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Noe...My grandmother Fidela/Fidelia was born about the same time frame as your mother. After reading several films, I found
her..... her name was spelled
"Efidelia"...so, perhaps just adding an "E"
may help you locate her.
Lots of luck.../hs

 
I would appreciate any assistance in finding documents, records or pedigree charts regarding my mother, Fidela (or Fidelia) Martinez born April 24, 1916 in Concepcion del Oro, Zacatecas, Mexico to Maria de Jesus Martinez and Luis Camarillo.  Also any documents, records or pedigree charts for Maria de Jesus and Luis Camarillo.
Thank you.     Noe B. Calvillo, Austin TX

Did they immigrate to the United States? Where do you think they were living in 1920 and 1930? When and where was Fidela married and to whom?

Esther,

Thank you for the information but the record that you are referring to was submitted by an individual and is not part of the extraction projects of the LDS Church. Thus, it is less reliable unless the submitter has actual source information. These type of records say the following or something similar:

Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

All of the historical accounts I read list Miguel Hidalgo as having been born in Corralejo, Guanajuato. Although sometimes what is written in the history books is wrong one cannot prove or disprove a "historical fact" without evidence. I am by no means saying that he was not born where he is purported to having been born. What I am saying is that I would like some proof.

Recently a colleague and I found that the historical information on the parentage of a couple of historical figures was erroneous. Another individual I researched was not born in the locality where they were said to have been born. So, I am still trying to verify the information for the birth and baptismal place of Miguel Hidalgo. If I cannot obtain an actual christening record then collaborative evidence will have to suffice, e.g. marriage documentation, death record, will, etc...

Again, I thank you for the information you provided; but I am a little weary of non-sourced information. I would definitely have to study the the information with caution.

Saludos desde Lago Salado

Eduardo H Seoane

Hey David, could you give a bit more info acestorwise on Marcelino and Gila? My Esparzas came from

Media Luna. -Daniel

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Does anyone have a copy of the actual christening record for Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla? I have been searching for his christening record but have come up empty handed. I am aware of the transcript of about 1829 that is found online but I would like to look at the copy of the original, or if possible eventually the original. Does anyone have a copy or know where I can find one? Unfortunately the Genealogical Society of Utah did not film the dates of his christening. According to the transcript he was baptized in the parish of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos and born in Corralejo. The Hacienda of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos became a town in 1851 and the town is now known as Abasolo.

TEngo algo pero no se a quien buscas
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

http://familiahidalgopena.blogspot.com/
El nombre completo de Hidalgo es Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla?

Don Miguel Hidalgo procreó cinco hijos: Agustina, Cristóbal, Mariano Lino, María, Micaela y Joaquín Hidalgo y Costilla?

SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

Could you sent me some of your work? I am very interested in this topic!
-Daniel
mendezdelcamino@live.com

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Geneanet at http://www.geneanet.org/ is one I like it.

Armando

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> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: malinallitekpatl@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:03:04 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Looking for a good and free/cheap family history website to share my family history
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Hola Alessandro ,

De nuevo , muchas gracias mi prima y yo somos los unicos en nuestros familias que nos interesa la genealogia . Yo por mi papa que es la abuela de mi prima los Alvarado , Almaguer y Audrey por los Alvarado y Vitela .

Toda via hay mucho que investigar pero gracias a ti estamos mas adelantado .

Welester

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> Tambien, debo agregar, que asi como otras personas me han ayudado a mi en otras cosas, mucho o poco, yo quise regresar el favor de igual manera.... "Hay que dar para poder recibir", yo espero que alguien tenga la buena voluntad también de ayudarme a mi sin singun interes de por medio más que "compartir". Lo digo de corazón.
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Te voy a mandar los dos registros bautismales por coreo electronico de las niñas que nacieron en Tesistan. Los bautismos de ellas son los mas antiguos de los que se encuentran en la computadora pero eso no quiere decir que no hay otros hijos bautizandose ahi. Como veras son hijas legitimas y hay una gran probabilidad que encontraras el Matrimonio ahi de sus padres o en Zapopan. Como ya has de saber la parroquia de Tesistan es vicaria de Zapopan. La información en los registros de defunción no siempre esta correcta, ya que normalmente es uno de los hijos ó nietos que proporcióna la información y no estaban precentes en el evento (nacimiento). Pero si es el caso que Juana Villareal Salas realmente nacio en Jalapa en 1877 entonces buscaria el matrimonio de sus padres ahi en lugar de tesistan ó Zapopan.

Hola Alessandro ,

Soy Welester G. Alvarado , gracias por la informacion que le mandaste a mi prima Audrey sobre su abuelo Vitela .

Welester

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Do you know where and when Juan Villarreal got married to Dionisia Salas? Did they get married in Tesistan, Jalisco, Mexico?

In Teocaltiche...

In Teocaltiche you will not be allowed to handle the church records, you
will have to submit a list of names and dates that you are interested in.
Personnel there are very courteous and helpful, they will tell you when to
come back to pick up whatever copies of documents you request. Do not
expect to get results the same day you request them, most of the time it
will take a couple of days or longer.

The main Plaza is undergoing some remodeling, and at the present time, most
of the ground covering is being replaced. Lot of construction and
beautification work is under way and it look like all the work might not get
finished for the "11 de Noviembre" fiesta.

Suggest to your cousin a side trip to Santa Ana to visit Santo Toribio
Romo's Church, just outside of Jalostotitlan. Jalos is just about 40 minutes
from Teocaltiche and also about the same distance to San Juan de Los Lagos.
Both side trips are very intersting , enjoyable and doable in one day.

John Gonzalez
1gnzlz@verizon.net

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teocaltiche visit

> My cousin is visiting Teocaltiche this November. He is researching the
> family surnames: Lopez, Martinez, Reyes; and places: Rancho Lo De Carrera,
> Villa Hidalgo (Paso De Sotos), Teocaltiche, Lagos de Moreno. He will be
> looking for marraige, christening, birth and death records. Are there any
> tips members can offer him? Thank you, L.Newman

Um, Los Altos is beautiful, he prob wont be able to go everywhere, theres just so much. As to Teocaltiche, visit the local church,

if you have the exact date you can get an official copy of the record which is nice to have. I descend from the same De Soto family of Teocaltiche. They are the first family to have known live in the settlement known as Paso de Soto and to the north in Calvillo there is also another town called Arroyo de Soto. My ancestor Arcadia de Soto came from "a distuingished'' alteno family. Segun su padre don Mateo de Soto had much influence in Teocaltiche and Calvillo where the family owned much land. According to my grandfather don Mateo de Soto lived in a nice house accross the church in the plaza, not sure if the original house still stands? He doesnt know which house exactly his grandfather is a son of dona Arcadia. This is where the Camino Soto family came from; when don Mariano de Camino y Martinez married dona Arcadia de Soto y Frausto. Lagos is very nice!!!! Make sure to have that as a must. One of the most important Spanish families of Teocaltiche would be los Villalobos and
Chaves y Fragoso. The Chaves owned a lot of Teocaltiche not sure if its the hacienda San Marcos? I also descend from this family. If he is interested in more recent ancestors try visiting el Registro Civil. Aguas is about an hour northeast nice place. Try some cheese in Tepa and some bocadillos from San Juan. They prob have something as regards to a festival in Nov in southern Los Altos. I lovethe melecoton from Jalos. Los Altos is the best place in Mejico, the food is great, dancing is fun and remember to have a great time. Hope this helps!!! -Daniel Camino

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Hello,

Can you please e-mail me, I would like to talk to you one on one. Here is my e-mail angelrcervantes@yahoo.com

This is in regards to your Cervantes family line.

Thanks,
Angel R. Cervantes

Have you searched for the border crossings of your relatives? They often have additionsl information as to the location where the ancestors came from see, Ancestry.com for the digital copies. They often have pictures, especially the more recent ones. I'll give you some more hints later I have to go.

Evelyn,

Disregards my previous message. I thought these records were from
Aguascalientes, and just realized that they are from UNION DE SAN ANTONIO in
JALISCO, some 50 miles from Aguascalientes. I have no knowledge of this
area. Sorry if I mislead you.

BILL FIGUEROA

Angel,

I have a great deal of data on the Duran lines from Nochistlan Zacatecas but unfortunately my research is post the 1700's, I'm not there yet.

I can scroll through my database to see who and what I find that may appear to be relevant.

Alicia,
San Jose,
Calif

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From: "angelrcervantes@yahoo.com"
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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:55:59 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico - Cervantes

I am looking for male descendants of the following Cervantes from Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico:

1) Diego Joseph Cervantes Duran, born on 01/16/1746 son of

Basilio Cervantes Negrete & Manuela Duran Ruiz de Esparza

2) Lazaro Faustino Cervantes Duran, born on 12/20/1749 son of
Basilio Cervantes Negrete & Manuela Duran Ruiz de Esparza

3) Nicolas Joseph Cervantes Duran, born on 09/09/1758 son of

Ignacio Cervantes Negrete & Maria Anna Duran Ruiz de Esparza

Lazaro Faustino Cervantes Duran marries Josepha de Castanedo y Zeballos on 02/02/1771 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico.

If someone has information on this family bloodline, please contact me.

Thank You,
Angel R. Cervantes
angelrcervantes@yahoo.com

Hi Rose. That site is very nice and I have read a lot on their myself.
Dr. Julia Gomez Prieto also published the following -
http://www.basques.euskadi.net/t32-448/en/contenidos/informacion/06_rev…
Where did your Basque ancestors move to? My ancestors were from
Balmaseda, Vizcaya. Some generations moved around and my bisabuelo
moved to Lagos de Moreno. Another good site for Basque and Spanish
genealogical lines is http://www.euskalnet.net/laviana/

Armando

On 10/17/09, rosehardy@hotmail.com wrote:
> For the past couple of weeks I have been working on my Basque line. Two
> weeks ago I found out that one of my ancestral lines comes from the Conde
> del Valle de Suchil. Family rumor had it that there was a Duke in the
> family.....it turns out he was a Count instead and his son.
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> Since then I have been scouring the internet for anything I can find on the
> families and the Basque country. I came across this website, I'd thought I'd
> share as it has a small passenger listing extraction:
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> http://www.balmasedahistoria.com/america/pasajeros.htm
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> Rose
> Fresno

Thanks for the translations Bill, they help a LOT.

I also noticed that Carlos was born in Montoro. From what I can discover, Montoro is located in San Jose de Gracia, Aguascalientes, Mexico. 6 days later he was baptized in Union de San Antonio. His sister, Maria, was born in Viscaino, which appears to be on the Baja penninsula. 3 days later she was baptized in Union de San Antonio. Is it possible that their family was doing that much traveling? Is it possible that Montoro and Viscaino are also names of ranches/farms?

- Evelyn

Saben cuando estaran los archivos de Jalisco y Zacatecas en el Pilot search ?????

Saludos cordiales

Antonio Santillan

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Hi, I know that the state of aguascalientes does provide those services through their oficial website, you order it online and they'll proceed upon your request.The direct link is
http://eservicios.aguascalientes.gob.mx/servicios/default.asp?s=RC
 
I hope this helps you.
Have a nice day!!!!
 
J.Guadalupe Jaime Chavez

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From: mendozafowler@yahoo.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nurestra Senora De Blen Church
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 5:57 PM

Does anyone have the mailing address for Nuestra Senora De Belen Church in Asientos, Aguascalientes?  I would like to obtain a copy of the baptism certificate of my g-g-grandmother, Ciriaca Paula Marchan (b. 7-5-1790). Her parents were Juan De Dios Marchan and Maria Marzelina Gonzalez. I have tried the Mexico Yellow pages on the internet and was not able to find it. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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María,

All church records for the State of Aguascalientes have been uploaded the the Family Search Pilot site by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, covering from the year 1616 through 1961. That includes baptisms, confirmations, pre-marital information, marriages, deaths, etc. It is amazing what the mormons have done in this regard in the last 60-70 years, first microfilming and scanning hundredths of thousands of records in churches throughout the world, and more recently uploading them onto their FamilySearch Pilot site. Access is free for anyone researching his or her genealogy. I spent several years checking rolls of film at a local Family History Center here in Dallas, but now all I have to do is seat in front of my computer in the comfort of my own home, and display the same records that are on microfilm. They have NOT been indexed yet, so you need to know the exact date of the event to narrow it down, but if you have patience you can browse the records having only an approximate date. Not all the states are currently available. So far the mormon church has uploaded the states of Aguascalientes, Baja California, Campeche, Chihuahua, Coahuila and Colima, apparently in alphabetical order. At the current pace, it may take several months or years before San Luis Potosi becomes available, but in the meantime you can order the microfilm to find the specific records you want to check. The rental per microfilm is only US $5.50 for an entire month. You don't have to belong to the mormon church to use their Family History Center facilities. Anyone is welcome, regardless of faith or religious preference. And no-one tries to convert you, either.

The link to access the LDS pilot site is as follows:

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

Do not fill out anything on the first page. Click "Browse our record collections" near the bottom. The display shows a small map of the world.

Using your mouse, click anywhere on the Canada, USA and Mexico region. A list of 97 available collections will be displayed. Mexico is at the bottom. The first line reads "Mexico Aguascalientes Catholic Church Records 1616-1961". Click on that line. The next page shows a list of feligresias (parishes) : Aguascalientes, Asientos, Calvillo, Jesus Maria and Rincon de Romos. Click on Asientos... etc.

Let me know if you have any problems accessing this site or if you have any questions.

Good luck,

BILL FIGUEROA

Hi,

The church records for Ntra. Sra. de Belen in Asientos, Aguascalientes, can
be found online at the Family Search Pilot site. I copied the entry for
Ciriaca Paula Marchan and emailed it to you directly. Let me know if you
still want to contact the church.

BILL FIGUEROA

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Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nurestra Senora De Belen Church

Does anyone have the mailing address for Nuestra Senora De Belen Church in
Asientos, Aguascalientes? I would like to obtain a copy of the baptism
certificate of my g-g-grandmother, Ciriaca Paula Marchan (b. 7-5-1790). Her
parents were Juan De Dios Marchan and Maria Marzelina Gonzalez. I have tried
the Mexico Yellow pages on the internet and was not able to find it. Any
assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.

Joseph I will be glad to contact her since it's my record and my direct ancestor she has here..

Linda in B.C.

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From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [hi, please respond]
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 3:36 PM

Can anyone make a connection to this person? If so please contact them directly and encourage them to consider membership in the group as well.

joseph

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Subject:     Hi please respond
Date:     Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:19:22 -0700 (PDT)
From:     linda brooks
To:     joseph@nuestrosranchos.org

I am looking for anything on my family. What caught my eye on this website Nuestros Ranchos was the name "Santiago Saldivar". According to my knowlegde there was 3 brothers that moved to Mexico from Spain or Portugal in the early 1800's. Their names were Richrado (my GGG?grandpa), Felipe and Santiago. I do not have much to go with Felipe or Santiago. I just found a cousin 3 times removed or so. And she had alot more knowlegde. I really nothing to go. My mom did not know any thing that she could tell us. My mom was from Montemorelos NL Mexico. So I thought that the Santiago named on the site would  or could be the same relative I am looking for. I do know that their mom and dad were Juan Saldivar and Maria Apollina Alaniz.And their mom I think was Martin and Patricia De leon.
Please respond no matter what if any information you might have.

Thank you for your time.
Linda

Marriage information recorded 29 April 1853 in Jerez
Santiago Saldivar from Jumolco age 51
Parents: Nicolas Zaldivar and Micaela Caldera both deceased
With: Juliana Caldera from Durazno age 20
Parents: Toribio Caldera and Matiana Carrillo both deceased
Dispensa de consanguinedad en tercero con cuatro grado
Witness: Calletano Martinez from Durazno married age 47, labrador
Witness: Juan Minchaca from Durazno married age 46, labrador
Witness: Cristobal Martinez from Durazno married age 43, labrador
Posted 29 April, 24 and 26 April 1853
source: 0439902 Jerez marriage information