Ancestry.com online family trees

Primos,

Regards Ancestry.com online family trees:

I found out the hard way that if you share (by clicking share) on someone else's Tree's photos or photos of Catholic Church digital records that when that owner of that Tree deletes his/her own Tree, you lose all that data yourself.

It is better to copy/paste those photos into your own "picture file" and then upload them into your own Tree to permanently keep them.

Jose Carlos de Leon

Villalobos y Ximenez de Nochistlan

Hola a Todos
Por cuestiones de cambio de ciudad y trabajo estuve muy fuera del foro.
Les comparto que tengo un libro de la Genealogía de los Torres de Jaen(Gonzalo Torres Martínez), por si alguien requieren alguna información.
Me gustaría ver si me pudiesen ayudar a encontrar a los orígenes de los ascendientes de Juan Ysidro De Villalobos y Anna Ximenez ( que se casaron en Nochistlan el 11 de octubre de 1769). Tengo que los padres de Juan Ysidro son Francisco de Villalobos y María Carrillo y los de Anna (Creo que Joseph) Ximenez y María Rodríguez.
Gracias de antemano todas las enseñanzas compartidas en el foro.

Francisco Michel Ordones

I have found a major flaw in my tree. It seems I have fallen victim to the syndrome of "too many people with the same name." I somehow had combined Francisco Michel-Ordones (1), married to Michaela Lopez-Bueso, with Francisco Michel-Ordones (2), married to Manuela Lopez-Bueso and then to Lorenza Gertrudes Gonzales. My husband is a direct descendant of both of these men.

Francisco (1), was married to Michaela up to the time of his death in 1709:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18721-8269-65?cc=1874591&wc=…

I have 7 children listed for this couple: Maria (Directly descended), Dominga, Domingo, Juana, Ascencio, Ignacio, Regina. I haven't located a marriage for this couple nor can I verify their parents...although there are several possibilities. A strong possibility is that he is the brother of Thomas Michel-Ordones, father of Francisco (2).

Francisco (2), was born to Thomas Michel-Ordones and Augustina Escobar in 1694 in Autlan:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18561-19394-40?cc=1874591&wc…

was married to Manuela Lopez-Bueso until her death in 1742 in Sayula:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18571-57336-26?cc=1874591&wc…

I have 5 children listed for this couple: Maria de la Concepcion, Juan Matias, Thomas, Julio Feliciano, and Justa Maria.

Francisco (2) married in 1744 in Sayula:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18578-4484-49?cc=1874591&wc=…

This couple had at least 6 children: Maria Magdalena (directly descended), Bernardino Jose, Juan Marcelo, Agustin Maria, Josef Francisco, and Thomas.

I've spent hours sorting out these two people and their families, but now I can't seem to be left with a swirl of information. I would greatly appreciate if someone could provide a life-preserver...or at least a stick.

Thank you,
Deedra Corona

Real de El Carrizal

Hello...does anyone know where I can get more info regarding Reales?
I'm going through 1780 archives, and I'm coming up with towns called Real de (fill in blank). Many are now towns such as Real de La Yesca (where I'm presently researching) or Real de Bolaños. I can't seem to find Real de El Carrizal or Real de San Raphael.
I am noticing priests distinguishing between ciudades, pueblos, ranchos & haciendas.
Anyone know of a website or book that can fill me in?'

Cheers,
Andelmo

Introduction and information on Ysabel Macias

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum

I'm Danny and I've been researching my family for about a month. It started
as a school project but then I became really interested after it was over.
My Spanish teacher that's LDS was helping me read the records. I'm not sure
of the actual ranches that my familes ancestors are from, but they're
mostly on records from the Encarnacion de Diaz section of Family Search.
Ive traced my family to Ysabel Masias and Juan Antonio De Robalcaba married
in El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico on May 27th 1764 but
the record wasn't readable, even by my teacher. Thank you for letting me be
in the forum and if the forum knows who Ysabel Masias's ancestors are
please tell me.

--
Danny C. Alonso

Research Digest, Vol 109, Issue 6

En Saltillo, Este jueves proximo, mañana 12 de febrero, se inicia un Taller
de genealogía y Paleografia en la Universidad Autónoma de Coahuila,
Camporredondo, Instituto de Enseñanza Abierta. (Tel: 4149285). De 18 a
19:30. Si puede lleve fotocopia de su propia acta de nacimiento.
Instructor:Miguel
Ángel Munoz Borrego .

Miguel Ángel Muñoz Borrego
844-1831158 celular
Saltillo, Coahuila, Mexico.

2015-02-11 17:08 GMT-06:00 :

What does C.M. mean?

Many thanks to all of you who replied to my question : Julieta, Emilie, and
Mario. I really appreciate the explanations. Muchas gracias.
Saludos,
Beverly

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1. Re: What does C. M. mean? (Emilie Garcia)
2. Re: Introduction and information on Ysabel Macias (Emilie Garcia)
3. Introduction and information on Ysabel Macias (Danny Alonso)
4. Introduction and information on Ysabel Macias (Danny Alonso)
(Danny Alonso)
5. Re: What does C. M. mean? (Mario Gonzalez)
6. Introduction and information on Ysabel Macias (IChristopher)
7. Re: What does C. M. mean? (julievalens@bluewin.ch)
8. Introduction and information on Ysabel Macias (Danny Alonso)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 17:26:05 -0800
From: Emilie Garcia
To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] What does C. M. mean?
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Ciudadano means "citizen", but in Mexico, what was a "mexicano"? I guess it
meant a mestizo? Otherwise he would be "indio" and not "espanol"?. I'm
confused.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 23:14:09 -0600
> From: glezgo65@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> CC: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] What does C. M. mean?
>
> C M = Ciudadano Mexicano
>
> 2015-02-06 22:44 GMT-06:00 Beverly Ewald :
>
> >
> >
> > I have recently come across some baptismal records that have the
> > infant's names, followed by the initials C. M. Can anyone tell me what
the C. M.
> > stands for? Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > See this image:
> >
> > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20465-15470-77?cc=1860
> > 864&wc=M
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That’s because people don’t snip the tails off their emails before responding. Extremely confusing for those of us who get the digest. And inconsiderate.

Linda

Recording Latitude/Longtitude Coordinates of places for future descendants

One of the places that disappear are cemetaries. I have been asking around where the old cemetaries during colonial times were in our villages. Some people don't know and others have said that it is at a place where now a Church, rodeo or other structures exists today.

I would like to get a device or Garmin Etrex that gives you latitude and longtitude coordinates of the very spot you are at. So as to note it down. For in case of descendants in the future that do geneology research and want to locate certain spots. The coordinates would give the precise spot.

Introduction and information on Ysabel Macias (Danny Alonso)

Thank you sir for the additional ancestors. Is this the wedding of Ysabel
Macias's parents

Name: Joseph Manuel Macias
Spouse's
Name: Maria Josepha De Aguilar
Event Date: 01 Oct
1762 Event
Place: El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60485-1

, System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 299828

--
Danny C. Alonso

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> Macias
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> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum
>
> I'm Danny and I've been researching my family for about a month. It started
> as a school project but then I became really interested after it was over.
> My Spanish teacher that's LDS was helping me read the records. I'm not sure
> of the actual ranches that my familes ancestors are from, but they're
> mostly on records from the Encarnacion de Diaz section of Family Search.
> Ive traced my family to Ysabel Masias and Juan Antonio De Robalcaba married
> in El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico on May 27th 1764 but
> the record wasn't readable, even by my teacher. Thank you for letting me be
> in the forum and if the forum knows who Ysabel Masias's ancestors are
> please tell me.
>
> --
> Danny C. Alonso
>
>
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Looking for direct male descendant of Diego ROMO son of Diego ROMO DE VIVAR

Looking for direct male descendant of Diego ROMO (abt. 1630) son of Diego ROMO DE VIVAR (1589-1650) with family tree showing direct male connections.

Also looking for any direct male descendants of Diego's male siblings, which as far as I know are:

Juan ROMO (Abt. 1632)
Pedro ROMO (b.1632 Ags, Mx)
Geronimo ROMO
Francisco ROMO (Abt. 1644)

Please feel free to correct any of my dates or information.

I am a direct descendant of Diego ROMO DE VIVAR (1589-1650) and would like to connect my research. If you have had your yDNA tested it would be great. If not, I'm willing to pay for your yDNA to be tested.

Thanks primos!

General Digest, Vol 109, Issue 6

I wish they could tape the Basque lectures and let us download or purchase
them (since we cannot attend the class).

Is that possible?

Many thanks!
Patricia Lawrence

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> I wish he would have an audio-post (what do you call it?) like you do, so
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> Emilie
>
> > From: makas@nc.rr.com
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> > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 06:37:36 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Basque connection
> >
> >
> >
> > These classes by Angel are not available online.
> >
> >
> > > 2. Re: The Basque connection to New Mexican Families (Joseph
> > > > Puentes)
> > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:17:26 -0500
> > > > > From: "Joseph Puentes"
> > > > > To: ,
> > >
> > > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FW: The Basque connection to New
> > > Mexican
> > > > > Families (Haplogroup R1b1)
> > > > > Message-ID: <0ca901d0377b$e68d0110$b3a70330$@rr.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 9:07 PM
> > > > > To: undisclosed-recipients:
> > > > > Subject: The Basque connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup
> > > > > R1b1)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on the Basque
> > > > > connection
> > > > to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1). If you would like to learn
> > > > more about the mark this ancient civilization made on the Iberian
> > > > Peninsula then this presentation is for you. There will be a
> > > > presentation on the subject on February 20, at 3:30 PM, through the
> > > > University of New Mexico Continuing Education program.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformat
> > > > ion
> > > > <
> > > >
> > > http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformat
> > > > ion&int_class_id=67463>
> > > > &int_class_id=67463
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > ?ngel de Cervantes
> > > > > Project Administrator
> > > > > New Mexico DNA Project
> > > > > Iberian Peninsula DNA Project
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General Digest, Vol 108, Issue 10

Hello...I'm interested in the Basque class for R1+....can it be watched via
the internet?
Thank you...

Patricia

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> Can this presentation be watched via the Internet ? I'm not clear on how
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> Margie Esteinou
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> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FW: The Basque connection to New Mexican
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 9:07 PM
> > To: undisclosed-recipients:
> > Subject: The Basque connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on the Basque connection
> to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1). If you would like to learn more
> about the mark this ancient civilization made on the Iberian Peninsula then
> this presentation is for you. There will be a presentation on the subject
> on February 20, at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Continuing
> Education program.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati…
> <
> http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati…;
> &int_class_id=67463
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > ?ngel de Cervantes
> > Project Administrator
> > New Mexico DNA Project
> > Iberian Peninsula DNA Project
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > P.S. For more information contact Angel
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> Message: 2
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> No it can't but contact Angel (see his email below) for more information
>
> > > From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
>
>
>
>
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General Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3

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> Hello...I'm interested in the Basque class for R1+....can it be watched via
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> Thank you...
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> Patricia
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>> Can this presentation be watched via the Internet ? I'm not clear on how
>> it works.
>>
>> Margie Esteinou
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> To: undisclosed-recipients:
>>> Subject: The Basque connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1)
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>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on the Basque connection
>> to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1). If you would like to learn more
>> about the mark this ancient civilization made on the Iberian Peninsula then
>> this presentation is for you. There will be a presentation on the subject
>> on February 20, at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Continuing
>> Education program.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:
>> http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati…
>> <
>> http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati…;
>> &int_class_id=67463
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> ?ngel de Cervantes
>>> Project Administrator
>>> New Mexico DNA Project
>>> Iberian Peninsula DNA Project
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S. For more information contact Angel
>>>
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Graciana Corona

Dear members,

Concerning the marriage of Joseph Lopez de Andrade to Ana Gomes de Aguirre:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18522-1198-15?cc=1874591&wc=…

the record says Joseph was the widower of Graciana Gonzalez. When I looked through my database, I realized this was Graciana González-Corona (aka Graciana Corona), the daughter of Hernán/Fernán González-Corona and Juana de Betancur. There is the Betancur last name again! Graciana was baptized 10 Sep 1662 in Autlán, and she was later married to Joseph Lopez de Andrade on 6 Jun 1677 also in Autlán.

Baptism
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18561-21829-37?cc=1874591&wc…

Marriage
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18522-1227-29?cc=1874591&wc=…
There are two reasons I wanted to post this. 1) It gives Graciana an estimated death date of 1699, 2) the Betancor last name is tied up here again (given my recent post on the Isabel Ruiz topic), and 3) Joseph married Ana Gomez de Aguirre, who may have been related to Isabel Gomez and María Gomez de Aguirre (see my post from today on Isabel Ruiz

Cheers!

Sergio

Haciento De Hermanos Cofrades 1802 Huejuquilla Juan Benancio Madera my GGG Grandfather on list

I found a document where "Hacientos De Hermanos Cofrades" 1802 of Huejuquilla. My Great Great Great Grandfather Juan Benancio Madera is on the list and paid 2 pesos. He was 40 years old at that time:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/bi9yl1.jpg

The source in LDS Website: Pg 473 of Bautismos of Huejuquilla (1817 - 1823) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18432-14154-80?cc=1874591&wc…

Is that a "membership fee"? Or is it a tax that the landowners paid?

Because I was reading this book online called, "Mexico's Merchant Elite 1590 - 1660 Silver, State and Society and I found this comment that says "Asiento a collection from farmers" http://oi57.tinypic.com/5prm8i.jpg You can read the book online at:

http://books.google.com.mx/books?id=ZEtgrluCM9YC&pg=PA299&lpg=PA299&dq=…

FW: Somos Primos February 2015

-----Original Message-----
From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 10:54 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos February 2015

http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2015/spfeb15/spfeb15.htm

Dear Primos, Friends, and Readers:

Recently, as I was finishing up the February article I got a telephone from Colorado artist, Eddie Martinez. His Cuauhtémoc,the Last Warrior King is on the front page of the February issue of Somos Primos. The link will take you to Part 2, "Walking the streets of Spain while sketching and listening for voices from the past."

Eddie shared his plans for him and his wife to travel to San Antonio, New Orleans, Pensacola, and St. Augustine to sketch, photograph, and record evidence of the earliest of Spanish presence in the United States in those locations. The goal,walking the streets of the United States, seeking early historical evidence of the Spanish presence, listening for those voices.
After we got off the phone, I started thinking of Eddie's selfless dedication and the dedication of many Hispanics, who individually are making huge contribution in presenting the truth about our ancestors.
All together our efforts are changing popular/preferred history with facts. The changes are through sharing and honoring the histories of our ancestors and the many heroes who have fought for our right to be included in the history of the United States. Our history is the history of the United States.
You will read in this issue many, many heritage project happening, projects headed by individuals and groups, with an endless expressions of sharing who we are . . . observing special historic dates with parades and community events, cemetery restorations, families and military statues, history and genealogy conferences, writing and oral history projects, restoration and site preservation, cultural events, lectures, class room visits, reenactors, historical plaques, books, articles, exhibits, murals, presentations, newspaper columnists . .
most importantly, they are activities of our history . . . told by us.
I hope as you read these stories and articles, you will be inspired with a project that you can engage in . . . your family and your history matter.
God bless you and your family, Mimi
www.SomosPrimos.com

TABLE OF CONTENTS

UNITED STATES
Clips from 1970 July 4th TV special, hosted by John Wayne Why Is Hollywood Only Making One Film About Latinos in 2015? by Adam Hofbauer Gina Rodriguez Wins The Golden Globe for Best Actress in a Comedy by Yvonne Villarreal SACNAS and "Spare Parts" movie by JV Martinez About Dr. Jose "JV" Vergara Martinez - Physicist A Renaissance of Hispanic Culture by Dr. Lino García The Star by Daisy Wanda Garcia Introduction to Construction Work Is Getting More Deadly, But Only For Latinos by David Noriega If you tell a lie often enough eventually it will be accepted as fact by Dan Arellano Harry Truman was a different kind of President.
Suggested money saving cuts from the National Budget

HERITAGE PROJECTS
Walking the streets of Spain while sketching and listening for voices from the past,
Part 2, Sevilla by Eddie Martinez, edited and translated in Spanish by Viola Rodriguez Sadler Oral history project: The Mexican side of Colton, California Equestrian statue of Bernardo de Galvez in Menard Park, Galveston Texas Statue of Col. José de Escandón y Helguera Descendant of rancho family seeks to mark historic graves by Martha Groves Chicano History Week (Feb 2-8) Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
31 Rolls of Undeveloped Film Shot by an Unknown WW2 Soldier Latinos, the Voting Right Act and Political Engagement José Joaquín de Arrillaga (1750-1814) Gravesite Renovation

HISTORIC TIDBITS
January 9th, 1836 -- Frontier icon Crockett loses election, heads for Alamo January 26th, 1839 -- Republic passes homestead law, sets aside land for education The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, February 2, 1848 by Dan Arellano English Policy in the New World: Plantation Settlements by Mimi Lozano

HISPANIC LEADERS
Peter Chacon: California Assemblyman and Educator, June 10, 1925 – December 14, 2014 Reies López Tijerina: Indo-Hispano Activist, September 21, 1926 - January 19, 2015 Michele Serros: Author, Poet, Comedic social commentator, February 10,
1966 - January 4, 2015

SURNAMES
The Royal Family of the Canary Islands by John Inclan

DNA
Many Whites Today Would Have Been Classified as Black in the 1940s by Annalee Newitz European Ancestors hailed from three different groups Asian Native American Dogs

FAMILY HISTORY
Rootstech Conference, February 12–14, 2015, Salt Lake City, Utah Find the right family history app for the job with the new FamilySearch App Gallery Top 50 Resources: Genealogy by Barry Newsletter

EDUCATION
The Condition of Latinos in Education: 2015 Factbook The Preuss School, UCSD, #1 Transformative High School in the Nation Walt Disney Company, Scholarships to Top Hispanic Students Nationwide Achievement First Global Latino Education Advocacy Days Summit, March 26, 2015 Future History Makers Award Application and Criteria Ryan Ruelas, One of the 100 2014 Influencer in Orange County, CA Education – The Recipe for Success by José Antonio López Free Texas Almanac Teacher’s Guide has

CULTURE
Conversation With Carlos Santana by Julia Bencomo Lobaco Coloratura soprano: Angel Ng The Real Face of Santa Claus by Ryan Scheel Three Kings of Orient Music from the Canary Islands To be or not to be, a Spanish speaker? by Margarito J. Garcia III, Ph.D.
Felipe Urrutia, singer, songwriter, and collector of Nicaragua’s traditional music dies BAJA California: California, February 28th, three internationally acclaimed performing groups Cuauhtli Academy of Cultural Arts and Literature, Austin
Murals Under the Stars by Gregorio Luke . . . 2014 Yearly Report

BOOKS AND PRINT MEDIA
International Latino Book Awards
National Association of Hispanic Publishers Gálvez/Spain - Our Forgotten Ally in the American Revolutional War: A Concise Summary of Spain's Assistance, by Judge Edward F. Butler, Sr.
Seeking Latino Newspapers for Digitizing Project LARED-L is a National Latino/Chicano Network Hidden Enemy by Jessey Munoz Patriots from the Barrio by Dave Gutierrez Champion of the Barrio: The Legacy of Coach Buryl Baty by: R. Gaines Baty The World of the Mexican Worker in Texas; The World War I Diary of José de la Luz S The Adventures of Nolda and His Magical Scooter by Armando Rendon Rethinking the Chicano Movement by Marc Simon Rodriguez Backroads Pragmatists: Mexico's Melting Pot and Civil Rights in the United States By Ruben Flores Civil Rights: Is There More to the Story? by Shana Burg Democratizing Texas Politics: Race, Identity, and Mexican American
Empowerment,1945–2002 By Benjamin Márquez ‘Our America,’ by Felipe Fernández-Armesto

LATINO PATRIOTS
Korean War Veterans Memorial located on the Washington, DC mall.
Video: Vietnam, Service, Sacrifice, and Courage Ceremony to honor revived monument by Erika I. Ritchie A Beachside Retreat for Veterans
Video: The Longoria Affair
Her military mission in 1944 helped fellow Hispanic women by St. John Barned-Smith

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
Book: Mexican Americans in the Making of America by Neil Foley Colbert's Raid: The Last Battle of the American Revolution between Spain and England
by Rueben M. Perez

ORANGE COUNTY, CA
David Belardes, historian, Juaneño activist, died December 29th February 14: SHHAR, Don Garcia, The Genealogical Services Offered by Family Search Author Alex Moreno Areyan SHHAR 2015 Calendar of upcoming Speakers National Hispanic Business Women's Association Northgate Market's Niche by Heather Skyler Preserving History by Stefan Weichert Chicano Heroes de Aztlan Exhibit, March 7th Reception ARCOS, Arts in Communities and Schools Santa Ana Deliberately Burned Down Its Chinatown in 1906 --And Let a Man Die to Do It
by Gustavo Arellano

LOS ANGELES COUNTY
The House of Aragón, Historic Novel of Los Angeles by Michael Perez National Institute for Baseball Studies, Whittier College

CALIFORNIA
Feb 26-28, 2015: Conference of California Historical Societies Sainthood announcement of Father Junipero Serra spurs hope to see Pope The History of Neighborhood House in Logan Heights: Mary Barrios, Early Years by Mary E. Garcia Pete Chacon paved way for Latinos in California San Carlos Borromeo de Carmelo Mission in Carmel, California
2015 National Hispanic Business Women Association California Educational Scholarship Program
1901 shipwreck near Golden Gate found by Carl Nolte Replica of Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo's 500 year old flagship being built

NORTHWESTERN, US
1969 Map of Private Internet Connections Changing Latino Demographic in Utah Highlighted in New Book by University of Utah Professor Boulder County Latino History Project - City of Boulder resolution Oregon Was Founded As a Racist Utopia by Matt Novak

SOUTHWESTERN, US
Face of a movement: Reies López Tijerina fought for Chicano rights by Ramón Rentería "El Tigre" Reies López Tijerina, Por Felipe de Ortego y Gasca Tejano Land Grant Society Arizona to require civics test for high school Edward Rosenstock Alcantar Connecting with Arechabala Carrillo Family Members Laura K. Munoz, Romo v. Laird: Mexican American Segregation & Politics of Belonging in Arizona Why Do Farmworkers Still Lack Workers' Comp? by Marianne L. Bowers The St. James Hotel Monument by Louis F. Serna

TEXAS
Jose Antonio Navarro Cenotaph Unveiling
Signature Houston Mural Set for Restoration by Jayme Fraser Spanish Cannon Comes Home to the Alamo Settling Texas, Castroville Coal Mining in Las Minas, Santo Tomas Coal Field by Erasmo "Doc" Riojas Comments on the 1954 Laredo Flood by Gilberto Quezada Frank Nieto Lujan by Prima Elisa

MIDDLE AMERICA
Notre Dame Archives: Louisiana and the Floridas Source Some great facts about New Orleans, Louisiana Hector P. Garcia Centennial Birthday Commemoration, 2014, Omaha, Nebraska Kansas City, Kansas public library January 17, 2015 honors Dr. Hector P.
Garcia
Forum for Hispanics/Latinos in Ohio and their friends in the nation Building in Newton, Kansas which deserves attention Baton Rouge, Louisiana Historical Markers, Photos by Bill Carmena Our Views: Big honor for Galvez Helen Torrence Bey, “Mother Bey”

EAST COAST
Santiago Calatrava rebuilds St Nicholas Church on Ground Zero, "Out of the Ashes"

AFRICAN-AMERICAN
1915 First Incorporated Black City in Texas
1792 Spanish census records 247 male and 167 female mulattoes Ben Ammi Ben-Israel, 75: led black group to Israel Museum on slave trade planned for Episcopal Cathedral in Providence, Rhode Island The Selma Voting Rights Struggle: 15 Key Points By Emilye Crosby Forty Acres and a Mule By Rick Beard

INDIGENOUS
Let Us Not Accept Historical Myths by Mimi Lozano
120 Years of Lakota History on This Calendar A Genealogist Who Spent His Life Building a Cherokee Archive Retires American Indian tribes can grow and sell marijuana on their lands María Martínez: Story of an Indigenous Woman by Evelyn Puga Aguirre-Sulem ¿Y tú cómo te llamas?. Las voces de los pueblos indígenas por Benicio Samuel Sanchez

SEPHARDIC
The De Riberas, Chapter Three The New World by Michael S. Perez Genie’s Gifts: Part Two: “How I Found My 15 Grandmothers/Como Encontre a Mis 15 Abuelas” Reviewed by Chana Mendez After 522 Years, Spain Seeks To Make Amends For Expulsion Of Jews
Lauren Frayer and Emily Harris
Lobos y Perros Rabiosos: Legacy of the Inquisition in the Colonization of New Spain & New Mexico C. Michael Torres AMCHA is the Hebrew word meaning “Your People", Text extracts from Blog by Gary Fouse Erasing Israel by Yvette Alt Miller

ARCHAEOLOGY
Research finds Neanderthals probably weren't brutish, inferior cave men

MEXICO
Fotos Socidad de Genealogia de Nuevo León
Facebook: Sociedad Genealogica y de Historia Familiar de Mexico La Sociedad Nuevoleonesa de Historia Aztec App Brings Historic Mexico Codex Into the Digital Age Exploring Colonial Mexico: Stone Retablos: San José Chiapa El Índice Genealógico de Bautismos y Matrimonios sobre tu apellido Families of Saltillo, Coahuila, Volume Thirteen, 2014 Year End Report by Crispin Rendon Información matrimonial del Sr. Don Julio Gracida Somohano y Doña Rosario Porchini Gómez El natalicio de Don Francisco González BocanegraCARIBBEAN REGION La Revista del Instituto de Cultura Puertoriqueña

CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
History and Mission of The Organization of American States Correspondence with OAS La cultura del Bosque. Alejandro Perez Becerra Boletín de Genealogias Colombíanas, Editor: Luis Álvaro Gallo Martínez

PHILIPPINES
The first Philippine and Asian President of a US Bar Association
by Eddie AAA Calderón, Ph.D.
The Marines in the Philippines During Early 1900s’ to Late 30s’
by Poppo OlagSPAIN

SPAIN
Gran Canaria sand sculptures
Los Islenos of St Bernard Video
Teresa Valcarce by Ángel Custodio Rebollo La Batalla de la Isla de Saltés por Angel Custodio Rebollo Catedral de Sevilla con La Salve Rociera De Pedro Rivera al Marques de Rubi España perdió más de 30 barcos mientras ayudaba a la independencia de EE.UU.
Dr. Lino Garcia, Jr., a Grand Ambassador of Texas by Dr. Julio Cuesta Domínguez Levi Villarreal 27 de diciembre de 2014

INTERNATIONAL
Je Suis Charlie! Cartoon by Sergio Hernandez
Video: A look Inside Charlie Hebdo, Their Creative Process & the Making of a Fateful Cartoon Here is a perspective on Islamization by Dr Peter Hammond.
Mapping the Global Muslim Population
Center for Security Policy
Incredible WWI Tribute In London Looks Like A River Of Blood… Tens Of Thousands Of Germans Gather Together To Protest Against Islam European Life Died In Auschwitz by Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez WW II - British Military Cemetery in Libya Desecrated

Juan Francisco Reyes 1747

​Francisco Reyes who accompanied the Portola party to discover Monterey, Alta California was born in 1747 in a small village called Zapotlan el Grande in the State of Jalisco, Mexico. (Today it is a city named Cuidad Guzman) His father was Juan Jose Dias and his mother was Gertrudis Reyes. It is unclear to us why he used the Reyes name when he journeyed to Alta California.

We have Reyes marriage investigation, signed by Padre Serra. After serving as a soldier protecting Serra in Carmel, Reyes was assigned to the SB Presidio to fulfill his period of enlistment. He retired to Pueblo de Los Angeles where he served twice as Alcade. Reyes was the recipient of a Spanish Land Grant called Encino. It encompassed today's Encino, but also contained the entire San Fernando Valley. As with all European land grants, when the Crown wanted his Rancho back to be given for a Mission at San Fernando, the land was.....reluctantly.....returned. Reyes was given a substitute land grant rancho called Lompoc.

As part of La Senora's Rancho Descendants outreach, we have traced his descendants through five generations. We are now seeking information on his ancestors and on his activities in Mexico---most likely in the shipyards -- during the period in which the Alta California exploration ships were being readied for the journey. La Senora is devoted to research and education on the Cultural Heritage of these individuals so it's not just genealogical information we seek.

After Independence, Reyes grandson Ysidro Reyes (a young vintner in the Pueblo) and a friend Francisco Marquez (operator of the large blacksmith shop in the Pueblo) moved to Rancho Boca de Santa Monica in 1839 when they received that Mexican Land Grant. We will post DNA info from Francisco Reyes great, great, great grandson (the Historian for La Senora Research Institute and Rancho Boca de Santa Monica) and will be delighted if someone can help us to understand what these tests mean. Ernest Marquez is the great grandson of both Ysidro Reyes and Francisco Marquez as the two land grant families intermarried.

FW: The Basque connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1)

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 9:07 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Basque connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1)

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on the Basque connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup R1b1). If you would like to learn more about the mark this ancient civilization made on the Iberian Peninsula then this presentation is for you. There will be a presentation on the subject on February 20, at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Continuing Education program.

Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:

http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati… &int_class_id=67463

Best Regards,

Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

P.S. For more information contact Angel