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here is Trinidad Duran s second marriage

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5V8-9ZFF

Theres some Viramontes getting married on the opposite page, maybe theyre related to Anastasia Viramontes

Danny C. Alonso

Aaaaw, what a disappointment for us, Joseph, but good for you. Arturo would be a great leader also if he was chosen. Marge.

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> On Apr 12, 2016, at 19:54, Sylvia Lottes wrote:
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> Joseph,
> Glad to hear you've recovered from the car accident. Sad to hear you're
> retiring from managing the website but I'm sure it will free up time for
> you to enjoy doing other things.
>
> Thanks for all you've done to get the website up and running. It's been an
> amazing source of information for me and I've directed many people to this
> website who've reached out to me because of potential DNA matches.
>
> Wishing you the very best in your new world of retirement!
> Sylvia Cruz Lottes
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>> Here is a message I sent along to be posted either entirely or partially on
>> the NGGS facebook page (you all might want to start talking about the last
>> two sentences):
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>> One day in 2002 while recovering from a terrible car crash that my wife and
>> I were in (we both fully recovered), I was fooling around on the internet,
>> bored, and just decided to google "Puentes". Well lo and behold there was a
>> hit on "someone" looking for information about my father, his brothers and
>> my grandfather Julio Puentes from San Jose, CA. That day changed my life. I
>> contacted the person who posted the question and it turned out to be my
>> cousin Marty Puentes. I just want to acknowledge publicly that Marty is the
>> main reason I started doing genealogy which led me to starting the
>> http://nuestrosranchos.org group in 2003 which gathered people together
>> researching Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes that eventually led to
>> the fabulous group: Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society
>> (http://www.nuevagalicia.org/). Thank you Marty, you have advanced our
>> family's history in your search for answers to our past.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marty Puentes is the grandson of my Uncle Martin (dob 1912) brother to my
>> father, Antonio Puentes (1914) two of 8 children of Julio Puentes (1886)
>> and
>> Virginia Diaz (1886). Virginia Diaz is in picture one and six of the slide
>> show (http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article71081497.html). In
>> the
>> first picture she is sitting next to her mother Antonia Santa Maria (1862)
>> with my father Antonio on her lap and my uncle Martin to the far left along
>> with various other Tio's and Tia's. In the pistolero picture you see my
>> grandmother Virginia sitting with a sibling on her lap but the man holding
>> the pistola is my Great Grandfather Francisco Diaz (1862) with his mother,
>> my GG Grandmother, Andrea Torres (1833) to his left. Notice that Antonia
>> Santa Maria is also holding a pistola (on Francisco's right).
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>>
>>
>> Hello NGGS you all are doing great things in advancing your own
>> genealogical
>> family history and sparking wide spread interest in OUR rich history via
>> outlets like: Facebook, http://www.nuevagalicia.org/,
>> http://www.pbs.org/weta/finding-your-roots/,
>> http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com, and just via word of mouth from one
>> interested person to another interested person. Thank you for all your hard
>> work and all you have done. In the near future I'm going to be retiring
>> from
>> helm of the http://nuestrosranchos.org group. So don't be surprised if
>> soon
>> you are asked to do MORE if that group is to be continued. . .
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>> Sincerely,
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>> Joseph
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>> Joseph Puentes
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Hi Simona,

Theresa de Herrera y Quijas is my 11th great grandmother and based on her name, I'm guessing she's the daughter of Captain don Pedro de Quijas Escalante and Catalina de Saldaña, daughter of Antonio de Alcaraz and Leonor Herrera de Saldaña.

Chris

Hi Danny,
Based on this marriage of 1722, I'm guessing Manuela Mireles was born about 1700. There is a well known Mireles family from Nuevo Leon. The Domingo Mireles could correspond to Domingo de Castro Mireles Caballero who did use the name Domingo de Mireles. He lived in the same time frame as your Manuela Mireles. I don't believe he was old enough to be the father, but, it's possible he is the brother. I'm not really that familiar with these Nuevo Leon families, but, I have seen his named mention on several genealogies compiled by John Inclan. You might want to check those.
Chris

From: Danny Alonso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 5:41 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Manuea Mireles and Pedro de Arias

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm trying to locate the parents of Manuela Mireles and Pedro de Arias.
There children were from San Luis Potosi and Zacatecas, but these people
got married in a place called Nuevo Leon, i don't know how close that is or
where it' is. it says they live on the rancho of Domingo Mireles. Does
anyone know who Domingo Mireles is, i'm thinking he might be her father or
relative.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS24-TB

Danny C. Alonso

¿Funciona todavía esta página?

Les paso el link activo donde ya esta el acceso a los Archivos del Archivo
Historico de Aguascalientes:

http://sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx/axweb/

Saludos y Excelente noticia!!

Ojala ahora sigamos con proyectos de transcripcion de documentos de orden
Notarial y Judicial!

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] BUENAS NOICIAS DE TESTAMENTOS EN LINEA
PARAAGUASCALIENTES

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Excelente Noticia!! Ya me habian anticipado algo pero sin Fecha!!

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From:
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To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] BUENAS NOICIAS DE TESTAMENTOS EN LINEA
PARAAGUASCALIENTES

> HOLA A TODOS LOS MIEMBROS QUE ESTAN BUSCANDO INFORMACION DE ANTEPASADOS EN
> AGUASCALIENTES LES COMENTO QUE TODOS LOS DOCUMENTOS NOTARIALES DE LA EPOCA
> DE LA COLONIA ESTAN YA EN LA RED, TESTAMENTOS, CARTAS DE DOTE MATRIMONIAL
> Y ESCRITURAS. SOLO TIENEN QUE INGRESAR A LA SIGUIENTE PAGUINA DE INTERNET
> ES www.sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx un saludo
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Hi Stephanie,

Do you know where in Mexico Lucas Martin and ____Gregoria are from? Also, are you sure about Gregoria being a last name? It's more of a first name. Also, do you know who Isabel Martin married and where?

Chris

R.A. Ricci,

Oh wow! I also just sent you a message from the site profile contact page a few day ago. (I guess it also didn't go through.) It had to with the Velasquez line that you are a part of and you have written 2 different snippets in a couple of different forum posts a few years back.

Although I'm just getting around to asking about the family, I found out a few months ago that I am a descendant of Blas Velasquez and Micaela Mendoza through their son Joseph. Joseph moved and married in Ocotlan, Jal. in 1727 and a lot of his descendants seem to have stayed in that region for many generations. I was stuck on one generation under Joseph with his daughter Josepha Velsaquez, my 7x greatgrandmother, for a few years. I finally came across the really faded Marriage Informational for her in a disorganized collection of other Marriage Informational jumping back and forth between 1755-1757 in La Barca. (Marriage records for La Barca during the 1730s-1770s didn't give the couple's parents name)

Anyways I am now at standstill at Blas but have seen that you have his parents information and at least a few other generations. Can you help me out? my email is paul_gonzales91@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Paul

I also sent Rick a message via NR. Did you receive it?

Hi Danny,

Juana Manuela Lozano de Gardea was born in 1703 and baptized 13 June 1703 in Aguascalientes. Her padrinos were Onofre Rodriguez de Loaiza and Phelipa Ruiz de Esparza. Her parents were Eugenio Lozano and Maria Duran.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XX6R-X8

After she was widowed from Bartolome Joseph Martel, she remarried Pablo de Aranda, when she was 61 years old.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GKZ-NY

Eugenio Lozano was the son of Joseph Lozano and Petrona Gonzalez de Gardea. Joseph Lozano was the natural born son of Cristobal Lozano, the son of Cristobal Lozano Martinez and Maria de Islas.

Maria Duran was the daughter of Andres Duran and Juana de la Ascencion Vasquez de Sandoval. Andres Duran was the son of Juan Ximon Duran and Regina de Aguayo. Juana de la Ascencion Vasquez de Sandoval was the daughter of Juan Moscoso y Sandoval and Catalina Cortes.

Chris

Raul

Faustina Alva, age 2, son of Jose Dolores Alva, death recorded Sep. 25, 1903, Apaseo el Alto, GTO. His mother's name is not provided.

The citation is Apaseo el Alto, GTO, civil death records, 1901-08 (FHL film 775850), image 222. Record #128.

If you go to Family Search you should be able to download the image. The image number should be the same, but depending on how the images are posted at Family Search the image could be a little before or after this image number ... just look for the date.

George

Hi Raul,

Is it the one for Sep 25, 1903? That record is for a 2 year old.

Paige

Raul

Many public libraries, as well as all the LDS family history centers, have access to the institutional version of Ancestry.com. You can use these to get the info you need - both of these sites will allow you to down the images of the records you find.

I am planning to go to the library tomorrow, and will look for you.

George Fulton

Welcome, Vanessa!

I don't know how much you know about how to use familysearch, but it is a fantastic resource.

Doing a quick search of it with the info you gave us, I believe I found your grandfather in the 1930 US Federal Census.

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenn…~

That image gives us your grandfather, great-grandfather and great-grandmother's ages. It is important to always use real documents and to write down when and where you got your information. We call it "documenting your sources." Otherwise nothing is certain. Starting with an approximate year they were each born should allow you to search the images of familysearch for their baptisms or civil registration.

Below is the link to the image-by-image register of the baptisms in Degollado in the time frame your grandfather would have been born. It may take you some time, but I would star around 1921 and go through 1923. As you get more used to the documents you get faster and you find how much fun this can be!

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-XCSH-JY?wc=3J4F-N3D%3A1719…

Good luck!

Sergio Salés

Hi Vanessa,

Welcome to the group.

Chris

Welcome to the Group Nesska. Im not familiar with your people but i'll see if I can find something about them

Danny C. Alonso

Hi David,

I think you're on the right track with some of these testigos. Many are interrelated. Beatriz González, madrina to Juan Lozano, I believe is the daughter of Luis González and Catalina de Quiroga and the granddaughter of Luis González and Beatriz Gallegos, that would also explain the Martel connection as Beatriz Gallegos is a probable daughter of Captain Hernando Martel, founder of Santa Maria de los Lagos.

Felipe González, testigo to Juan Antonio Lozano, is the brother to the above Beatriz González, and also grandson of the same Luis González and Beatriz Gallegos.

Miguel Martel, testigo to Manuel Lozano's marriage is the brother to the above named Francisco Martel. He's the son of Hernando Martel and Beatriz de Retamosa, aka Beatriz Macías Valadez, aka Beatriz de Villegas. He's also grandson of the same Luis González and Beatriz Gallegos.

Chris

I see Andrea de Rutiaga. Look at the "R" on "Ramirez," just a couple of lines up. It's identical.

That's the surname of an early SLP family.

Manny Diez Hermosillo

hi my name is stephanie martinez and i have been doing some research regarding my great grandparents sides of the families. my great grandmother was felisitas coronoado who was from a rancho in villa de cos, mexico and was married in that area also to a man by the name of crescencio martinez and was buried in lyons, kansas. my surnames currently researching are coronado, martinez jaramillo, sanchez and many more . i hopes to hear from someone in here and thanks for having me. this is the file folder regarding my family members if anyone would like to view it and thank you .. http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/stephmartinez316

I am looking for this ancestor who married Ricardo Francisco (b 1826abt) Villegas and had my gggrandfather Rutillo VIllegas b 2 Aug 1879. I show that Ricardo was from Penjamo, Guanajuato, mex. Thanks for any help

ancestry page for this family http://person.ancestry.com/tree/5338733/person/6273132132/facts

Hello to all!
My name is Carolyn Gomez Duran. I live in Colorado. I am researching family in Fresnillo and Pinos, Zacatecas.

I am stuck on Roman Esparza C. 1830 in Fresnillo, married to Rosalia Gaitan born Sep. 9, 1835 in Pinos, Zac.
I can’t find records for Esparza. I have followed the Gaitan line to a Miguel Gaitan abt. 1706 in Pinos and Antonia Arias Bedolla.

I would also appreciate help with Tomas Moreno 1837 and Maria Agustina Torres Arroyo in Fresnillo.
Tomas’ parents are Felix Moreno and Candida Gomez.
Maria Agustina’s parents are Antonio Arroyo and Maria Torres.

I am also researching Garza, Navarro, Palacios, Sosa, Delgado, Castaneda, Jimenez, Munos, Sanchez to name a few of my ancestors!!

Any help or direction anyone can give would be appreciated.

Thank you!
Carolyn

Ronnie,

you did confuse me. I don't get what you're looking for if you know their parents?

Danny C. Alonso

Hi Danny,

Thanks for reposting the link to Mary Lou's dropbox, I couldn't find it the other day. I don't have the answer to your question, although, I do descend from Isabel Marín.

My question is about the daughter Antonia de las Ruelas, wife of Alonso de Laredo, that received the dowry of 4000 pesos. I'm curious if anyone is aware of her children. Because, I have a couple that I've hit a brick wall on, Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor and Juana de Laris y Otalora and looking at the name Laredo de Sotomayor, it would make sense that his parents might be Alonso de Laredo and Antonia de las Ruelas, knowing that the Ruelas family also use Sotomayor. If anyone is aware of the children of Alonso de Laredo and Antonia de las Ruelas, please let me know.

Chris

Holy cow this sounds interesting!

This is reminiscent of Rebecca Skloot's book, "The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks." Henrietta was a cancer patient many years ago from whom doctors took cells without her knowledge or permission. They developed cell lines from her that are still today used in research, with financial gain for various individuals and organizations, and with nothing for her or her family. This was done before informed consent was required for participation in medical research.

I wonder if the practice of these DNA testing companies is consistent with modern medical informed consent practice?

This book is still available and is worth reading.

George Fulton