Researching possible relative Juan de Saavedra in 17th century Lagos, and I ran across the de Saavedra y Guzman family, Basically, the below pedigree is cobbled from different sources. In some cases, I found this family group in online trees with the addition of my Juan de Saavedra and his wife Maria de Villegas:
PEDIGREE 1
1 Antonio de Saavedra Guzmán (Espanol) (c.1562-c.1620)
m. Catalina de Villafañe y Alvarado
1.1 Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (birth estimates range from c.1589/c.1590)
m. María de Monroy y Flores (birth estimates range from c.1590 to c.1633)
1.1.1 Juan de Saavedra (Espanol) (birth estimates range from c.1590 to b.1634 and most dates for death are c.1675)
m. María de Villegas alias de Rodas alias Gonzales (Espanola/mestizo) (b.????)
1.1.1.1 Ana Saavedra (b.1651)
1.1.1.2 Ines Saavedra (b.1653)
1.1.1.3 Juana Saavedra (b.1654)
1.1.1.4 Josepha Saavedra (b.1660)
1.1.1.5 María Saavedra (abt.1663?)
1.1.1.6 Juan Saavedra (b.1664)
1.1.1.7 Phelipe Saavedra (b.1664)
1.1.1.8 Santiago Saavedra (b.????)
1.1.2 Isabel de Saavedra y Monroy (most online dates of birth are around c.1633)
m. Ines de Brenes y Mendoza (birth dates are again all over the map, usually c.1610 to c. 1622)
1.1.2 Isabel de Saavedra y Monroy (some pedigrees place Isabel as daughter of Ines de Brenes y Mendoza)
- There are many issues with this pedigree like the overly wide age gap between Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) and Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1), if it is adjusted to make more sense, then a large age gap forms between Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1) and Ana Saavedra (1.1.1.1).
- There is a documented relationship between Antonio de Saavedra Guzmán (1) and Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) but no verified date of birth for Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) and his wives.
- There is no documentation to support the relationship between Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (1.1) and my Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1). Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1) seemingly appears from nowhere.
The proven pedigree I researched below belongs to another Juan Saavedra. It is based upon this Juan de Saavedra's marriage record and the baptism record of his daughter, María:
PEDIGREE 2
A Juan de Saavedra (b.????)
m. ????
A.A Juan de Saavedra (Espanol) (b.????)
m.1633 Ana de Quesada (b.????) (daughter of María Alonso)
A.A.A María de Saavedra (Espanola) (b.1634) - Padrinos: Domingo Basques and Maria Basques
Note: I saw an online pedigree on geneanet.org identifying Ana de Quesada with Ana López De Quezada y Mendoza, daughter of Alonso Diaz de Quezada and Juana Bautista Sanchez de Mendoza. In 1637, Juan de Saavedra and wife, Juana Lopes, served as padrinos in the baptism of Gertrudes Hernandes Xuares. If the Juan de Saavedra (A.A) of Pedigree 2 and the Juan de Saavedra of this 1637 baptism are the same person, that would lend credence to the idea that Juan de Saavedra (A.A) married Ana López de Quezada y Mendoza.
Since Juan de Saavedra y Guzman (1.1) from the online Pedigree 1 was likely married to Ines de Brenes y Mendoza during the 1630s, he cannot be Juan de Saavedra (A.A) from pedigree 2, who is clearly too old to be the Juan de Saavedra (1.1.1), who married María de Villegas and produced children into the early 1670s.
I inserted Juan de Saavedra (A.A) from Pedigree 2 into Pedigree 1, resolving the age gap between 1.1 AND 1.1.1:
REVISED PEDIGREE 1 (with guessed ages in bold)
1 Antonio de Saavedra Guzmán (Espanol) (c.1562-c.1620)
m. Catalina de Villafañe y Alvarado
1.1 Juan de Saavedra y Guzmán (b. c1589)
m. María de Monroy y Flores (b. c1590)
1.1.1 Juan de Saavedra (Espanol) (b. c1610)
m.1633 Ana de Quesada (b. c1610) (possibly Ana Lopez de Quezada)
1.1.1.1 Juan de Saavedra (Espanol) (b. c1632)
m. María de Villegas alias de Rodas alias Gonzales (Espanola/mestizo) (b.????)
1.1.1.1.1 Ana Saavedra (b.1651)
1.1.1.1.2 Ines Saavedra (b.1653)
1.1.1.1.3 Juana Saavedra (b.1654)
1.1.1.1.4 Josepha Saavedra (b.1660)
1.1.1.1.5 María Saavedra (abt.1663?)
1.1.1.1.6 Juan Saavedra (b.1664)
1.1.1.1.7 Phelipe Saavedra (b.1664)
1.1.1.1.8 Santiago Saavedra (b.????)
1.1.1.2 María de Saavedra (Espanola) (b.1634) - Padrinos: Domingo Basques and María Basques
1.1.2 Isabel de Saavedra y Monroy (c1633)
m. Ines de Brenes y Mendoza (birth dates are again all over the map, usually c1610 to c1622)