Martin del Campo

Hi Alice,
I was looking for your genealogy in the files section, but couldn't 
find it.  You said you have Martin del Campo ancestry and I wanted to 
see if we have a link.  I have several Martin del Campo lines in my 
family tree. 
Maria
 
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, alice wissing  
wrote:
> Marge,
>  
> You think you've got problems, I traced my Martin del Campo family 
to the Romo de Vivars, which leads to the Ruiz de Esparza family, and 
supposedly they descend from Moctezuma.  For whatever reasons, people 
laugh hysterically when they hear Moctezuma's name.  And former 
President Lopez-Portillo was a Martin del Campo, as well, and that 
elicits more laughter.  Sadly, my grandparents came to Carpinteria, 
CA to pick lemons and green beans, making all these discoveries seem 
unreal to people.  
>  
> Alicia       
> 
> marge vallazza  wrote:
> Dear Joseph,
> Attached is my family history from my grandmother, Altagracia 
Gonzalez.  Please

HTG/Reminder

Marge,
 
You think you've got problems, I traced my Martin del Campo family to the Romo de Vivars, which leads to the Ruiz de Esparza family, and supposedly they descend from Moctezuma.  For whatever reasons, people laugh hysterically when they hear Moctezuma's name.  And former President Lopez-Portillo was a Martin del Campo, as well, and that elicits more laughter.  Sadly, my grandparents came to Carpinteria, CA to pick lemons and green beans, making all these discoveries seem unreal to people. 
 
Alicia      

marge vallazza wrote:
Dear Joseph,
Attached is my family history from my grandmother, Altagracia Gonzalez.  Please look it over and ensure that it starts with her.  I'm sorry it's a zip file and I think a Gedcom.  I converted it from PAF.5
 
Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is what has delayed my submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married into the Morillo line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This Villavicencio (Juliana del

Photo of my grandmother and her father

Hi, I've just uploaded this photo of my dad's mother and her father.  
I don't know when this was taken but assume that it is around the 
time they moved from Jerez to Parral to Juarez--about 1913-17.  
Marge:)




Photo of my grandmother and her father

Hi, I've just uploaded this photo of my dad's mother and her father.  
I don't know when this was taken but assume that it is around the 
time they moved from Jerez to Parral to Juarez--about 1913-17.  
Marge:)




HTG/Reminder

Dear Joseph,
Attached is my family history from my grandmother,
Altagracia Gonzalez.  Please look it over and ensure that it starts with
her.  I'm sorry it's a zip file and I think a Gedcom.  I converted it
from PAF.5
 
Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is
what has delayed my submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married into
the Morillo line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This
Villavicencio (Juliana del Carmen) was a descendant of many of the
conquistadores of Mexico and of the noblest families of Spain, who also
descended from the French king, Charlemagne.  Cool, huh?  But as my
Tia Carmen heatedly said, " Yeah, if my mother's family was so noble and
rich, how come they didn't give her a helping hand when she needed it?" 
Well, that was hundreds of years ago, Tia.  Talk about a Tess of the
D'Urbervilles situation!!!!
 
Let me know if this is acceptable to you...Birthday
Boy.  Have a good one.  Sincerely, Marge Vallazza:)
----- Original

HTG/Reminder



Irma sent me a Happy Thanksgiving note and greeting, well I'm a Turkey
boy as on some years my birthday falls right on Thanksgiving but not
this year. Well enough of that, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, happy
birthday to me, and bear with me as I start to sharpen my Axe for the
holidays.

 

. . . .Sorry to be so blunt but this group is not a free ride for
anyone. [mind you its almost free as in some communication will
definitely buy you a by]. . .enough of the riddles. . . .

                 . . .if you haven't submitted your genealogy [as
in never ever]
you need to communicate with me as to when you
are going to send it. When you send it to me I'll make up a file in the
non public files with your name, email address, and geographical
locations that includes your submission. If you are not ready
fine, just communicate with me
. How about we establish an
ultimate deadline of April 15th [Maybe those that need to give to the
Feds will not feel bad about giving a little more in the

Genealogy

I agree with it 100%. I think I am at the last
stage!!!!!!

Translation:

Genelagía

Comienza como un interés,
Se convierte en un pasatiempo,
Continúa como una advocación,
Se vuelve una obsesión,
Y en su última instancia
es una enfermedad incurable.

Autor desconocido.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> Genealogy
> 
> Begins as an interest,
> Becomes a hobby,
> Continues as an avocation,
> Takes over as an obsession,
> and in its last stage
> is an incurable disease.
> 
> unknown author
> 
> [would anyone care to give a translated version?]
> 
> 



		
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Genealogy

Genealogia

 

Comienza solo como interes casual,

Enseguida se convierte en un hobby,

Continua' como una vocacion,

Luego se convierte en un obsesion

En su ultima etapa, se convierte en una obsesion.

 

Joseph, Hope this does it.............Alicia

Joseph Puentes wrote:


Genealogy

Begins as an interest,
Becomes a hobby,
Continues as an avocation,
Takes over as an obsession,
and in its last stage
is an incurable disease.
unknown author

[would anyone care to give a translated version?]


Genealogy


Genealogy

Begins as an interest,
Becomes a hobby,
Continues as an avocation,
Takes over as an obsession,
and in its last stage
is an incurable disease.
unknown author

[would anyone care to give a translated version?]

Campos/Soto Family

Hi!   I am doing research on the Soto line out of
Tamaulipas in the mid 1800s........does any of this sound familiar?  That
is as far as I have gotten on this line but I need to get busy and dig some
more.  Did any of your Soto ancestors come from Tamaulipas? 
 
Thanks!
 
Josie Trevino Trevino
San Antonio, TX



From: lareina2@...
[mailto:lareina2@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:44
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re:
Campos/Soto Family

Thanks, Angie.  Carol, you are related to me,
since, as Angie noticed, you descend from Juan Manuel Campos, the son of Juan de
Campos and Antonia de Soto Almeyda.  Antonia was the daughter of Francisco
de Soto Almeyda and Juana Magdalena de Salazar, and Antonia was the sister of my
ancestor, Diego de Soto Almeyda.  How exciting!  Welcome to ranchos,
cousin!  Write to me if you want more details.

Rosalinda

-----Original Message-----

From: aajay1073
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 3:25 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:

Names

face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>

also...................the baptisms are under

"baptismos secretos"

Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes



Hello All,



I just want to remind everyone that it is okay to stray "a little" off
the target area [Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes] of this group in
our discussion, but if you see that a particular message you really
want to discuss requires staying "off target"
how about lets take it to private email. Just make note of the
individuals involved copy and paste their email addresses into a new
email and copy and paste whatever particulars you want to discuss.



thanks,



joseph


Rey/Reyes Name

Hi, Al. Can you provide me with more information on
your Chihuahua family. Specifically for the Saenz and
Flores. I'm researching my wife's family, and on her
mother side they are Flores and Saenz. Only they are
from Valle del Rosario. Any information will be
greatly appreciated.

Guillermo Valdez.


--- Al Duarte  wrote:

> Actually, I believe she was from Delicias,
> Chihuahua.  I have to check my
> marriage records to confirm it. But my uncle Nicanor
> Prieto was from
> Camargo, Chihuahua.  I also have Sanez, Pena,
> Fierro, Villa, Fernandez,
> Alvarez, Ortega, Leyva, and many others. from
> Camargo and San Francisco de
> Conchos.  Please see my family tree on this website.
> 
> Viva Chihuahua! And also Zacatecas!
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Alberto Duarte Prieto
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Yolanda Bobby Perez
> [mailto:windrocklili@...]
>   Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:47 PM
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: RE: [ranchos] Rey/Reyes Name
> 
> 
>   Al

Rey/Reyes Name

Al,
 
Are your Leyvas from Chihuahua?  I have a grandparent from my mother's side of the family who was the brother of the Leyvas who settled in Parral in the 1600's.  One of these Leybas was among the founders of New Mexico and there is a tile supposedly with his name on it at the Palace of the Governors in New Mexico. 
 
Alicia Martin del Campo de Wissing (did I do that right folks?)

Al Duarte wrote:
Actually, I believe she was from Delicias, Chihuahua.  I have to check my marriage records to confirm it. But my uncle Nicanor Prieto was from Camargo, Chihuahua.  I also have Sanez, Pena, Fierro, Villa, Fernandez, Alvarez, Ortega, Leyva, and many others. from Camargo and San Francisco de Conchos.  Please see my family tree on this website. 
 
Viva Chihuahua! And also Zacatecas!
 
Regards.
 
Alberto Duarte Prieto
-----Original Message-----
From: Yolanda Bobby Perez [mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:47 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE:

Rey/Reyes Name

Actually, I believe she was from Delicias, Chihuahua.  I have to
check my marriage records to confirm it. But my uncle Nicanor Prieto was from
Camargo, Chihuahua.  I also have Sanez, Pena, Fierro, Villa, Fernandez,
Alvarez, Ortega, Leyva, and many others. from Camargo and San Francisco de
Conchos.  Please see my family tree on this website. 
 
Viva
Chihuahua! And also Zacatecas!
 
Regards.
 
Alberto Duarte Prieto
-----Original Message-----
From: Yolanda Bobby Perez
[mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004
2:47 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos]
Rey/Reyes Name

Al,
I don't find maria in my files but, I do have about
40 Banuelas from Camargo in my tree. Three of my grandparents were born in
Camargo and perhaps Maria Flores Banuelas is connected thru the Banuelas line.
Some of my surnames in Camargo are  SAENZ, MEDINA, 
SAAVEDRA,  AGUILAR, FIERRO, RUIZREY, GUTIERRES, VASQUES, 
PORRAS,  RUBIO,  FLORES AND BANUELAS.   Do

Rey/Reyes Name

Al,
I don't find maria in my files but, I do have about 40 Banuelas from Camargo in my tree. Three of my grandparents were born in Camargo and perhaps Maria Flores Banuelas is connected thru the Banuelas line. Some of my surnames in Camargo are  SAENZ, MEDINA,  SAAVEDRA,  AGUILAR, FIERRO, RUIZREY, GUTIERRES, VASQUES,  PORRAS,  RUBIO,  FLORES AND BANUELAS.   Do you have more info  on the Banuelas line?  I know I need to submit my family lines to the ranchos group. What other lines are you researching in Camargo or Santa Rosalia, perhaps I can look in my book " CAMARGO, Dos Decadas de Subida".  Just let me know and I will look. 

Al Duarte wrote:
Yolanda:
Was Maria Flores Banulos related to you? She was married to my great-uncle Nicanor Prieto, in Camargo, Chihuahua, circa 1900.
 
Alberto Duarte Prieto.
-----Original Message-----
From: yolanda medina-perez [mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:30 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Rey/Reyes

Surnames


I also have relatives with the name Reyes
(last name) from Jerez, Zacatecas, back in the 1800s. 
 
Alberto. 
-----Original Message-----
From: marge vallazza
[mailto:TeaCozyGran@...]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:47
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Surnames

I have an ancestress from Zacatecas in the late 1600s or early 1700s
whose name was Clara de los Reyes and she was espanola.  Marge
Vallazza:)
----- Original Message -----
From:
Al
Duarte
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:14
AM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Surnames

Interesting information.
 
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pacorro73@...
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:12
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[ranchos] Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and
thereafter during Colonial times

Surnames


I have an ancestress from Zacatecas in the late 1600s or early 1700s whose
name was Clara de los Reyes and she was espanola.  Marge Vallazza:)
----- Original Message -----
From:
Al
Duarte
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:14
AM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Surnames

Interesting information.
 
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pacorro73@...
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:12
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[ranchos] Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and thereafter
during Colonial times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the Native
Indians from possessing surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied
family, the Indios somehow had earned themselves a surname, or eventually
the adopted a surname out of names that were not necessarily surnames.

 

Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January

Rey/Reyes Name

size=2>Yolanda:

Was
Maria Flores Banulos related to you? She was married to my great-uncle Nicanor
Prieto, in Camargo, Chihuahua, circa 1900.

size=2> 

size=2>Alberto Duarte Prieto.


size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: yolanda medina-perez
[mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004
9:30 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Rey/Reyes Name


I have on more than one occasion
heard that people with the Rey or
Reyes last name belong to one and the
same family. How can this be
possible??  Has anyone heard similar
comments or can anyone
elaborate. Is it a root name of another name, where
does it
orginate, does it come from another country??? In my family I have

RuizRey, Flores-Rey, Rey, these families are from the Camargo

Chihuahua area. Yet, my daughter married a Tomas Rey in El Paso,
Tx.

Are they related or what?




Surnames


Interesting information.
 
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pacorro73@...m
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:12
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and thereafter
during Colonial times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the Native Indians
from possessing surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied family,
the Indios somehow had earned themselves a surname, or eventually the adopted
a surname out of names that were not necessarily surnames.

 

Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January 6, the Catholic
Church celebrates the Feast Day of the Epiphany, or Feast of the Magi, when
the three wise king visited the Baby Jesus in
Bethlehem.  In
Mexico and
Spain the day
is called Epifanía or “Día de los Reyes Magos.”  The “Reyes” were called Melchor,
Gaspar, and Baltazar.  So as a
result of this holy day, many

Surnames

Thanks for the very nice and informative e-mail on the
surnames.
--- Pacorro73@... wrote:

>   
> Ranchos,
>  
> Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and
> thereafter during Colonial 
> times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the
> Native Indians from possessing 
> surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied
> family, the Indios somehow had 
> earned themselves a surname, or eventually the
> adopted a surname out of names 
> that were not necessarily surnames.
>  
> Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January
> 6, the Catholic Church 
> celebrates the Feast Day of the Epiphany, or Feast
> of the Magi, when the three 
> wise king visited the Baby Jesus in Bethlehem.  In
> Mexico and Spain the day is 
> called Epifanía or â??Día de los Reyes Magos.â?? 
> The â??Reyesâ?? were called 
> Melchor, Gaspar, and Baltazar.  So as a result of
> this holy day, many children born 
> on or near the holy-day were named one or a
> combination of the following:  
> José

Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and thereafter during Colonial times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the Native Indians from possessing surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied family, the Indios somehow had earned themselves a surname, or eventually the adopted a surname out of names that were not necessarily surnames.

 

Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January 6, the Catholic Church celebrates the Feast Day of the Epiphany, or Feast of the Magi, when the three wise king visited the Baby Jesus in Bethlehem.  In Mexico and Spain the day is called Epifanía or “Día de los Reyes Magos.”  The “Reyes” were called Melchor, Gaspar, and Baltazar.  So as a result of this holy day, many children born on or near the holy-day were named one or a combination of the following:  José Epifánio, María Epifánia, José de los Reyes, María de los Reyes, Melchor, Melchora, Gaspar, or Baltazar.

 

This is essentially what happened to children born on other

Rey, Reyes, etc

   

I went to this page:



http://genealogy.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/geneal/index%5Fgc.html



and plugged Rey in and found that according to this Heraldry Dictionary
the names were different. Of coure that doesn't mean that one name
didn't evolve into the other or a lot of other possibilities:


Index to the Enciclopedia Heráldica Hispano-Americana of
Alberto and Arturo García Carraffa

The 88 volumes of this work, [Library of Congress Call Number:
CR2142.G3] supplemented by a continuing work, offer an immense tribute
to the work of indefatigable genealogists. The work treats Spanish
heraldry in the first two volumes, and with volume three begins the Diccionario
Heráldico y Genealógico de Apellidos Españoles y Americanos
, or
a listing of over 15,000 names with their respective genealogical
histories (with color illustrations of representative crests) of
Spanish and Spanish-American families. Please note that on the spine
one finds two

Rey/Reyes Name

I have on more than one occasion heard that people with the Rey or 
Reyes last name belong to one and the same family. How can this be 
possible??  Has anyone heard similar comments or can anyone 
elaborate. Is it a root name of another name, where does it 
orginate, does it come from another country??? In my family I have 
RuizRey, Flores-Rey, Rey, these families are from the Camargo 
Chihuahua area. Yet, my daughter married a Tomas Rey in El Paso, Tx.

Are they related or what?