and Teresa are my 4th GGPs through my father Elias de Leon's lineage AND also my 5th GGPs through my mother Maria Del Trancito Carlos.
Joseph de Leon
Hello
I came across an entry with the names Mariana de Garibay wife of Diego Lopez in documents from Morelia in the latter half of the 1500's. I can see that some members are interested in the Garibays so here is the link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18784-13381-30?cc=1883388&wc…
Its in
Mexico, Michoacán, Cathol...Church Records, 1649-1909
Morelia
Arquidiócesis de Morelia
Información matrimonial y actas diversas 1555-1599
Image of 519 0f 675
And Diego Garibay and Joana de Solis on image 522 of the samme series of images.
I am no expert on colonial Spanish, so I cannot say what the entries are about, especially since this "book" is a collection of various kinds of documents.
The name "Conde de Coruna",the viceroy of New Spain, also turned up, on image 487 in a text signed by Pedro Gutierrez
And on image 486 one can see the signature of Marco Antonio Colonna, on an entry written at least partly in Italian. He was an Italian duke and also a general. No idea what his link is to Mexico...
Regards,
Denise Fastrup
Hello group,
I am Ed, and my familial research interest is in both Jalisco and Michoacan.
My maternal side is from Jalisco and around the late 19teens the family moved from Arandas to Irapuato. The family is in the 1930 Mexican Census and my aunts and mother actually still live in the house that lists their family in Irapuato. Anyways, the family moved to Irapuato via D.F. with a stopover in Salamanca., settling in Irapuato by the late twenties. My maternal grandfather Teofilo was a baker, born in Atotonilco el Alto (Morales Alvarez) on 9 Jan 1890 (have his birth both church and civil record) died in 1964 in Irapuato. My maternal grandmother Ramona (Patiño Angel) was born in Arandas, Jalisco on 17 Feb 1895 and died in Irapuato in 1988. They had about 15 children and my mother is number 12.
I’ve been pretty lucky with Family Search and have spent a considerable time on that side of the family.
Among the surnames from my grandfather side: Alvarez Flores, Albarez Casillas, Flores Gutierrez, Flores Marquez, Gutierrez Renteria; Morales Perez, Morales Varajas, Morales Munos, Varajas Lopes, Perez Valdivia, Peres Trujillo, Baldibia Lopes, Lopes Sanches; Villalpando, Sanchez, Villalpando, Placencia, Villalpando, Bela, Lopez, Garcia.
Among the surnames for my grandmother side (goes a bit further): Pati~o Lopez, Pati~o De La Torre, De La Torre Gutierrez, De La Torre Venabidez, Gutierrez de Hermosillo, de Hermosillo Mantel, Angel Rizo Lomelin Navarro, Quiroz Velasquez, Sallabedra Zarate, de Cordova Bermudes, Ornelas Angel, Basquez de Padilla, de Sallabedra de Albarado,
Oldest record I have is 1684 birth of Pedro de Sallabedra in Ayo el Chico, Jalisco.
Places: Arandas, Atotonilco el Alto, Jalostotitlan, San Miguel el Alto, San Diego de Alejandria, Ayo el Chico,
The Morales Alvarez Pati~o Angel ancestor report is here:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/BiblioRanger
About my user name:
“Biblio” – I am an academic librarian
“Ranger” – I am a former Army Ranger. Served in the 3d Ranger Battalion and 6th Ranger Training Battalion during the 80s.
Look forward to contributing and learning from this site.
Buenas noches a todos,
Me llamo Sergio Salés y nací en el D.F., pero la familia de mi abuela
paterna es de Jalisco hasta donde he podido encontrar alrededor de 1690. A
continuación pongo los datos que tengo en inglés.
Hi,
Mi name is Sergio Salés, and I am researching the following last names in
Jalisco.
*Guzman or de Gusman family: Tecolotlan, Tuxcacuesco, and Autlan 1690s-
1870s*
My ancestors Juan de Gusman (?-1701) and Luisa Gomes (?-1701) had their
last child Juan Antonio de Gusman in Tecolotlan, Jalisco in 1692. I have
not been able to get farther back. Juan Antonio married Maria Antonia de
Zambrano (1702-?) in Tuxcacuesco, Jalisco in 1723. They had Sebastian de
Gusman (c.1736-1796). Sebastian married Maria de Jesus Michel in
Tuxcacuesco in 1779. Their first child was Santos Guzmán (1779-c.1840) who
married Josefa de Amador (1784-1826) in Guadalajara in 1813. They had Jose
Maria Guzmán (1817-after 1875) in Autlan. José Maria married Rosa Araiza
(1822-after 1875) in Autlan in 1837. Jose Maria and Rosa had Pedro Guzman
Araiza. I have not found his baptism but calculate he was born around
1844, since he was 22 in 1866 when he married Maria Paula Melendez in
Autlan. Pedro and Paula had my great-grandmother Maria de Jesus Guzmán
Melendez in Guadalajara in 1879. She married Silverio Reyes López on 22
Oct 1908 in Guadalajara. They had my paternal grandmother María Elena
Reyes Guzmán in 1913 in Guadalajara, Jalisco. Mi abuela conoció a mi
abuelo Luis Salés Puigdollers en el D.F. alrededor de 1940.
*Araiza family: Tecolotlan, Jalisco 1690s-Autlan, Jalisco 1870s*
Juan de Arayza y Medina and Maria del Castillo had Christobal (often
spelled Xptoval) de Arayza y Medina around 1680. I have not yet found his
baptism. Christobal married Maria de Gusman (daughter of Juan de Gusman
and Luisa Gomes) in Tecolotlan in 1701. Christobal and Maria had Agustin
de Araiza Gusman in Autlan, but I have not found his baptism. I estimate
he had to be born between 1702 and 1732, since he married Maria Rita de
Puga Gonzalez-Corona in Autlan in 1753. They had Josse Maria Araiza in
around 1765, since he was 23 in 1788 at his engagement to Guadalupe
Nicolasa Moscoso in Autlan. They had Pedro José Araiza in Autlan in
1797. Pedro
José married Maria Juana Nepomucena Lopez-de-Toledo Anguiano in Autlan in
1816. They had Rosa Araiza, who married into the Guzman family.
*Melendez (or Melendres) family: Villa de Purificacion, Jalisco
(1780s-1860s)*
Miguel Francisco Melendres (?-c.1806) and Maria Josefa Dominguez (?-c.1806)
had Joseph Miguel Ylario in Villa de Purificacion in 1786. Jose Miguel
married Maria Lauriana Magallon in Colima, Colima in 1806. They had Jose
Nabor Melendres Magallon in Villa de Purificacion in 1809. Nabor married
Juliana Araiza Quintero sometime before 1833. I have no info on Juliana’s
age. I do know that Juliana’s parents were Miguel Mauricio de Araiza
(?-1836) (Miguel Mauricio is probably related to the Autlan Araizas, but
not proof yet) and Maria Rita Quintero (c.1800-?). Nabor and Juliana had
Maria Paula Melendez Araiza around 1847 in Villa de Purificacion.
*Reyes family: Ahualulco and Tala, Jalisco 1740s-1870s*
Josef Cayetano Reyes (c.1746-?) and Juana Mariana Gonsales married in 1766
in Ahualulco de Mercado, Jalisco. They had Pedro Antonio Reyes in 1776
also in Ahualulco. Pedro Antonio married Maria Gertrudis Delgado in
1796. They
has Josef Tomas Reyes in 1812. Tomas married Secundina Días Nuñes around
1839. Their fourth child was Santiago Reyes Días, who married Gregoria
López Dávalos in 1872 in Ahualulco. They had by great-grandfather Silverio
Reyes López around 1883. Oddly, I have not been able to find much of any
information on Silverio. I know his name and age from his daughter, my
paternal grandmother. I do know he married Maria de Jesus Guzmán Melendez
in Guadalajara Oct 22, 1908. They had my grandmother María de Jesús Reyes
Guzmán in Guadalajara in 1913.
*L**ópez family, Hostotipaquillo, Jalisco 1840s*
This is the family that has been hardest to get any info. I know that
Gregoria López Dávalos was the daughter of Cecilio López and Basilia
Dávalos. Gregoria was born around 1843. I have not been able to find her
baptism or Cecilio and Basilia’s marriage.
Ésta es la familia conla que menos éxito he tenido. Sólo sé que Gregoria
López Dávalos nació alrededor de 1843 en Hostotipaquillo, Jalisco. También
sé que fue hija de Cecilio López y de Basilia Dávalos. Pero no sé cuando
de casaron. Gregoria se casó en 1872 con Santiago Reyes en Autlán, Jalisco.
Saludos a todos y un abrazo a mis parientes!
Sergio Salés
While researching my McNeal side of the family I discovered that both of my parents are distant cousins to Bejaman Harrison.
On my mothers side (Reynoso Hurtado)through Inez Alfons De Ayala (1330-1395) and Don Diego De Toledo (1334 – 1418) and on my fathers side through Sir Walter Mountjoy Blount (1420-1474)and Ellen Byron (1416-1467)
Then it dawned on me and I looked a little harder and indeed my parents are very distant cousins.