The online source for his genealogy going possibly back 500B.C. is on www.onegreatfamily.com, If you have subscribed for one great family (abt $15 a month) I encourage you to look for Diego. -Daniel A. Mendez del Camino
...Howdy all you LERMA researchers from Zacatecas. I just wanted you to know that I came across an article about a Solomon LERMA, in our archives in Oklahoma City, OK. I thought about all of ya, so I am including the article here. Heck, I wished at this time I could add this fine young man to my ancestors. Hopefully (I know it is a HUGE chance) one of you might have him in your database. BIF...I have added several obits to the rootsweb.com, Jalisco, Aquascalientes & Zacatecas boards. I wasn't for sure whether I should add them here or not. Okay, back to Solomon:
Oklahoma City, OK, newspaper archives dated:
12-23-1923
p.1
Mexican Youth Proves He Could Stand Great Test
Headboard Erected by Col. Sam Robertson Tells
Story of Marvelous Bravery of Fifteen-Year-Old Boy
EDITOR'S NOTE-The following story will interest Oklahoma City
overseas men who knew Colonel Sam Robertson. This little document
is one of these poignant human stories which grip the heart. It is
from The Brownsville, Texas, Herald, and was passed on by
General Roy Hoffman.
In the American National cemetery at Romange, France, lies the
body of Solomon Lerma, a Mexican boy, a native of the state of
Zacatecas, a derelict from the Villista army, which attacked Matamoros,
a hero who risked his life to save that of an American friend, and
who died in February, 1918, in a hospital in France after being
twice wounded and gassed. He was 15 years of age at the time of
his death.
Major M.T. Todd, now medical officer at Fort Brown, was assigned
to receive the bodies of American soldiers as they were being con-
centrated for burial in the American National cemeteries in France.
All marks of identification were brought to him by the details which
were removing the bodies from their temporary burial places on the
battle line, and one day his attention was called to a headboard
which was brought in with the body of a mere boy. The inscription
on the headboard read as follows:
HERE LIES
SOLOMON LERMA
MASCOT E Co. 28th U.S. INF.
15 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME
DEATH ABOUT FEB., 1918. A
NATIVE OF THE STATE OF
ZACATECAS, MEXICO, BUT A
CITIZEN OF SAN BENITO,
TEXAS. HE WAS ADOPTED BY
E CO. 26TH U.S. INF.
AFTER THE FIGHT NEAR
RANCH ANAQUITAS, TEXAS,
SEPT. 1915.
THIS SLAB ERECTED BY HIS
OLD COMPADRE LT. COL. SAM
ROBERTSON, C OF E US ARMY
WHO OWES HIS LIFE TO THIS
BOY. NO GAMER PERSON
EVER LIVED.
ADIOS MUCHACHO MIO.
This inscription was so peculiar that Major Todd took a photograph
of the headboard, and intended when he returned to the United States
to find Colonel Robertson and present the photograph to him. He did
not have the time to do this immediately upon his return, and after
being assigned to Fort Brown learned that Colonel Robertson was
now sheriff of Cameron county.
SOLOMON LERMA, whose headboard was inscribed by Colonel Robertson
while the American troops were engaged in the fiercest fighting of the
world war, was a derelict from the army of General Banco which attacked
Matamoros in 1914. He had accompanied the army from the state of
Zacatecas and while fighting was on near Matamoros, the lad, the less
than 12 years of age, got across the Rio Grande, and finally found
shelter with a Mexican family near Rancho Anaquitas, occupying his time
by herding a flock of goats in the chaparral.
In 1915 Colonel Robertson was building a highway through the
brush from the Browne tract to Buena Vista club house on Laguna Madre,
and he and the boy became fast friends. On September 15, while
Colonel Robertson was driving along the road to the club house
several Mexican bandits opened fire on him, and he was forced to
leave his car and take to the brush. He found a safe haven in a
clump of ebony trees, and opened fire on the bandits, who were eveidently
bent on looting the car. The fight started about 3 o'clock and some
time later the colonel heard someone creeping through the brush and
turned to find Solomon Lerma, who had heard the firing and came to
learn of the cause. The colonel's supply of cartridges was running
low, and Solomon crept to the car, brought back a large supply, and
while the colonel's fire kept the bandits under cover he again went
to the car and brought a canteen of water.
From 3 o'clock until after dark the colonel held the bandits at bay.
Shortly after dark a detachment from E Company, 26th Infantry, which
was then stationed at Harlingen and San Benito, and a number of
cowboys from Buena Vista ranch, accompanied by Deputy United States
Marshal Harold Jefferds, arrived on the scene and the bandits were
driven off.
The members of E Company adopted the Mexican waif on the spot,
taking him to Harlingen, where he remained, a permanent fixture in
the camp, until the 26th, Colonel Bullard's famous regiment, was
ordered to France, shortly after the United States entered the conflict.
No American regiment saw harder fighting than the 26th Infantry.
It was one of the first American organizations to enter the trenches,
and its record is replete with invidual and organized acts of heroism
which have never been equalled. Through all the fighting in which the
regiment engaged, Solomon Lerma took a part which won the respect
and friendship of his older comrades. He was the special protege
of Captain Kilbourn of E Company, who since the war has been promoted
to colonel, and was formerly inspection officer for the Eighth Corps
area with headquarters at San Antonio, but is now stationed at Fort
Benning, Ga.
Twice during the fight in which E Company engaged, Solomon Lerma,
was wounded, and later was badly gassed. After his recovery Captain
Kilbourn, who had also been injured, placed the boy in charge of
the mess sergeant of the company, Joe Hoeflin, now jailor at the
Cameron county jail. The boy never fully recovered from the effects
of the gassing, and contracted pneumonia, dying in a hospital in the
Arrencourt sector. Colonel Robertson was building a railroad in
that sector at the time, and learning of the death of his old
"compadre" prepared the headboard which marked his grave.
"No gamer person ever lived," was the comment of Colonel Robertson.
"Solomon proved that when he crept to my automobile to secure
cartridges when I was holding off the bandits, and he proved it
times without number in France. There was not a member of old
E Company who did not shed a tear when he learned that Solomon Lerma
had 'gone west.' I am certainly glad to learn that the body of
the little Mexican hero has been buried in the American National
cemetery in France, and I doubt if there is one in the cemetery who
was more loyal to the Stars and Stripes, or who was more loyal to
his friends than Solomon Lerma."
As per Bill Figueroa's thought I did a key word search at www.familysearch.org and came up with this list of Padrones for our area of research:
Title search by keyword
padrones Mexico
Informaciones matrimoniales y negocios diversos, 1647-1808 Iglesia Católica. Arquidiócesis de Morelia (México)
Padrones, 1741-1831 Iglesia Católica. Arquidiócesis de Morelia (México)
Padrones, 1639-1875 Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México)
Registros parroquiales, 1632-1979 Iglesia Católica. San Diego (Huejuquilla el Alto, Jalisco)
Registros parroquiales, 1660-1960 Iglesia Católica. San Francisco de Asís (Zacoalco de Torres, Jalisco)
Registros parroquiales, 1624-1980 Iglesia Católica. San Gregorio Magno (Mazapil, Zacatecas)
Padrones, 1754-1887 Iglesia Católica (Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas)
Registros parroquiales, 1778-1959 Iglesia Católica. San Miguel (Yahualica, Jalisco)
Padrones, 1754-1866 Iglesia Católica. San Sebastián Mártir (San Sebastián del Oeste, Jalisco)
Padrones, 1841 Iglesia Católica (Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas)
Registros parroquiales, 1726-1979 Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora del Rosario (Totatiche, Jalisco)
Registros parroquiales, 1814-1977 Iglesia Católica. Santiago Apóstol (Moyahua, Zacatecas)
Documentos eclesiásticos, 1772-1784 Iglesia Católica. Arzobispado de Guadalajara (México)
Registros parroquiales, 1627-1959 Iglesia Católica (Nochistlán, Zacatecas)
Registros parroquiales, 1705-1948 Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora de Belén (Asientos, Aguascalientes)
Registros parroquiales, 1666-1957 Iglesia Católica. San Francisco de Asís (Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco)
Registros parroquiales, 1651-1959 Iglesia Católica. Santuario de Guadalupe (Sayula, Jalisco)
Censo, 1856-1885 Magdalena (Jalisco). Registro Civil
Registros parroquiales, 1859-1969 Iglesia Católica. Santiago (Chimaltitán, Jalisco)
Registros parroquiales, 1739-1978 Iglesia Católica. San José (Bolaños, Jalisco)
Registros parroquiales, 1778-1951 Iglesia Católica. San Miguel (Yahualica, Jalisco)
Padrones, 1764-1798 Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora de la Asunción (Jalostotitlán, Jalisco)
Padrones, 1807-1922 Iglesia Católica (Pánuco, Zacatecas)
Documentos eclesiásticos, 1865-1878,1920 Iglesia Católica. San José de Analco (Guadalajara, Jalisco)
Documentos eclesiásticos, 1931 Iglesia Católica. Resurrección (Degollado, Jalisco)
Padrones, 1881 Iglesia Católica. San Miguel (Cocula, Jalisco)
Registros parroquiales, 1814-1955 Iglesia Católica. La Santísima Trinidad (Villa Hidalgo, Jalisco)
Documentos eclesiásticos, 1803 Iglesia Católica. San Sebastián (Techaluta, Jalisco)
Documentos eclesiásticos, 1810,1874 Iglesia Católica. Santa María de los Lagos (Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco)
Padrones, 1836 Iglesia Católica (Talpa de Allende, Jalisco)
Has anyone had a look at this film? I ordered it a couple of years ago and found it confusing. Then again I had just started my research and most things were confusing. If anyone has ordered it and found it of value I would appreciate your comments on this film.
thanks,
joseph
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Title
Indice de padrones de México
Authors
Archivo General de la Nación (Distrito Federal, México) (Added Author)
Notes
Fotocopia del manuscrito en el Archivo General de la Nación de México.
Index for v. 1-108 of the Mexican census records at the Archivo General de la Nación in Mexico.
Indice de los v. 1-108 del Ramo de Padrones en el Archivo General de la Nación en México. El índice de padrones está dividido en distritos. Los distritos que están juntos no siempre se encuentran en el mismo estado. Se listan todos los lugares bajo el distrito. La información lo dirige al volumen y la página en que se encuentra el lugar que usted busca. El índice no indica el año del padrón. El registro de los vols. 1-108 del Ramo de Padrones que cubren los años 1752-1865, están microfilmados y catalogados en un registro separado bajo el título Padrones de México.
Subjects
México - Census - Indexes
Copies
Call Number - Location
972 X22m - FHL INTL Large Q Book - Available
Format
Manuscript (With Film)
Language
Spanish
Publication
[S.l. : s.n.], [197-?]
Physical
119 (i.e. 228) hojas
Subject Class
972 X22
References
(Indexes) Padrones de México
Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
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NOTAS SUELTAS DE LA CRONOLOGÍA FAMILIAR DE LOS
ROMO DE VIVAR-RANGEL EN LA NUEVA ESPAÑA
Felipe Reyes Romo
1583 / Se otorga en la Cd. De México un poder de Juan Rangel a Marcos de
Biesma.
1584 / Merced de la Real Audiencia, año de 1584, a Juan Rangel Peguero de
un sitio de estancia para ganado menor en términos de Pachuca, cerca de los
de Tilquautla, con la posesión que tomó, y la información que dio doña
Francisca Velázquez de Salazar de como le pertenecía a ella y a sus hijos.
1584 / Merced de tierras en favor de Juan Rangel Pegueros compartiendo la
con Rodrigo Yáñez
1589 / Diego Romo de Vivar nace el 12 de marzo en Rielves Toledo, España.
Muere en Santa Maria del Río Florido, Chihuahua, México. Fue bautizado en la
parroquia de Rielves, España el 12 de marzo
1589; sus padres fueron Diego Romo y Catalina Pérez. Su esposa fue María
Rangel Peguero. Nota de Connie Domíngez 1608 / I've never seen an exact DOB
on Diego Romo de Vivar. All I've seen is a birth year, 1608. But your date
is probably more accurate. Maybe him, or his father.
1601 / En 1601 don Pedro Matheos de Ortega recibió algunas mercedes por las
haciendas de Las Chinampas, Las Peñuelas y Villa de San Felipe, Las
Peñuelas y El Pabellón. La otra, la de los Rincón procedentes de la capital
del reino, aparece cuando don Francisco Rincón se casó con doña María de
Ortega, hija de don Pedro Matheos. De esta unión nacieron dos varones: Pedro
y Agustín. Uno se consagró a la Iglesia: entró en 1620 al convento de los
mercedarios como novicio, aunque después abandonó el claustro y entró al
clero secular. El otro, Agustín, se consagró al gobierno: fue alcalde mayor
de Aguascalientes y después corregidor de Zacatecas, y aunque se casó con
doña Leonor Caballero, no dejó descendencia. Aquí se habría acabado la
familia Rincón de Ortega, si no hubiera sido porque tenían un medio hermano
de padre, don Juan Rincón de Vivar, a quien tocó la herencia de sus dos
medios hermanos. El abuelo don Pedro Matheos de Ortega empezó a acumular
mercedes de tierras: el 20 de febrero de 1601 recibió una merced en las
Peñuelas, tres días después recibió otra en la Cañada de las Chinampas .
Pasados cuatro años obtuvo permiso de regar sus labores de trigo, construir
un molino de pan y fabricar un ingenio de beneficio de sacar plata en el
puesto de Chinampas.
1612 / Nace en España Maria Rangel esposa de Diego Romo de Vivar.
1624? / Matrimonio de los Romo-Rangel y migración a la Nueva España al menos
por tres razones: i) el paso del Mayorazgo de los Rincón Gallardo a manos
de Juan Rincón de Vivar primo de Diego Romo de Vivar; ii) las mercedes de
tierras concedidas en la Nueva España a Juan Rangel Peguero y: iii) la
importancia de los descubrimientos mineros en San José del Parral así como
el nombramiento de Alferez Real concedido a Juan Rangel de Viezma (¿tío o
padre de los Rangel-Peguero?)en la Nueva Vizcaya.
1625/ Nace Joseph Romo de Vivar Rangel en la villa de San Felipe. Batch
No.: J608891, Source call , 0644362. Se trata del fundador de Alamos,
Sonora y las ramas familiares de los Romo de Vivar en el Occidente de
México. De acuerdo con este dato son nueve, y no ocho, los hijos de la
familia seminal de los Romo de Vivar- Rangel.
1626 / 13 March 1626. Beatriz - hija de Juan Cipatl (chiputu?, cipata?) y
de Francisca. Mexicanos criados de Diego Romo de Vivar en la Hacienda de
las Chinampas), fueron padrinos Diego Romo y Ma. Rangel su mujer.
1626- 1656 / Diego Romo de Vivar y María Rangel se trasladan al Real de San
José del Parral. Mariano Gonzalez Leal dice que Diego Romo de Vivar obtuvo
el grado de Capitán y que vivió en el Norte de México y fue en su momento
"Teniente de Gobernador de San José de Parral". Después se desplazó hacia
la parte central de México para ser "administrador de haciendas del Ovejas
en el Bajío", según el Estudio Historico-Genealógico sobre la Familia
Guerra, (Guanajuato: n.p., 1982), p. 121-122. Por estos años casi no hay
actividad de esta familia en Aguascalientes. Sin embargo, parece que Maria
Rangel alternó sus estancias entre la Villa de Aguascalientes y Parral
criando su familia. De hecho, de acuerdo con información de Connie
Domínguez, la mayoría de sus hijos (Maria, Diego, Juan, Isabel, Antonia,
Pedro, Geronimo y Francisco) se casaron fuera de Aguascalientes, pero luego
regresaron con sus familias. Los únicos matrimonios que se registran son
los dobles casamientos tanto de Juan como de Pedro in 1658, y el de
Francisco en 1668.
1629 / Como consecuencia de la bonanza resultante del descubrimiento de las
minas de San José del Parral, se incrementó la presencia de españoles, Se
dice que el primero en hacer la minería fue Juan Rangel de Biesma, quien
encontró plata en el cerro de la prieta: se afirma que nació en la ciudad
llamada Parral, en España por lo cual él, en honor a su padre, le dio el
mismo nombre que su ciudad natal.
1629 / Diego Romo de Vivar se convierte en minero, soldado y explorados en
la región de Parral. Soldado por que obtuvo el grado de capitán y
Gobernador del real, ya que se requería una contención permanente de las
tribus apaches, comanches, tarahumaras, tobosos, pimas, guarojíos,
tepehuanes, pimas, ópatas, conchos, julimes, tapacolmes, tubaris, guazaparis
y chínipas. Los más belicosos fueron los tobosos, apaches, comanches y
tarahumaras, quienes se opusieron a la ocupación de sus territorios por
parte de los colonizadores españoles. Con el hallazgo de minas en San José
del Parral, en 1629, la población se convirtió en la más importante del
norte de la Nueva Vizcaya. En sus orígenes la provincia de la Nueva Vizcaya
tuvo como su capital a la Villa de Guadiana,
1631 / El Real de Minas de San José del Parral, actual Hidalgo del Parral,
Chihuahua, fue fundado oficialmente en julio de 1631 por el alférez real
Juan Rangel de Biesma,
1631/ Diego Romo de Vivar y los Rangel Peguero y Rangel de Biesma aparecen
como mineros en la lista de pobladores de Parral que se encuentra consignado
en un documento del Archivo General de Indias de Sevilla (en la sección
Patronato Real). Se puede encontrar también en la obra titulada: El nuevo
descubrimiento de San José del Parral (México, UNAM, Instituto de
Investigaciones Históricas, 1988, p. 299-233),
1633 / En el antiguo pueblo de Chora (después denominado Rincón de
Romos), se habita con una agrupación indígena compuesta por chichimecas,
cuachichiles y yaquis provenientes del norte
1634 / Nace (en ¿Parral?) José Pedro Romo de Vivar Rangel
1639 / La Real Audiencia de Guadalajara autorizó la creación de una villa, a
la que durante mucho tiempo se le conoció por el nombre de Chora.
1639/ Las crónicas regionales dicen que En 1639, es habitada la Hacienda
llamada Rincón de Ortega, denominación dada por su propietario el Cura Pedro
Rincón de Ortega.
1640 / El rey de España, Felipe IV, otorgó al Real de minas de San José del
Parral, el título de Capital del Mundo de la Plata.
1642/ El gobernador de nueva Vizcaya, don Luis de Valdéz, funda la
alhóndiga de San Joseph del Parral, como centro de acopio de alimentos y
armas.
1647/ Uno de los primeros descubrimientos de sal al norte de Chuihuahua,
hoy Villa Ahumada, data de 1647, cuando se realizó la denuncia de las
Salinas de la Unión, por Diego Romo de Vivar que incursionaba como
explorador. Dos años después las poseyó Lorenzo Moreno, quien les llamó
Salinas de Santa Cruz de Mayo y, posteriormente, las explotó Francisco
Correa de Aguilar.
1648 / Nace (¿en Parral?) Jerónimo Romo de Vivar
1649/ Diego Guajardo Fajardo, fijó su residencia en esta misma población y
construyó la Casona Real del Gobierno provincial en 1649, convirtiendo de
hecho a San José del Parral, en la capital del Reino de la Nueva Vizcaya por
más de noventa años.
1650/ Las crónicas de colonización del Occidente de México afirman que el
primer Europeo que apareció en lo que hoy son las poblaciones de Álamos y
Nogales, Sonora, fue Joseph Romo de Vivar
1652 / El cura Rincón de Ortega, al morir su hermano Agustín, tomó para sí
toda la responsabilidad. Pidió prestado para continuar la construcción de un
convento franciscano en la Villa de Aguascalientes y separó parte de sus
bienes para la obra . Para 1652 sus propiedades deben de haber sido ya
considerables, porque en este año don Pedro fue cura beneficiado de
Aguascalientes, desde 1650 hasta su muerte. Agustín se comprometió a pagar
800 pesos por año, del diezmo de sus haciendas.
1655 / Comienzan a regresar de Norte algunos de los Romo de Vivar- Rangel,
al parecer sin fortuna. Pedro ostenta el título de Capitán.
1655 / Se casa Diego Romo de Vivar Rangel con María Luisa de los Reyes
1656/ Reaparece la familia Romo de Vivar completa en Aguascalientes,
Diego y Maria bautizan a su nieto Nicolás, hijo de Diego Romo de Vivar y
Luisa de los Ángeles de los Reyes
1658/ El 26 de marzo, don Juan Rincón de Vivar vende fiado a los hermanos
Juan y Pedro, Romo de Vivar, el Rincón o Villa de Chora que formaban
parte del mayorazgo de su propiedad, en 3000 pesos a censo. De acuerdo al
testamento otorgado por Pedro Romo de Vivar Rangel, el 13 de Febrero de
1692, fueron ellos y no su padre, como lo afirman las crónicas locales,
quienes adquirieron en sociedad las tres caballerías de tierra de lo que
antiguamente fue Chora
1658 / Se casa Juan Romo de Vivar Rangel con María de Tiscareño, en las
Villa de Aguascalientes
1658/ Se casa Juan Romo de Vivar Rangel con María de Garibay, en las Villa
de Aguascalientes
1658 / Se casa José Pedro Romo de Vivar Rangel con Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza ,
en las Villa de Aguascalientes
1660 / La Real Audiencia de la Nueva Galicia convoca a los pobladores del
territorio a defender las costas del Nayarit en contra de los ataques de
los piratas. Diego Romo de Vivar participa con gente, caballos y armas.
1659 / Muere Maria Rangel Pegueros el 9 de Junio. Se sepulta en
Aguascalientes
1662 / Se casa Jerónimo Romo de Vivar Rangel con Margarita Tiscareño, en
las Villa de Aguascalientes
1666 / don Pedro Rincón de Ortega fallece el 10 de enero en su hacienda de
"Las Peñuelas". A la muerte de don Pedro, se hizo cargo de los bienes su
hermano, el Capitán don Juan Rincón de Vivar, quien en su matrimonio con
doña Catarina Pérez de Aguirre, tuvieron por hija única a doña, a quien
correspondería la fabulosa herencia de su tío.
1670 / Es nombrado Alcalde Mayor de la Jurisdicción de Aguascalientes Don
Juan Romo de Vivar
1680 / El primer criador de ganados en el Rancho de Santa Cruz Valley, se
estableció en 1680, por iniciativa de José Romo de Vivar, cerca de San
Lázaro en lo que ahora es el estado mexicano de Sonora
1680-90 José Romo de Vivar fue también ganadero y minero en el sur de las
montañas Huachuca en el Occidente de la Nueva España y podría ser el primer
español en realizar esta actividad en lo que hoy es Arizona.
1691 / Diego Romo de Vivar (Pérez o Rangel¿)muere el 19 de Diciembre
1691 / Muere Juan Romo de Vivar Rangel (1642)
1692/ Muere Isabel Romo de Vivar Rangel (1638)
1693 / Se emite el Informe sobre Sonora. Febrero 6 de 1693: Joseph Romo
de Vivar, Pedro García de Almazán, Pedro de Peralta y Francisco Mendoza..
Notas complementarias:
La lista de pobladores de Parral en 1633. Se encuentra en un documento del
Archivo General de Indias de Sevilla, en la sección Patronato Real, fue
publicada por Guillermo Porras Muñoz en: El nuevo descubrimiento de San José
del Parral (México, UNAM, Instituto de Investigaciones Históricas, 1988, p.
299-233):
Peter Gerhard described early Aguascalientes history in "The North Frontier of New Spain." On Oct. 22, 1575, La Villa de Aguascalientes was created by decree and affiliated with nearby Santa Maria de los Lagos (now Lagos de Moreno). The first notice of a parish at Asunción was circa 1605, but chaplains served various presidios before that. Bernal Sánchez spoke of a priest at the Villa in 1601, but as we all know, the marriages and baptisms we now have access to only begin in 1616.
It is believed that the Chichimecs at contact numbered about 8,500 (this would have been Guachichiles, Zacatecas and probably some Caxcanes). Gerhard writes that "the period 1561-1589 was one of retrenchment when some haciendas were abandoned." Aguascalientes was founded in 1575 but was reduced to only two vecinos and 16 soldados in 1582-1585. After that, the war subsided and hostilities withdrew north, with the last Indian attack taking place in 1593.
Gerhard notes that "Peace brought a tide of Spanish settlers beginning in the 1590s, mostly cattlemen and farmers, together with Indian (mainly Náhuatl-speaking) and Negro retainers." The Villa became "inhabited by powerful hacendados who monopolized land and water."
Gaspar de la Fuente claims that in 1610, he found 24 or 25 Spanish vecinos, about 50 families of mestizos, over 100 mulatos, 20 Negro slaves and only 10 Indians in La Villa. He explained that "most of these people worked on neighboring haciendas."
Gerhard writes, "By 1681 various haciendas [of Aguascalientes] had chapels and resident clergy." The 1760 Parish census showed 640 Indians and 5,386 non-Indian families for a total of 20,411 "personas de comunión y confesión" - not including Ciénega de Mata. Including infants this may have represented 34,000 persons.
The 1770 census gave a total of 28,074.
The 1790 census gives: 25,715 people, made up of:
1. 10,004 Spaniards
2. 8,617 Indians
3. 3,357 Mulattoes
4. 3,737 Others
Source: Peter Gerhard, "The North Frontier of New Spain" (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press).
John Schmal
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Los expedientes de la Familia Luevano (Luebana)
In the Village of Aguascalientes on the 12th of January 1777, having proceeded with the marriage banns as mandated by the Holy Council of Trent, in the Parish Church, on three holy days, in solemn mass, I read the banns on the 22nd, 25th, and 26th of December of the preceding year, and having found no impediments to marriage resulting, I, Father José Joachim Medina, with license from Father Antonio Flores...I married... Alejo de Luebana, Spanish, originally from and a resident of this jurisdiction in the Rancho Grande, legitimate son of José Luebana and Tomasa Carrion (both deceased),
with María de Jesus Gil, Spanish, originally from Jalostotitlan, and for a short time, a resident of this jurisdiction in the Hacienda de Juan del Mesquital, legitimate daughter of Francisco Gil and Petra Cassilas...
In the Village of Aguascalientes, on the 9th of the month of September in 1812, having proceeded with the marriage preparations, as is right, and having read the marriage banns as required by the Holy Council of Trent in the Parish Church on three Holy days in solemn Mass, on the 23rd, 24th, and 28th of the past month of August, and having found no impediments to marriage resulting, I, Father Juan Muños, with license from Father José Francisco... married Estanislao Luebana, Spanish (espl), originally from and a resident of Benadero, legitimate son of Alejo Luevana and Jesus Gil (deceased)... with María Salome Gomes, Spanish, originally from and a resident of this jurisdiction in Cienega de Cardona, legitimate daughter of Cipriano Gomes and María Manuela Macias....
In the Parish Church of the Congregation of Trinity, on the 10th day of the month of March of the year 1816, I, the proper priest of this place, Father José Bernardino de Palos, baptized solemnly and poured Holy Oil and Sacred Chrism on a little Spanish boy, born two days earlier at Cienega de Cardona, whom I gave the name José Pavlo, legitimate son of Estanislao Luevano and of Salome Gomes. Paternal grandparents: Alejo Luevano and María de Jesus Gil. Maternal grandparents: Cipriano Gomes and Manuela Masias....
In this Parish church of Pasa de Sotos on May 3, 1844, I, Father Antonio Cabral, priest, married and blessed within the church Pablo Luebana, celibate, 24 years of age, originally from and a resident of... and legitimate son of Estanislao Luebano and Salome Gomes with Manuela Serna, celibate, 18 years of age, originally from and a resident of the same Rancho, legitimate daughter of Leocadia Serna and Ramona Diaz (deceased)...
In the Parish of La Santísima Trinidad de Sotos, on the 27th of May of 1874, I, Father Pablo Marin, proper priest of this place, married and blessed in the face of the church Tiburcio Luevana, single, 25 years of age, originally from and a resident of this place, legitimate son of Pablo Luevano, deceased, and of Manuela Serna, who is living....
with Manuela Martinez, celibate, 16 years of age, originally from and a resident of this place, legitimate daughter of Timoteo Martinez, who is living, and of Fermina Rubalcaba, deceased, and having read the marriage banns on three holy days in solemn Mass on the 19th, 26th of April and the 3rd of May after which no impediments to marriage resulted and instruction in Christian doctrine was received...
In the Parish of Paso de Sotos on the 29th of September of 1885, I, Father Estevan Agredano... baptized solemnly and poured Holy Oil and Sacred Chrism on Juana, who was born on the 27th day at seven in the morning in this place, legitimate daughter of Tiburcio Luevano and Manuela Martinez. Paternal grandparents: Pablo Luevano and Manuela Serna. Maternal grandparents: Timoteo Martinez and Fermina Rubalcaba. Godparents: Paulin Diaz and Epifania Aguallo, whom I advised of their spiritual and parental obligation. In witness thereof, I signed it.
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URL sites for history, fotos of city/pueblos and areas
of interest Dream Trip.
YAHUALICA 105 kms (66miles) from Guadalara, Jalisco,
Mexico
http://www.yahualica.net/paisanor.html
Jeff Legato's home page /Yahualica, Jalisco, Mexico
http://www.legatofamily.com/yahualica.htm
click Albums:
Historia de Yahualica;
http://www.yahualica.org/historia/yahualicah.php
©Juan Antonio Rubalcava 2002-2006
Septiembre 22, 2006
MEXTICACAN:
Mexticacan (mesh-tee-kah-KAHN), town (1990 pop.
3,152), Jalisco, central Mexico, 13 mi/21 km SW of
Teocaltiche; 21°13'N 102°43'W.
Grain, vegetables; livestock.
NOCHISTLAN:
http://www.las-animas.com/Fotosdenochistlan.htm
digital fotos tour of Nochistlan.
TEOCALTICHE:
Teocaltiche (te-o-kahl-TEE-che), city (1990 pop.
19,627) and township, Jalisco, central Mexico, on
interior plateau, near Zacatecas border, 40 mi/64 km
SW of Aguascalientes on Mexico Highway 25; 21°26'N
102°34'W. Elev. 5,653 ft/1,723 m. Agr. center (grain,
alfalfa, beans, chickpeas, fruit; livestock).
http://www.mapas-de-mexico.com/jalisco-state-mexico/jalisco-state-mexic…
Map of cities of Teocaltiche, Yahualica de Gonzáles
Gallo, and others
AGUASCALIENTES
Brief history of Aquascalientes: major cities,
pueblos and History of Zacatecas.
http://www.mexicotravel.in/mexicocities/aguascalientes/
Places to see in Aguascalientes.
Aguascalientes City, capital city of the State of
Aguascalientes, is located 537 km northwest of Mexico
City on Federal Highway 57 / 45 in Mexico. The
Colonial City of Aguascalientes is situated in the
central part of Mexico and is rich in colonial period
architecture. Some of the most renowned structures
are:
The Government Palace with its
Neoclassical facade of redtezontle stone
The Municipal Palace built out of pink quarry
El Jardin de los Palacios (Palace Gardens), where you
can admire a fountain built to honor the artist Jesus
F. Contreras. Contreras is the creator of two relief
sculptures decorating the square. These sculptures
represent: "Camaxtli", the God of Hunting and
"Centeotl", the God of Abundance
La Plaza Patria, where you can view an iron tower
built in 1808
Legislative Palace
Other interesting sites well worth visiting are:
http://www.tourbymexico.com/aguascal/aguascal/aguas.htm
Rincon de Romos.
1. Rincon de Romos is located 41 km north of
Aguascalientes City on Federal Highway 45 in the State
of Aguascalientes, Mexico. Attractions in Rincon de
Romos are: crafts, cattle exhibitions, regional
dances, bullfights, cockfights, and large farms.
2. LOS CUERVOS:
http://www.mapas-de-mexico.com/ags/15-penuelas-aguascalientes-mexico-ma…
Mapa del Estado de Aguascalientes, Mexico, S. Seccion
15/16
Este mapa muestra la ciudad de: Peñuelas.
El mapa muestra las poblaciones de:
Ex Hacienda Agostaderito, Tanque de Guadalupe, Villa
Lic. Jesús Terán, La Tinaja, La Soledad de Abajo, El
Duraznillo, Los Duran, Catarina, Bajío los Vázquez,
LOS CUERVOS, Montoro, Refugio de Peñuelas,
Providencia, San Antonio de Peñuelas, El Turicate.
3. SAN JOSE DE GARCIA
http://www.tourbymexico.com/aguascal/snjsegci/sanjose.htm
The main attractions found here are:
Presa Plutarco Elias Calles
North to Zac., Zac.
http://www.tourbymexico.com/zaca/zaca.htm
Zacatecas Vacation Guides & Tourism
627km (392 miles) NW of Mexico City; 198km (124 miles)
NW of San Luis Potosí; 322km (201 miles) NE of
Guadalajara; 298km (186 miles) SE of Durango
Zacatecas, like Guanajuato, owes its beauty to the
wealth of silver extracted from its mines. The
farthest flung of the silver cities, it is a jewel in
the rough. High over the town center looms a steep
mountain that's accessible by cable car.
Places to visit in Zacatecas State
Chalchihuites, Sombrerete, *Chicomostoc
Archaeological Zone, Tepetongo, Fresnillo,
Tlaltenango
Guadalupe, Villa Garcia, Jerez de Garcia Salinas,
Zacatecas ? Capital City
*La Quemada
http://www.planetware.com/zacatecas/la-quemada-mex-zac-qmd.htm
http://www.mexicofile.com/southofzacatecas.htm
Description: The pre-Columbian archaeological site of
La Quemada or Chicomóztoc (Náhuatl: "seven caves") is
situated about 53km/33mi south of Zacatecas on the MEX
54. This cult centre, which stretches across a large
hill, probably had its beginnings as long ago as the
Early Classic period. It is highly doubtful, however,
whether it is identical with the legendary place of
Chicomóztoc from which, according to the saga, the
seven Nahua tribes are supposed to have set off on
their migration to the south. What is certain is that
La Quemada, together with Chalchihuites and other
places in Zacatecas and Durango, lies in an area which
represented the northern boundary of Meso-American
civilisation.
TOTATICHE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totatiche
Sources
Esteban Valdés Salazar, Historia de Totatiche
Instituto Nacional de Estadística, Geografía e
Informática (INEGI)
State of Jalisco, Enciclopedia de los Municipios de
México
TEPECHITLAN: http://www.tepechitlan.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tepechitl%C3%A1n
COLOTLAN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colotl%C3%A1n
Natural Attractions
One of the natural attractions of Colotlán is a
natural canyon known as "La Barranca" located about 1
kilometer east of El Refugio, in the south east part
of the municipality. This canyon runs for aproximately
5 kilometers and is the exit of the basin of
aproximately 100 square kilometers that was formed in
the highlands in the neighbouring state of Zacatecas
between the Sierra de Morones and the "Cerro
Chichimeco" (Chichimeco mountain, approximately 2,600
meters above sea level). The canyon is also the origin
of the "Chichoca" River, that runs east-west and that
joins the Colotlán River before joining the Bolaños
River, one of the most important afluents, running
north-south, of the Lerma-Santiago (Lerma River)
river.
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Sources
Instituto Nacional de Estadistica, Geografia e
Informatica (INEGI)
Botello Aceves, Brígida del Carmen, en Memoria del
Municipio en Jalisco. Unidad Editorial, Gobierno de
Jalisco, 1987
Retrieved from
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colotl%C3%A1n"
MOMAX:
http://www.mapas-de-mexico.com/zacatecas-state-mexico/zacatecas-state-m…
Momax (mo-MAKS), town (1990 pop. 1,621), Zacatecas, N
central Mexico, 12 mi/19 km NNW of Tlaltenango de
Sanchez Roman, on Tlalt enengo R. Grain, chickpeas,
tobacco, alfalfa; livestock.
Map includes:
JALPA: http://www.jalpense.org
JEREZ:
http://www.mexicofile.com/southofzacatecas.htm
Much easier to interpret than La Quemada is the
undiscovered colonial gem of Jerez, about 50
kilometers away by road. Incredibly, most guidebooks
give it no more than a passing mention, if it is even
included at all!
FRESNILLO:
http://www.gogoglo.com/wiki/en/wikipedia/f/fr/fresnillo.html
Fresnillo is situated 53 km to the north of the City
of Zacatecas via federal highway 15 in the State of
Zacatecas, Mexico. Fresnillo is considered the second
most important City of the State of Zacatecas, among
the interesting places you can visit are beautiful
constructions such as:
The Gonzalez Echeverria Theater
The Municipal Palace
The Church of El Transito, built in the XVIII century
The Sanctuary of Plateros, which is one of the most
important religious sanctuaries of the Country, and
where the Santo Niño de Atocha is venerated
J Munoz
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Wishing you a blessed filled New Year.
Are you ready for more researching? Maybe finding a primo/a here at Nuestros Ranchos? It has been exciting to read of your triumphs.
As for me - I just called the local FHC, and films I ordered in mid-Nov are finally in - so I hope to view them soon. FYI - I have the following films: # 1164728 (Reg. Parroquiales, la Purisima, Valparaiso, Zac., Bautismos, 1870-1876); and #1164741 (same location, Informacion Matrimonial, 1878-1892). It has been quite a while since I have looked at films - and I wonder if you have some tips to share about the BEST way to RECORD INFORMATION from the films, and the BEST way to COMPILE the information. Please share your RESEARCH ideas/methods that work - I am always looking for ways to work smarter (not harder). Y'all take care
Natalie Castro Coleman, in Virginia
Researching: CASTRO, DUENAS, DURAN, GARCIA, LOPEZ, MARTINEZ in El Astillero, San Miguel, and San Mateo (Valparaiso Dist., Zacatecas); and Sain Alto and Sombrerete, Zacatecas
I'd like to introduce myself. I am Dara Jones and am an adoptee researching
my biological father's ancestry line. The family has an extensive history on
my grandfather's family spanning several cetruries. However, I know hardly
anything about my grandmother's line. Unfortunately her life and family are
shrouded in secrectry for some reason and so I know a very few facts.
_http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15444_ (http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15444)
Her name was Dolores Santana and she was born in Jalisco and later, some or
all of the family moved to Los Angeles. I have been told that her father was a
pistelleta in the army and that she was part of Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana's
relatives. _http://www.answers.com/topic/antonio-l-pez-de-santa-anna_
(http://www.answers.com/topic/antonio-l-pez-de-santa-anna) I am rather new at
researching outside of the USA and would love any kind of advice on some avenues
to explore in order to find some family connections.
Great to be on board.
Regards
Dara Jones
I am researching Gallegos in Calvillo. Willing to exchange information.
John Schmal
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JUANA MARIA LOERA
Daughter of Andres Loera and Juana Maria Velasco
Born: March 9, 1812
In the Parish Church of San Jose de Huejucar on the 16th of December of 1811, Father Rafael Yzursun, lieutenant priest, baptized solemnly and poured holy oil and sacred chrism on two children named Maria Yasana de los Dolores, Españoles, who were born in Ojocaliente today at 4 in the morning, legitimate daughter of Don Andres Loera and Dona Juana Maria Belasco.
Abuelos Paternos: Don Jose de Loera and Dona Rosalia Romo
Abuelos Maternos: Don Jesus Belasco and Dona Josefa Lopez
Padrinos: Don Florentino Lopez and Dona Merenciana Loera and for the other: Jose Maria de Loera and Dona Rosa Muños
ANDRES LOERA: Son of Jose Esteban Loera and Rosalia Romo de Vivar
Marriage of Jose Andres Loera and Juana Velasco
On the 23rd of May, 1803, I, Father Benito de Medina Camara, examined them in Christian doctrine and married Jose Andres Loera,, Español, originally from this jurisdiction in the post of Ojo Caliente, legitimate son of Jose Loera and Doña Maria de San Juan, already deceased, with Doña Juana Velasco, Española, legitimate daughter of Don Jesus Velasco and of Doña Josefa Lopez, already deceased.
Padrinos: --- de Loera and Rosalia Muños
JUANA MARIA VELASCO
Daughter of Jesus Velasco and Josefa Lopez
Born: September 28, 1787, Calvillo, Aguascalientes
JOSE MARIA DE JESUS VELASCO -- Son of Jose Velasco and Maria San Juan Delgado -- MARRIED Feb. 9, 1774 in Calvillo to Maria Josefa Lopez de Nava... Film 0635886
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A great big WELCOME John,
I have been trying to connect Candelario Alvarado from Villa de Santiago in the state of Nuevo Leon to any of the Alvarados' from Zacatecas . What I have on him is this :
Candelario Alvarado married Maria Concepcion Garcia married November 8, 1833 . I have been unable to find anymore on him , there are other names in my line that do come from Zavcatecas ( Saldivar ) but so far I have had no luck with GOOD OLE CANDELARIO .
Once again welcome ,
Welester G. Alvarado
> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:22:37 -0500> From: makas@nc.rr.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Schmal/New Member> > > John Schmal has joined the group. John doesn't have roots in our area of > research but has done extensive research for others in our area of > Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. He will be submitting some of > the work he has done for others as his representative genealogy. John > will be a great addition to the group because when you describe him as a > "serious" researcher you need to use a capital "S" in the word "Serious."> > welcome to the group John,> > joseph> > ===================> > Joseph Puentes> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.
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I have just found a 1906 Valle de Guadalupe baptism that lists my maternal grandfather-in-law and mother-in-law as sponsors and gives me some info about them, but I need a little help. The microfilm is poor and flowering script is almost driving me mad. Here is what I think it says .....padrinos Julian Alviso casada labrador de cuarenta an~os originario de San Miguel y su esposa Catarina Jauregui de veinte y ocho an~os de edad originaria del hijo de Ayaca y vecinos de Mexcala......
I am pretty sure it states Julian is married, a farmer and 40 years old from San Miguel, and his wife, Catarina Jauregui is 28 years old. But then it says Catarina is a "son of Ayaca"? The word hijo is questionable as the h and i are looped together at the beginning which looks like a large "o" with a small "o" inside, but the "jo" at the end is definite. I tried to find Ayaca out on the Interent, but I could not find the place name even in the little site listed from a previous Nuestros forum topic. Is anyone familiar with the term or place Ayaca? I have found it referenced as a type of tree. Also, why would Catarina be listed as a hijo and not a hija? The place Mexcala is the Ranch where most of the younger children were born.
Thanks again for any help!
Hi Alicia and Welester and Ranchos Group,
I was just in Monterrey,as part of the Chicago educators and Mexican Fine
Arts Museum delegation dedicating an exhibit to Monterrey's exhibit on our
African legacy. Please check this out Welester while the exhibit is still there
(right across the street from the state capitol building). It is beautiful
and very enlightening, particularly for those of us with limited information
of our African legacy in Mexico.
I have shared many of my resources with my district's curriculum director.
However, Joseph, I have two CD's about this (African legacy in Mexico), plus
an enormous amount of wonderful photos I took. Please let me know how I can
share with the group. The CD's have music and voice to them...I have some
beautiful photos of Santiago...I believe another member of the group mentioned
they have family from there. In addition, I was fortunate enough to speak
personally with Santiago's historian..anyone with questions, let me know.
Perhaps one of the nicest things I got to do was to interview an elder from
this side of the family in Monterrery- I learned some additional information
that would normally not be shared...additionally, I got a photo of my great
great aunt whose last name was Elizondo Elizondo - she was not only beautiful,
but I was amazed how much our gene pool skips first generation and resembles
2nd and 3rd generation. I was able to take a photo of the painting...
Also, I attended my mom's funeral shortly after I returned from Mexico.
There were originally 10 siblings, now there is only one. This is the reason
why I was unable to contact the group earlier. My mother and an aunt are the
last of the Luna/Herrera's 2nd generation that came from my grandparents
(Manuel Luna Herrera and Norberta Herrera Luna were the 1st generation) that were
born in the Tlaltenango, Zacatecas. I took pictures of the family during
this occasion, I can certainly forward them to the group as well. Perhaps one of
you might look one of us?
Alicia, you ask why there may be so much interest and formalized groups of
us researchers in the United States. I think the reasons vary - but I suspect
many of us still have one foot in Mexico (even if we were never there)
because of the stories we heard as young ones or because of the discrimination we
felt in this country. I also think that many people in Mexico "saben las
movidas", and don't necessarily rely on formalized groups to share information.
But like many of this group, I feel it is important to share, because we all
share a similar disenfranchised past. Connecting the dots makes us all feel
part of a family, and hence part of a larger group such as nuestros ranchos.
Happy New Year everyone. Hope your Christmas was filled with wonderful
memories and a shared family past.
Esperanza
Chicagoland area
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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 00:38:33 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2007/spjan07/spjan07.htm
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Dear friends and family . . . As we start a new year, Somos Primos is
expanding its' international networking. Angel Custodio Rebollo, our
columnist from Spain, is coordinating a new _International Networking_
column.
Somos Primos contacted over thirty historical and genealogical societies
from Spanish/Portuguese speaking countries. Angel will compile the
information from the queries each month. This issue we have surname
contact requests from Venezuela, Peru, Mexico, and Brazil.
May 2007 be your best year for gathering family records and honoring the
lives of your grandparents.
Sincerely, Mimi
*United States *
_Action Item_
A Legacy of Valor Display
A Memorial to a Hero, Guy Gabaldon
National Museum for the Latino Community
_National Issues_
Looking at crime and immigration
Blood and Sweat in the Meat Industry
Call for Papers: New Directions in Race Research
Extract: Diabetes Inflicts a Dangerous Toll on Hispanics in the US
National Internet-based Menopause Study
Preparing a Family Health History
WellPoint Launches Online health Assessment in Spanish
Blue Cross of California Launches NuestroBien.com:
Diccionario Biográfico Médico Hispanoamericano
*New Book*: The Journey to Latino Political Representation by John P. Schmal
Migrant Workers in Michigan: 1969 Field Notes
_Education_
The Supreme council of the Mexican-American Movement
Work begun on Valadez Middle School
Ruling: Classes divided by race
Book Inspires Student Displays On Bilingual Education History
Teaching of English and Latinos in America: Where do we go from here?
Latino College-Bound, Tech Savviest Among Peers, Missing Parental Help
Recommended websites for parents
Badillo Lashes Latinos, Rips Hispanic Values
_Culture_
Starting Your Own Family Search
SHHAR invites you to become a member
International Networking
Self Identity: Hispanic/Latino Widely Accepted, but Multiethnic is Used
Introduction to the History of Mexican-Americans, Wikipedia
Goya Producciones
"My Roots Run Deep" by Bobby LeFebre
_Business_
National Latina Business Women Association
Mexico Creates Network of U.S.-based high tech Migrants
*Anti-Spanish Legends*
The Price of Empire *
*Setting History straight should be the aim of every Hispano or Latino....
Reactions to Herman Badillo’s Book, One Nation, One Standard
*
Military & Law Enforcement Heroes
*Comforting Embrace
WW II Pilot Hector Santa Anna
Retired AF General Robert "Bob" Cardenas
Reminiscences of a Naval Aviator, Daniel L. Polino
Medal of Honor Series by Tony (Marine)
Wounded Warrior Project
Cold War Museum
Family Fact of the Week: Veterans
Military Records Flesh Out Family Histories
Navy Color Guard 4-minute Video
*Cuentos
*Part-time Slave, Beneath the Shadow of the Capitol by Ramon Moncivais
Una Historia de Luis Murillo, translated by Frank Sifuentes
Stories from the Barrio and Other Hoods by Margarita B. Velez
Growing Pains in the Barrio by Heradio Luna
My Gift from Santa Claus by Ben Romero
Carrie Books
*Literature *
The Funerals for Carlos V by Vicente Riva Palacio, translation by Ted
Vincent
S: Done Vienen La Ranitas? Children's story by Frank Sifuentes
*Surname
*Surnames identified in the Surname Column, 2000-2006
Two new FTDNA surname projects: Tarin and Zambrano
Successful Networking for Finding Primos means sharing information
*Spanish Sons of American Revolution *
Louisiana Society of the Sons of the American Revolution
El Regimento de La Luisiana/The Spanish Louisiana Regiment, 1781*/
/*Spaniards who went to the Philippines in the 1700 to 1800s.
Buenos Aires Patriots of the American Revolution, M-Z
*Orange County, CA
**January 27th SHHAR Quarterly Meeting, Open to Public, Free
*"O.C. Historical Update"
Gualberto Valadez, Beloved community member dies at 93
Vicki Ruiz Preserves the Stories of Latinas in America
The Road Home for the Holidays is Paved with Extortion
*Los Angeles, CA*
Tracing your Native American Heritage
Latino Rights Pioneer from Orange County dies at 91
L.A. Wallflower: Hidden for Decades Mural is Being Restored
*California
*California’s Heritage Discovery Center
To Whom it may Concern
Traces of Spain in the National Parks & Monuments of the U.S.
Save the Juana Briones House
Jan 12, Mini-Festival of Latino Arts* *
El Central Union High School, Class of 1950;
*Northwestern United States*
Northwest Immigrant Rights Project
*Southwestern United States
*Book: Tio Cowboy
The Western Connection
Improbable Discovery in New Mexico
Hace 'apenas' 347 años, Cuidad Juarez/El Paso
*African-American*
Black People - Slavery
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My Grandfather is Pedro Gonzales Jauregui he married Maria Ruano. They were both born in La Estancia De Los Delgadillos.
My grandfathers parents are Rosalio Jauregui and Pomposa Gonzales. Rosalio's parents are Salvador Jauregui and Catarina Vidaurri.
My file is in the group: http://www.nuestrostanchos.com/node/15431
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Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some children of Diego Tevino and
Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino Fernandez Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
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-------------- Original message from rosa9972 : --------------
>
> Hi Linda and Joseph--
>
> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the Banuelos family.
> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much information
> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll email you off
> the group so we can exchange information.
>
> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as her 5th
> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are related and
> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
>
> Rosalinda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar Jalisco
>
> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
>
> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Ba
Maureen,
I think that most every municipio had an Ojo de Agua and maybe even several Ojos de Agua so it may be a hard thing to pinpoint. Also don't put too much emphasis on Ojo de Agua because people moved around from one rancho to another. For my grandfather I have seen about 5 different names of different ranchos when his children were born. One would say originario del Caquiste another would say originario de La Noche Buena another El Salitre and another would say Rancho Las Pilas and so on. According to mom and my aunts and uncles he did not live in all of these and mostly lived in El Rancho del Caquiste and was born in El Salitre.
So yes there are ojos de agua everywhere...........enjoy the search process and learn in the process.
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif.
----- Original Message ----
From: Maureen Bejar
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:49:08 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ojo de Agua all over the place
Dear Linda and Emilie,
I think there are more ponds in Mexico than there are in Northwest Indiana! I think the most likely Ojo de Agua is the one just south of Tepatitlan, but I could be wrong. I still have 5 more years to look at on the microfilm, so after the holiday I will be able to finish viewing the film and maybe it will give me more clues. Catarina's brothers Vicente and Julian and her sisters Ambrosia and Trinidad were also in Valle de Guadalupe so much of the family had relocated to Valle de Guadalupe. Someone is bound to have a more descriptive baptism.
My mom is from England and her relatives from England and Australia refer to the Atlantic Ocean as the Big Pond. Now just think, hundreds of years from now, future generations are going to read some of those letters and will be trying to figure out what exactly was the Big Pond!
here is the begining of my search please check it out maybe some of these names are familiar, See at http//wwwnuestroranchos.com/node/15276
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Hi, My name is Raul Luna of Rialto, California. I have been working on my genealogy for several years now. My primary interest has been Juchipila, Zacatecas, where my father, David Hernandez Luna, was born at El Rancho de Vallecitos, in 1905. Most of his ancestors were born in Juchipila, and it is the location where I have found most of the family information. Moyahua, which is near by, is also another place where relatives have come from. My grandfather, Atanacio Robles Luna, died during the Revolution War of 1909 while assisting in burying their fellow dead soldiers. Atanacio contracted a disease while doing this, and was buried with his fellow soldiers. The location is not quite clear. The Luna family in Juchipila is very, very, large..all grandfathers came from large families. Recently, I found a gold mine of informatin on gggrandfather, Pedro Gonzales Robles. Surnames that I am searching for from Juchipila are: Luna, Estrada, Rodriquez, Lamas,Robles, Flores,Esparza, & Reinoso (Reynoso).
My mother's side of the family, the Cristernas, came from Jerez, Zacactecas. Athough the Cristernas were from Jerez, they moved to Guanacevi, Durango, where my mother and her sister were born. Some surnames connected to the Cristernas are Acuna, Lopez, Avila, Medina, Castanon, and Cardenas.
I noticed that Linda Castanon Long also belongs to this group. Well, Linda and I have a connection with our Castanon family. My grandfather's sister, Margarita, married Librado Castanon....one of Linda's relatives.
I have been married for 43 years, have 3 adult children, 4 grandchildren. I am retired from the Postal Service after 31 years, enjoy coaching girls softball, but genealogy is my biggest hobby and keeps me well occupied.
I have over 1200 names in my Family Tree, and I have submitted the info to the Family Tree Maker Organization, though not all the info I have submitted shows up.
Welester,
If you are in Monterrey and know Israel Cavazos Garza, could you do me a favor? Israel lives in Ciudad de Guadalupe I believe? He wrote book on the ciudad. Israel devotes a chaper in the book to El Tierra Dura in San Rafael I bielieve. The property belonged to the Sepulveda family. Israel mentions the will of Vicente SEpulveda Garza made in 1818. Vicente Sepulveda is my great great great grandfather.My grandfather Arturo Ayala y Robles was the son of Yldefonso Ayala y Spulveda and Porfiria Robles y Rivas and was born in Saltillo in 1868. His cousin was Vito Alessio RObles. Yldefonso Ayala was the son of Ramon Ayala and Refugia Sepulveda y Garza and born 1837 in Monterrey. Refugia was the daughter of Vicente Sepulveda y Garza and his second wife Maria Josefa Garza y Yslas a nd born in 1804 in Guadalupe Vicente Sepulveda was baptized in 1745 in Salinas Victoria. I would dearly like to have a copy or translation of the will. COuld you talk to him about getting a copy of
the w
ill? Also I am stuck on Maria Josefa Garza' father. I know his name was Joaquin Garza. I don't know the genealogy of Joaquin Garza. I know he married Antonia Margarita Yslas y Palacios f rom Lampazos. Anything to help me out with Joaquin Garza would be nice. I guess that is a big wish list.
Welester, I don't know if you have time for this but let me know if you can help or not. I would appreciate anything.
Thanks bvery much,
Esther
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-------------- Original message from Lester Alvarado : --------------
> Hi Alicia ,
>
> I'm Welester and I am currently living in Monterrey , Mexico however I am
> American and was born and raised in Los Angeles , Calif. and up until I moved to
> Monterrey I lived in Marina del Rey , Ca.
> I started my family research when I was 9 yrs. old I say this because it started
> with my name ( Welester ) growing up in L.A. was not easy for a little mexican
> boy in East L.A. at first til I was in the 7th grade . All the kids would make
> fun of me cuz name wasn't Paul , Tommy , George or whatever and sometimes had to
> fight because of my name so, one day I asked my dad whom I called POP " Where
> did my name come from " and as fast as I asked him , he snapped back at me and
> said " WHY DON'T YOU LIKE IT ! " I sunk back into my seat and said " yea I like
> it " and that was that !
> Believe it or not this is what made my want to learn more about the family .
>
> Now , to get to some of your questions on , is the grass greener on the other
> side . I went to the Mormon church on Santa Monica Blvd. in L.A. about 27 yrs
> ago and asked for help , unfortunately in those days they were not as eager as
> they are today to help a non member of the church so they sent me off to the
> micro-film room and showed me the cabinet of films and basically said how bout .
> Didn't get very far and became discouraged and left .
> Years later I tinkered some more but still no luck , I asked Pop about some
> things but he always seemed not to remember . I asked my aunt , his sister and
> she always painted a real sweet , beautiful picture in my mind about how it used
> to be , nothing else .
> Now , 5 yrs. ago I sold one of my two companies and decided that I would go to
> Monterrey , Mexico for one year and quickly do all my family research , thinking
> , since I will be in Monterrey and Pop is from there it should be a breeze ,
> right ... WRONG ! Guess again .
> There are files in the archives that are damaged beyond repair , people who
> outright refuse to deal with you because to them you're still a gringo .
>
> Grant you there are many many very good people , it just seems that the meanies
> all work for the goverment or the church . I've had to adjust alot and now know
> that most of it is Culture shock . Once you recognize it you can manage it much
> easier . I have been helped by some very nice people and I have had problems
> with others .
> I visited the Mormon church here and asked for help , they were very helpful and
> still are , I think they consider me a potential future member of the church ;-)
> Once they showed my how to navigate the familysearch web sight , things began to
> happen . I was befriended by Gregorio who is the person in charge of helping the
> stakes or Family History Centers to get thier genealogy centers moving . I
> assist him every once in awhile to these centers and do what I can to teach the
> members how to start thiere PAF's and in return I get help from them on my
> research .
> I don't have much experience with other groups , I have heard about some but
> from my own experience NuestrosRanchos seems to me to be very professional and
> detailed for the serious genealogist . I admire Joseph and respect him very much
> for having this sight for people like me and all the others .
> I kinda already answered your second question on , is it easier here or there
> but just incase I wasn't clear I would say no , it's not that much easier the
> people here are like the ones back home , pretty much not interested in thiere
> genealogy . I come from a family of 9 , six boys and three girls and I'm the
> only one interested in the search . I keep everybody posted on new finds and
> usually get responses like hmmm that's nice , HEY how bout them Lakers .
> I am in no way saying not to come and visit the places of your ancestors by any
> means , I'm just saying it's nice here there are some drawbacks but more good
> than bad . I have had the honor of visiting Zacatecas , Zacatecas but
> unfortunately I was unable to do any research there. I plan on going back there
> this coming new year and staying a few days .
>
> I have met several historians here like Isarel Cavazos , Arq. Jose Garza
> Carrillo , Gregorio Martinez and several others who have been helpful and have
> invited me to some of their meetings . Things are looking up here and one of the
> biggest things to have happened to me is to become a member of the
> NuestrosRanchos group from the other side , go figure I had to come to Mexico to
> become a member of a group from the states to advance in my search for my family
> , you gotta love it !
>
> If anyone in the group is ever in Monterrey , PLEASE look me up , it would be a
> pleasure and an honor to meet you and to help you any way I can .
>
> Your friend from the other DOWN UNDER ,
> Welester
>
> P.S. My grandfather was Carrillo from Chihuahua , Juarez . Arq.Jose Garza
> Carrillo says that two Carrillo brothers' came from Zacatecas , one went toward
> Nuevo Leon and the other to Chihuahua . I'm trying to connect those dots as well
> .
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:09:57 -0800> From: alliecar@pacbell.net> To:
> research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bienvenido Juan> >
> Juan,> > Bienvenido a Nuestros Ranchos!! Desde que Arturo tomo lo que era
> anteriormente el Grupo de Yahoo llamado "Ranchos" y lo convirtio en lo que hoy
> es "Nuestros Ranchos" han ingresado mas integrantes Mexicanos, o sea que son
> residentes de Mexico. He tenido la curiosidad de preguntar el porque se han
> interesado mas gentes de Mexico en ingresar a un grupo que funciona mas de 75%
> en ingles? Tambien he querido preguntar si es que existe un grupo semejante
> dentro de Mexico? Si es que existe, sera posible que los que andamos perdidos
> por el USA podriamos ser miembros de tal grupo?> > Ahora otra pregunta a todos
> los que viven en Mexico, creen ustedes que porque viven en Mexico se les
> facilita la busqueda de sus ancestros? Tienen mas recursos en cuestion de los
> Archivos Parroquiales y registros civiles o usan principalmente los archivos
> microfilmados de La Iglesia de Los Mormones? Que ventaja tienen los residentes
> Mexicanos que no tienen los que viven fuera de Mexico? Espero que no les moleste
> que haga semejantes preguntas y que no crean que es falta de respeto porque no
> es mi intencion. Es que he pensado que algun dia me gustaria pasar un par de
> meses en Mexico en mi tierra natal para dedicarme a los estudios genealogicos y
> no se si el esfuerzo seria valioso o no.> > Mi nombre es Alicia Carrillo y como
> has de saber en Los Estados Unidos Americanos la mujer deja su apellido para
> tomar el de su esposo. Carrillo es el apellido de mi esposo. Mi nombre de
> nacimiento es Alicia Avelar, Olmos, Aguayo, Ruiz y hasta hoy la mayoria de mis
> ancestros provienen de Nochistlan Zacatecas, Jalpa Zacatecas y Pabellon Rincon
> de Romos Aguascalientes y sus alrededores mas cercanos. Si es que creen que sea
> fructifero el estar en Mexico para hacer los estudios en Mexico, quizas
> intentaremos pasar unos meses durante el verano y visitar los archivos de dichos
> pueblos o ciudades.> > Muchas Gracias y disculpe mi gramatica en espa
Hi Alicia ,
I'm Welester and I am currently living in Monterrey , Mexico however I am American and was born and raised in Los Angeles , Calif. and up until I moved to Monterrey I lived in Marina del Rey , Ca.
I started my family research when I was 9 yrs. old I say this because it started with my name ( Welester ) growing up in L.A. was not easy for a little mexican boy in East L.A. at first til I was in the 7th grade . All the kids would make fun of me cuz name wasn't Paul , Tommy , George or whatever and sometimes had to fight because of my name so, one day I asked my dad whom I called POP " Where did my name come from " and as fast as I asked him , he snapped back at me and said " WHY DON'T YOU LIKE IT ! " I sunk back into my seat and said " yea I like it " and that was that !
Believe it or not this is what made my want to learn more about the family .
Now , to get to some of your questions on , is the grass greener on the other side . I went to the Mormon church on Santa Monica Blvd. in L.A. about 27 yrs ago and asked for help , unfortunately in those days they were not as eager as they are today to help a non member of the church so they sent me off to the micro-film room and showed me the cabinet of films and basically said how bout . Didn't get very far and became discouraged and left .
Years later I tinkered some more but still no luck , I asked Pop about some things but he always seemed not to remember . I asked my aunt , his sister and she always painted a real sweet , beautiful picture in my mind about how it used to be , nothing else .
Now , 5 yrs. ago I sold one of my two companies and decided that I would go to Monterrey , Mexico for one year and quickly do all my family research , thinking , since I will be in Monterrey and Pop is from there it should be a breeze , right ... WRONG ! Guess again .
There are files in the archives that are damaged beyond repair , people who outright refuse to deal with you because to them you're still a gringo .
Grant you there are many many very good people , it just seems that the meanies all work for the goverment or the church . I've had to adjust alot and now know that most of it is Culture shock . Once you recognize it you can manage it much easier . I have been helped by some very nice people and I have had problems with others .
I visited the Mormon church here and asked for help , they were very helpful and still are , I think they consider me a potential future member of the church ;-)
Once they showed my how to navigate the familysearch web sight , things began to happen . I was befriended by Gregorio who is the person in charge of helping the stakes or Family History Centers to get thier genealogy centers moving . I assist him every once in awhile to these centers and do what I can to teach the members how to start thiere PAF's and in return I get help from them on my research .
I don't have much experience with other groups , I have heard about some but from my own experience NuestrosRanchos seems to me to be very professional and detailed for the serious genealogist . I admire Joseph and respect him very much for having this sight for people like me and all the others .
I kinda already answered your second question on , is it easier here or there but just incase I wasn't clear I would say no , it's not that much easier the people here are like the ones back home , pretty much not interested in thiere genealogy . I come from a family of 9 , six boys and three girls and I'm the only one interested in the search . I keep everybody posted on new finds and usually get responses like hmmm that's nice , HEY how bout them Lakers .
I am in no way saying not to come and visit the places of your ancestors by any means , I'm just saying it's nice here there are some drawbacks but more good than bad . I have had the honor of visiting Zacatecas , Zacatecas but unfortunately I was unable to do any research there. I plan on going back there this coming new year and staying a few days .
I have met several historians here like Isarel Cavazos , Arq. Jose Garza Carrillo , Gregorio Martinez and several others who have been helpful and have invited me to some of their meetings . Things are looking up here and one of the biggest things to have happened to me is to become a member of the NuestrosRanchos group from the other side , go figure I had to come to Mexico to become a member of a group from the states to advance in my search for my family , you gotta love it !
If anyone in the group is ever in Monterrey , PLEASE look me up , it would be a pleasure and an honor to meet you and to help you any way I can .
Your friend from the other DOWN UNDER ,
Welester
P.S. My grandfather was Carrillo from Chihuahua , Juarez . Arq.Jose Garza Carrillo says that two Carrillo brothers' came from Zacatecas , one went toward Nuevo Leon and the other to Chihuahua . I'm trying to connect those dots as well .
> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:09:57 -0800> From: alliecar@pacbell.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bienvenido Juan> > Juan,> > Bienvenido a Nuestros Ranchos!! Desde que Arturo tomo lo que era anteriormente el Grupo de Yahoo llamado "Ranchos" y lo convirtio en lo que hoy es "Nuestros Ranchos" han ingresado mas integrantes Mexicanos, o sea que son residentes de Mexico. He tenido la curiosidad de preguntar el porque se han interesado mas gentes de Mexico en ingresar a un grupo que funciona mas de 75% en ingles? Tambien he querido preguntar si es que existe un grupo semejante dentro de Mexico? Si es que existe, sera posible que los que andamos perdidos por el USA podriamos ser miembros de tal grupo?> > Ahora otra pregunta a todos los que viven en Mexico, creen ustedes que porque viven en Mexico se les facilita la busqueda de sus ancestros? Tienen mas recursos en cuestion de los Archivos Parroquiales y registros civiles o usan principalmente los archivos microfilmados de La Iglesia de Los Mormones? Que ventaja tienen los residentes Mexicanos que no tienen los que viven fuera de Mexico? Espero que no les moleste que haga semejantes preguntas y que no crean que es falta de respeto porque no es mi intencion. Es que he pensado que algun dia me gustaria pasar un par de meses en Mexico en mi tierra natal para dedicarme a los estudios genealogicos y no se si el esfuerzo seria valioso o no.> > Mi nombre es Alicia Carrillo y como has de saber en Los Estados Unidos Americanos la mujer deja su apellido para tomar el de su esposo. Carrillo es el apellido de mi esposo. Mi nombre de nacimiento es Alicia Avelar, Olmos, Aguayo, Ruiz y hasta hoy la mayoria de mis ancestros provienen de Nochistlan Zacatecas, Jalpa Zacatecas y Pabellon Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes y sus alrededores mas cercanos. Si es que creen que sea fructifero el estar en Mexico para hacer los estudios en Mexico, quizas intentaremos pasar unos meses durante el verano y visitar los archivos de dichos pueblos o ciudades.> > Muchas Gracias y disculpe mi gramatica en español. Aunque naci en Mexico, vivo en San José, Calif desde le edad de dos años. Nunca estudie el español y lo hablo y escribo malamente pero hago el intento, salga como salga.> > Atentamente,> Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Juan Luis Gomez > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:33:42 PM> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Presentarme al grupo> > > Agradezco al grupo por aceptarme participar en nuestros ranchos; espero poder entender las reglas del grupo y aprender como puedo participar. > Muchas gracias. > Juan Luis Gomez> > __________________________________________________> Correo Yahoo!> Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! > Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/ > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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I just wanted to say how happy I am for Esther and Welester to have
found each other after all these centuries. Imagine that, for a few
hundred years ago two families that lived with each other and knew each
other somehow got lost from each other. Then two people come along:
Esther and Welester and by diligent study discover each other are
cousins. And in a group that is focuses on Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes. Welester your gut feeling that your Zaldivar's came from
Zacatecas even though in my mind was a long shot paid off in that Esther
was able to make the connection and re-establish a blood line that had
been lost to each other for such a long time.
Don't worry about me everyone of the old timers in the group know that I
go off on one of these Joyful Celebrations of families that have found
each other every time connections are made within the group.
Congratulations and hopefully John Robles will bring his band to the
party and some others can cook up a big pot of Menudo and let the fiesta
begin. It is time to celebrate! ! !
what a wonderful Christmas present you two have given each other and
your families including us in the Nuestros Ranchos group.
hohoho,
joseph
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